The motorbike parts Neevesy would upgrade | MCN | Motorcyclenews.com
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- There are countless upgrades and aftermarket parts available for motorbikes, but what will actually leave you with a better bike when you fit them?
Chief Road Tester, Michael 'Neevesy' Neeves takes us through the things he would consider changing and why.
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Please make that "worst bikes i've ever ridden" video! Would be super interesting to get that personal prespective.
I second that motion
3 years later and I agree!
I’m placing my bet that it’s going to be an MV if Neevesy ever makes it 😉.
Here's a suggestion to pass back to the manufacturers- in the owners manual why don't they suggest suspension settings based on weight, it would make a good starting point.
These "Neevesy chats" videos are awesome.
Enjoyed that Neevesy - another big thumbs up from me....
Worst bikes you've ever ridden, yes please!
K1200s would certainly be in the top 5
Loved the look of it and how it made you feel, but MV Agusta F4 was the most uncomfortable bike I have ridden (at the time I had an 1198).
@Harry Bell Lol, did a big branch flogging to it, did you? ;-)
@Harry Bell I currently feel very similarly about my Daytona 955i. In theory a lovely bike. Except for the fact it keeps dying on me in the middle of nowhere. Came very close to flogging and/or torching it while I was waiting for my wife to come pick me up with the car+trailer. In the rain. At night. Mind you, I did kick it. Twice.
Mt09
Loving these tips sessions. This level of honesty is what riders need. Only surprise is that no one except you has bothered before to give it us.
I've been riding since 75 Neevsy the doc.
He always makes sense and tells it as it is....
I’ve been searching for an answer as to why ABS is dangerous on a track thank you for clearing that up 👍
It is also dangerous on ice, even more so in cars. Brakes stop working.
Another enjoyable watch. Thanks Neevesy! It's so refreshing to hear someone of your experience speak on relatively simple topics. Simple but important. So much common sense and lack of ego. Can't wait for the next one. Stay safe.
Been riding since 76 myself. Enjoy this chaps videos.
Sound and honest advice, especially regarding the Tracer and your observations about the other bikes mentioned. Great video Neevesy! I'm still trying to lock-in my riding preferences for my BMW F900XR. I really enjoy your relaxed and informative videos!
I couldn't believe the improvement in cornering with good tyres. It was night and day which gave me so much more confidence.
Mr. Neevesy, what would we do without you?! Great video as usual. One thing though, don't be so easy on the bike manufacturers! They CAN and SHOULD do better. Bikes are becoming ridiculously expensive, and it's hard to find truly good value bikes. It feels more and more like everything is a "budget" bike (so we "shouldn't expect too much" yeah, right) unless you drop at least around 15k plus Euros (at least here in the Netherlands), which is a huge amount of money for most people. It's just wrong that a nice bike now costs as much or even more than a car! Especially considering all the extra stuff you'll put on the bike as you discuss in this video.
Talking about dropping knowledge, these videos are awesome. From road ridding to the track, pearls of wisdom. Thanks Neevesy!
You should do a podcast. Really enjoying these. The road testers one was awesome. Wish I would have that advice 20 years ago - would have saved a bunch of money and pain.
Finding myself binge-watching Neevesey,,...Feel like Ive learned more watching 4 or 5 of his vids vs a hundred other
Cracking observation! So true.
Another excellent video. I have a lot of experience with Bikes over many Years. I allways learn somthing from the advice you give. This is good stuff!
i went down the same rabbit hole with my MT09. Andreani Fork Cartridges , Nitron rear shock , GPR stabilizer. Ended up gettting rid of it and got a Multistrada 1260S! The money I
put into the MT09 I should have just gotten the multi from the beginning. That engine even with the ECU flash and exhaust was still pretty squirrely on fueling.
Interesting what he said about the chain maintenance and the ABS releasing the brakes on rear wheel lift for Japanese bikes. Cheers! This content is getting me through lockdown!
These videos have been really great and I've really appreciated the information shared. Thanks a lot and keep well.
Sage advice. Totally agree on the can - waste of money - been saying that for ages. The only thing I would add for ADV bikes is proper protection for the frame and engine. I added crash bars and a good skid plate to my F700GS and boy, was that a good idea :-) Handguards too - they saved my right hand from a nasty branch. The F700 gearing is silly-tall so I put an F800 front sprocket on which transformed the bike completely. TKC70's added for a bit of off-road grip and I changed the screen for highway use plus a few other things but it's all combined to make the bike much better for me - none of it too expensive. I don't ride to the limit of the bike so fueling/performance is wasted on me. Off-road suspension on the F700 is not great but there again, neither am I :-)
How can a bike tester sound so sensible spot on again Neevesy, it's the simple things (wallet permitting) that makes a great difference to handling ,comfort & slowing down. Changed discs on a 93 Blade WOW incredible 1/2 finger performance, changed rear shocks (Hagon made to measure)) on a GSX1400 again WOW & tyres on GSX1400 (Pirelli Angel GT2) what a change in wet weather adhesion, no white lining etc. UR right keep the changes simple they work. Keep preaching to us Neevesy cos we need it.
I agree with you about chains. Got a new Versys 1000 and after 2 or 3 days in a warm and dry garage under a cover the chain rusted for no reason whatsoever 😒 thank you so much for the recent videos you’re one wise and knowledgeable man 🙂
It's really great to hear all this stuff. Loving the series. Wish you were more outspoken in your reviews! I know it's a delicate dance to keep manufacturers happy so they invite you next year or similar
Ever ridden a bike straight from the factory that gives you that "magic carpet" ride quality? Would be curious to know if you have, what that bike is/was.
Triumph speed triple 1050 rs with ohlins, on pot hole road racing is alowed, its magic
I have an MT-09 and agree with all that you said about the Tracer/MT good bike but cheap parts ruin it a bit but can be replaced with better bits easily, Helpful video :)
I always used a Scotoiler on my chained bikes. It covered the back end in clag, but I hardly ever had to adjust it, and got around 35000 miles out it.
This is amazing! Thanks so much. I have a street triple rs which is AMAZING as is BUT it could definitely use a power commander to richen up the fuelling and restore some mid range.
Good points on upgrades, but if I spent 11K on a new bike I'd be peed off having to spend good money on items that I would expect to be good quality from the start.
All these suggestions are perfect for me. Thanks 👍🏻
This series of videos has been superb.
Loving these videos. If I can't ride atm, at least I can reflect on riding and think of ways to better my approach. Thanks Neevesy!
What a brilliant video, so very helpful, for any bike. Thank you!
Another quality vid! Maybe a vid on your personal bike or bikes and some history on that?
Well said Neevesy, what you stated is absolutely correct. As an owner of the Tracer 900 GT I can confirm that the bike is an absolute bargain for what it offers. In my personal case I have changed tires (Pirelli Angel GT2), rear shock (Ohlins), fork cartridges (Andreani Misano Evo), Windscreen (Givi) and had IvanPerformance reflashing the ECU. The bike is now a keeper. As for the brakes, you are spot on. Changing to braided lines didn't do much, as some of the lever sponginess has remained. The pads (Brembo SC) were a better investment though.
As you referred to some bikes with bling Ohlins suspensions that are garbage I can confirm that my Monster 1200s is one of those. Having them revalved and resprung made things a little better, but sadly still not great. Cheers!
2015 Suzuki GSX-R750 | Superlite RS7 520 +1 (front - steel) & -2 (rear - aluminum) I Loved it.. quick acceleration and didn't lose much top speed.. yes, I maxed it out a lot. Owned Ducs, Hondas, Yamaha, and Suzuki and I still had tough time deciding to get another brand instead of another Gixxer because those bikes are f'ing awesome.. especially after you mod the hell out of it.
Having finally tried a bike with heated grips I now wonder why they aren't standard on every bike sold in the UK. Everything else is optional but heated grips are a must.
Insightful, informative, no-nonsense. The silver lining to Covid19. Thanks Michael
Supper right on , part of the reason you can't keep up in the turns is they have better set up. That dose mean take your bike to the shop for a full set up and it will return to you a bike that turns better that makes a big difference.
Fantastic advice, cheers Michael. Loving these kinds of videos
Nice vid sir ,the only thing I disagree with is that on all the abs systems I've used ,which is many ,different pads have made a big difference to the initial bite and feel but do agree that abs systems lack the traditional feel that us oldies have relied upon to keep us safe over the years .Yamaha would have sold a lot more bikes if they just upgraded the suspension imho .
That chain thing surprised me,i thought wd etc would destroy the o rings..not lubing? Like i said,surprised.
@@richandiben Nice to know that,its a good cleaner. Cheers :)
O ring and X ring chains are already lubed where needed and sealed with the aforementioned rings, so any thing you aply just sticks to the outside making grinding paste and/or being flung off up one side of your bike, FortNine has some video on it ua-cam.com/video/UrEpAUi_QKA/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/VnPYdcbcAe0/v-deo.html
@@lomate1963 yep, I used to look after the WD-40 production lines and can confirm, GT85 was made there too from the same customer(WD-40).
@@richandiben You can get GT85 in Halfords mate. They tend to keep it in the Cycle section rather that the motorbike section. MO94 is basically the same stuff but made by Mucoff rather than WD40 company.
Well mr neeves how long will a chain last without any lubrication? I don’t believe simply cleaning with gt 85 will protect the o rings. I use engine oil or a scottoiler.
Love the graphics on your Arai. 👍👍
Great video, so many little nuggets of knowledge being shared. Thanks.
Crazy, i've never heard of not lubing a chain! I understand that modern chains have the lube internally, I just assumed the outside needed lubing as well. Learn something new every day. Course I have a shaft drive at the moment so...
Great tips. Not sure about the chain treatment (there is some great testing recently - Bennett's did it I think). EP gear oil and the odd wax lube came out really well.
Having just suffered a crap chain, I went DiD and will look after it with gear oil and a rag (and a good degrease in between).
Thank you
Nice upload.
Never thought of not lubing though, nice
Vilouboy Yeah, the missus wouldn’t be happy
Some good points but I would revise your comments on the ABS and how they function. Only a few ABS systems have pressure generating pumps and most just have the relief valves in them. A normal Bosch 9.1MP unit creates a direct connection between the M/C and the caliper, and would feel almost the same as a direct line. The only difference is that the brake line is a little longer and therefore has less stiffness (but this is marginal). A Bosch ME unit has a pump to generate pressure, but these are only present on high end motorcycles, and the connection is also still direct. The pressure is generated through a check valve and therefore doesn't blow up your M/C. There are no real brake-by-wire motorcycles on the market (actually not allowed under legislation as you have to have brakes in-case of failure) at the moment, and what you are feeling through your fingers is the fluid connected to the pads. Bikes that claim to be brake-by-wire are not really BBW; they must maintain a direct fluid connection, but the ABS can help generate pressure depending on the situation (ie. panic braking). The ABS can only be felt once it intervenes, and reroutes the pressure through the relief valve. Brake bleed quality and sensitivity, brake pad and brake line stiffness have the greatest influence on brake lever feel, in that order pretty much. The ABS system can of course make it harder to bleed, and therefore affect feel; this is a big issue for manufacturers.
I would also argue with your OE tires comment as this is not really the case from my experience. The tire model designation added is often a tune that tire manufacturers make to a carcass to improve the high-speed stability of that bike for the manufacturer. They do not change the compound or overall performance / grip. Tire manufacturers would not taint their tire model / brand for an OE brand just to make it cheaper. I've worked with Dunlop and Pirelli and these designation tires.
I would be happy to discuss these in more detail with you; great videos otherwise!
As a Tracer owner, agree 1000%. The bones and engine are good, the rear shock upgrade was transformative.
I keep my chain well lubed as I imagine it could wear the sprockets quicker without.
Agree with all except the omission of tweaking standard suspension first before messing about with spring replacement...
8:30 The tip about power commander may be out of date now. Power commander recently changed their business model and said they're no longer modifying O2 signals for closed loop operation, only modifying open loop for warm-up and WOT. So I'm not sure if they'll fix snappiness in bikes' throttles anymore. It's a real bummer.
Interesting comment about the chain. I thought you always had to clean and then re-lube? My current process is clean with paraffin and then relube with Wuth Dry Lube.
My exact thoughts on the tracer gt I got last year. I had planned all the mods you mentioned for when the warranty is expired! The tires I already swapped for pr5, but living in Italy I prefer a short screen, as the weather isn't so miserable.
Well lockdown has some advantages, great insight and wisdom in these videos from Neevesy, keep it coming mate!... After lockdown too if possible 😉
Did you mention wheels? CF upgrade is my fave, Handling improves drastically.
Thanks
I’m sure it’ll be a cracking video.....but damn do I hate this “premiers on xx/xx/xxxx at 18:00”.
I know, if its not live, just upload the video and be done with it!
Yeah. Not a fan of the “premiere” thing.
But I’m sure the vid will be good.
Yep. On my 2019 Tracer 900 GT I have the Pirelli Diablo Rosso III. Massive difference.
I swapped the oem tyre for these as well, really improves the ride on my 600f4i
Once you're done with Rosso 3, I would suggest battlax S22. Im always a big fan of Pirelli (supercorsa, Rosso II, Rosso III and Rosso Corsa II), but this time around bridgestone really put a standard to the next level. The only downside is the thread pattern (personal opinion). Nothing beats Pirelli thread pattern. Have fun riding sir.
Got the same exact bike, brilliant points mate, cheers.
I just want to say that both the Ninja 400 and the BMW G310R have a really lovely compromise of suspension. I'm a heavy 205 pound, 6'2" guy yet the G310R is very comfortable and the suspension is excellent at up to 9/10th's. Supportive, yet stable and well-damped without much harshness...impressive given the budget stuff. Ninja 400 suspension is also equally amazing for budget stuff although more performance oriented and holds up even at 9.5/10ths. Ninja 400 is very well-rounded in every performance metric...no glaring issues. Where-as the G310R has a notchy (in a bad way) gearbox, and vibrates too much and in a less pleasant way than other single cylinders. Both bikes however suffer from poor clutches. The G310R clutch squawks on heavy load, especially when oil is cold (think going up a steep ramp out of your garage) and the Ninja 400 has very weak clutch springs, which means slippage/wear starts to occur very quickly...like as early as a few thousand miles. Anyways, this is rambly....I wish I was a tester haha. I have much to say!
My Ninja 400 just had 1 year service. 3500 miles on it and was informed by the garage they noticed the clutch was slipping on the road test. Never felt it myself, but was surprised to hear this after so few miles
@@1986ceaster To be honest, a big part of it has to do with clutch lever adjustment. You can fry a clutch within several hundred miles if there's no slack. I doubt your bike actually has a slipping clutch (that's probably not until at least 6-7k miles I'm guessing, but I'm sure it feels very worn. When you've ridden many bikes you'll get a better sense of this. Worn clutches feel like a rubber band. Best way to feel this is to simulate the motion of doing a wheelie without actually doing one. Based on how quickly and hard the clutch grabs, you can feel the life. I'm curious if using heavier duty springs would solve the problem. I know it did in the original Ninja 250's.
very enjoyable kind of videos over the past few weeks. Keep it up. Very informative.
Keep preaching Neevesy, your vids are always the best 👍
Great video. Shame that some expensive new bikes need that extra spend on basics like screens, seats etc. Keep these videos coming
What a Great video I totally understand and agree with everything to the t that you have just said, thanks very much.
These vids are awesome. Great info and food for thought. Keep them coming, please!
OEM tyres are rarely what you get if you buy that tyre separately. They are usually a cheap version with less tread and made in a different factory just so the manufacturer can say they have that tyre stock. Don't judge a tyre based on what rolls out of a factory on a bike.
Neevesy always LIKE
Great video Michael, thank you. I do take issue with the ZX10R comparison with the WSB bike. It's apples vs oranges as you say. Apples vs apples would be Superstock, in which the ZX10R also did really, really well, whereas the bikes that beat it handily in MCN's tests back in 2016 (R1 and S1K if I recall correctly) came absolutely nowhere. Cheers, and keep up the good work. P.S. Please do the 'worst bikes' video.
Always got to get an Exhaust just to release the hidden exhaust note hidden by the euro 4/5 and also the weight
This video really made me think what would make my F 900 R a better bike I agree the rubber they come with is wrong. I’m about 160 pounds what else would you do that bike if it was yours? Another great video Hope to hear more down the road
Great stuff! Keep it coming! 👍🏻
Neevesy's worst bikes would be a hilarious video
Hi from Canada Michael. Another great video! One of many I have watched since I really appreciate your content including test rides. My question to you would be in my quesy for a super Sport bike despite it being a dying breed, which would you suggest? 2008 gsxr 750 which I could obtain sooner due to pricing, or hold out for a new version zx6r?
waiting, I am enjoying this session alright.
Great information Neevsey. In the 2 finger braking (middle + ring), can you use that approach on all braking systems? I have an axial master cylinder on my srad 750 and it feels like my index finger being between the lever and the handlebar would prevent full braking
very informative and educative Neeves, thanks a lot.
I think you've hit the nail on the head mate. The tracer is 11K with suspension and tyres that are not great. So by the time you have sorted that and the fuelling to get a bike that you want. Your looking at a 14K tracer. I wanted a super duke R. I rode a standard one and it was okay. Then they gave me one with a full akrvpovic exhaust. Totally different bike. Amazing and exactly what I wanted!! perfect. Ktm want me to spend the best part of 16K on a super duke and then an additional 3K turning into the bike it should have been. I understand the emissions tests and thats why their 2 strokes come fitted with an exhaust that chokes the bike. In the box with it, comes the full fat exhaust exhaust. Why can't they do this with the super duke? It doesn't need to be titanium. It just needs to be free of the emissions bollocks. I get the distinct impression that its another cash cow and its also why a super duke R is not sat in my garage.
Really enjoyed your chat and learned loads so thanks interesting subjects
Great video Neevesy, question if you. MT10 or MT10SP? Of course I am biased as I own the SP 👍
My fav channel and presenter.
Great advice, thank you very much for sharing.
Keep it up MCN this was good stuff. Very informative
Great video Great content 👍
Brilliant vid. Loads of great knowledge.
this man knows his stuff. I always enjoy mcn. one thing though we 40 is not the best for bike chains. it's great stuff but not for bike chains.
Very good mate. More please.
Fascinating stuff, love it.
really enjoyed all the insights. Thanks.
Thanks Neevesy, great content again!
Best video no doubt
What a great video. Excellent advice! :-)
Another great vid Neevesy
Another really useful video.
Fair play your vids are great. But the adverts 🙈
Thank you great informative video 👍🏾
Great Vid Thank You
excellent tips.
Is there a video comparison between the F900XR and the Tracer 900 GT? I 've seen the F900XR and looks great in person.