Fire was contained in the south & adjacent back walls, lower level south apartment. ... then, smoke (soot) damage in other areas. Check with the fire Marshall office to get copy of the original fire investigation & final report. Request copy of the photos. Those are retrievable in the 'archives' with the state fire Marshall.
The thing going thru the roof is a train order signal, it was to let trains they need to pick up orders. The dark sign would say railway express agency, and the cart is called a baggage wagon
That was a blast watching as you took a journey through time to piece together the history of the building. I saw the newspaper referring to Nixon and Kissinger. -- And grocery ads alongside the info of the building. - Oh if the walls could talk! (Maybe they did!)
Amazing find! The gable ends and brackets all blend when they should stand out as a historic feature. Painting the building white and painting the original gable ends/brackets black would make them pop and look amazing. The stairs should also be painted black and they would pop as well.
I remember when you 1st showed them when they were still vacant & roach infested . Looking slowly coming along & your right the workers are moving sliw pace should have gotten more progress done .
Great video! Interesting history. The contractor and you need to have a good talk, otherwise this project is going to cost more than necessary. Have a very Merry Christmas my friend!
If I was a contractor I would not like this place lol, its rough but it is what it is, the deeper you dig the more problems likely to find and you're digging right in, its good though you seem to have a knack for these challenging properties
Speaking of fire damage - now would be a great (and easy) time to install sprinklers. Then again being a commercial building the local building codes would probably be ridiculous. Also hope you are taking advantage of having it to the walls to get new phone/internet/cable TV to the units - you could probably really clean up that rats nest of wiring on the south side of the building.
Mark i shared a link for Max Venn who likely joined the 2 buildings. Hope youtube didn't erase the link. It did. Its easy to find usingbhis name and Ault, its his obituary talking about his building career.
You definitely have some fire damage from the Fire. Your best option is have all drywall removed and inspect the whole entire building for any additional fire damage that never got repaired.
I would have the crew finish 2 apartments top and bottom starting at one end. That way you can get a pretty good idea of the time and cost for the other 6 units. If you’re not satisfied with their work then get someone else for the other 6. Think about it, by just finishing one unit and then renting it, would you be happy with all that construction noise above or below you for months?
A family member was in USA and taken a photo of the train depot to send to Australia. Can we have the old prices on the grocery stores bring back in todays stores. The crew needs to forus on one level units then finish then do the top units.
I believe the old sign that you couldn't make out in the photo of the end of the building says "Railroad Express Agency." It was a package delivery business that was the UPS or FedX of the day.
Does look like a quite a bit of work has been completed. The black is soot, not direct fire damage. Some you're seeing is old water damage. South end upper level apt., the floors aren't wood floor boards. The sheeting for the floors is likely from loss of the original wood flooring removed because of the fire. (I'm a retired Multi Line Insurance Adjuster & flipped older properties)
You need to have all drywall removed!, I believe that you should gut the whole building and replace fire damages to framing and roof trusses, then start start rebuilding, I also would reconfigure the kitchen layout as to not crowd into the bathroom and bedroom
It going to be interesting to see this done. I'm not advocating for it but I am curious with how bad all the units were, the work the entire structure needs, the infestation, and the signs of a fire. how much of a cost difference is there from what this is going to be with your normal remodel work vs a full gut down to studs. And if had gone the full gut route could you potentially change the layout to get a greater return.
It would be cool to bring the exterior of the building back to what it originally looked like. With the extra space that's available in the attic, it's unfortunate it's not being utilized for the upper units.
Inquire at the local Fire Dept for a callout to the address regarding the potential of a second fire. The issue will likely be that only paper records are available. Check out the attic with a black (ultraviolet) light. Google will tell you what to do/look for. :)>
8 units. You should have a competition and have each of your contractors do 1 or 2 units. Make it a bit of a competition lol. In theory kinda funny IRL major head bumping lol
All I can really say is your contractors is sloppy?They don't clean up after themselves, and they leave their tools. That's a no- no in construction. As the owner, you have to keep the contractor in line. Have a weekly meetings with them. Let them know what your expectations are and they should be met. Stress to them the point that you want one apartment to be completed first.
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You can see my last video from 2 weeks ago here and how much work was done since then. ua-cam.com/video/8kEEzA3-x3M/v-deo.html
Fire was contained in the south & adjacent back walls, lower level south apartment. ... then, smoke (soot) damage in other areas.
Check with the fire Marshall office to get copy of the original fire investigation & final report. Request copy of the photos. Those are retrievable in the 'archives' with the state fire Marshall.
The thing going thru the roof is a train order signal, it was to let trains they need to pick up orders. The dark sign would say railway express agency, and the cart is called a baggage wagon
History is so fascinating! 🤗
That was a blast watching as you took a journey through time to piece together the history of the building. I saw the newspaper referring to Nixon and Kissinger. -- And grocery ads alongside the info of the building. - Oh if the walls could talk! (Maybe they did!)
PS. You were right all along!
You should name it "The Depot Apts".
Painted framing is a sign of smoke damage repair. Smoke gets into the wood. Painting the wood will seal the surface to greatly reduce the smoke smell.
I think you are right.
Amazing find!
The gable ends and brackets all blend when they should stand out as a historic feature. Painting the building white and painting the original gable ends/brackets black would make them pop and look amazing. The stairs should also be painted black and they would pop as well.
The second floor apartments could become two bedroom units if lofts could be created in the empty attic space.
I remember when you 1st showed them when they were still vacant & roach infested . Looking slowly coming along & your right the workers are moving sliw pace should have gotten more progress done .
7:03 good prices on pineapple 😄
Right? 😂
haha
Great video! Interesting history. The contractor and you need to have a good talk, otherwise this project is going
to cost more than necessary. Have a very Merry Christmas my friend!
Thanks you too!
Awesome! So glad that you found the newspaper clippings.
It was pretty cool
If I was a contractor I would not like this place lol, its rough but it is what it is, the deeper you dig the more problems likely to find and you're digging right in, its good though you seem to have a knack for these challenging properties
He needs his A Team on this place
Speaking of fire damage - now would be a great (and easy) time to install sprinklers. Then again being a commercial building the local building codes would probably be ridiculous.
Also hope you are taking advantage of having it to the walls to get new phone/internet/cable TV to the units - you could probably really clean up that rats nest of wiring on the south side of the building.
The white is most likley kills to cover the smoke damage to get rid of smoke smell the outside needs a paint job what color you guys thinking
Yeah butterscotch palace needs to go!
The AMC Gremlin in the background cracked me up.
:)
Mark i shared a link for Max Venn who likely joined the 2 buildings. Hope youtube didn't erase the link. It did. Its easy to find usingbhis name and Ault, its his obituary talking about his building career.
I saw that!
You definitely have some fire damage from the Fire. Your best option is have all drywall removed and inspect the whole entire building for any additional fire damage that never got repaired.
I would have the crew finish 2 apartments top and bottom starting at one end. That way you can get a pretty good idea of the time and cost for the other 6 units. If you’re not satisfied with their work then get someone else for the other 6. Think about it, by just finishing one unit and then renting it, would you be happy with all that construction noise above or below you for months?
Cool news paper clips
very cool but Dam that building is rough your going to have to strip alot/clean it up.
I think the sign on the end of the building says "Railway Express Agency". Very interesting history of that in a Wikepedia article by that name.
cool
A family member was in USA and taken a photo of the train depot to send to Australia. Can we have the old prices on the grocery stores bring back in todays stores. The crew needs to forus on one level units then finish then do the top units.
If you want old grocery prices be prepared for old wages too
I believe the old sign that you couldn't make out in the photo of the end of the building says "Railroad Express Agency." It was a package delivery business that was the UPS or FedX of the day.
Good call 🚂
The article with the fire in the 70’s also says it was a 6 unit apartment building!
It was wrong I think. Most articles in papers I see tend to have some wrong facts lol. The article about it being moved said it was an 8 unit
Mark, why is there an empty space behind some of the bathrooms? It looks like a little room, or is that a part of another unit?
Cool history find. Id add some of the original outside decor and apply for a historical building placard.
Black and gray shades in the attic is from smoke, leaving soot. Appears some roofing joists were replaced.
Does look like a quite a bit of work has been completed.
The black is soot, not direct fire damage. Some you're seeing is old water damage.
South end upper level apt., the floors aren't wood floor boards. The sheeting for the floors is likely from loss of the original wood flooring removed because of the fire.
(I'm a retired Multi Line Insurance Adjuster & flipped older properties)
You need to have all drywall removed!, I believe that you should gut the whole building and replace fire damages to framing and roof trusses, then start start rebuilding, I also would reconfigure the kitchen layout as to not crowd into the bathroom and bedroom
15:16 all the walls and ceiling must be "fire loaded" with 5/8 X sheet rock...
It going to be interesting to see this done.
I'm not advocating for it but I am curious with how bad all the units were, the work the entire structure needs, the infestation, and the signs of a fire. how much of a cost difference is there from what this is going to be with your normal remodel work vs a full gut down to studs. And if had gone the full gut route could you potentially change the layout to get a greater return.
Train Depot 💯 confirmed 👌 😎
It totally is!
I believe the sign under Ault is a sign for the Railway Express Agency.
thanks
you betcha
5:20: The one article referred to it as the "Max Venn Apartments". Any idea yet as to who Max Venn was?
He was born on Oklahoma. Eventually moved to Ault Colarado, A builder by trade, but we'll known for creative repairs to buildings and structures.
It would be cool to bring the exterior of the building back to what it originally looked like.
With the extra space that's available in the attic, it's unfortunate it's not being utilized for the upper units.
Yes, there were doubts, but it's cool the true history came out.
Tried to post this part in my main comment, but it wouldn't let me.
I wonder if the little sign says Union station after looking at some other pictures.
Have those low voltage guys run all new coax to each unit for xfinity.
Inquire at the local Fire Dept for a callout to the address regarding the potential of a second fire. The issue will likely be that only paper records are available. Check out the attic with a black (ultraviolet) light. Google will tell you what to do/look for. :)>
8 units. You should have a competition and have each of your contractors do 1 or 2 units. Make it a bit of a competition lol. In theory kinda funny IRL major head bumping lol
The problem there is my other guys are busy on other projects
@ gotcha gotcha. Best of luck with the remodel, happy holidays!
Those poor construction guys
This fire might explain why the floor was different in one or two apartments.
All I can really say is your contractors is sloppy?They don't clean up after themselves, and they leave their tools. That's a no- no in construction. As the owner, you have to keep the contractor in line. Have a weekly meetings with them. Let them know what your expectations are and they should be met. Stress to them the point that you want one apartment to be completed first.
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Being an old building, this didn't turn out to be the "Quick-Flip" you thought is was gonna be.
The History of the building is cool thou.
I never thought this would be a quick flip
Fire was in boiler room
Wassup
The site is a mess, that's an indication of poor work.
Stuff everywhere
Making lemonade out of lemons??