I tried the new foot placement and focused on popping with the tail behind my body today at the park today, and it's an immediate improvement. You're totally right. You feel much more controlled, and it's easier to pull the board up higher. I tried a kickflip with the same techniques, which I'm getting close on, and it was immediately much more straight and centered under my body. Damn, this is the best skating advice I've found in a while.
For Kickflips, your front foot is the flick foot, and the back foot is your pull foot. So when you POP you're flicking with your flick foot which makes the board go forward out from under you, and your POP foot is the one that brings it back for the landing. So you're pushing/pulling at the same time. Flick with the front foot, pull back with the back foot, and you will see you have a nice clean kickflip that stays perfectly underneath you and then you land clean and roll away. Remember to pull back with that pop foot and your ollies/flips will stay perfectly placed under you for the landing. This guys advice in the video is kinda wack. But that's just my opinion after 20+ years of Skateboarding.
Notice his use of an arm swing-watch as he crosses his arms on the way down, and with an explosive movement, swings them up as he pops the board. This technique enhances the power of upward motion. He may be completely unaware of this but I definitely think that this helps.
I’m gonna be honest. I played basketball my whole life. I’m 6’4 and athletic. Just started skating 3 months ago and I can Ollie much higher than everyone at the park. I still can’t even kickflip lol
I was out of shape when I started, but I knew how to Ollie from when I was a kid. The only thing that helped me get better at ollying higher and taking impact from a higher jump was watching basketball tutorials for dunking 😂 So technically, you have an advantage over kids that just have talent in skateboard tricks. I spend hours kickflipping (over time) even though I can land it first try, I want them to look and feel perfect. I'll watch other younger guys do amazing lines and do a horrible kickflip, so as long as you enjoy showing off your Ollie heights, you should progress that as long as you can, the other tricks will come, and sometimes by accident, when you're so comfortable on the board that tricks will start to be easier to learn. 👍
i am an athlete and i play basketball and volleyball along with my skating and one thing that stands out more than my high vertical when it comes to my ollie is that i’m 6” so my legs are longer than most of the guys at the park and tucking them in when i ollie gives me more height than someone shorter so i think it’s a combination of things
Yeah, it all comes to strength and power i'm 5'9 and I can ollie 6 boards, once I did 7. I wish I was taller and I could try 8 :) But if you are not that athletic, you can lift your knees up to ollie higher, it also works.
Very cool analysis, I liked it a lot. I'll also say that one thing you didn't mention, which may help you, is that Tyshawn bends VERY deep before he pops. Especially for his height, his knees often touch teach other because he is both bending and swaying his back knee. Reminding me of of pigdog backhand surfing style where the back knee is not only bent but cast sideways.
Might be one of the other tips he didn't mention in this vid. Norman Woods has a video on it that's really good and informative, I think it's the first vid in his rookie mistakes series which is great all around.
Crazy I didnt notice this But i notice i have less control when my heel is hanging off that much I put my foot on the frontside edge of the board and legit try to “bounce” the board away from me Theres like 10 things youre doing at once to ollie But once you get the timing of the jump down Sucking in your knees like this video is suggesting is key! It legit gives me damn near 16-20 inch pop at least Def over a foot
thanks for this, getting back into my skating and i had a high ass ollie and lost it, relearning here as an old ass with not young natural muscular speed and fire and this technique analysis makes so much sense and i remember now, yes, be before your board, let the board follow you always, bring the beast with you
i agree! technique is definitely a huge factor but Muggsy Bogues has huge legs and was in perfect physical condition but yeah bla bla bla im ramblin peace
@@MaNuLaToROfficialyeah his legs were crazy. That shit is way crazier than any high Ollie though like when you watch his dunk it doesn’t even look real.
Breakdown was superb. It’s one thing to share the lesson but to actually show results on how it worked for you was awesome That back knee is the sauce! 👨🏾🍳🔥
We use to watch Natas Kaupas in the Santa Cruz videos back in day and study his technique. Was way ahead of his time. His pop was crazy especially when we all were skating heavier boards before the popsicle revolution took off..
Thank you so much for this video!❤❤❤ Tried this hack yesterday and my 7 deck ollie went to 9. It took about 5 minutes. Absolutely INSANE. And with same tehnique my kick and heelflips went much higher. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Love you!❤️
Great analysis dude! another thing that helped me, and you can also see him do it in the vid, is to get your ass closer to the ground and resist the urge to lean your upper body forward. also practicing this during jump squats not only helps with your ollie form but helps increase leg strength wich helps maintain your stability. Also, you can notice the importance of arms in ollies. often overlooked, but notice how he tucks in his arms as he crouches, then throws them up as he pops, then quickly pulls them down when reaches the apex of his pop as pulls his knees to his chest. this using one of Newton's laws of motion (forgot which one, lol), by countering the upward inertia of his his legs allowing him to get his board even higher. I love how you incorporated physics into your analysis! 👍😎👍
Great video and Tips! I will have to implement this. Another thing I would love to see you try is to start doing body squats and calf raises for a month and see how it changes your Ollies. I am 6'2 and over 220 lbs and my ollies are the highest they have ever been compared to when I was 180lbs and I put it almost entirely down to Body Squats and Calf raises. I noticed I also implement the knee technique though. I will have to add the other two.
been skating 20 years, as a 140lb skinny teen to now a jacked 190lb thirtysomething, the weight makes a big difference. i do some things better now but cannot take big drops or ollie as high as i used to
Dude is like a human spring. He bends down so far before popping, then when he does, his entire body just flies upward along with his arms, and I haven’t seen the full vid yet but I guarantee that’s the biggest variable here - his arm movement, and the way it helps him to almost give himself a brief second of lift that the board has to catch up to lol 😄 The old dogs must be hella proud of this guy.
That was something I could never get down pulling the board back my brother taught me that years ago and he does it for everything even kicks his back foot back on his kickflips which helps the board snap up and finishing flipping as it reaches its height and connects to his feet such a clean and beautiful way to skate
Used this method after 8 days of trying to Ollie and now it looks crisp. Not perfect but damn good. Thank you man, I subbed and ima hop on that patreon list first chance I get
What I've found helps with ollie height is to just keep it simple. Once your body knows how to ollie and does it naturally, all you have to do is think about jumping straight up and as high as you can, tucking your knees as high as they will go. Crouching lower initially helps maintain balance too, but that's just for me.
@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 took me years as a kid, I quit skateboarding and came back to it when I was older and finally had it. if you want it you can do it just be persistent!
i just used the tips too and they actually work!!! mainly the one about poping the board back. I think the reason it works is because its like when you jump off of one foot when you're running. its easy to understand and relatable to something youre used to. It simplifies the pop. All you have to do from there is tuck your knees and kick the nose forward.
Building hip flexor strength is probably the most crucial thing. If you watch his jump in the ollie, his jump is not very high, his hip is just slightly above the height of the car, which most people can do without a high vertical. All about bringing up the knees imo
I guess some skaters don’t know that you are suppose to pop against the direction you’re going, otherwise, the board would rocket. Getting a good olllie just comes from preloading the board before popping and using your toes (not your leg) to create the energy to get a good pop, and just jumping high as you can.
When I started trying to get more air out of my ollies I started doing popless ollies because i was preloading the board so much and just dragging it in the air with my front foot🤣🤣
I'm about to go to the park and feel so stupid trying this. Wish me luck. My ollies suck, but this makes a lot of sense. Do you think about pointing your toes down as you pop, or what?
@@lucasferrell7793 yeah, your toe will point down when you pop(as you see when Tyshawn does them) you’re pretty much flicking your ankle down when you pop. Some people make the mistake of using their leg and put more strain on themselves.
I think a big part of the sound changing is with that back foot position you actually spend less time with your weight on the board when it pops. Notice how Tyshawn's back foot is completely extended, so he's flexing his foot downward very hard for the last part of the pop before contact with the ground. Takes some strong calf muscles. I only focused on that part before finding this video and it helped me heaps.
You can further increase your ollie by starting the motion closer to the ground. Notice that Tyshawn's even crosses his arms at the beginning of the movement, generating a greater push. So, if you simulate that as well, you'll gain more inches in your ollie... peace!
Highest I can Ollie in my prime was about 4ft and the farthest completely horizontal gap I ever ollied was about 16 feet. Just recently put a new board together. I'm 29 now been skating since I was 10-27. And those 2-3 years off completely ridded my legs of the muscles I buikt over a lifetime of skating. Don't EVER stop. I'm going to get my passion back. Wish me luck
@@Absoluteherbivore let's get to it! It's like riding a bike. Youll know how to get your tricks back instantly. You never forget HOW to do tricks or foot placement. The problem is your body not physically being able to after so long. But once that strength comes back it's smooth sailing!!! Good luck bro hope the love is still there
Putting in your back foot in the “pocket” is about balance. It’s body mechanics. Also timing and driving your front foot into the board when you slide will lift your board as high as you want it.
The backfoot placement is ultimatively also, what helped me to learn the ollie. You get so much more pop and I think its because the less foot you have on ur board to pop the less pressure there is to make the board levitate easier.
(Been doing rocket ollies and trying to stop) I tried the positioning and it helped me get a much higher pop, that made me more confident to bend down lower (which was causing my rocket ollies) and just wow was landing my best ollies and felt great. Will continue to practice but this for sure helped! Thank you!
Balls of your feet, practice being light on your board/springy> straight up and down posture> arms down>pop>snag> ollie early and move at steady speed.
Amazing video! I learned a lot from this! I think one thing that you might be missing though is that when he places his back foot toward the corner he is now getting some spring from the bushings of the trucks! When your foot is just in the middle you get zero spring from the bushings. I don’t know this is just a guess???
Always used to be jealous of short skaters because of their short center of mass, but then i saw Tyshawn. That changed my view pretty drastically, i stand somewhere between 6'0 and 6'1 with really long legs and ive noticed that ollieing over tall things is easier for me as well, so long as i just focus on going over and not on the ollie itself.
just a quick note: when you were doing the highest setting and saying you were using all techniques, you actually started putting your back foot back in the middle of the tail. nothing wrong with that, we're all a little different with how we ollie but just saying you managed to still get that height with your foot in the middle of the tail, the real secret is lifting the knees as high as you can and popping backwards. for me i always popped backwards but would sometimes mess up the timing and would miss the pop because i threw it too far backwards
The biggest factor is the flowing motion going down bending your knees moving the body towards the ground like winding up a spring before you pop. You see him do it in all of the footage shown. Getting that down and then able to rub the front side of your front foot to grab and level the board and you'll have a nice ollie. In your video parts you see you still lack the spring movement a bit. You bend the knees before the ollie without having that flowing spring movement. Don't get me wrong, you're getting nice height, but making that windup movement is using physics to give you lift.
The rear foot placement works! Also-- opened the rear foot to 4-oclock instead of 3. Instant improvement in timing, board sticks to feet! One big change is I couldn't put as much weight on the rear foot (b/c it's off center), which forced me to shift weight forward, which also helps the pop push the board towards the rear. Thanks Joe!
Awesome. Love the details. Helps me understand and retain the information. My tip for the ones trying to learn to ollie higher is give it your all. You cant be shy about it or half assed. Just send er, bud! Full power 🔋🔋🔋🔋
Nice video. May I had a little detail here. Most people are looking forward to where they are going to pop the ollie instead of actually keeping they're eye on the back foot. I know it's tricky and you need to train your brain to do the math, but if you're sight is on your back foot it already makes your back knee align better with your ear. I hope this makes sense to you and I really cheer you to give it a try. Take care
Pop is also about the forces you apply on the skateboard. Another tip I realized that can help is to think about is that you should start the pop motion once all of the force of your body is in the 'air' there is almost zero of your body weight on your skate and thats when you want to release the snap from your back foot. Logically before this you build up the pressure by squating and having most of body weight in the back foot.
It’s not that his foot is on the heel side of the board, but that he’s on his toes in the center tip of the tail. If his whole foot was on the board, his toes would be popping off the toe side edge of the board.
The first thing you noticed with his back foot placement. It's so that his big toe is at the center of the tale that's where you get the best pop. You don't want to try to do an ollie flat-footed you want the most pressure on the center of your big toe thus the foot placement. Moving on to your next thing that you noticed that you covered in this video he doesn't push the board back when he ollies no no no no no you only do that in a stationary ollie... he jumps ahead of the board when ollies and is that for height? nope it's not not at all in any way shape or form, that is for the distance he needs to cover during his height ollie. The last thing you noticed is the tucking of the back knee ,now that you're actually on to something there... that will definitely bring the back end of the skateboard up higher because you are tucking you are not jumping ....when you ollie your head virtually stays at the same height, you're bringing your lower body up that's what an ollie is... bringing your lower body up not jumping. I taught skateboarding at a skate camp for two summers and I was a pro skateboarder from 98 through 2003 have a great day everybody keep skating!💪🏻❤
Back foot placement is probably a torque/mechanical work thing. Small increase in length of effective lever and also length increase increases torque...aka more length leads to more force
Another tip is keeping your front foot STRAIGHT rather than curved towards the nose. Sort of like the way a front foot looks like like in a switch Ollie I tried that yesterday and it helped not only with higher pops but more control in my tres too
I call it pullback pop in my head to rmb to do it haha I think pulling back on your pop also makes sure the board stays straight VS if you try to pop completely straight down, if you’re not perfectly straight, the board will turn as if you scooped it slightly.
You can Ollie as high as the skateboard for anybody on the regular pop. Once you trust your board, you can go as high as you jump. I used to Ollie up to the tip of the board when it's vertical. I've gotten out of a small empty pool that was as high as the skateboard. I need to relearn but once you get this, you feel more control over your board. I used push down on the tail to heel side. Almost similar to this Ollie style. That tuck knee is also important. With a kick flip it looks fresh when you do it 😊
Hey I think that he puts his back foot on the corner so he can use the flick of his ankle as much as possible without having to worry about whether or not the board moves to far back to catch it.
PROTIP: remove your back foot's sock and apply chapstick between your toes and put the shoe back on...... right after you pop count to 3 before landing. the higher you count the longer you will stay in the air thus the higher you will go.....this will work for nollie as well just alternate your chapstick foot accordingly... i wish i had learned this sooner.
@@MrMargaretScratcher the chapstick helps with your toes flexing to the shape of the tail thru pops and scoops. You can substitute Margarine or WF-40 but you’ll have to count slower (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi….) because it’s much sloppier than chapstick. I’ve always just stuck chapstick. Everybody thinks it’s about the shoe and the grip but nobody talks about the most important part.. the main touch points between human and board. And that is the toes themselves. Lube them toes up right 👌
@@MrMargaretScratcher I was skeptical as well. My buddy Charlie showed me back when we were just kids and all we had was mayo packets from the school cafeteria. We’d meet up and skate after school everyday. And with just a few squirts on his big toe and pinky toe and Charlie was popping the highest Ollies. He always left some mayo in the packet to share with us. Years later now much wiser I just use my chapstick. The viscosity is just better and you don’t need to worry about your grandma smelling your feet and getting suspicious. Just remember the 3Cs to Ollie big - Count - Chapstick - Cool Ollie Bro
To bring that back leg up with more efficiency try strengthening and strengthening your hip flexors. That should allow for easier mobility. Try it out.
Back foot. Think it’s actually putting pressure directly in the middle. Both ways, between truck and very end of the tail, and side to side. And yeh def pop with slight roll backward, like ud do so forward for nollie and fakie. But one thing I see everyone missing, after the pop the whole board raises inches vertically in the air before the front foot does anything; need to slow down and time the front foot tweak exactly when board reaches its highest point. Some sick pointers here mate good work.
5 7.75 decks pro style was the most i ever got when i used to skate every day. 7 stacked intertwined. I could get onto most picknick tables without snagging my rear truck. Keep in mind though, that i could run and jump over a 6 ft wall without touching it at the time. So ollying 3-4 ft was definitely possible. Im 5'10 and was a very lean 135 lbs at the time as well.
I have been employing this technique since before I stumbled upon this video, helps to have an elevated surface rather than something you go over because the fear of falling isn't nearly as intense. I ollied up a 2 ft picnic table today, it's just above knee height on me and I'm 6'0.
yo that's sick!! I like how the physics can be applied. Growing up we all knew these things, passed around the knowledge at skate sessions, "yo put your foot back on the tail get that POP!!" "yo if you tuck your knees when you ollie, you get massive height" "yo lean forward a bit" this always followed with "what if I just melon grab it?" followed by "or christ air, yo what if you can airwalk...ayyy watch this airwalk" lol
I used to have really high ollies. I would put my feet pretty close to each other, and after popping I would just try to do a regular high jump and try to get my knees to touch my chest, sending your board to do a pop guarantee that your front foot would go first and your back foot after, so you don't really need to practice that front foot going forward move that is taught when learning to ollie, and because your feet are close to each other, it gives the board more room to get to a more vertical position when popping, so once your feet align with one another, the board is as high as it can be.
I love this video. The ollie position makes a lot of sense. You can actually train jumping ability as well. The maximum potential doesn't change obviously and some people (like NBA guys) probably have more than most people. Jumping ability translates into higher ollies if your ollie technique is decent. I think it would be crazy to have skaters training for jumping with heavy weightlifting and plyometrics in a way that works.
Tyshawn is one of them guys who put in unbelievable amounts of work which builds skill/ raw attributes + the stars slightly aligning for him. Thought this was going to be a whack video but it’s a fair analysis on technique I think. thanks 🙏🏼
My big 3 to increase ollie height: 1. New board with lots of stiffness equals more pop; 2. New grip and New shoes helps the board stick like glue; and 3. The crouch - gotta' get real low and bring your knees way up after the pop to get maximum height for the Ollie. 🛹
Manz got hopz and that good scoop! I always have to ollie over something or as I got older onto something! If I try to ollie without at least thinking about ollieing over something.
the reason why putting the back foot on the heel side creates so much pop is because when you pop, the power comes from your big toe, and when the big toe is in the very middle, you can get a ton more power out of it
@@Dontbustthecrust Yeah, I hit the gym a few times a week. Between skating and the gym my legs are always exhausted, so I should honestly rest them more. I rarely feel fresh at the park.
I think the foot positioning is because you are simply popping your tail at the apex of the tail. when you have your foot fully on the tail, you might pop with the side of the tail. basicly all your power goes to your toes, when popping, so you're better off putting your toes right in the middle of the tail ;-)
The back foot in that pocket gives you a shorter pop resulting in higher pop. I know this because I have my back foot in that pocket when I do an Ollie, back 180s, front 180s, and kick flips. Giving more pop.
I love this analysis. Gonna think about this at tomorrow's session. Gotta say though, the third tip is a hilarious piece of advice to give someone out of context. "Just touch your ear with your knee to ollie higher."
Popping back is so vital for me. Lately my best ollies come from when I think about popping back, then pushing the top of my front foot into the nose, to really let it swing up behind.
the back foot should have the least amount on as possible to increase the force per sq. in. for greater pop.. and yes, lift your knees for maximum height.. practice by simply jumping onto things without a board to work on bringing them up.. like a picnic table- 1st the bench, then the table
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I tried the new foot placement and focused on popping with the tail behind my body today at the park today, and it's an immediate improvement. You're totally right. You feel much more controlled, and it's easier to pull the board up higher. I tried a kickflip with the same techniques, which I'm getting close on, and it was immediately much more straight and centered under my body. Damn, this is the best skating advice I've found in a while.
nice!
Yea right!
For Kickflips, your front foot is the flick foot, and the back foot is your pull foot. So when you POP you're flicking with your flick foot which makes the board go forward out from under you, and your POP foot is the one that brings it back for the landing. So you're pushing/pulling at the same time. Flick with the front foot, pull back with the back foot, and you will see you have a nice clean kickflip that stays perfectly underneath you and then you land clean and roll away. Remember to pull back with that pop foot and your ollies/flips will stay perfectly placed under you for the landing.
This guys advice in the video is kinda wack. But that's just my opinion after 20+ years of Skateboarding.
no its not wack it works youre just tryna be some superior weirdo nobody cares if you skated 2 decades or 2 seconds@@michaeldavis3913
This works great with 180 Nollie or fake he maneuvers because you think about popping the tail down diagonal in the backwards direction really helps
We got the tyshawn method before gta 6
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We got everything that has ever happened before gta IV bruh this shit crazy 😔
@@Zocet we even got gta 5 before gta 6 😭😭
Notice his use of an arm swing-watch as he crosses his arms on the way down, and with an explosive movement, swings them up as he pops the board. This technique enhances the power of upward motion. He may be completely unaware of this but I definitely think that this helps.
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So he's Johnny Joestar?
Michael Jordan was good at that too
@@GunsForEveryoneIsaac was?
nothing to do with arms
Big yikes at locking skateboarding content behind a Patreon paywall…
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Why is it more bad when its “skateboarding content”? Lol
@@blackbandz3385it's lame how broke you are
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You forgot 11. Doo-rag for increased aerodynamic profile.
I’m gonna be honest. I played basketball my whole life. I’m 6’4 and athletic. Just started skating 3 months ago and I can Ollie much higher than everyone at the park. I still can’t even kickflip lol
I was out of shape when I started, but I knew how to Ollie from when I was a kid. The only thing that helped me get better at ollying higher and taking impact from a higher jump was watching basketball tutorials for dunking 😂
So technically, you have an advantage over kids that just have talent in skateboard tricks. I spend hours kickflipping (over time) even though I can land it first try, I want them to look and feel perfect. I'll watch other younger guys do amazing lines and do a horrible kickflip, so as long as you enjoy showing off your Ollie heights, you should progress that as long as you can, the other tricks will come, and sometimes by accident, when you're so comfortable on the board that tricks will start to be easier to learn. 👍
i am an athlete and i play basketball and volleyball along with my skating and one thing that stands out more than my high vertical when it comes to my ollie is that i’m 6” so my legs are longer than most of the guys at the park and tucking them in when i ollie gives me more height than someone shorter so i think it’s a combination of things
Yeah, it all comes to strength and power i'm 5'9 and I can ollie 6 boards, once I did 7. I wish I was taller and I could try 8 :) But if you are not that athletic, you can lift your knees up to ollie higher, it also works.
@@eriklona8806 I also learned to Ollie as a kid. That’s also a big part of how I’ve quickly built up fat Ollie’s
wow nice
Kareem Campbell has that crazy pop too, don't forget about Brandon Westgate. They would be good to study on their technique.
Both are great examples, Andrew Brophy is another one
Yes how could we forget Brandon. crazy pop. Jake Hayes is also up there along with Tiago Lemos
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Jake Hayes has the highest ollie
Kareem 100
Very cool analysis, I liked it a lot. I'll also say that one thing you didn't mention, which may help you, is that Tyshawn bends VERY deep before he pops. Especially for his height, his knees often touch teach other because he is both bending and swaying his back knee. Reminding me of of pigdog backhand surfing style where the back knee is not only bent but cast sideways.
Might be one of the other tips he didn't mention in this vid. Norman Woods has a video on it that's really good and informative, I think it's the first vid in his rookie mistakes series which is great all around.
In that last ollie, your back foot wasnt in the corner which proves it was just all in your head.
Yeh I noticed this too.
Crazy
I didnt notice this
But i notice i have less control when my heel is hanging off that much
I put my foot on the frontside edge of the board and legit try to “bounce” the board away from me
Theres like 10 things youre doing at once to ollie
But once you get the timing of the jump down
Sucking in your knees like this video is suggesting is key!
It legit gives me damn near 16-20 inch pop at least
Def over a foot
thanks for this, getting back into my skating and i had a high ass ollie and lost it, relearning here as an old ass with not young natural muscular speed and fire and this technique analysis makes so much sense and i remember now, yes, be before your board, let the board follow you always, bring the beast with you
I'm in the same boat, used to Ollie garbage cans at 19 now 39 and can barley get the board off the ground
Core strength is a key as well
i agree! technique is definitely a huge factor but Muggsy Bogues has huge legs and was in perfect physical condition but yeah bla bla bla im ramblin peace
@@MaNuLaToROfficialyeah his legs were crazy. That shit is way crazier than any high Ollie though like when you watch his dunk it doesn’t even look real.
Hey I just wanna say you've done a really good job. Seen ya when you first started posting. You've came a long ways. Good content too
Breakdown was superb. It’s one thing to share the lesson but to actually show results on how it worked for you was awesome
That back knee is the sauce! 👨🏾🍳🔥
We use to watch Natas Kaupas in the Santa Cruz videos back in day and study his technique. Was way ahead of his time. His pop was crazy especially when we all were skating heavier boards before the popsicle revolution took off..
And also - no angled nose which your foot could drag against. Getting a high ollie on an 80's board feels impossible.
Thank you so much for this video!❤❤❤ Tried this hack yesterday and my 7 deck ollie went to 9. It took about 5 minutes. Absolutely INSANE. And with same tehnique my kick and heelflips went much higher. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Love you!❤️
Great analysis dude! another thing that helped me, and you can also see him do it in the vid, is to get your ass closer to the ground and resist the urge to lean your upper body forward.
also practicing this during jump squats not only helps with your ollie form but helps increase leg strength wich helps maintain your stability.
Also, you can notice the importance of arms in ollies.
often overlooked, but notice how he tucks in his arms as he crouches, then throws them up as he pops, then quickly pulls them down when reaches the apex of his pop as pulls his knees to his chest. this using one of Newton's laws of motion (forgot which one, lol), by countering the upward inertia of his his legs allowing him to get his board even higher.
I love how you incorporated physics into your analysis!
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Great video and Tips! I will have to implement this. Another thing I would love to see you try is to start doing body squats and calf raises for a month and see how it changes your Ollies. I am 6'2 and over 220 lbs and my ollies are the highest they have ever been compared to when I was 180lbs and I put it almost entirely down to Body Squats and Calf raises. I noticed I also implement the knee technique though. I will have to add the other two.
been skating 20 years, as a 140lb skinny teen to now a jacked 190lb thirtysomething, the weight makes a big difference. i do some things better now but cannot take big drops or ollie as high as i used to
Dude is like a human spring. He bends down so far before popping, then when he does, his entire body just flies upward along with his arms, and I haven’t seen the full vid yet but I guarantee that’s the biggest variable here - his arm movement, and the way it helps him to almost give himself a brief second of lift that the board has to catch up to lol 😄
The old dogs must be hella proud of this guy.
That was something I could never get down pulling the board back my brother taught me that years ago and he does it for everything even kicks his back foot back on his kickflips which helps the board snap up and finishing flipping as it reaches its height and connects to his feet such a clean and beautiful way to skate
Used this method after 8 days of trying to Ollie and now it looks crisp. Not perfect but damn good. Thank you man, I subbed and ima hop on that patreon list first chance I get
What I've found helps with ollie height is to just keep it simple. Once your body knows how to ollie and does it naturally, all you have to do is think about jumping straight up and as high as you can, tucking your knees as high as they will go. Crouching lower initially helps maintain balance too, but that's just for me.
But if your feet aren’t setup to guide the board for that kinda jump, your board and feet will separate midair
i still gotta get my first ollie down bros
@@Schlammy7 ohhh
You can practice stalls on high ledges also. Can figure out your own little techniques that way. What i used to do in middle and hs
@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 took me years as a kid, I quit skateboarding and came back to it when I was older and finally had it. if you want it you can do it just be persistent!
i just used the tips too and they actually work!!!
mainly the one about poping the board back. I think the reason it works is because its like when you jump off of one foot when you're running.
its easy to understand and relatable to something youre used to. It simplifies the pop. All you have to do from there is tuck your knees and kick the nose forward.
That manual on the weight plates was my favorite you guys
Building hip flexor strength is probably the most crucial thing. If you watch his jump in the ollie, his jump is not very high, his hip is just slightly above the height of the car, which most people can do without a high vertical. All about bringing up the knees imo
Facts. Hip flexors dont lie, shakira shakira
Thats literally the entirety.
Interesting video Joe. Glad it helped you increase your pop 💪
I guess some skaters don’t know that you are suppose to pop against the direction you’re going, otherwise, the board would rocket. Getting a good olllie just comes from preloading the board before popping and using your toes (not your leg) to create the energy to get a good pop, and just jumping high as you can.
When I started trying to get more air out of my ollies I started doing popless ollies because i was preloading the board so much and just dragging it in the air with my front foot🤣🤣
I'm about to go to the park and feel so stupid trying this. Wish me luck. My ollies suck, but this makes a lot of sense. Do you think about pointing your toes down as you pop, or what?
@@lucasferrell7793 yeah, your toe will point down when you pop(as you see when Tyshawn does them) you’re pretty much flicking your ankle down when you pop. Some people make the mistake of using their leg and put more strain on themselves.
I think a big part of the sound changing is with that back foot position you actually spend less time with your weight on the board when it pops. Notice how Tyshawn's back foot is completely extended, so he's flexing his foot downward very hard for the last part of the pop before contact with the ground. Takes some strong calf muscles. I only focused on that part before finding this video and it helped me heaps.
You can further increase your ollie by starting the motion closer to the ground. Notice that Tyshawn's even crosses his arms at the beginning of the movement, generating a greater push. So, if you simulate that as well, you'll gain more inches in your ollie... peace!
Highest I can Ollie in my prime was about 4ft and the farthest completely horizontal gap I ever ollied was about 16 feet. Just recently put a new board together. I'm 29 now been skating since I was 10-27. And those 2-3 years off completely ridded my legs of the muscles I buikt over a lifetime of skating. Don't EVER stop. I'm going to get my passion back. Wish me luck
4ft is like a world record
@@jehscee well then we can go with however tall 8 stacked boards is
Right there with you bro. 28 y/o Just started last weekend after not skating for almost 10 years. Let’s go!!
@@Absoluteherbivore let's get to it! It's like riding a bike. Youll know how to get your tricks back instantly. You never forget HOW to do tricks or foot placement. The problem is your body not physically being able to after so long. But once that strength comes back it's smooth sailing!!! Good luck bro hope the love is still there
Putting in your back foot in the “pocket” is about balance. It’s body mechanics. Also timing and driving your front foot into the board when you slide will lift your board as high as you want it.
The backfoot placement is ultimatively also, what helped me to learn the ollie. You get so much more pop and I think its because the less foot you have on ur board to pop the less pressure there is to make the board levitate easier.
(Been doing rocket ollies and trying to stop) I tried the positioning and it helped me get a much higher pop, that made me more confident to bend down lower (which was causing my rocket ollies) and just wow was landing my best ollies and felt great. Will continue to practice but this for sure helped! Thank you!
The board follows your feet. If its just going rocket, you aren't sliding up and leveling it out at the crease before the nose.
Balls of your feet, practice being light on your board/springy> straight up and down posture> arms down>pop>snag> ollie early and move at steady speed.
Thinking about it, popping it behind you makes so much sense. That's how you ollie on a fingerboard.
Amazing video! I learned a lot from this! I think one thing that you might be missing though is that when he places his back foot toward the corner he is now getting some spring from the bushings of the trucks! When your foot is just in the middle you get zero spring from the bushings. I don’t know this is just a guess???
Always used to be jealous of short skaters because of their short center of mass, but then i saw Tyshawn. That changed my view pretty drastically, i stand somewhere between 6'0 and 6'1 with really long legs and ive noticed that ollieing over tall things is easier for me as well, so long as i just focus on going over and not on the ollie itself.
for ollies it's variable, it just depends on your consistency with foot placement and swipe speed being proportionate to your pop.
just a quick note:
when you were doing the highest setting and saying you were using all techniques, you actually started putting your back foot back in the middle of the tail.
nothing wrong with that, we're all a little different with how we ollie but just saying you managed to still get that height with your foot in the middle of the tail, the real secret is lifting the knees as high as you can and popping backwards. for me i always popped backwards but would sometimes mess up the timing and would miss the pop because i threw it too far backwards
I'm a simple man, I see "increase by six inches", I click
damn it really helps especially ‘the pop behind’ one, it helps basically all my tricks with better touch on the board woo
The biggest factor is the flowing motion going down bending your knees moving the body towards the ground like winding up a spring before you pop. You see him do it in all of the footage shown. Getting that down and then able to rub the front side of your front foot to grab and level the board and you'll have a nice ollie. In your video parts you see you still lack the spring movement a bit. You bend the knees before the ollie without having that flowing spring movement. Don't get me wrong, you're getting nice height, but making that windup movement is using physics to give you lift.
i liove your videos bro and i appreciate how far you dive into topics making it easy to grasp and relatable
The rear foot placement works! Also-- opened the rear foot to 4-oclock instead of 3. Instant improvement in timing, board sticks to feet! One big change is I couldn't put as much weight on the rear foot (b/c it's off center), which forced me to shift weight forward, which also helps the pop push the board towards the rear. Thanks Joe!
It's such a mental game once that barrier starts getting higher.
Get this man more subs. Excellent video!
Love it, will definitely keep this in mind next time at the park.
just went out this actually worked i havent skated in about 1 year second day back and it helped me get back into it and landed a kickflip first try
Awesome. Love the details. Helps me understand and retain the information. My tip for the ones trying to learn to ollie higher is give it your all. You cant be shy about it or half assed. Just send er, bud! Full power 🔋🔋🔋🔋
I skate again after a very long break and I remember using the same technique with the pop. Great tip.
Nice video. May I had a little detail here. Most people are looking forward to where they are going to pop the ollie instead of actually keeping they're eye on the back foot. I know it's tricky and you need to train your brain to do the math, but if you're sight is on your back foot it already makes your back knee align better with your ear. I hope this makes sense to you and I really cheer you to give it a try. Take care
That’s amazing!! Good for Tyshawn!!!
Pop is also about the forces you apply on the skateboard. Another tip I realized that can help is to think about is that you should start the pop motion once all of the force of your body is in the 'air' there is almost zero of your body weight on your skate and thats when you want to release the snap from your back foot. Logically before this you build up the pressure by squating and having most of body weight in the back foot.
This is amazing man! I'll give it a try as soon as I have a chance. Great video
Wow! That guy's Ollie is amazing!! 🤘
bro gatekeeping like crazy
I tried the scoop back when u pop, it was game changer, thanks local joe 🤝
It’s not that his foot is on the heel side of the board, but that he’s on his toes in the center tip of the tail. If his whole foot was on the board, his toes would be popping off the toe side edge of the board.
This dude is dope and another guy you should study is Reese Forbes. The dude practically revolutionized ollieing over high objects.
The first thing you noticed with his back foot placement. It's so that his big toe is at the center of the tale that's where you get the best pop. You don't want to try to do an ollie flat-footed you want the most pressure on the center of your big toe thus the foot placement. Moving on to your next thing that you noticed that you covered in this video he doesn't push the board back when he ollies no no no no no you only do that in a stationary ollie... he jumps ahead of the board when ollies and is that for height? nope it's not not at all in any way shape or form, that is for the distance he needs to cover during his height ollie. The last thing you noticed is the tucking of the back knee ,now that you're actually on to something there... that will definitely bring the back end of the skateboard up higher because you are tucking you are not jumping ....when you ollie your head virtually stays at the same height, you're bringing your lower body up that's what an ollie is... bringing your lower body up not jumping. I taught skateboarding at a skate camp for two summers and I was a pro skateboarder from 98 through 2003 have a great day everybody keep skating!💪🏻❤
Soon dis guy gonna have the consistency of nyjah, the style of Jamie foy, and the creativity of t funk
Keep it up bro!
Back foot placement is probably a torque/mechanical work thing. Small increase in length of effective lever and also length increase increases torque...aka more length leads to more force
thanx dude! gonna try that, as soon as it stops raining
Another tip is keeping your front foot STRAIGHT rather than curved towards the nose.
Sort of like the way a front foot looks like like in a switch Ollie
I tried that yesterday and it helped not only with higher pops but more control in my tres too
you could have totally gave us all the tips just saw you wanted people to support your patreon
I call it pullback pop in my head to rmb to do it haha
I think pulling back on your pop also makes sure the board stays straight VS if you try to pop completely straight down, if you’re not perfectly straight, the board will turn as if you scooped it slightly.
You can Ollie as high as the skateboard for anybody on the regular pop. Once you trust your board, you can go as high as you jump. I used to Ollie up to the tip of the board when it's vertical. I've gotten out of a small empty pool that was as high as the skateboard. I need to relearn but once you get this, you feel more control over your board. I used push down on the tail to heel side. Almost similar to this Ollie style. That tuck knee is also important.
With a kick flip it looks fresh when you do it 😊
Thank you for sharing man this is awesome u rock
Hey I think that he puts his back foot on the corner so he can use the flick of his ankle as much as possible without having to worry about whether or not the board moves to far back to catch it.
PROTIP: remove your back foot's sock and apply chapstick between your toes and put the shoe back on...... right after you pop count to 3 before landing. the higher you count the longer you will stay in the air thus the higher you will go.....this will work for nollie as well just alternate your chapstick foot accordingly... i wish i had learned this sooner.
What's the idea with the chapstick?
@@MrMargaretScratcher the chapstick helps with your toes flexing to the shape of the tail thru pops and scoops. You can substitute Margarine or WF-40 but you’ll have to count slower (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi….) because it’s much sloppier than chapstick. I’ve always just stuck chapstick. Everybody thinks it’s about the shoe and the grip but nobody talks about the most important part.. the main touch points between human and board. And that is the toes themselves.
Lube them toes up right 👌
@@funhaos i have to say, I'm skeptical!
@@MrMargaretScratcher I was skeptical as well. My buddy Charlie showed me back when we were just kids and all we had was mayo packets from the school cafeteria. We’d meet up and skate after school everyday. And with just a few squirts on his big toe and pinky toe and Charlie was popping the highest Ollies. He always left some mayo in the packet to share with us. Years later now much wiser I just use my chapstick. The viscosity is just better and you don’t need to worry about your grandma smelling your feet and getting suspicious.
Just remember the 3Cs to Ollie big
- Count
- Chapstick
- Cool Ollie Bro
@@funhaos Got it. Soaking my feet in a catering sized jar of Hellmans as we speak
To bring that back leg up with more efficiency try strengthening and strengthening your hip flexors. That should allow for easier mobility. Try it out.
Back foot. Think it’s actually putting pressure directly in the middle. Both ways, between truck and very end of the tail, and side to side.
And yeh def pop with slight roll backward, like ud do so forward for nollie and fakie.
But one thing I see everyone missing, after the pop the whole board raises inches vertically in the air before the front foot does anything; need to slow down and time the front foot tweak exactly when board reaches its highest point.
Some sick pointers here mate good work.
5 7.75 decks pro style was the most i ever got when i used to skate every day. 7 stacked intertwined. I could get onto most picknick tables without snagging my rear truck. Keep in mind though, that i could run and jump over a 6 ft wall without touching it at the time. So ollying 3-4 ft was definitely possible. Im 5'10 and was a very lean 135 lbs at the time as well.
I have been employing this technique since before I stumbled upon this video, helps to have an elevated surface rather than something you go over because the fear of falling isn't nearly as intense. I ollied up a 2 ft picnic table today, it's just above knee height on me and I'm 6'0.
yo that's sick!! I like how the physics can be applied. Growing up we all knew these things, passed around the knowledge at skate sessions, "yo put your foot back on the tail get that POP!!" "yo if you tuck your knees when you ollie, you get massive height" "yo lean forward a bit" this always followed with "what if I just melon grab it?" followed by "or christ air, yo what if you can airwalk...ayyy watch this airwalk" lol
I used to have really high ollies. I would put my feet pretty close to each other, and after popping I would just try to do a regular high jump and try to get my knees to touch my chest, sending your board to do a pop guarantee that your front foot would go first and your back foot after, so you don't really need to practice that front foot going forward move that is taught when learning to ollie, and because your feet are close to each other, it gives the board more room to get to a more vertical position when popping, so once your feet align with one another, the board is as high as it can be.
I love this video.
The ollie position makes a lot of sense.
You can actually train jumping ability as well. The maximum potential doesn't change obviously and some people (like NBA guys) probably have more than most people.
Jumping ability translates into higher ollies if your ollie technique is decent. I think it would be crazy to have skaters training for jumping with heavy weightlifting and plyometrics in a way that works.
Tyshawn is one of them guys who put in unbelievable amounts of work which builds skill/ raw attributes + the stars slightly aligning for him. Thought this was going to be a whack video but it’s a fair analysis on technique I think. thanks 🙏🏼
This is awesome! Thanks man you helped us out!
props for the breakdown, nice video
Salute this video is actually soild information
this is a really informative break down
Sounds good and I will try to implement tonight to see if it works for me. much appreciate
Pushing with the front foot also strengthens the calves which increases the height of ollies.
My big 3 to increase ollie height:
1. New board with lots of stiffness equals more pop;
2. New grip and New shoes helps the board stick like glue; and
3. The crouch - gotta' get real low and bring your knees way up after the pop to get maximum height for the Ollie. 🛹
Manz got hopz and that good scoop!
I always have to ollie over something or as I got older onto something! If I try to ollie without at least thinking about ollieing over something.
this happens to me sometimes in accident, now i know what happened lol thanks!
the reason why putting the back foot on the heel side creates so much pop is because when you pop, the power comes from your big toe, and when the big toe is in the very middle, you can get a ton more power out of it
Technique is important but so is your explosive power. Want to pop higher? Do exercises that help you jump higher.
I always complain that I have terrible pop and just assumed I have old, tired legs. Well, I guess I'll have to tweak my form. Solid vid!
Do you exercise regularly? Besides skating?
@@Dontbustthecrust Yeah, I hit the gym a few times a week. Between skating and the gym my legs are always exhausted, so I should honestly rest them more. I rarely feel fresh at the park.
@@SkylerThomas ah dang. Yeah rest days are important too brotha.
@@SkylerThomasgotta get that rest in to see progress, homie, take a week off from skating and exercising and come back and you’ll see the difference
I think the foot positioning is because you are simply popping your tail at the apex of the tail. when you have your foot fully on the tail, you might pop with the side of the tail.
basicly all your power goes to your toes, when popping, so you're better off putting your toes right in the middle of the tail ;-)
The back foot in that pocket gives you a shorter pop resulting in higher pop. I know this because I have my back foot in that pocket when I do an Ollie, back 180s, front 180s, and kick flips. Giving more pop.
So helpful, ty for research practice and sharing ♥
It's because placing the food in the konkave gives faster Pop. Also placing the front-food slighty at an angle, for me, gives more height.
I love this analysis. Gonna think about this at tomorrow's session. Gotta say though, the third tip is a hilarious piece of advice to give someone out of context. "Just touch your ear with your knee to ollie higher."
Popping back is so vital for me. Lately my best ollies come from when I think about popping back, then pushing the top of my front foot into the nose, to really let it swing up behind.
This is why I like nick trapasso's kickflips
You jumped that car like a pro bud no cap
the back foot should have the least amount on as possible to increase the force per sq. in. for greater pop..
and yes, lift your knees for maximum height.. practice by simply jumping onto things without a board to work on bringing them up.. like a picnic table- 1st the bench, then the table
Him and Spencer Barton should have an ollie contest.
you left the remaining seven tips in the video big frawg