fantastic WELL DONE!! oooh those good old amiga days i had so much fun with the amiga 500+ AND 1200 octamed is where it all started for me trying to make some tunes and the demoscene was great with cool graphics and music those days where golden
Thanks a lot! Yes, sweet memories from these golden days :) I have a few other tracker songs on my channels that I made back in the days - quite recently filmed from the good old unit I had on the attic...
Just goes to show you the amount of talent and work that went into these songs back in the day. This was really well done! I wish devices like this had the ability to consolidate tracks automatically. Would make the process of creation in this style much easier.
Thanks! Yes, having limitations forces people to go the extra mile :) A ”compress/merge-down-with-sample-locks”-feature would be nice, but one part of the puzzle/fun is to actually see where you have free slots and come up with things that fit.
tubesockor indeed. That was definitely easier when you're using a tracker because you can see the gaps across the tracks. Also, just picked up my Model:Samples tonight! I'll let you know when I've ported Space Debris over 😁
@@tubesockor I really love the stuff towards the end where you are experimenting! Would absolutely love to hear you do your own take/version of crystal hammer sometime. Keep up the good work!
tubesockor it's unreal what these machines are capable of. Showing people how trackers worked, then how those concepts can be applied here, is very cool.
Thanks! I have tried the Polyend Tracker as well and liked it, but it kind of was a bit almost ”too good” with all the channels, reverb send etc. I like to either have constrained limitations - or go full DAW with all that is available.
Yes, it was fun to make it! I don’t think I saved the samples though, but it is pretty easy to do - just follow the instructions and the exact parameters written.
I’ve been working with mod files since they early 1990s, and I think you put a lot more work into this project than you needed to. I do have to compliment your effort though, the finished product is excellent. I believe every tracker I’ve used for as far back as I can remember allows you to extract the samples from the song file. It would have probably been a lot less trouble than seeking out the original samples from an archive. You said you then had to recreate every pattern, event by event. Did you try using a tool like mod2midi to convert the the patterns to a midi sequence? It may not have carried over everything, but the notes for each part would be set to a different midi channel.
Thanks, happy you liked it! But hehe, ”making things a little more complicated that they need to” is basically the theme of this channel :) Checkout my Warhawk on TI-82 for instance. If I wanted to be practical in music making I would just use Logic :D I’m well aware of the different methods (also made music on my trusty A500 since I got it back in 87), but here I first wanted to try to see how the ST-01 disk would sound. Making a song was just a fun way of trying it out. Using some kind of mod2midi tool in between would most likely miss some information, and I wanted a 1:1 representation of things. It was actually not so much work to do this after all. And not to forget, had fun in the process:)
Thanks! The sound engine in the Cycles is very different from a sample dito, so the exact same thing can’t be done. But of course, a version with something similar - or even more complex could be done.
At about 2:08 in the video I actually show exactly which programs and arguments I used. Pause it and take a look! And if you still have questions after that, just let me know!
I had crystal hammer with the red sector cracktro (which ironically used another Obarski tune, amegas) and when I got my A500 in 1988 was so impressed from the quality of the music, almost a record level for me! This machine look funny, and reproduction is excellent, just that the 8bit to 16 bit conversion of samples lost a bit of the crispness of paula
Yes, back then there weren’t many tracker musicians so Obarski's material was much of what was available :) Got my own A500 back in 87 and I also remember Amegas as one of the classic tunes. I only naively converted the raw samples and let the M:S do the rest of the work so the interpolation/pitch shifting is quite different. Thereby no aliasing and fixed filter effects of Paula :)
Thanks! It doesn't have a song mode per se, but you can chain patterns in one chain. So I could have done that here, but it was more fun to change them actively :)
Ah, sorry - I don’t have it stored in the device anymore and don’t always save everything... Might have a backup somewhere though, will see if I can find it.
If you have a mac or a linux computer, make sure to install ”sox” and then just pause the video and copy the script as showed :) Let me know if you need help with it.
@croay Shouldn’t be hard. Check the screen at 2:21 and I’m sure there is a very similar way in Windows batch file / powershell etc. I don’t have a Win computer anymore so can’t help I’ afraid. But ChatGPT should do it :)
Yup, perfectly according to the book :) But hey, they are not unconnected! 3.5” disks with Protracker 1.1B and some ST-0x samples, fits right in I would say. And the flair, I leave it as an exercise for now :)
My studio space was actually a bit too ”lived in” to be able to film... The plant is just a basil plant I found in the kitchen, so wasn’t healthy for so long :)
Hehe, glad someone noticed! :) And they are positioned somewhat meaningful too! DFF0A2 (audio ch0 location) at "Sample start" and BFE001 (bit 1 disables filter) at "Cutoff".
@@tubesockor And I literally am just programming Amiga assembly for a week. I was in the “band camp” in the late 80s early 90s I ran PC and ST 🤫 but now I do admit that the Amiga was/is better even without the standard midi interface 😁
@@tubesockor Aaah nice! It was about the low pass filter being switchable. The book said it was introduced to filter out some of the aliasing. Now aliasing as I said in another video I did about Covix DACs is the sound of the 80s. So when I will implement my ptplayer I’m sure to switch but 1 off 🤣
I haven’t A/B:ed but there is big differences in interpolation method, and frequency response between Amiga and Model:Samples. M:S is more high fidelity in those areas and Amiga also has a lowpass filter on the outputs. So some high frequency content will sound a lot different. But I wouldn’t say the end result is that far off :)
I think this video really proves how underrated this little box is :3
Yeah, it can do quite a lot of things for its size and price!
Just got one. It’s excellent
I'm really happy I got one of these! I do want to get a polyend tracker tho as well xD
@@sheepkillindog what do you think of it now? Is it still in rotation?
You make the world a better place with this kind of content! Thank you!
Oh, thanks! :)
I don't know why but this hyped me a lot.
Great! :)
Congratulations man, this is amazing ! Bravooo.
Thanks! Happy you liked it!
This is a really cool concept for a video!
just realized, it's the same color as machines of that era
Yes, even though most of them have yellowed quite a bit since then :)
@@tubesockor this one will become yellowish over time too...
This is nothing less than absolutely brilliant and amazingly astounding!!!!! Way ta go!!! Excellent work!!! Keep it up man!!! Astonishing!
Hehe, glad you liked it!
Never heard it back in the day so it's a new song to me... WOW! Love it and I just heard it for the first time today, had to play it again!
Thanks! Agree, it is a great tune - and only four tracks/voices used!
fantastic WELL DONE!!
oooh those good old amiga days i had so much fun with the amiga 500+ AND 1200 octamed is where it all started for me trying to make some tunes
and the demoscene was great with cool graphics and music those days where golden
Thanks a lot! Yes, sweet memories from these golden days :) I have a few other tracker songs on my channels that I made back in the days - quite recently filmed from the good old unit I had on the attic...
Just goes to show you the amount of talent and work that went into these songs back in the day. This was really well done! I wish devices like this had the ability to consolidate tracks automatically. Would make the process of creation in this style much easier.
Thanks! Yes, having limitations forces people to go the extra mile :) A ”compress/merge-down-with-sample-locks”-feature would be nice, but one part of the puzzle/fun is to actually see where you have free slots and come up with things that fit.
tubesockor indeed. That was definitely easier when you're using a tracker because you can see the gaps across the tracks. Also, just picked up my Model:Samples tonight! I'll let you know when I've ported Space Debris over 😁
Cool!
4:11 Hahaha that was awesome. Good job on the track, it really brightened my day!
Hehe, thanks! The finger dancers are always happy to bring some joy :)
Really nice!
This is song is a great part of my childhood :)
Thanks! Same here :)
If The Cure were a disco group, this is what it would sound like.
Haha, not sure about that but hey why not :)
You know what, I can kind of see it, especially The Cure's more playful, less post rock stuff.
the first thing that came to my mind was Low-Life era New Order though
It has the high low disco bass they used on “a walk”. Some parts of the melody even seem the same too. Good ear there mate!
That’s incredibly astute. In a perfect world Robert Smith would randomly stumble upon this thread and throw some lyrics out.
Good work!
Haha, this is great! ST-01: & ST-02
Lovely that you liked it, thanks! Yes, ST-01 and 02 is firmly placed in many peoples audio memory, mine included :)
I had the 500+ and 2binbags full of X copied discs happy days
A great computer! Yup, mine are also still around. Possibly some of the X copied discs are no longer readable I'm afraid...
Superb work ! Congrats !!
Thank you!
Absolutely brilliant! Thanks for posting this video. Greetings from Toronto, Canada.
Thanks a lot, Wizetek!
Dude this is so cool!! Thank you very much for sharing. I like that your version has a few unique quirks to it as well. Really clever stuff.
Thanks! It was fun to make!
@@tubesockor I really love the stuff towards the end where you are experimenting! Would absolutely love to hear you do your own take/version of crystal hammer sometime. Keep up the good work!
Yep, things like that was not possible on the old Amiga :) We’ll see what kind of stuff will appear in the future!
Loved this soundtrack :P
A classic one!
This was dope bro. Nice one.
Thanks, Daniyal!
This is fantastic! Been waiting for someone to do something like this.
Great that you liked it - thanks!
tubesockor it's unreal what these machines are capable of. Showing people how trackers worked, then how those concepts can be applied here, is very cool.
It was fun as well! And only four channels, so two of them are taking a break here :)
Klara italo disco-vibbar. Great job!
Tackar, Jonas!
What an awesome track!!
Thanks!
Dude, this sounds perfect. Well done!~
Thanks a lot!
This was fantastic! You surely have a Polyend Tracker by now, right? This would surely have been much easier. Thank you for this!
Thanks! I have tried the Polyend Tracker as well and liked it, but it kind of was a bit almost ”too good” with all the channels, reverb send etc. I like to either have constrained limitations - or go full DAW with all that is available.
Wow, great idea, thanks for sharing
Great that you liked it!
Thanks a lot, more from amiga mods please
We'll see! :)
Very impressive! Thanks for sharing. I love your PO videos. Peace \/.
Thanks a lot, happy you like them!
Amazing!
love it! this is marvellous :D
Great; thanks!
Fantastic!!!
Thanks!
Okay, yes. This made my heart happy.
Made me happy to hear that! :)
When the Amiga flatlines, jumpstart it with a Crystal Hammer.
Yep, just do it :)
Always wanted to do the same, i think digitakt or model sample are hardware protrackers 👍
Agreed! I have an Octatrack and have always thought of it as a tracker in a box haha.
I’ll try the same with the synthstrom deluge. I will try with the Hybris theme...
Yes, it is a very tracker-like experience! With live controls :)
Nice! Also thx to Obarski!
Thanks! Yes, fully agree - has anyone seen him around? :)
Well done!! Jättefint jobbat - vilka minnen. Tack! /linus
Tackar! Ja, när jag hörde låten häromdagen så blev minnena så starka att jag helt enkelt var tvungen att göra detta :)
Makes me smile
Perfect :)
OMG. I need to try this! Cool idea. Now sample some sid tunes 🤪
Oh, doing SID tunes with a sample based instrument is a different ball game :)
Super fun! Care to share those samples you prepared? I would love to play with them!
Yes, it was fun to make it! I don’t think I saved the samples though, but it is pretty easy to do - just follow the instructions and the exact parameters written.
I’ve been working with mod files since they early 1990s, and I think you put a lot more work into this project than you needed to. I do have to compliment your effort though, the finished product is excellent.
I believe every tracker I’ve used for as far back as I can remember allows you to extract the samples from the song file. It would have probably been a lot less trouble than seeking out the original samples from an archive. You said you then had to recreate every pattern, event by event. Did you try using a tool like mod2midi to convert the the patterns to a midi sequence? It may not have carried over everything, but the notes for each part would be set to a different midi channel.
Thanks, happy you liked it! But hehe, ”making things a little more complicated that they need to” is basically the theme of this channel :) Checkout my Warhawk on TI-82 for instance. If I wanted to be practical in music making I would just use Logic :D
I’m well aware of the different methods (also made music on my trusty A500 since I got it back in 87), but here I first wanted to try to see how the ST-01 disk would sound. Making a song was just a fun way of trying it out. Using some kind of mod2midi tool in between would most likely miss some information, and I wanted a 1:1 representation of things. It was actually not so much work to do this after all. And not to forget, had fun in the process:)
Go, Amiga, Goooooo!
Yay!
Impressive work! Could you do the same with a Digitakt or Analog Rytm MkII sample engine?
Thanks! The sound engine in the Cycles is very different from a sample dito, so the exact same thing can’t be done. But of course, a version with something similar - or even more complex could be done.
LOL, 'CBM' did you grab that on your way out of Commodore? This thing is so much better than an 808
There are more Commodore hints on it, can you find them? :)
Great, I remember it quiet differently ;-) (I mean pattern sequence) but excellent job!
I'm pretty sure the pattern sequence is the correct one - well, at least that was the intention :) And thanks!
@@tubesockor Could be my old memory haha. I really enjoy this video! Reminds me my love A500+
How can i convert 8bit to 16bit 48khz? Which program can do it? Thanks
At about 2:08 in the video I actually show exactly which programs and arguments I used. Pause it and take a look! And if you still have questions after that, just let me know!
good ! nice sound . ARIGATO🦕
Thanks!
oh shit!
I think I'll take that as a positive comment, so - thanks :)
I had crystal hammer with the red sector cracktro (which ironically used another Obarski tune, amegas) and when I got my A500 in 1988 was so impressed from the quality of the music, almost a record level for me!
This machine look funny, and reproduction is excellent, just that the 8bit to 16 bit conversion of samples lost a bit of the crispness of paula
Yes, back then there weren’t many tracker musicians so Obarski's material was much of what was available :) Got my own A500 back in 87 and I also remember Amegas as one of the classic tunes.
I only naively converted the raw samples and let the M:S do the rest of the work so the interpolation/pitch shifting is quite different. Thereby no aliasing and fixed filter effects of Paula :)
@@tubesockor earlier tracker music might be more suitable due to the lack of effects like volume, pitch and other ones
Yup! Even though a lot of them can be emulated on the Elektron sequencer with parameter locks, some can’t - like quick chord arps etc.
Great! I have the m:s! Love your video! Could you share the samples?
Thanks! Sure, DM me on twitter and we'll arrange it!
Would love these samples also! Are they wav files? Wouldn't mind throwing a few $ your way. 🙌🏻🙌🏻☑️☑️👾👾🎹🎹💾💾
C S, Yep they are WAVs! No problems to send them to you - DM me on Twitter and we fix it!
Nice! Brings back memories! Is there no way of linking patterns into a song or do you manually have to activate them?
Thanks! It doesn't have a song mode per se, but you can chain patterns in one chain. So I could have done that here, but it was more fun to change them actively :)
ST-01 4 LIFE
Yay!
Fantastic! :-D
Thanks!
My thought was that Crystal Castles must have been hugely influenced by this kind of music.
Yes, I think tracker music is a common base for many electronic musicians of today!
@@tubesockor Former FT2 (and sometimes current - Renoise) tracker here - can confirm. (;
Hi, can i have the sysex of this pearl ? I've got all Amiga disk on my Model Sampler.
Ah, sorry - I don’t have it stored in the device anymore and don’t always save everything... Might have a backup somewhere though, will see if I can find it.
WOW! nice
Yay!
how did you convert those samples. sounds great!
Thanks! The instructions for converting is actually right there - just watch closely from about 2:09 to 2:25 :)
Could the Amiga accept MIDI input?
Sure, with a MIDI-interface connected it becomes a powerful sequencer.
WoW
Using the tech of today, we have recreated tge results of a 35 year old computer and tracker software! 😅
Hehe, I thought you made a miscalculation first but it is surely true :)
❤️🦑
how do I use the script tho
If you have a mac or a linux computer, make sure to install ”sox” and then just pause the video and copy the script as showed :) Let me know if you need help with it.
@@tubesockor I'm on Win 🥺🥺
@croay Shouldn’t be hard. Check the screen at 2:21 and I’m sure there is a very similar way in Windows batch file / powershell etc. I don’t have a Win computer anymore so can’t help I’ afraid. But ChatGPT should do it :)
Wood desk, plant, scattered unconnected items and one piece of flare, device framed in the safe zone. 1up.
Yup, perfectly according to the book :) But hey, they are not unconnected! 3.5” disks with Protracker 1.1B and some ST-0x samples, fits right in I would say. And the flair, I leave it as an exercise for now :)
@@tubesockor I like the scattered studio look myself, the "lived in" look. Makes you wonder, does everyone have healthy plants:)
My studio space was actually a bit too ”lived in” to be able to film... The plant is just a basil plant I found in the kitchen, so wasn’t healthy for so long :)
Those stickers lol 😂 dff0a2 audio channel 0 ctl. And bfe001 as the cia control mouse click/fire button when you btst bit 6
Hehe, glad someone noticed! :) And they are positioned somewhat meaningful too! DFF0A2 (audio ch0 location) at "Sample start" and BFE001 (bit 1 disables filter) at "Cutoff".
@@tubesockor And I literally am just programming Amiga assembly for a week. I was in the “band camp” in the late 80s early 90s I ran PC and ST 🤫 but now I do admit that the Amiga was/is better even without the standard midi interface 😁
@@CallousCoder Oh yes, it totally killed them all :)
@@tubesockor Aaah nice! It was about the low pass filter being switchable. The book said it was introduced to filter out some of the aliasing. Now aliasing as I said in another video I did about Covix DACs is the sound of the 80s. So when I will implement my ptplayer I’m sure to switch but 1 off 🤣
I think hi-hat pitch note is higher than the original
I haven’t A/B:ed but there is big differences in interpolation method, and frequency response between Amiga and Model:Samples. M:S is more high fidelity in those areas and Amiga also has a lowpass filter on the outputs. So some high frequency content will sound a lot different. But I wouldn’t say the end result is that far off :)
For what it's worth, the transfer app will convert to 16-bit 48k automatically.
Yes, but not 8-bit raw files or 8SVX as far as I know :)
@@tubesockor excellent work!
Thanks, Todd!
Nice, somebody doing other things with it than play those boring preset "muzak" elevator techno tracks.
Thanks!
I think this thing is just gimmicky junk.