Amazing. A nice method to build ribs... It is not so laborious, for a wooden rib, and is strong as hell... it is like having an empty C172 hanging from one rib! :) Thanks for sharing!
Your point on saving weight, about 17:30 in the video, and the negative affect extra weight has on the design load limits is something I wish I understood 30 years ago when I started building planes. a little extra block here or there to make it stronger I now know is completely unnecessary. I have built a Druine Turbulent and a GY201 Minicab, both wood airplanes. Like you, I did a load test on the wing. I placed the entire wing assembly mounted inverted on a jig where the fuselage supports would be. I then placed sheets of 1/8"- 4x8 ply onto the wing and loaded it up to 2.5g using bags of salt I borrowed from our local hardware store. The Turbulent wing deflected 2" at the tip with a 1600 pound load. The Minicab wing was much stronger and only deflected 5/8" with 2500 pounds load. Wood wing structures when built using the right glues are incredibly strong.
I love all the planes you built. I really enjoy and have learned much from you. Thanks for doing these videos. I look forward to seeing many more, in English please.
so etwas habe ich schon als zwoelfjaehriger Junge 1958 gebaut, als mein Vater mir einen Graupner Bausatz der ME 109 zu Weihnachten schenkte..Es war ein Fesselflugmodel, welches ueber duenne Stahldraehte ferngelenkt wurde..Ein Tornado Motor mit 20.000 Umdrehungen war der Antrieb . Ich haette schon damals Drohnen bauen koennen... im Wohnzimmer auf dem guten Wohnzimmertisch... Wer haette ahnen koennen, dass man mit Drohnen (Modellflugzeugen) Panzer ausschalten koennte?
Depends on the project and who will finally have the aircraft. Some of those I do work for ask for 2 part resins, others for Aerodux 185. Personally I use Ponal what seems apropriate for the project, but I have also done exhibiton pieces for museums using casein glue.
Yes. That is how the design is. The wrapped cap strip provides the means to stitch the fabric skin to it. It was common Fokker practice in fabric covered wings from the D.VI/D.VII onwards.
I will be rib stitching wings for a Fokker Dr1, only the area over the box spar will not allow for this. Could wrapping the cap strip over this section of the rib as you did for the D7 be considered an acceptible solution? Plans call for screws, but I would rather not because of moisture problems over time. Thanks for the video. It was very helpful.
In fact the ribs of the triplane were covered with a linen stripe that was glued to their sides and on top of the spar it was glued to the spar top left and right of the rib cap strip. So stitching across the spar is possible that way.
@orangestoneface 12 minutes ago (edited) or build a plane from old bike frames . or timber ..two by four frame or ...some way simpler construction just crude wood and plyplates as wings , in a strong simple way l guess not glue then ,maybe just test strenght of timbers by weight test in middle see if cracks , .. would it work for a few flies at least , fun vid for youtube safer to remote control with man weight sandbag in seat. or old plane wings on old car drive till lifts no propellerjk
Depends on the project and who will finally have the aircraft. Some of those I do work for ask for 2 part resins, others for Aerodux 185. Personally I use Ponal what seems apropriate for the project, but I have also done exhibiton pieces for museums using casein glue.
Для постройки этих самолетов не нужно много инструментов или станков. Ручная пила, множество напильников, молоток, гаечный ключ, отвертка, токарный станок, ленточная пила, несколько рубанков, кузница, колонковый бур, фрезерный станок для металла и один для дерева..... Эти рубанки технически не очень сложны. Многое было сделано вручную.
As it says in the beginning of the Video. In This case Fokker C.1 or D.VII respectively, but the design and construction is that of any Fokker plane since the D.VI.
You can´t use sand paper to sand surfaces you want to glue,that is true. The dust would close up the cut in half wood cells. But you can use sand paper to break the corners and to remove the fuzzy thingies along the edges. And that is what I do here.
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Fascinating work and I will echo the request for more videos with the English dub.
Amazing. A nice method to build ribs... It is not so laborious, for a wooden rib, and is strong as hell... it is like having an empty C172 hanging from one rib! :) Thanks for sharing!
Your point on saving weight, about 17:30 in the video, and the negative affect extra weight has on the design load limits is something I wish I understood 30 years ago when I started building planes. a little extra block here or there to make it stronger I now know is completely unnecessary. I have built a Druine Turbulent and a GY201 Minicab, both wood airplanes. Like you, I did a load test on the wing. I placed the entire wing assembly mounted inverted on a jig where the fuselage supports would be. I then placed sheets of 1/8"- 4x8 ply onto the wing and loaded it up to 2.5g using bags of salt I borrowed from our local hardware store. The Turbulent wing deflected 2" at the tip with a 1600 pound load. The Minicab wing was much stronger and only deflected 5/8" with 2500 pounds load. Wood wing structures when built using the right glues are incredibly strong.
Exactly. Wood is one of the best materials for this purpose and easy to get hold of and to work with..
I love all the planes you built. I really enjoy and have learned much from you. Thanks for doing these videos. I look forward to seeing many more, in English please.
Great attention to detail. Love those old warbirds.
Great job. Didn’t realize so much work was required to make a rib
Excelente trabajo maestro.hare una cj3 Piper cob original con estas técnicas gracias por compartir tus conocimientos
Very informative. A number of good insights. Thank you for this.
Cool channel.Great job! Durability of the rib is amazing. How weight is it?
Excelente me gustaria que este en spanish mis felicitaciones
so etwas habe ich schon als zwoelfjaehriger Junge 1958 gebaut, als mein Vater mir einen Graupner Bausatz der ME 109 zu Weihnachten schenkte..Es war ein Fesselflugmodel, welches ueber duenne Stahldraehte ferngelenkt wurde..Ein Tornado Motor mit 20.000 Umdrehungen war der Antrieb . Ich haette schon damals Drohnen bauen koennen... im Wohnzimmer auf dem guten Wohnzimmertisch... Wer haette ahnen koennen, dass man mit Drohnen (Modellflugzeugen) Panzer ausschalten koennte?
Nice work
Dear Achim,
What kind of glue do you use for wood
Depends on the project and who will finally have the aircraft. Some of those I do work for ask for 2 part resins, others for Aerodux 185. Personally I use Ponal what seems apropriate for the project, but I have also done exhibiton pieces for museums using casein glue.
Is the builder gluing one plain cap strip to one side of the rib and another cap strip wrapped in fabric to the other side of the rib?
Yes. That is how the design is. The wrapped cap strip provides the means to stitch the fabric skin to it. It was common Fokker practice in fabric covered wings from the D.VI/D.VII onwards.
I will be rib stitching wings for a Fokker Dr1, only the area over the box spar will not allow for this. Could wrapping the cap strip over this section of the rib as you did for the D7 be considered an acceptible solution? Plans call for screws, but I would rather not because of moisture problems over time.
Thanks for the video. It was very helpful.
Have you solved your stitching problem?
In fact the ribs of the triplane were covered with a linen stripe that was glued to their sides and on top of the spar it was glued to the spar top left and right of the rib cap strip. So stitching across the spar is possible that way.
What glue are you using? Beautiful craftsmanship!
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How heavy Is the whole wing when complete with fabric
About 80 kg for the top wing.
@orangestoneface
12 minutes ago (edited)
or build a plane from old bike frames . or timber ..two by four frame or ...some way simpler construction just crude wood and plyplates as wings , in a strong simple way l guess not glue then ,maybe just test strenght of timbers by weight test in middle see if cracks , .. would it work for a few flies at least , fun vid for youtube safer to remote control with man weight sandbag in seat. or old plane wings on old car drive till lifts no propellerjk
Not really sure, what it is you are saying....fun comment for a video, though.
@@AchimEngels build a plane from old bike frames . was the first idea ...but aluminum is hard to weld strongly or dunno , so chromoly maybe steel .
What type of glue are you using, Achim?
Depends on the project and who will finally have the aircraft. Some of those I do work for ask for 2 part resins, others for Aerodux 185. Personally I use Ponal what seems apropriate for the project, but I have also done exhibiton pieces for museums using casein glue.
Good to hear from you Achim. I hope you are keeping well!
Доброго вам дня! Можете ли вы снять обзор инструментов которые вы используете?
Для постройки этих самолетов не нужно много инструментов или станков. Ручная пила, множество напильников, молоток, гаечный ключ, отвертка, токарный станок, ленточная пила, несколько рубанков, кузница, колонковый бур, фрезерный станок для металла и один для дерева..... Эти рубанки технически не очень сложны. Многое было сделано вручную.
Хотите повторить ? :)
@@AchimEngels Вы владеете русским?
@@ВалентинПодольхов Да, я просто помешан на летательных аппаратах. С детства занимался авиамоделизмом
What aircraft?
As it says in the beginning of the Video. In This case Fokker C.1 or D.VII respectively, but the design and construction is that of any Fokker plane since the D.VI.
А какой клей вы используете?
Здесь используется только то, что применялось в то время. Для работ по дереву - казеиновый клей.
(Автоматический перевод - надеюсь, он подходит).
@@AchimEngels The translation is perfect, thank you very much for the video!
but you cant use sand paper bro
You can´t use sand paper to sand surfaces you want to glue,that is true. The dust would close up the cut in half wood cells. But you can use sand paper to break the corners and to remove the fuzzy thingies along the edges. And that is what I do here.
The Magnificent Adamic-man, the Christian Race
...
Cush (Greek: Ethiopia), means sun-burnt
Phoenicians described by the Greeks, as fair-haired, fair-skinned people
Persia means Lord of the Aryans now renamed IRAN
Zimbabwe once known as Rhodesia
Chicongo once known as Chicago
...
12 Tribes passed through the Caucasus Mountains
(i)ssac's Sons / Saxons / Anglo-Saxons / Europe / Australia / New Zealand / North America / Christian First World / We the People
Gott Mit Uns