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  • @d.marques4700
    @d.marques4700 7 місяців тому +45

    Enoch Powell is a Hero to an increasing number of British Patriots! He had the courage to say what had to be said!...
    This man deserves our full RESPECT!

    • @toastedterps
      @toastedterps 2 місяці тому +1

      Amen.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 2 місяці тому +1

      He also spearheaded the closure of mental health wards which are now sorely needed.

    • @ryanmyles5555
      @ryanmyles5555 Місяць тому +2

      I'm 24 and live in Leicester, a lot of what Enoch Powell says is true or has come true, the man spoke not just his own mind on anti immigration but also the publics and they're daily struggles living in a multicultural England.

    • @gimmethepinkelephant3685
      @gimmethepinkelephant3685 Місяць тому

      ​​@@SagaciousFrank ... Even the best of us make mistakes...lol!

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank Місяць тому

      @@gimmethepinkelephant3685 , absolutely, but that was a big one.

  • @ChubbyChecker182
    @ChubbyChecker182 7 місяців тому +9

    Dick Cavett had some amazing shows. Brilliant talk show host.

  • @cuttysark57
    @cuttysark57 7 місяців тому +12

    Dick Cavett was/is a brilliant interviewer. He's genuinely interested in people. After providing the most economical stimulus, he then just fades into the background to let them speak. So few who reach the top of his profession can do this: it's all about them. This particular interview is one of the most serious and penetrating with Powell I have seen. He was a deep thinker with prodigious grasp of his subject and knowledge of the wider world and its history, and an impressive and accomplished man. Yet most interviewers spend half an hour trying to get Powell to admit he was a "white supremacist". This interview is a rare exception.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 2 місяці тому

      Yeah I like his calm interviewing style.

  • @shunkadee1299
    @shunkadee1299 9 місяців тому +31

    Whatever side of this argument you come down on, this puts into stark contrast just how much both television and society has dumbed down over the years. 🤷‍♂️

  • @doctorsocrates4413
    @doctorsocrates4413 7 місяців тому +23

    "by the turn of the century"..by god he nailed it there and this was 1972.....Best PM we never had by far...rest well enoch.

    • @gimmethepinkelephant3685
      @gimmethepinkelephant3685 Місяць тому +1

      If he can see anything that's happening now, and not only in Britain but within Europe and within western society as a whole then I doubt he's resting all that well, sadly... We could use more men like him these days. Too little and too far between. And I don't see this problem ending any time soon because I don't think the majority out there truly knows who the enemy is.

  • @johnmorgan8868
    @johnmorgan8868 3 місяці тому +11

    He was bang on

  • @TheRussRave
    @TheRussRave 3 місяці тому +17

    Enoch Powell deserves a posthumous knighthood!

    • @toastedterps
      @toastedterps 2 місяці тому

      It will be done.

    • @SagaciousFrank
      @SagaciousFrank 2 місяці тому

      An intelligent man and I broadly liked what he had to say, but he made some grave errors on domestic policy, as he advocated for the abolition of mental health wards.

    • @stevengibbons8638
      @stevengibbons8638 Місяць тому

      The best❤

  • @johnpugh3348
    @johnpugh3348 9 місяців тому +44

    Every day someone says to me "ENOCH WAS RIGHT"

    • @madeleinebell559
      @madeleinebell559 8 місяців тому +3

      Really, every day? I'm 61 years old and no one has ever said that to me, not once in 61 years.

    • @johnpugh3348
      @johnpugh3348 8 місяців тому +4

      @@madeleinebell559 You are mixing with different people to me, so we are both correct.

    • @Powerhaus88
      @Powerhaus88 7 місяців тому +5

      @@madeleinebell559 Don't hang out with self-hating liberals then.

    • @madeleinebell559
      @madeleinebell559 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Powerhaus88 Don't be silly, do you really think in 61 years I have only met, worked with or talked to one group or type of people? Now you are making yourself look dumb.

    • @shunkadee1299
      @shunkadee1299 7 місяців тому +1

      Are these people who say this to you in the room with us now?

  • @peteratkinson922
    @peteratkinson922 11 місяців тому +22

    So true. Its the numbers. His prediction has come to fruition.

  • @Ryan-on5on
    @Ryan-on5on 4 місяці тому +5

    Regardless of one's position on the issue at hand, it must be admitted that this level of intellectual debate is seldom seen in public forums - political or otherwise - these days. Dr. Miller and Enoch Powell were both well-skilled in the form of verbal exchange that allowed ideas to be constructed and conveyed in a respectful, collegiate manner devoid of ad hominem, straw dog tactics, non-sequiturs, and other fallacious reasoning. How I wish we could return to this more civilized time!

  • @jackto7669
    @jackto7669 11 місяців тому +12

    Bill Maher wishes he had this kind of candor on his program.

    • @chaipup7045
      @chaipup7045 10 місяців тому

      well, he doesn't have the intellect.

  • @backcountrymon
    @backcountrymon 3 місяці тому +5

    Only now yam listening......he was right

  • @bradleymilton9372
    @bradleymilton9372 3 місяці тому +5

    Enoch was right look at uk now

  • @daniele.tbarrett1630
    @daniele.tbarrett1630 6 місяців тому +16

    In the end, powell was right

  • @kanelowrey5172
    @kanelowrey5172 9 місяців тому +18

    Enoch Powell is laughing beyond the grave, “I was right!”

    • @stud105
      @stud105 8 місяців тому +1

      He loved his country too much to be "laughing". Britain will be a Degenerate cesspit by 2040

    • @clonliffepanther
      @clonliffepanther 7 місяців тому +8

      Crying I suspect

    • @FlaviusConstantinus306
      @FlaviusConstantinus306 5 місяців тому +5

      I doubt he’d be laughing about this.

    • @gimmethepinkelephant3685
      @gimmethepinkelephant3685 Місяць тому

      I doubt he's laughing. His home is being destroyed along with the rest of western civilization.

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 3 місяці тому +1

    Truth/honest rhetoric, improves health of nation

  • @pileshmuzma9406
    @pileshmuzma9406 4 місяці тому +5

    When Enoch realized he was sitting next to a fool he did not get angry; he doesn't feel indignation (or at least doesn't show it). He simply framed the rambling retrospectively with one word "splendid." And the audience instantly realized what they just heard was entirely vacuous, and the man sitting before them isn't a man at all, but rather a collection of antirational superstition.

  • @NikCherk
    @NikCherk 2 місяці тому +1

    Early life
    Miller grew up in St John's Wood, London, in a well-connected Jewish family. His father Emanuel (1892-1970), who was of Lithuanian descent and suffered from severe rheumatoid arthritis, was a military psychiatrist and subsequently a paediatric psychiatrist at Harley House.

    • @getlost3346
      @getlost3346 2 місяці тому +1

      And today, the highest anxiety are faced by Jewish Brits due to the Arab Palestinian violence and a week British government.

  • @thirstypilgrim97
    @thirstypilgrim97 3 місяці тому +6

    Sorry Mr. MIller, but a british Nana never blew up a concert full of teenage British girls.

  • @horroroffab
    @horroroffab Місяць тому

    The kind of thought provoking discussion that would be classed as offensive and for which both sides would be cancelled for participating.

  • @craigsimons817
    @craigsimons817 5 місяців тому +8

    Can he be given a Knighthood posthumously!

  • @Wicked6975
    @Wicked6975 11 місяців тому +10

    Brilliant debate. So has England faired better or worse, and has the culture stayed intact since this Cavett episode originally aired?

    • @PrimeGroup-m3q
      @PrimeGroup-m3q 10 місяців тому +8

      He predicted the future and as he stated here he underestimated the problem

    • @JohnSmith-it6hj
      @JohnSmith-it6hj 10 місяців тому +1

      better for some worse for most.

    • @chaipup7045
      @chaipup7045 10 місяців тому

      considering his political party has been in power for most of these years, worse.

    • @chaipup7045
      @chaipup7045 10 місяців тому

      @@PrimeGroup-m3q chortle

    • @JohnSmith-it6hj
      @JohnSmith-it6hj 10 місяців тому

      Blair is the architect of the current state of Britain.@@chaipup7045

  • @mikehiggins946
    @mikehiggins946 5 місяців тому +5

    I never realized there were so many do gooders around back then. I thought virtue signaling as a policy choice was a new phenomenon. I guess it's always been easy to act like you deeply care about something when it doesn't cost you anything to say so. This kind of pretending has cost the west dearly and it's still going strong today. Those in charge of making immigration policies are never affected by the consequences of their own ideology. It's easy to say "let everyone in" when you live in a gated community with private security.

  • @jane2539
    @jane2539 4 місяці тому +7

    Jonathan Miller was so supercilious and patronising, trying to blind with his vocabulary but it didn't work!

  • @MapleSyrupPoet
    @MapleSyrupPoet 3 місяці тому +2

    "Not live in a fools paradise" - Enoch 😅

  • @ninjaskeleton6140
    @ninjaskeleton6140 Місяць тому

    Enoch Powell was right about everything except the extent of the problems. It’s worse than he thought it would be.

  • @bobtaylor170
    @bobtaylor170 11 місяців тому +25

    My Lord, Miller is the epitome of the cosseted elitist, completely unsympathetic to the way those who aren't upper clahhhsss have to live.

    • @jdawe390
      @jdawe390 11 місяців тому +3

      Do you mean Powell? Miller here was defending the immigration of foreign workers

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 11 місяців тому +15

      @@jdawe390 yes, whom he could insulate himself against the culture and lifestyles of. Powell was advocating on behalf of the ordinary people of Britain. They could not afford to do so.
      Without exception, people like you have never had Third World cultures forced upon them. You have the money to buy yourself distance from them while you inveigh against the supposed racism of those who do not.

    • @mr.mayhem7402
      @mr.mayhem7402 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@jdawe390 No. Powell was not upper class. His dad was headmaster of a primary school, but he was self-made. Passes his 11+; went to gammar school; scholarship to Cambridge; spoke several languages; Professor at the age of 25; joined the army as a private and rose through the ranks to become brigadier; etc; etc. This information is publicly available. In fairness, Miller wasn't Upper class either. They both came from a middle-class background.

  • @robleeuknhl3345
    @robleeuknhl3345 5 місяців тому +2

    He really didn't think the old person argument through....it was so ridiculous

  • @schmuck3787
    @schmuck3787 3 місяці тому +1

    he honestly compared unlimited immigration from foreign countries to letting our senior citizens live a bit longer in grace and comfort?1

  • @Apathynosebleed
    @Apathynosebleed 11 місяців тому +2

    Fairly bonkers!

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +3

      He was a Daring, Truth Teller.💯

    • @wraithby
      @wraithby 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes, Miller isn't all there...

    • @VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke
      @VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke 9 місяців тому

      @@wraithby that nonsensical ageist argument, he got his dues at the end.

  • @josephineajayi1403
    @josephineajayi1403 2 місяці тому +1

    the battle of who can use the most and best vocabulary, cavett looked confused about what they are talking about🤣🤣

  • @glennfriedman9507
    @glennfriedman9507 11 місяців тому +1

    Where can I find the whole thing?

  • @chrisekstrom4614
    @chrisekstrom4614 11 місяців тому +23

    God Bless Enoch! R.I.P. 🇺🇸✝️🇬🇧

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

  • @horroroffab
    @horroroffab Місяць тому

    If the situation was reversed and 100s of thousands of people from Britain were emigrating / seeking asylum to these countries what would the reaction be?

  • @WahrheitMachtFrei.
    @WahrheitMachtFrei. 11 місяців тому +78

    Enoch Powell: the greatest Prime Minister Britain never had.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 11 місяців тому +15

      Only for the bigots.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@TheDanEdwards....No----Only for the Honest and Courageous.💯😃

    • @Henderburn2
      @Henderburn2 11 місяців тому

      He was a racist and everything he says here has been conclusively and obviously proven wrong. So yeah, the kind of person who’s been running Britain for a while now.

    • @fnee9938
      @fnee9938 10 місяців тому +1

      He shouldn't have been a prime minister because he had to be a monarch.

  • @tilst15381
    @tilst15381 Місяць тому

    Everything he said is here now.

  • @bigpeeler
    @bigpeeler 11 місяців тому

    Thank you. 👍

  • @PhilAlumb
    @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +21

    Powell....is Brilliant and What he's said has come true. That's Why he's Attacked and Labelled. He's UNMASKED what's happening Then..and Now.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 11 місяців тому

      Powell’s motivation was neoliberalism. This stuff was his mask.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

  • @thirstypilgrim97
    @thirstypilgrim97 3 місяці тому +1

    The intellectual vs the Theater kid.
    What was Miller even on about concerning old people? Does he not know that an affinity for your own family far surpasses any generational differences?

  • @greggraime2738
    @greggraime2738 3 місяці тому +2

    The most vindicated politician ever.

  • @mrwu2
    @mrwu2 9 місяців тому +1

    Owner of the channel got shook that powell was getting too much support haha. Orwelian guys

  • @richardwillford2418
    @richardwillford2418 2 місяці тому +1

    Today's discussion on this very topic is a carbon copy of this 53-year-old clip: Facts against feelings, purveyors of facts being accused of stirring up hatred, and a belief that closing our eyes will make problems go away.
    But there's also a difference. Leaders speaking out back then, were of a different intellectual calibre than now. Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson, Donald Trump... It's sad to see.

    • @NANR-jn3be
      @NANR-jn3be Місяць тому

      Yes and even then the quality of the culture and it's people had fallen tremendously over the 53 year period before this clip.

  • @NANR-jn3be
    @NANR-jn3be Місяць тому

    Early life check.

  • @michaelpuente3352
    @michaelpuente3352 11 місяців тому +10

    What a great conversation. My generation needs this type of disburse!!

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +1

      They're heads are too filled with Rediculous Nonsense & Propaganda. They DON'T understand Critical Thinking...but they'll Live the Outcome.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

    • @Henderburn2
      @Henderburn2 11 місяців тому

      There are still racists around, even some in the Conservative Party!

  • @everythingmeansnothing4019
    @everythingmeansnothing4019 11 місяців тому +9

    Enoch was on the ball !

  • @sacredsoma
    @sacredsoma 10 місяців тому +16

    Jonathan Miller was such a vapid shallow performer, he did not even seem to understand the meaning of the terms he threw around. Just After Enoch Powell has finished saying the numbers (an EMPIRICAL fact) were underestimated by all including him and one has to take the challenge of the incoming numbers seriously, Miller starts an annoying lecture on how RATIONALISM can seriously undermine the EMPIRICAL validity of an argument. Without daring to even confront the EMPIRICALLY valid facts that Enoch had arrayed both in his infamous speech and in the studio. Miller then goes on to provide just the sort of pesuo-RATIONAL or RATIONALISTIC argument he accuses Powell of, by asserting that unless a folk be told by an agent in office, they will have no problem with their ethnic replacement on mass scale.

    • @chaipup7045
      @chaipup7045 10 місяців тому +2

      bless. We're still here and Enoch is still wrong.

    • @alexandermelbaus2351
      @alexandermelbaus2351 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@chaipup7045 Did we listen to the same Enoch Powell? Enoch is still wrong?

    • @Heligoland360
      @Heligoland360 5 місяців тому +1

      @@chaipup7045 Yeah he was wrong, he underestimated the numbers.

  • @louduva9849
    @louduva9849 11 місяців тому +7

    Christ, Miller was so oleaginous.

  • @Mistral434
    @Mistral434 11 місяців тому +20

    If we had listened to such harsh truths, instead of the gentle lies of the pro-immigration stance, this country would be a vastly better place.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 11 місяців тому +1

      It literally wouldn’t, given his underlying motivation was exactly what we got economically.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +5

      Yes. We should have listened to Enoch. 💯

    • @sophitsa79
      @sophitsa79 11 місяців тому

      I really think you need to be much more concerned about the white politicians who have been running the country. They are horribly, dirty liars and ruining the country. Some low class family in Birmingham is not what is dragging down the economic system, the education system, the health system of the country

    • @johnpugh3348
      @johnpugh3348 8 місяців тому

      Well said,

  • @louduva9849
    @louduva9849 11 місяців тому +6

    'the influx from the land of the dead'
    They weren't sending their best.

  • @toastedterps
    @toastedterps 2 місяці тому

    Dick Cavett sounds like the NeoCon William Buckley.

  • @markhayward7400
    @markhayward7400 3 місяці тому

    Enoch Powell was a highly intelligent and erudite man and one of the great political orators of his time in politics. He was also a racist and profoundly wrong, not just about the problems facing the UK but also the remedies needed to solve those problems.

    • @NANR-jn3be
      @NANR-jn3be Місяць тому

      Lol, you're about as serious a man as a Donkey Show in Tijuana.

  • @nbarrett100
    @nbarrett100 11 місяців тому +14

    Lots of people in the comments will say Powell was right. Between 1995 and 2019 immigration to the UK went up by 166%. In the same years, crime fell by 40%. The city with the most immigration (London) is also the city with the strongest economy. The rivers here are not red with blood, they are brown with sewage

    • @dreadfulspiller8766
      @dreadfulspiller8766 11 місяців тому

      I'm guessing they weren't moslems.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 11 місяців тому

      @@dreadfulspiller8766 Maybe you're just a bigot.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому +1

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

    • @ls1476
      @ls1476 11 місяців тому +17

      London has a strong economy because of the financial sector of The City/Canary Wharf. Crimes went down because a lot of them ceased to be recorded (like how drug possession is just ignored by police these days). Immigration under Blair, Cameron et all has been disastrous.

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@ls1476...💯Truth

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank 2 місяці тому +1

    Johnathan Miller's argument is fallacious. While an ageing population brings its own very startling challenges both economic and cultural, this is in fact a reason to limit migration, and thereby not further add additional strain and stress on culture and economics. Yet bizarrely he posited this metaphor/analogy to somehow defend policies which add to burdens naturally advanced by an ageing population. Our ancestors earned the right to be here and we wouldn't be here without them. Just because on average they're living longer whether due to healthier live styles or medical science doesnt give a free pass for the entire world to come here to settle. Silly logic, and Powell adequately rebuts and compartmentalises them as mutually exclusive.

  • @schlongersaurus
    @schlongersaurus 11 місяців тому +3

    I love Jonathan Miller 💞

    • @septimiusseverus165
      @septimiusseverus165 10 місяців тому +11

      He makes a fool of himself here.

    • @gozorak
      @gozorak 9 місяців тому

      He did indeed. Apparently Mr Miller believes that a family living in a house on fire would not know to be fearful or afraid unless and until a government official alterted them to be so. @@septimiusseverus165

    • @VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke
      @VioletBagpipeSack-xf3ke 9 місяців тому +10

      I love Enoch Powell 💔

  • @duki4631
    @duki4631 6 місяців тому +1

    the american audience: tell them a fairy tale and they clap

  • @WrightsW5
    @WrightsW5 11 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam says 38 comments, but I only see 32.

  • @culturehorse
    @culturehorse 11 місяців тому +7

    Post Brexit and previously, Powel's case is more than adequately rested. Additionally it can be seen here who and why the present demise of UK upon whom that rests and UK's Globalist social migration catastrophe vs. 'rationalist' policies that unfortunately were superceded is responsible for (hint: it ain't Powel). Timely historical revisit. RIP UK Additionally, globalst not only marshalls argumentation in favor of effective euthenasia but outright Malthusianism of the old. A perfect reveal if there was one. Thanks for these uploads.

    • @TheDanEdwards
      @TheDanEdwards 11 місяців тому +3

      Keep crying.

    • @jgmediting7770
      @jgmediting7770 11 місяців тому

      Powell’s literal motivation was neoliberalism. Or globalism as you call it.

    • @FatMarlonBrando
      @FatMarlonBrando 11 місяців тому

      Like all the aristocracy, Powell spoke well and sounded clever, but is a disingenuous f**kwit. He seems to forget that he encouraged and enabled mass immigration from the Caribbean and South Asia in the early-60s in his time as health minister, and that these immigrants helped save our health service and our nation - typical of the ruling classes to be pro-immigration when it serves them economically, and anti-immigration when it serves them electorally. They are completely cynical and spineless in their ‘beliefs’, and entirely self-serving. Later on, in 1968 shortly before “Rivers of Blood…”, Powell trundled out some spurious nonsense about a constituent of his in Wolverhampton who’s daughter was being bullied as the only white person in her class. Journalists could not find the child or the class, and had actually received similar claims themselves that they had traced back to the National Front (crucially, with evidence). When confronted about this, Powell would not accept it, sticking to his dogmatic nationalist bulls**t despite evidence staring him in the face. Some intelligence. I’m glad this c**t died the year I was born, good riddance - hopefully the stain he’s left on this country will die off in my lifetime too.

    • @culturehorse
      @culturehorse 11 місяців тому

      @@TheDanEdwards ..not crying. Affirming a flaw in the grand design. Fk off btw & good holidays.

    • @louduva9849
      @louduva9849 11 місяців тому

      Not much of an argument.@@TheDanEdwards

  • @abdullahaanawaleh
    @abdullahaanawaleh 3 місяці тому

    Enoch was a fool