Depends on the bags but a lot of carpet materials speed up with moisture. It also depends on how humid. As the boards start to get sticky, the carpet slows way down. Once the humidity gets to the point that the boards start to get a little damp, the carpet material speeds up. Ultra had a video out showing the Widow-R on humid boards. I can't seem to find it now. If I come across I'll share the link for you.
Now that all the different viper r's have been out a while.... they play very different... i have the 2nd release white red.... been playing with a friends green ones and the green is not as floppy and a lot faster
I can't speak directly about the different Viper Rs because I haven't throw too many of them. Ultra claims there is no difference in the different colored bags. From my experience, no two sets of bags will play exactly the same. There are so many variables that go into how the bags play. That Viper R carpet can be manipulated to play fast or slow. If you rough it up, it will slow way down. If you keep it smooth, it will play faster. My Viper Rs played really slow but that was because I threw them outside on concrete. That concrete really roughed up the carpet and caused it to slow down. If I used a fabric shaver on it to clean up the fuzz, it would speed up.
Hey Mike, I know this is an old video but are you going to be reviewing the new Viper RS soon? I've done decent with my Titan Thrashers but nobody in my rec league seems to like those bags, and my boards are too slow for them so I'm thinking I need faster bags. Curious what your thoughts are. Thanks for the great videos!
Mik, I'm just starting out. What would you recommend for a beginner. I'm having trouwith having a flat bag. I'm watching your videos on that subject. Just looking for a bag.
I would recommend finding a local league or event. A blind draw would be perfect because you can throw you partners bags. Throwing bags is the best way to find out if you like them or not. It's all about what you like. Just because I like a bag doesn't mean that you will too. You have to find the bags that fit your preferences and throw.
I have reviewed the Costellos. I want to review some of the others, but I need to get my hands on the new 23 stamped bags first. Hopefully, more in the coming months.
They are on my list of bags to review but I do not own a set at the moment. I will have to purchase some to review once I get done reviewing the bags that I currently have.
I was thinking the same thing about the fuzz on the carpet side of the Viper-Rs. Mine have definitely slowed down a good amount since I first got them.
The Viking slow side is going to play a touch slower. I find the Viking is easier to cut and roll because it's a fuller, less floppy bag. The Viper R is slightly more hole friendly. The Vioer R is better if you are just looking to slide bags in the hole with the occasional block. If you want to play a dirty style game with cuts and rolls, go with the Viking.
I like these a little more than the Viper Bs. Speeds are similar between the two but I like the slow side material of the Rs better than the Bs. IMO, the slow side of these is slower than the Fallout X or Sorcerer. It would depend on what speed you are looking for and the conditions you are playing on. On faster boards, I would rather have the Rs but on slower boards give me the Fallout X or Sorcerer.
Not that I'm aware of. That's a very unique carpet. However, the new ACL year started Aug 1st. Bag companies had to stop selling the 2021-2022 stamped bags. They are coming out with the 2023 stamped bags now. I expect that Ultra will be adding some to their inventory soon.
Just got these bags and first time ever getting bags other then wal-mart bags,Hoping to improve and hoping they will help.Any pointers on wish other bags to get for a begginer?
After you throw these, you'll get an idea of whether you want a slower bag or faster bag. Once you figure out what speeds you like, then that will help in choosing the next bag. Reynolds, Local Bags, Swag Bags and All Cornhole make great bags for a great price. They make is easier for you to buy a couple different sets to see what you like. The Typhoon and All Slides 2.0 are both great all around bags. They are bags that you can use as a beginner and continue to use as you improve.
I recently bought a set of Widow R's and wondering how the Viper R's compare to them. I have a new set of BG Vikings as well that seem to be too slow for me so concerned with a slower slow side than what the Widow R's have.
I have not tried the Widow-R yet. I'm fairly certain that the slow side is the same as the Viper-R. The fast side is the only difference between the bags. If you like the Vikings but want a faster bag, check out the BG Wizards. Another option is the Fallout X by Buffalo Boards. I'm in the process of reviewing them now. I should have a video up in a couple weeks.
@@robertcarper5572 the viper R are definitely more hole friendly and grab the hole a lot better to spin in. I been throwing widow R and they just have no grab around the hole for me and they are broken in. Viper R are barely slightly bigger and I feel that extra little size grabs the hole real good
The carpet side is different on the two. The Fallout X is a much faster material. The Viper Rs have a stickier slow side. Your looking at a slow side speed of 6 for the Fallout X and 4 for the Viper R. They both have a similar template size and flop. Fast sides are the same also. If you like a faster bag, go with the Fallout X.
The fast side is the same but the slow side on these is a little slower than the Fallout X. These play at a speed of 4/9 and the Fallout is a 6/9. Both are about the same template and floppiness.
Interesting to hear that the carpet side does well in humid conditions. I prefer carpet bags and they always slow down for me when it gets humid.
Depends on the bags but a lot of carpet materials speed up with moisture. It also depends on how humid. As the boards start to get sticky, the carpet slows way down. Once the humidity gets to the point that the boards start to get a little damp, the carpet material speeds up. Ultra had a video out showing the Widow-R on humid boards. I can't seem to find it now. If I come across I'll share the link for you.
@@MikesBags ua-cam.com/video/aGA0c61onYo/v-deo.html
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Now that all the different viper r's have been out a while.... they play very different... i have the 2nd release white red.... been playing with a friends green ones and the green is not as floppy and a lot faster
I can't speak directly about the different Viper Rs because I haven't throw too many of them. Ultra claims there is no difference in the different colored bags. From my experience, no two sets of bags will play exactly the same. There are so many variables that go into how the bags play. That Viper R carpet can be manipulated to play fast or slow. If you rough it up, it will slow way down. If you keep it smooth, it will play faster. My Viper Rs played really slow but that was because I threw them outside on concrete. That concrete really roughed up the carpet and caused it to slow down. If I used a fabric shaver on it to clean up the fuzz, it would speed up.
Hey Mike, I know this is an old video but are you going to be reviewing the new Viper RS soon? I've done decent with my Titan Thrashers but nobody in my rec league seems to like those bags, and my boards are too slow for them so I'm thinking I need faster bags. Curious what your thoughts are. Thanks for the great videos!
Love all the reviews!
Thanks!
Have you ever thrown Razor Podiums? The materials seem identical, but not such a demand... Yet. I'd love to see some reviews of their series of bags.
I have not thrown any Razor bags. I will have to look into them.
Great review brother! Have you heard any changes to this bag I just ordered the 2024 stamped today of the ultra site can’t wait to throw them!
I'm not aware of any changes.
Mik, I'm just starting out. What would you recommend for a beginner. I'm having trouwith having a flat bag. I'm watching your videos on that subject. Just looking for a bag.
I would recommend finding a local league or event. A blind draw would be perfect because you can throw you partners bags. Throwing bags is the best way to find out if you like them or not. It's all about what you like. Just because I like a bag doesn't mean that you will too. You have to find the bags that fit your preferences and throw.
Hey Mike, can you do some reviews on black sheep’s ? Thanks for all the great content
I have reviewed the Costellos. I want to review some of the others, but I need to get my hands on the new 23 stamped bags first. Hopefully, more in the coming months.
WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THOSE VIPER-R BLUE BAGS! AWSOME COLOR COMBO!!!
A Vapor R review would be nice as well.
They are on my list of bags to review but I do not own a set at the moment. I will have to purchase some to review once I get done reviewing the bags that I currently have.
@@MikesBags review the new psycho rs
Review the plain viper please!
I have plans to review it soon. I have to since I've reviewed all the other vipers.
Can't find these no more....bummer
The Logic Prism and NFQ Awol are better bags (same materials with less flop) and both are available.
@@MikesBags I'll check them out. Thanks
I have reviews on my channel for both of those bags.
@@MikesBags oh nice! I'll check them out
Can you do a vapor R review as well?
I do not have a set of Vapor Rs. I do plan on doing a review of them at some point.
I was thinking the same thing about the fuzz on the carpet side of the Viper-Rs. Mine have definitely slowed down a good amount since I first got them.
Mine is playing close to a 4 now. I haven't tried shaving off the fuzz yet because I like the way it plays at the slower speed.
@@MikesBags same here. Loving the slower speed on these bags. Going to pull out the Vipers for those slower boards.
Great content as always, Mike!
How would you compare the slow side to BG Vikings?
More or less dynamic?
The Viking slow side is going to play a touch slower. I find the Viking is easier to cut and roll because it's a fuller, less floppy bag. The Viper R is slightly more hole friendly. The Vioer R is better if you are just looking to slide bags in the hole with the occasional block. If you want to play a dirty style game with cuts and rolls, go with the Viking.
How do these line up against Viper Bs? Also what's your thoughts between these, fallout x and bg sorcerers? Great videos!
I like these a little more than the Viper Bs. Speeds are similar between the two but I like the slow side material of the Rs better than the Bs. IMO, the slow side of these is slower than the Fallout X or Sorcerer. It would depend on what speed you are looking for and the conditions you are playing on. On faster boards, I would rather have the Rs but on slower boards give me the Fallout X or Sorcerer.
Are there any bags similar to these you would recommend? Played a blind draw with these and loved them but can't even find them used right now.
Not that I'm aware of. That's a very unique carpet. However, the new ACL year started Aug 1st. Bag companies had to stop selling the 2021-2022 stamped bags. They are coming out with the 2023 stamped bags now. I expect that Ultra will be adding some to their inventory soon.
Good review where do you order most of your bags from
I typically order directly from the company. I picked these up when they did a release of them. I occasionally trade bags on Facebook.
Just got these bags and first time ever getting bags other then wal-mart bags,Hoping to improve and hoping they will help.Any pointers on wish other bags to get for a begginer?
After you throw these, you'll get an idea of whether you want a slower bag or faster bag. Once you figure out what speeds you like, then that will help in choosing the next bag. Reynolds, Local Bags, Swag Bags and All Cornhole make great bags for a great price. They make is easier for you to buy a couple different sets to see what you like.
The Typhoon and All Slides 2.0 are both great all around bags. They are bags that you can use as a beginner and continue to use as you improve.
@@MikesBags Thank u so much I really appreciate
I recently bought a set of Widow R's and wondering how the Viper R's compare to them.
I have a new set of BG Vikings as well that seem to be too slow for me so concerned with a slower slow side than what the Widow R's have.
I have not tried the Widow-R yet. I'm fairly certain that the slow side is the same as the Viper-R. The fast side is the only difference between the bags.
If you like the Vikings but want a faster bag, check out the BG Wizards. Another option is the Fallout X by Buffalo Boards. I'm in the process of reviewing them now. I should have a video up in a couple weeks.
@@MikesBags OK thank you!
@@robertcarper5572 the viper R are definitely more hole friendly and grab the hole a lot better to spin in. I been throwing widow R and they just have no grab around the hole for me and they are broken in. Viper R are barely slightly bigger and I feel that extra little size grabs the hole real good
@@TyWrecX Wonder why since the slow side is the same as the Widow R?
@@robertcarper5572 it’s the circumference of the bag
Has the slow side speed slowed with fuzzing?
Yes. They play like a 4 speed now.
Hey Mike, what BG bag would you say plays the closest to the ultra viper r?
BG doesn't have a bag like the Viper-R. BG doesn't even have a bag that uses a hybrid material.
Good to know. Thank you!
Carpet fuzz cleaner? Can you post a link?
I don't have a link but you can search it. They are called carpet fuzz removers or carpet shavers. They have manual and electric ones.
Has the carpet side slowed down since?
Yes it has. Depending on the boards, it's playing at 4-5 speed right now. It's almost identical to the Viper-B slow speed.
How do these compare to the Fallout X, play-ability wise?
Haven't thrown my R's yet but them B's are sticky.
The Rs are not a sticky as the Bs. I like the slow side of the Rs much better than the Bs.
@@MikesBags that's what I was thinking.
What's diff between r and rs?
Anyone know how these compare to the fallout x? I'm debating between these 2
The carpet side is different on the two. The Fallout X is a much faster material. The Viper Rs have a stickier slow side. Your looking at a slow side speed of 6 for the Fallout X and 4 for the Viper R. They both have a similar template size and flop. Fast sides are the same also. If you like a faster bag, go with the Fallout X.
How does these compare to the fallout x?
The fast side is the same but the slow side on these is a little slower than the Fallout X. These play at a speed of 4/9 and the Fallout is a 6/9. Both are about the same template and floppiness.
Still have these?
No, I traded them.
Could you do the cyclone by Reynolds
The Cyclones are on my list to review. Not sure when I'll get to them though.
cant get them viper bags as matter of fact cant get any vipers at all. so anytime your giving away vipers I will take... lol 🤣🤣
I have heard that Ultra will be releasing the 2023 Viper Rs soon. Keep an eye on their social media accounts.