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  • @kentmillerstudios
    @kentmillerstudios 5 років тому +59

    I just can't get past the bright spot in the center of the image. I know its water but for me. It draws all my attention.

    • @anniebooo
      @anniebooo 5 років тому +2

      Agree, me too.

    • @cbarnettcti123
      @cbarnettcti123 5 років тому

      Agreed. But what would you guys think of just cloning it out. Everything else Tom did was to bring out what he actually saw. But if he were to clone out the lake, that is too much in my opinion. It just goes too far.

    • @anniebooo
      @anniebooo 5 років тому

      Two ways to go here, depending on school of thought: Make it into 'fine art', clone it out that is. Or leave it as is and just decide its not the best composition... I think it is hard to see that it is an actual lake, first impression is that it is "noise".

    • @kentmillerstudios
      @kentmillerstudios 5 років тому +1

      @@anniebooo I think if you really want to keep the image its preference. I can keep the image with the lake. It's too much for me. I would have to remove it or scrap the shot. Again this is just my vision. Good thing about photography is you can like whatever you want. Personal taste is personal. It's his shot he can like it as it is.

    • @stuartschaffner9744
      @stuartschaffner9744 5 років тому +1

      This is a really interesting conversation thread. It goes to the heart of why we all do landscape photography in the first place. Personally I am an agnostic on whether people "should" alter their images for aesthetic reasons, as long as they are honest about it. Thomas is especially open about what he does to images and why, which is one of the reasons I am a loyal fan.
      In my opinion, the problem with the lake is that it is acting like a mirror in what is otherwise a well-composed image. About the only "natural" solution would be either to find a different vantage point or to come at a different time of year. I have often tried to tone down the surface of water, with varying success. Here I would make a high-precision mask for the reflective surface, starting with a luminosity mask and doing some careful hand feathering for the light coming through the trees. I might take shortcuts, but the easiest way to use such a mask is to add a layer group and attach the mask to the group. Within that group I would first add a layer to change the color of the surface from near-white to whatever I thought would be most natural. I would also add some ripples to break the surface up and provide texture. I would do this by hand, under high magnification, with a soft brush or pencil. Think carefully about what this surface would look like. It would darken near the shores. The smooth parts of the surface would mirror the gold of the sunlight and the ripples would have a hint of blue. A little goes a long way here. A skilled artist (not me) could do this with one or two strokes of an almost-dry brush. The layer group with one precision mask allows you to play as much as you want without worrying about boundaries.
      On a separate topic, there's also a lot of lens flare here all over the image, not just near the rising sun. That's just the way lenses work. I like the way Thomas has handled it. However, in a situation like this I would always use the best prime lens I could bring, even if I had to modify the overall composition to handle the focal length.

  • @pollux7961
    @pollux7961 5 років тому +6

    I haven't seen any other photographer in UA-cam being brutally honest with his work. Great job, makes me love your genuine content more and more. Keep it up!

  • @EduBroncano
    @EduBroncano 5 років тому +56

    Don't kill me, but for some reason (I guess simply personal taste) in some cases I do like the lens flare, and it is the case with this photo. Not always, but sometimes you can even play with it as a part of the composition. Just IMHO.

    • @shafayat1004
      @shafayat1004 5 років тому +11

      No need to be defensive about it. To me, it's a creative process /art. Upto you on what looks good.

    • @CarlBergsdorf
      @CarlBergsdorf 5 років тому +1

      @@shafayat1004 Well said

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому +3

      The beauty of it is it’s all subjective. He isn’t wrong and you aren’t too 🙌🏽

    • @francisschweitzer8431
      @francisschweitzer8431 5 років тому +1

      I feel the same ay as you

    • @paultaylor5513
      @paultaylor5513 5 років тому +1

      How dare you disagree with Tom. I think I'm gonna cry.

  • @antonoat
    @antonoat 5 років тому

    Proof that not all images can be made "in camera" photoshop is an extremely helpful tool and shouldn't be slated like it is by some who don't necessarily understand what can be done when using it. Great demo and image Thomas.

  • @francisschweitzer8431
    @francisschweitzer8431 5 років тому +2

    Thomas, you are the Bob Ross of photography. Happy Little Hillsides.... lol.

  • @Vacublaster1
    @Vacublaster1 5 років тому +11

    Tom, "I'm back and Clean Shaven", I'm afraid your mirror is broken.

  • @robertwhitemoto
    @robertwhitemoto 5 років тому

    Beautiful final product Tom. A much needed diversion on my Sunday here across the pond. I can’t wait to try my first exposure stack... for that matter the focus stack too.

  • @wineguy68
    @wineguy68 5 років тому +10

    Lovely, as you say it, image, but I notice my eyes go to the reflected lake in the middle of the image. I was kind of surprised you didn't bring that up in the video, but you were so all over the lens flare. Also, my pre-order is in for the Calendar!

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому

      Wade Shanley good eye! Maybe that’s where he wanted our eyes to go?

  • @gustaff.weldon
    @gustaff.weldon 5 років тому +19

    I like the photo, but that very bright lake in upper half is drawing my attention too much, plus it is quite rugged while the rest of the sceene is smooth :) I'm surprised this did not annoy you ;)

    • @CarlBergsdorf
      @CarlBergsdorf 5 років тому +4

      I was thinking the same thing during the entire video, I would most likely have edited that away since I felt it was distracting and somewhat unclear what it was when first viewing the image.

    • @gbee8888
      @gbee8888 5 років тому

      Carl Bergsdorf I guess on a large print it would be more apparent what it is.

    • @carolynwilding1116
      @carolynwilding1116 5 років тому

      @@gbee8888 Yes, I agree. That lake just took all my attention from the rest of the image. Kept waiting for it to be cloned out.

    • @jagodabrie411
      @jagodabrie411 5 років тому +1

      Next video from Thomas "People Unhappy With My Photo Edit" - clones out the lake :D

  • @jooncha
    @jooncha 5 років тому

    Another fine video as usual Thomas, a quick tip is to press the DOF preview button before taking the picture as this will simulate any lens flare when stopped down at taking aperture.

  • @lepkoDE
    @lepkoDE 5 років тому +1

    To create a black layer mask, you can just hold down the option key when clicking on the icon.

  • @anvilcloud
    @anvilcloud 5 років тому

    I just ran into a lens flare issue today, but I didn’t realize it until I got home. However, It does give me hope that these things don’t just happen to me. The difference is that you had a plan ahead of time.

  • @nobody79ify
    @nobody79ify 5 років тому

    Learning loads watching your new editing style with the tablet. It's definitely helping me. Thanks for sharing :)

  • @as616
    @as616 5 років тому

    It was informative to see your dilemma and how you resolved it. Thanks

  • @smileymark13
    @smileymark13 5 років тому

    Great tutorial on post photo editing Tom. It helps me out as I often struggle with editing my photos as I tend to be too hard on myself and keep changing / tinkering to get the picture I want. It’s true what you say fresh eyes do help improve and if your not 100% happy then keep modifying till you get it. Cheers

  • @karlthefirst8690
    @karlthefirst8690 5 років тому

    Thanks Tom! You just helped me figure out what to do with a vertical panorama that Lightroom has been screwing up every time I try to use its pano merge tool. Gotta go to Photoshop and stitch it by hand. Do you ever use an auto-merge for bracketed exposures in LR or Camera Raw? Or do you always do your edits first and then open as layers in PS to handle it manually?

  • @rasesh4u
    @rasesh4u 5 років тому +7

    Very impressed by your post processing workflow. Very helpful for beginners. Like your honesty.

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому

      Rasesh Patel less is definitely more! 🙌🏽

    • @allisonbaum1014
      @allisonbaum1014 5 років тому

      STFU stop being a kiss ass!

  • @jimgraves4197
    @jimgraves4197 5 років тому +1

    This teaches me "don't rush your editing, take your time and you will get the result you are looking for." Cheers Thomas.

  • @michaelbottari6398
    @michaelbottari6398 5 років тому

    I enjoy alls your videos and your very good and impressive images. I like the kind you take your images on location. You take the image at place and not in the editing at at home. Editing it's only the last gentle kick in your work. Great...

  • @vanessalees2812
    @vanessalees2812 5 років тому

    I'm really enjoying the photo editing videos. Keep them coming.

  • @adrianalfordphotography
    @adrianalfordphotography 5 років тому +5

    Nice work Thomas, image turned out quite nice after the post work. Thanks for sharing the video 👍🙏

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому

      Adrian Alford Photography rarely lets me down with his images!

  • @markattardo
    @markattardo 5 років тому

    I tried to block the sun like this after your other video when you used a case to block it. I ended up with flare like you did here and put the edit on hold. Glad you posted this!

  • @alberttorrassalvans2226
    @alberttorrassalvans2226 5 років тому

    Fantastic work !! Thank you Thomas

  • @shenaluke
    @shenaluke 5 років тому

    They are both really great photos. Great job.

  • @dreamcatcher3622
    @dreamcatcher3622 5 років тому +41

    I am always impressed by how little post work you do. The genre is far too full of over processed, unrealistic images - I love how yours buck the trend.

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому +3

      dream catcher he gets the fundamentals down really well in camera 🙌🏽

    • @ChrisRoutledge
      @ChrisRoutledge 5 років тому +1

      Merging four images into one and changing the shape of a hill is not much post work now? Interesting times. I'd say this is heavily post-processed. He's done it well though, which is the difference.

    • @dreamcatcher3622
      @dreamcatcher3622 5 років тому +1

      @@ChrisRoutledge Relatively speaking no, it is not much. When a majority of landscape photographers talk about spending hours in post, and we see the daily flood of grossly over edited work that is currently popular on the internet.

    • @ChrisRoutledge
      @ChrisRoutledge 5 років тому

      @@dreamcatcher3622 Funny how what's considered minimal changes though, isn't it? Ten, or even five years ago this level of post processing would have been considered very significant. Fifteen or so years ago digital photography itself was cheating.

    • @dreamcatcher3622
      @dreamcatcher3622 5 років тому +2

      @@ChrisRoutledge Five years ago this level of processing would not have been considered a lot. Not even ten years ago - the dawn of the HDR craze.
      This really is minimal even compared to the level of retouching Ansel Adams carried out on his prints.

  • @CarolyneMacMillan
    @CarolyneMacMillan 5 років тому

    Great video as usual, always enjoy watching them. I've ordered my calendar from down in New Zealand. :)

  • @allansisson355
    @allansisson355 4 роки тому

    Wow, very impressed, as always.

  • @Hirsutechin
    @Hirsutechin 5 років тому

    I thought your version 1 in the previous video was too HDR-like, wow what recovered shadows, etc. Version 2 is much more like it, I like that. And more to come from the Cascades? Bring it on!

  • @swirly_magnolia
    @swirly_magnolia 5 років тому

    Cool, would never have thought to literally hide the sun. ill try it out. Great final edit.

  • @PMCN53
    @PMCN53 5 років тому

    Thanks for sharing your great technique in blending a difficult image composition. Cheers!

  • @ronnychristianwiik
    @ronnychristianwiik 5 років тому

    Great video; liked the pace. Good looking calendar.

  • @martinjplant
    @martinjplant 5 років тому

    For a black layer mask, add mask then CMD-I to invert, saves a few seconds but they all add up.

  • @derekmidgley
    @derekmidgley 5 років тому

    Magnificent!

  • @danfox2575
    @danfox2575 5 років тому

    I had a feeling when I saw your last video that you were in my backyard. Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @1976vikin
    @1976vikin 5 років тому

    Been watching your videos for over a year now, and yourself with a few other UA-camrs has inspired me to get back into landscape photography again after many years away from it. But a question or two, why do you still use grad filters? I understand and used them many years ago with film as we didn't have all these fantastic computer programs we have now. But with modern techniques, like you've just shown why stick a potentially dusty/scratched piece of glass/perspex in front of an expensive lens when you can blend exposures? I get the reasoning behind the ND and polarizing filters, and the odd occasion were there's only time for one shot, but unless I am missing something exposure blending should give similar or better results most of the time.

  • @DWebbmedia
    @DWebbmedia 5 років тому

    Me too !! I’m sat staring at my Mac while the spinny circle of doom taunts me !

  • @mrcassioo
    @mrcassioo 5 років тому

    I learnt a lot! Thank you Thomas.

  • @DavidVYoutube
    @DavidVYoutube 5 років тому

    @thomas heaton if you use blend modes, you can blend in the sky a lot easier. Multiply and lighten blend modes are very useful for big changes in light.

  • @anthonyplancherel8274
    @anthonyplancherel8274 5 років тому

    Great final final final Mr H!

  • @wjeurs
    @wjeurs 2 роки тому

    I find it hard when I shoot in different exposures to make a composite, to match the exact editing. So they blend together nicely regarding colour and exposure. Sometimes I make the mistake of using auto white balance which makes me end up with 3 photos that slightly defer in colour and don't go well together 😂

  • @MariusMestermann
    @MariusMestermann 5 років тому

    Starting to sound more and more like Bob Ross when painting gently 😉 Great vid as always!

  • @joeiscoffee
    @joeiscoffee 5 років тому

    Very good work here, Thomas. Thanks.

  • @KaiCo.
    @KaiCo. 5 років тому +1

    I really never thought about covering my lense with my hand, to avoid lense flair!! Thanks :)

  • @metrixc
    @metrixc 5 років тому

    Hi Thomas, that’s the video I wanted to see :) Could you please explain what you mean by saying: Exposing for the sky/shadows do you alter the shutter speed for the individual pictures?
    Beat regards and great video,
    Thomas

  • @Third13
    @Third13 5 років тому

    Awesome! Thanks so much for making this video because this is very helpful to an amateur like me.

  • @ScottymanPhoto
    @ScottymanPhoto 5 років тому

    Nice work! Great image as always!

  • @arvizaslt
    @arvizaslt 5 років тому +1

    great video! very beautiful mountains and sunshine!

  • @johnstarkey4959
    @johnstarkey4959 5 років тому

    Thomas , What’s the second monitor your using please ?

  • @nomadcompany
    @nomadcompany 5 років тому

    whats the white spot in the centre of the image mate..... can get my head around it. did i miss the hero 7 discussion mate?

  • @MrKrupp42
    @MrKrupp42 5 років тому

    Always a pleasure to watch mate, thanks for the videos

  • @Aliciente
    @Aliciente 5 років тому +3

    I ordered the calendar three weeks ago.

  • @MikeChesworthPhotography
    @MikeChesworthPhotography 5 років тому

    Nice to see how you create a final image from a composite. It's really made me think more about taking multiple shots on location to get that perfect shot. 👍

  • @sweetscience1988
    @sweetscience1988 5 років тому

    Thanks for showing us behind the curtain its helpful to a total PS noob, it’s funny how artists (yes thats what we do) get hung up on the slightest of details, my wife says things like you cant see that little imperfection, problem is we can’t unsee it.
    P.S that pen looks great i may invest.

  • @ivanulyanov3461
    @ivanulyanov3461 5 років тому +2

    Thomas is turning into Bob Ross again, good times.

    • @molopez619
      @molopez619 5 років тому +2

      Ivan Ulyanov happy mountains. The other maintain range needs a friend.

  • @DiegoMcCartney
    @DiegoMcCartney 5 років тому

    Still looks quite natural, which is great. Good thinking doing the dodging and burning.

  • @steffore1
    @steffore1 5 років тому

    A great edit Thomas 👍🏽

  • @carolynwilding1116
    @carolynwilding1116 5 років тому

    I do love watching your blogs Tom,but prefer watching on a smart tv, a small screen dosn't do you justice. Downside being I can't leave comments or order the calender! So, much as I love the image and film, that lake bang in the middle drives me mad wheras the lens flare was beautiful!! all taste I guess. Good work,Tom I really enjoy all your content.

  • @ericjohnston3569
    @ericjohnston3569 5 років тому

    Good thing with editing digital is you can do an edit, delete it and do it again over and over till you like it.

  • @eddeh0772
    @eddeh0772 5 років тому

    Been a while since I’ve been to your channel, not for any particular reason except a combination of being busy and going down a flat earther video sinkhole (NOT as a supporter, just as a curious observer of the weirdest horror show I’ve encountered in a while), but super happy to return. Love the new digs and for all the other reasons I always liked your videos. Great channel

  • @adictcreativephotography5267
    @adictcreativephotography5267 5 років тому

    Thomas, I absolutely love the lens flare!

  • @StephenHOutdoors
    @StephenHOutdoors 5 років тому

    Great video, Tom, I thoroughly enjoyed it. And that is a beautiful image.

  • @OgetID
    @OgetID 5 років тому

    Easy edit but not too easy to think 😁😁👍

  • @Pixeld.
    @Pixeld. 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for showing your post processing, what Pen are you using for the edit in PS ?

  • @richardcarmichael8915
    @richardcarmichael8915 5 років тому

    Great video. Helpful

  • @matt.rraw.
    @matt.rraw. 5 років тому

    Thomas, one question, do you exercise? Or atleast condition yourself before a long hike??

  • @SimonMcCabe
    @SimonMcCabe 5 років тому

    Great work.

  • @JungleEddie
    @JungleEddie 5 років тому

    I enjoyed this video and pre-ordered my calendar.

  • @battoon
    @battoon 5 років тому

    Both images are fantastic!

  • @hillelbrandes1488
    @hillelbrandes1488 5 років тому

    Very informative! Thank you! Great video!

  • @columbo7927
    @columbo7927 5 років тому

    That lake looks a bit ominous reflections and all are very nice but. Would anyone notice if you drafted in a couple of wee little boats to make it less of a nuisance.

  • @harperstathletics
    @harperstathletics 5 років тому

    just ordered my calendar! will be hanging in my office in Alaska...if you ever need an aurora guide.... just sayin'

  • @MaximPodbereznyy
    @MaximPodbereznyy 5 років тому

    Thomas, already ordered your calendar :)

  • @robertnelson3179
    @robertnelson3179 5 років тому

    Thanks for the walk through and then a rework voice over.

  • @nb7524
    @nb7524 5 років тому

    Very helpful, thank you!

  • @ShrinidhiAcharya
    @ShrinidhiAcharya 5 років тому

    HI, Big Fan.. Love to see your Desktop setup, ur editing gagets etc etc.. Keep up the Great work..

  • @matssandquist9258
    @matssandquist9258 5 років тому

    Hmm, interesting to read the comments about lens flare. I sat a whole evening trying to remove lens flare from a sun rise shooting. Maybe I shouldn't care, because my first thought was, I did a poor job but I felt like the photo looked good as it was.

  • @OrenSarid
    @OrenSarid 5 років тому

    Why are you so against the flare?!?! In some cases, this included, it is quite nice...

  • @allynscott1983
    @allynscott1983 5 років тому

    Looking forward to seeing more content from your trip to the Pacific Northwest. It sounds like you had a good trip (action cameras not withstanding).
    I'm actually going to be in the U.K. next week for a business trip and trying to find a way to fit in a couple of days of photography. It would be a real shame if I'm not able to.

  • @davewall4931
    @davewall4931 5 років тому

    Great tips, thanks a lot.

  • @sic04250f
    @sic04250f 5 років тому

    This is a very helpful video

  • @Beano_z
    @Beano_z 5 років тому

    Oh that tshirt again, I finally found out last week why I still haven’t received mine, apparently DHL lost the package and they’re printing a new one for me, guess limited edition is not that limited anymore ;-)

  • @jameslane3846
    @jameslane3846 5 років тому

    I was never happy with my editing when I shot digital because it meant sitting for hours in front of a computer playing around until it looked "good" and then later a few days later, I didn't like it anymore.
    This is one of the many reasons why I switched to film!

    • @volodymyrcuza9994
      @volodymyrcuza9994 5 років тому

      Hi James, may I ask what film stock would you use for this scene with a very high dynamic range? I've recently started playing with film as well, but so far the results are pretty horrible, but I'm sure it's because I'm doing something completely wrong:D

    • @jameslane3846
      @jameslane3846 5 років тому

      @@volodymyrcuza9994 the professional colour negatives from Kodak and Fuji would be best if using colour for high dynamic range scenes. The Kodak Portra 400 having the best capability to deal with high contrast having 17 stops of dynamic range and able to overexposed by 6+ stops (though don't know why anyone would do that).
      But the downside of Portra 400 is that it won't be as fine grained as the 160 one or other slower films (but grain doesn't necessarily mean a bad thing, it's a subjective taste) and it's also Kodak's flagship colour neg and most popular so naturally it became one of the most expensive colour negative films.
      Also don't underexpose film unless you want a muddy, grainy look in colour negative and BnW or everything pure black in colour slide!!!

    • @volodymyrcuza9994
      @volodymyrcuza9994 5 років тому +1

      @@jameslane3846 Thanks a lot for the prompt reply!

  • @rjamarion4
    @rjamarion4 5 років тому

    Where did you get the shirt from.

  • @TheKrafty0664
    @TheKrafty0664 5 років тому

    Putting your hand over the sun to get rid of the lens flair was a trick I didn’t know about.
    Thanks.

  • @Twa-Dags
    @Twa-Dags 5 років тому +1

    Great tips there, you made it look quite easy, cheers 😊

  • @hbian1566
    @hbian1566 5 років тому

    Great work Thomas! I have been watching your youtube channel for some time and would be glad to preorder your calendar. On second thought it would be out of use after time passes the calendar range. Will you be printing any books specifically with some of the best photos you take? I would like to order that book :D.

  • @larrylancaster4287
    @larrylancaster4287 5 років тому +1

    What is that white patch near the center?

  • @johnsholian4318
    @johnsholian4318 5 років тому

    Lovely sunrise but I’m not really sure what I’m supposed to be looking at in this image. The lake? The sun? It just feels like there was a lot of work involved to create what seems like just a nice overall sunrise image with no real strong subject.

  • @rajeshmishra8738
    @rajeshmishra8738 5 років тому

    I love your pictures .....can you please share some tips for smartphone photographers.

    • @paultaylor5513
      @paultaylor5513 5 років тому

      Do you think it's likely he'll do that?

  • @ryantanakaphoto
    @ryantanakaphoto 5 років тому

    I appreciate seeing the various edits. Thanks.

  • @ammarr9030
    @ammarr9030 5 років тому

    Whats wrong with lens flares...??

  • @Fresno1199
    @Fresno1199 5 років тому

    I’m new to Lr/PS so your timing was very helpful.

  • @ryanstark2350
    @ryanstark2350 5 років тому

    Those bright white reflections are a huge distraction in this image. In a view like this where foreground is a bit too dull, I would just not bother trying to add that and go for a longer shot. It's not necessary to always try to add foreground detail.

  • @RossJukesPhotography
    @RossJukesPhotography 5 років тому +1

    Really interesting watching videos like this. Whereas I appreciate how frustrating it is, it's great to see that even the Pro's have the same troubles as us mere mortals! Very interesting... Love the final image.

  • @redauwg911
    @redauwg911 5 років тому +2

    How would this photo of looked if you had used a prime lens? Maybe one with strait aperture blades ?

  • @alanmorton7253
    @alanmorton7253 5 років тому

    Is it just me or does that lake look like Arabic writing from a distance? I don't like lens flare and I like what you did to remove it. A good example of the 7 P's in action. Thank you

  • @philipbrooks9752
    @philipbrooks9752 5 років тому

    Hi Tom. Another great video, hope you didn't forget to mention your "Sponsor".

  • @MsRainer04
    @MsRainer04 5 років тому

    Calender bought!

  • @chriss2761
    @chriss2761 5 років тому

    Always love your post edit workflow vlogs Thomas 👍 was pmsl at your face when you weren’t happy with your edit I’m like that every time I edit and take a photo 😂 thanks again for sharing your work stunning image👌🙏calendar ordered can’t wait to see it !!

  • @chrisjonesfilm
    @chrisjonesfilm 5 років тому

    The fact that I'm working on some images right now, and feel the exact same way, is the perfect video you could've posted today. Thank you Tom!