Chinese diesel heater -30°C Cold Start
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- 5kw all in one heater starting in -30°C. Impressed at how little smoke before ignition this close to it's -40°C minimum operating temperature. Will only put out about 100-110°C outlet temp running it hard at this ambient temperature. Would definately want to heat recirculation air if using to warm an enclosed area as heating outside air would eat fuel and battery.
Exhaust needs to be point downwards or the moisture in the bottom bend will eventually block the exhaust and throw a code
Not as long as the exhaust gas temperature is hot enough. Notice that the water vapor from combustion is moving up and out of the exhaust pretty well.
But pointing it down wouldn't hurt.
After installing a diesel heater in my motorhome, I brought one of these portable units thinking it might be a good back up for home heating if the power is off for any length of time..... I had been wondering before going to to much effort if they would still start if things got really cold when might really need it....but this video proves that should not be to much of a problem.
I think everyone should buy one and have on standby in case the power grid fails again in really cold weather.
I saw a video of one used in -45C for some chicken hahaha they are beast just make sure to use antigel
Sounds like an old international scout. Will start even its cold
I just picked up the 8kw variant of this (from Vevor). My pump is a lot quieter, display is a bit different. But so far I've been really impressed with it.
IVE GOT THE 8 kw in my van i fire it up with the remote on cold mornings before i go out ! i love these things !
I accidentally just bought the 5kw version. I was not aware that there was more than one option.
What's the difference? More heat? Should I be concerned that I got the 5kw instead of the 8kw?
@@user-dh4bz7fk9z - who REALLY knows for sure, but some reviewers are saying that they're both the same! I thought someone showed the same fuel consumption between the two, which would say right there that they're the same.
@@DrFiero im not sure i think maybe there 5 to 8 kil thats all i can think of but it will run u out with heat i always keep mine on low .
@@user-dh4bz7fk9z they're the same !
You can easily quiete the pump ..great product .I spent thousands on German stuff .now I use these
How?
@Got2Learn you want advice? Ask me
I like the noise very industrial
Dam that fuel pump slaps harder then my husband I'm that cold weather.
Wow thats crazy cold ! Obviously you were just doing a test 😉 but it sure gives you an idea of what you have to work with !
There she goes boys!!!! yee haw!!!
It would be absolutely perfect if it had a silent fuel pump.
The camera I was using and the cold air made it sound louder but it still is pretty noisy lol
Hi, I watched a video on an additional silent pump, made by someone called James. I will look for it and get back to you. Hand made so might be a slow order.
I found the video that shows the new silent pump system, but no link to the actual unit. Perhaps you might ask him about it. ua-cam.com/video/SmCYQu53umk/v-deo.html
@@gordonmitchell729thanks man!
Bonjour merci pour les conseils et Ta vidéo peut tu me dire si se type de chauffage sont étanche pour restée la nuit dehors
Pretty impressive for the outside temp. My auxiliary diesel in my sailboat doesn't like to start in April after being on the hard. She's originally from the Caribbean and didn't come with glow plugs. I would imagine that the fuel pump would be quieter with the heater inside, not having to push the colder fuel through the lines.
Lil whiff of ether would probably get your engine going. As long as you don't give it too much it shouldn't hurt it with no preheat on it
How can ot start without a glow plugs? It's source of ignition on these.
@@Mchacz8008 not true, glow plugs only heat up the cylinder for a faster start. Diesel ignites with compression. It does not require a source of ignition. Too main items required for a running diesel engine is compression and good fuel pressure. Clean fuel is really important as well.
Ok, every diesel heater video comment I see mentions to point your exhaust down or water will…blah blah blah! I would really like to see somebody create this event without having a insane length of exhaust pipe. The output at your first bend is WELL over 250F at the lowest setting. I put a double length of piping together and pointed it straight up in 28 F conditionS and had zero water build up after cooldown and exhaust disassembly. Prove me wrong, I would really like to eat my words and gain some knowledge at the same time. Thanks
This video I had it pointed up just to test it in the cold. I did see a video where a guy piped it into the exhaust of his van and it plugged up on him, probably due to large surface area of his exhaust pipe slowing down the flow, but you are probably right. The one I have on my pickup both the intake and the exhaust have low spots, not extreme but still lower than the inlet/outlet. I drilled about a 1/16" hole at the low point in both pipes and have not had a problem with them. Runs once a week for about 4 hours at 1.8hz and sometimes short stints at 3.2hz to preheat the cab before I start it.
normal they spray smal amount of butane into intake but very small
Must not be too effective heating interior enclosed spaces if it is drawing outside cold air--heating it and discharging into desired heated space.
I was just testing it in this case but yes you would want to recirculate if you were heating a space up.
Although cold air from outside contains much higher oxygen levels than warm interior air, that is a physics fact...Fuel flow rate and dispersal is negatively effected by colder temps, I'm not sure there is any negative effect from locating the device outside though..The chamber will burn at the same temperature, whether inside or outside, the glow plug heats the fuel and air for combustion..You would want the air that is heated, that flows over the burn chamber and into your contained space to be inside air, but not the air that is burnt, that should probably be outside air, which is returned to the outside through the exhaust...
funny thing is when u started it the temp was already up at 3bars. surely if u left it outside at -30, it should be reading zero bar on heater casing temp. ????
I think it was set to level 3. This is the "new style" controller, it can either be set to a certain temp or five (I think) different levels it doesn't have specific Hz setting
@@juliogonzo2718 exactly right
Noisy boy. But a good test none the less. Im looking to get one sonthese things help
That's funny when I saw your comment I was already thinking about that heater. I have never found a use for it but I am thinking of buying a house with a small garage. Might be able to use it to warm it up while fixing my vehicle. Probably would be in shit with insurance if they found out though. I have another one I mounted under the back seat in my pickup and I ran it a lot instead of idling last winter and it probably paid for itself in not burning gas in my engine.
@@Another-Address yeah I'm kind of thinking the same. With what is going on in the world right now who knows what this winter will bring. There could be disruptions of energy. I live in an apartment with electric heat but thinking of making something so I could heat it through a window without causing damage if I had to. I don't know why I care, my new landlord is causing me difficulties that could interfere with my employment. Trying to buy a house but that may be out of reach.
that display unit on the front don't add up
no propper readout fan not showing rotation
glow plug is not lit up
timer is not showing
temp bars wrong colour ?
hmmm
Well I don't have the budget for CGI so you are going to have to believe or disbelieve lol
@@juliogonzo2718 I read through the comments on your video, I think people just don't believe -30 is a real thing... So this must obviously be fake lol
@@GordonTurnerr it's cold af I know that much
Guessing the display is too cold to read correctly until its warmed up.
I would have to shut that up put a quiet pump on it. I've just put mine inside a 200x200 PVC electrical box with very high density foam all around the wall including the lid. But I haven't got the unit in a box like this.
Yeah it's pretty loud, the Mic on that camera makes it sound even louder. I bought that one intending to keep it for emergencies. Was going to put it in my work vehicle and figure a way to put it out side and run heater hoses in through the window. Never got around to that. I have one of the smaller 2kw ones mounted to the floor behind the seat of my personal vehicle and the fuel pump is mounted to the frame rail. It saved me some gas sitting in my vehicle as I didn't have to idle my vehicle to stay warm. I just had to keep an eye on the voltage. Maybe used 3-5L of diesel all winter. Ran it for about two hours a week on my day off.
@@juliogonzo2718
So 3-5L all winter is 2 hours a week? Or more?
@@MaximC I ran it at 1.8hz which is about 142 ml of fuel per hour (1.8 pulses per second, 0.022ml per pulse). Kept the cab of a small pickup warm enough I didn't have to run the engine exept when the battery started getting below 12v
Are you using your car battery to run this whole night?
@@1wakurat I'm going to get two 135ah DUEL PURPOSE AGM .... Or just AGM . Not sure yet .. I'd say AGM Only will start my 4 liter diesel truck motor. And run an inverter better. Need to find out.
Seems like there is a variant of these. I have the same looking one but my pump sound is barely noticeable. Only thing that bothers me is the tank cap, doesn’t seal good and leaks as the fuel slashes from one side to the other while im driving. Tried to add a gasket, reduced it a bit. still need to find a way
I think the shitty camera i was using made it sound louder than it actually is but its still loud as the pump is mounted to the steel case. The rubber hanger thing would have been rock hard too at -30. I have one of the physically smaller 2kw models in the cab of my pickup. It came with one of the larger tanks that is vertically oriented. You could use one of those and fill it to 3/4 and it really can't slosh bad enough to leak out of the cap. Mine is mounted in the bed and the pump is on the frame so it is very quiet. You can hear it ticking outside the truck but I can barely hear it in the cab. I do have a cap on the bed so the tank can't get water in it
Put a O ring On the cap. Maybe make a gasket out of some rubber.
Put a zip food bag over it and put cap on while driving
How did you stop the diesel gumming up at -30 C. That is an impressive start considering how cold it is. Like n sub.
The fuel sold in Canada during winter months is "winter diesel" that is good to a certain temp, I'm not sure at what temp it will gel to be honest. Last winter it got down to -38°C a couple mornings and none of the trucks at my work had fuel gelling issues. Nothing else worked right though lol
@@juliogonzo2718 Supposedly here in the uk the diesel can start to gel at -10 centigrade, althougth there are additives you can mix in to stop it at minus temp. Although I don't know what the additives might do to to diesel heater. Thanks for the reply.
@@billienomates1606 you could cut it some with whatever the UK equivalent of K1 kerosene is to lower the cloud point. Kerosene is much more expensive than diesel here. Clear diesel is I think about $2.20/L dyed (red) diesel about $2.05/L. I just bought a 3.79L jug of K1 kerosene and it was $18.63
@@juliogonzo2718 Thankyou for the info, appreciated.
@@juliogonzo2718 if only supllimentary recreational heat run k1 all the time. Much cleaner and more dependable.
Isolate the fuel pomp with hand of Rockwool. The exhaust with Rockwool band. Stand 2 is good enough
Actually I just ordered some silicone/fibreglass fire sleeve for the exhaust
@@juliogonzo2718 better.
I im Dutch. It is Crazy
The winter is next week. Pray for people without heating. I have 300 liter diesel. And fire Stove. I am reddy. 😖 Not Happy..
@@RV-gy2jo I am worried about you guys in Europe this winter. I don't know what has happened, the world has gone crazy the last few years. We are lucky in Canada to have energy resources, but they are trying to move toward more green energy and electrification that could leave us vulnerable in the future if there is no redundant other source of energy. Good luck, the Netherlands has been through worse times in the past, you are strong people.
@@RV-gy2jo also you should look into kerosene wick stoves from china. I have ordered a few online. There are some with 8-10 cotton wicks that can apparently be replaced with strands from a cotton mop head. From what I understand you can burn diesel in them if they have a cotton wick, if they are fibreglass wick the diesel will plug the wick with carbon. Very simple device that could be used to boil water or cook food using small amount of fuel.
@@juliogonzo2718 thanks, i have a heat pomp boiler and 20 solar panels my house is special isolated and have big garden. I can cook on a pertro stove. And have infrared panels. This was 3 years ago told to do. This energy thing is a control thing. Like China is doing.
I know the winter wil do terrible things.
In Germany and Poland. . The world is Crazy. My investment was always backup creations. Dutcht are strong peol. But manny are a sleep. And have delay. I have also big camper with complete energy supply. Solar,accu,shouwer,boiler. And have a place in Sweden ore France.
We have one is does great.must ventintolate when using
why ventilate?
@@Nordic_Mechanic any time your using fuel diesel or other fuel need to ventilate so you dont inhale fumes from fuel.
@@lauracline6109 These heaters do not use interior air or exhaust into interior air. They have an intake and exhaust tube outside what you are heating. It's not like a propane stove or buddy heater
pretty loud but its all in how this was micced
Yeah I was using a camera that had a sensitive mic. It's noisy but this video exaggerated it. The cold somehow makes it louder too
Im a German Chanal for Diesel Heater
I accidentally just bought the 5kw version. I was not aware that there was more than one option.
What's the difference? More heat? Should I be concerned that I got the 5kw instead of the 8kw?
From what I understand the 8kw is just a 5kw that says 8 on it
@@juliogonzo2718 Correct - just a way of robbing more $$ from your pocket
The noise is nog voor.someting is wrong
Verry noissy🤔
Is that fuel gelled or did you include some additive to keep it liquid
Regular pump diesel. It's winter fuel here though I think October to March.