Building Spruce Bi-Planes WW1..1918 cool Film
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- This is how it was done. From cutting the trees to curing the wood to test flying the finished plane on the battlefield. It was an incredible time consuming and accurate process. If you have never seen how it was done you need to watch this.
The original was silent, with the reels sound click, click, click...
I added a sound track to give it a little pizazz.
This is the sort of arcane video that keeps me logging into UA-cam, but, gotta say, if they had piped this music into the factories, we would have lost the war.
at the time it would have been the in thing. jazz is from then.
@@lukewarmwater6412 At the time it was ragtime. This would've never made it.
I just climbed a tree and jumped... I could not take the music...
@@Angelum_Band and ragtime is?
@@alanmartinez488 You didn't jump correctly. Try again.
The progress achieved in the first 50 years of flight is truly amazing!
Wow! I don’t know why I’m surprised at the scientific process they were using to test for wood quality, strength and density! This is a great early documentary!
Having built 9 airplanes, most wood with fabric over, I can sure appreciate all the hard work these (mostly ladies) are doing. I am sure glad I had heat-shrink Dacron for the wing and fuselage covering! But the wings are stitched with the same knot, a bit closer spacing. I think most of my stitches were on 1.5" spacing, with 1" in the prop wash area.
Loved using that beautiful aircraft grade spruce! Marvelous wood, to be sure.
You sure did pick weird music for the sound track! Thanks for posting the film.
Look at the size of those trees in the beginning. Long gone now. I found the wing ribs interesting & especially the quote how an aircraft is held up through suction, not pressure, requiring the stitching. My one & only kit plane experience had that replaced with special headed rivets into the top of the wing ribs holding the fabric down. Of course, the wing ribs were aluminum, though.
Very funky music.
I actually lime the music.
@@markosterman419 I lemon the music
A real treat! It's great to see the disciplined and coordinated effort of a better generation, as well as some great process engineering! I loved this! Thanks so much.
Great historical film, but thank god for a mute button.
Yeah I was looking for the OOMPA LOOMPAS.
I dig it...must be Ornette Coleman. Music is 50 years newer than the film.
Sissies. It took me almost a whole minute to hit the mute button. Interesting video though. If this was filmed in 1918 it was just about near the end of WW1 (November 1918) and we were in the midst of the great influenza pandemic (January 1918 to late 1920) I wonder how many of these people were working with/spreading the flu? In those days if you didn't work you didn't get paid.
I agree. But I have always hated jazz
I absolutely agree in both cases, both about the mute button, and as a great video. Terrible choice of background music.
In 100 yearw people will view what we are doing today as primitive and dangerous. These people were heroes of their time, doing diligent service. I love and admire my graneparents.
Absolutely terrible music. Mute button works great.
At least he didn't play Rap. Rap is absolutely the worst garbage EVER!
@@Zomby1Woof I could not agree more! I have to listen to this "CRAP" every time I drive a party bus or a limo, Makes me want to upchuck really bad!
@@stevethecountrycook1227 're Havilland comer racers
The video is great, the background music really sucks. I muted it.
Hell, it has to be muted or it will drive sane people to commit insane acts of violence. Imagine what would happen to a person if forced to listen to 47 minutes of that God Damned crap.
Wonderful to see the exquisite hand craftsmanship that went into building those early planes! Although there was a lot of mechanization as well. A fascinating look at an early aircraft factory.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. The incredible work that went into those planes is just amazing. As a career woodworker, this is just great to see the spruce being shaped and joined. Also the propellers. That is so interesting to see all the handwork being done.
And yes, I muted it quickly, and had to stop and go back for all the captions. But still, I loved it.
Music was putrid ....
A well presented documentary of how aircraft were produced. The details of the processes involved... Wow. The accompanying music is esoteric, yes. Thank you for this!
Great Video...I hit the mute button and listened to Sinatra on Sirius XM radio! Thanks for posting this. I used to scratch build large RC models. Nice to see how the "full scale" were made in detail Back in "The Day"! My Grandfather was in WW-1.
Amazing amazing footage! I played at .75 speed. And muted audio.
Everything they did in this crafting factory is/was amazing. These men and women. I don't even think our precise factories of today are as good as this. These people had a freedom we don't have today, yet they were indentured slaves. Working for pennies on the hour.. Not having half the luxuries we have today. And they have all died, and have passed away. Remember, watching at .75 is better. Although you could try .50. And you can stop for the reads of the text. Such an interesting video, and I had fun watching it! I feel sorry for all these people. ❤️✔️
excellent Idea worked Great at 75 % even the so called music was almost bearable
fabulous film, and great music choice, very effective. also, to anyone reading this - please pay close attention to the size of the trees and have a think about that.
Still processing the fact of two men sawing down a big ass tree with a handsaw.. Great video!
The two-man saw (ever use one?) is a substantial improvement over the axe. The felling technique, with a notch and with wedges, is similar to what we now do with a chainsaw.
Along with that were all those people putting every single screw in by hand. No electric screwdrivers or automation. That had to make for a very LONG day at the factory. At least they didn't have to hand-twist them in with those Yankee screwdrivers. Whew!
Fantastic video with historic value, with complete production overview !!! But please, ask someone to rework the short texts and the music that does not fit the subject.
The making of the propellers is amazing!
Is this the music that started WW1 ?
The funniest reply in the thread..😅
Just a few minutes of that bullshit just about drove me to senseless violence.
This is the music that made the Hun surrender.
used as a torture device on prisoners.
No, this what the losers had to listen to, so they went out and started WWII.
I loved this wonderfully interactive art film and the historic content is amazing. It is also great to see precision fabrication without the use of DRO equipment. Thank you for the thrilling entertainment and the edifying exposition!
I'm watching this as I wait for some glue to set on a sixth scale RC model biplane I'm building. It's a bit later than WW1 (a Havilland DH 60 from around 1930) but the techniques I'm using are not so different from this although I didn't have to fell the trees first!
This is a brilliant find and interesting to watch. Thank you
I imagine this music was from a Norwegian death metal band that was trying their hand at jazz.
Russian smooth jazz
@@BAZZAROU812 Death metal killed the video and my ears.
huh, i never heard any music just noise
BWAHAHAHA
Wholly Friggin Crap, That was PERFECT!
ROTFLMAO
Di diddy di say suwow \m/ \m/
More research and dialogue with a new sound score. The footage is fantastic. Nice to look at the past. thanks.
The film is tedious without any sound track. For me, personally, I like the added audio. It’s different. I love seeing how much glue was used, and the lamination, steam bending, etc. Hardly a bolt or wrench in sight. Many of the guys wearing neckties while doing shop floor work. A different era, with work ethic driven by pride and personal satisfaction rather than union work rules.
Clearly you know nothing about unions, or companies that needed
unions. Tell me, did you ever work in a factory where they split your
shift into two or three segments?
Your turn.
@kitcox
I did have my shifts split. With the blessing of the Teamsters, I must add.
@@KitCox
No way would I ever have anything to do with a labor union. I prefer to demonstrate my worth to my employer based on my performance, not by throwing in with a group of extortionists. I know what I’m worth and if the employer doesn’t appreciate me, I can move on. When I was a 14 year old kid working in a supermarket, making 75¢ an hour, for 15 hours a week, I was obliged to pay union dues. Thanks for nothin’.
I loved the progressive music. Great arrangement for all to view by. We as pilots should hit our knees and pray for these fine people that built aircraft. What a wonderful find and sharing this film with the viewing public. I wish I was on the assembly line helping them.
That was amazing to watch, I didn't realize there were so many women working in factories back then. The only African Americans I could see were working in the food service area.
I was impressed by the sheer volume of people involved in the manufacture one airplane, also hand saws were used to fell massive trees. The look on the people's faces as they were being filmed going into the cafeteria was entertaining also. No one cared about Personal Protection Equipment back then it seems.
I noticed there were power poles but probably not much of the country had electricity back then.
The guy filming the airplanes with his hand-cranked camera made me laugh. I did feel a little melancholy after I realized everyone in the film has passed.
Music makes me want to commit hairy Krishna, or possibly hairy Houdini ( and yes I spelled " hairy" correctly). A clarinet and bongo drums is a terrible thing to waste.
I enjoyed the music and I am talented enough to be able to stop frame quickly enough to read the text. Fun. Excellent video and I enjoyed seeing production from start to finish. Unsettling to know that all of these souls, men and woman are no longer with us. Let alone the destruction to life and limb when these war beasts flew over. Thanks.
Things I will remember: the pleasure on the face of the profile checker on the prop blades; The woodworker chiselling the rough bit near the propellor boss; the superb pieces of art -the finish of those wooden airscrews as they placed them on the prop shaft; the total lack of safety cages around machinery-the women by the spinning belts and the smoothing of the prop blades by eye(!) with that long long belt. What a film!
When aircraft were hand made using non powered tools and elbow grease. Amazing footage
I saw plenty of powered tooling, there. F'rinstance, two guys manhandling some template shaping setups. But I know watcha mean.
@@leehaelters6182 quite a lot of belt driven power tools. And did you notice the attire, men wearing ties and women wearing long dresses.
@@donniebrown2896, and compare the propeller making to this video:
Aircraft - Culver Props Shop Interview Alaina Lewis!
Experimental Aircraft Channel
Nothing different!
That was cool film the music was a bit strange it’s amazing how fast they built those buildings and infrastructure and a lot of it still stands
Thanks for your posts
The music reminds me of MIles Davis, am I the only one that liked the music? Great video!
I thought it was cool too. I was thinking Captain Beefhart though. Same kinda groove.
I agree. I wish I knew what and who it was. I'd buy it.
@@popeyeman69 Chenrezig - Don Cherry 1975
An amazing piece of history, thanks for posting it. I can't believe the number of people who are whining about the captions and the music. Someone has gone to the trouble of uploading this and all they get is complaints and criticism. If they can't work out how to use the mute button or to go back a few seconds then pause to read the caption, then its a good thing that they weren't responsible for aircraft construction.
music is FANTASTIC!!!!! Fits well ... jungle jazz!!!!! Thanks!!!
I didn't know they had music like this in 1918. I like it!
Dubbed how to build your flying wooden pallet and garden fans. It's incredible how people can create things out of the available materials and perfecting the construction process of machines.
Yep. To me just seeing the curing kilns they had back then. I worked on commissioning automated temperature/humidity control for timber drying kilns back in the 70's. Never realised how far back the basic technology went. And the application of QC/QA at every step was truly an eye opener. Respect. But: Wish I had thought of mute lol. Riveted.
Amazing craftsmen and women. Quality control was every step of the way. 👍
Notice that there is hardly an overweight or obese person among them.
@@3nasacova Yes, funny how people are so resistant to change and prefer to listen to those who deliver good news about their bad habits.
@@3nasacova except you're completely wrong. but nevermind the facts, eh. hearsay and anecdotal nothingness rules the day
Yeh , it's great what freedom and interference brings us.
Also noticed that!
No McDonalds
Who ever had the contract to make and supply those lemon squeezer hats made a fortune in WW1 .
Brilliant just that, I loved to watch How We Used To Live, but this is truly a video to watch and absorb. thank you for the posting, and thanks for no adds for 47 mins.
I really liked the background music. Very Miles Davis like super cool.
That shows skilled labor!
My grandfather was 18 in 1918. He was too young for WWI and too old for WWII. Died in 1963. Everyone in this film is gone.
I have tools from grandparents who were young adults during WWI, I recognize a couple tools from the "propeller" manufacture section
I can understand why most viewers didn't like the music that accompanied the film, the music wasn't bad it is just that it didn't really fit, way too random. Reminded me of Roland Kirk and his free form style of jazz. The film was amazing, especially after I visited the site of the Spruce mill in Vancouver Washington. Pretty amazing that army personnel were assigned as lumber jacks, mill workers and many other positions. At one time the mill was producing one million board ft. of lumber each day supplying spruce wood for most of the allied aircraft during the First World War. After the war the mill was torn down and all but the locals remembered it ever existing. If you get a chance go to Pearson Airfield at Vancouver National Park, some amazing history there.
Disregard the naysayers! I live in Washington State, where pot is legal, and I *LOVE* the jazz bg!! Really amazing footage, too, consider me subbed!
Imagine working as a logger or sawmill operator during this era. The changes to come in only a few decades in the lumber industry was huge too. 30 years later airplanes were no longer wood airframes and air speeds were more than double what they were for WWI The speed of technology advancement was seemingly faster than anything else.
Ignore the negative comments about the music ... I thought it was great. What was it?
I'm halfway through a book about the origins of American's aerospace industry. "Barrons of the Sky" by Wayne Biddle. He talks about aircraft production in the US in support of the war in Europe. The US went from virtually no aircraft industry to 20k+/year production between 1916 and 1919 ... but almost none of the US designed aircraft made it to the war before it was over.
LOVE the music...goes perfectly with the vid...old and new together!
Yep. Gonna track it down.
Great video. If you could, please leave text on screen longer, it would be appreciated. Thanks for posting.
I know, on the original it seems like the captions were up long enough to read three times, but you cut them WAY to short.
Cherry and spruce - what a great combination - don't know where this looped version came from but you can hear "Chenrezig" on Don Cherry's 1975 album "Brown Rice"
Thank you for posting this fascinating documentary. As others have stated, the music selection could have been more appropriate to the content, but I am grateful that you made the effort to present it here.
I can't even figure out what genre of music it belongs to, let alone what era....
@@HighlanderNorth1 it's jazz
ALL manufacturing of that era shows excellent workmanship. An example is the machining that went into a 1903 Springfield rifle. No modern manufacturer dares put out a product that is comparable even with CNC machining centers. The cost would be prohibitive.
Years ago I built a 1/3 scale model of a 1918 Sopwith Pup. Quite a few of the pieces and assembly processes are similar.
Some one that knows something about AIRCRAFT, Pup was a great A/C and are still flying today, with a ROTORY ENGINE.
This video is a treasure for documenting early aircraft manufacturing.
Great film and thanks for uploading. Interesting to observe the incredible dependency on manual labour and the comparatively non-existent OH&S back then. Times have certainly changed. As a woodworker and a pilot this is fascinating - the propeller shaping machine for one. Wow.
So the music isn't to everyone's taste (including mine) but that's cool - can't please everyone. What I am seeing is a lot of entitled complaints with little gratitude - another sign of the times sadly. When someone has gone to the trouble of putting content like this up for our benefit, surely the first response should be of gratitude, yes?? ...and pausing the vid is not such a hard concept to grasp for the brief captions... :-)
Cheers and thanks from Sydney, Aust - Dave
This is a movie about tens of thousands of very talented people working like the devil to convert the irreplaceable resources of a continent in to more and more exquisite weapons. Nothing new here, but it fascinating watching society, always led by the very rich, and always completely built by workers, doing whatever it takes to expand "our interests" into other workers lands while those "other" workers do the same.
"Irreplaceable resources?" Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha
@@miata149 Your comfy with destruction? Such a fool.
*You're @@jeffmoore9487
X^D I muted this video and YT'd "silent movie incidental music" and played that in another tab. MUCH better!
Great idea!
Awesome video, love the jazz, set the mood for the first apocalypse
What annoyed me immensely and irritated enough to make me give up watching after only 7 minutes were those captions. EITHER edit them out completely OR leave them up long enough to be read. If they weren’t there I wouldn’t have missed them but because they were there then my OCD compels me to read them. I bet there are a fair few like me.
Iain Botham
I can only backtrack 15 seconds on the app, and then it’s not easy to catch and stop it just right. May be easier on a laptop but I found it quite hard on the tablet.
Incredible, thank you for sharing this video, very cool…the pilots who flew these machine had lotta guts..
Interesting to consider that the sons and daughters of these fine skilful people may have built B29s twenty five years later...
When I first became a pastor in the 1980s, there was an elderly woman in the congregation who had worked in the Bristol factory in England during World War 1. She had photographs of herself stitching fabric onto what I took to be a Bristol Fighter.
That music works great! What is it - 50's avant garde jazz? Who's the artist?
I've done a little bit of this during my A&P courses at Parks College in 1964. That's when they were still covering a few airplanes with dope and fabric. The rib stitching and spar splices sure looked familiar. It brought back a lot of memories. Thanks for a great video.
I got news for you. Airplanes are still being built that way
@@sblack48 Not really enough to brag about. Mostly homebuilt or from Mom and pop tiny aircraft factories.
Even the Cub is carbon fiber these days although it looks similar.
I don't even think you can buy nitrate dope anymore. It was being replaced in the 60's by less toxic versions.
@@tenlittleindians the carbon cub has some parts made of carbon but the wing tail and fuselage are all still covered the old way except with ceconite instead of cotton. Maybe not in huge numbers but Pitts, Huskies, all manner of Cubs, Wacos and others I can’t think of, not to mention many homebuilts. And literally hundreds of homebuilts and production aircraft are recovered every year to keep them airworthy
@@sblack48 None of them use linen and none of them use nitrate dope.
I have an Avid Flyer and a Kolb. Both are rag wing but they are similar but not the same in the covering process.
@@tenlittleindians no they use ceconite and butrate or similar. Who cares. It’s exactly the same technique and the end result looks identical. You can harp on little details but you’re just being tedious. Still rag and tube airplanes
The video is really great ...but the music is down-right stupid!
Also leave the captions on long enough to read without having to continuously pause.
The nusivmc might be very cool to listen to on the wee hours of the morning at about iutdoorcjazz festival. But here it obly ruins someone else's well thought-out, beautifully shot ilm. Pirtful to spoil another's work as you have. Shame!!
I thought yeah sounds cool . Then It starts off with trees being slaughtered , mutilated , dragged through the mud , dissected hacked up all of this as it still lives and breaths , and this remorseless onslaught accompanied by an anti-jazz devil worship monstrosity . Your next video should be "making a hamburger from scratch" (first you shoot the steer in the head with a bolt) this ghastly soundtrack will fit perfect there
As for me, I LIKE the music!
@@Slithey7433 Bizarrely I've been listening to Gong ( space jazz ) while watching this on mute. Only near the end did I look at the comments and check the music out. Almost a perfect fit! Each to their own though.
That engine into a wood frame!!😳
Water cooled!!!😳😳
Wow,copy mashinetools!..this movie is an amazing historical document!
👍💕thanks
Killer soundtrack...
A real insight into aircraft construction in the very early days of military aviation,the crowded factory working conditions and hand crafted parts made by skilled workmen and lots of female labour,no regard for safety back then with whirling propellers and people everywhere,probably one of the best that I have personally seen.
Amazing how a good number of the men doing physical labor jobs were wearing nice shirts and ties.
And today who actually wears shoes that can be polished?
good film. loved the music.
The written script rocketed by. Couldn't find half of them when paused. I gave up.
Yeah way too short of time on the descriptions. If you hit pause and then use the lesser than and more than symbols keys you can go frame by frame.
The sound track is fantastic. Forget the haters. The video is amazing. I built models, a wood ultra-light framed up just like these planes, and a metal biplane.
Somehow I found the included soundtrack perfect for this amazing film. Who are the musicians? Thanks for both. I'm a woodworker and this was mesmerizing.
title: Q&A on God album: Suicide Note group: Lucifer
totally agree. It's the rhythm of production.
@@jeaneitelman5699 yet it's astounding how many people fail to feel it
@@daos3300 to Da os, the film is sped up around 1.5 so already its not a "documentary." If all these people who just don't get it are really that interested in how a WW1 biplane is made, go find out. I looked at this as a good piece of film art.
Also really like the music, would like to know who composed it.
For those of us that look at aviation history to today, this is an excellent video A+++
About 90% of the info contained here was lost because there was not enough time to read captions. Please re-edit this and provide enough time to read the captions!
You can slow the video thereby allowing you to see the captions. I slowed it to 50% in the viewer (an option). I then paused the video to read the caption.
there is a pause button. its what i did. :P
Paul Max
so cool that this film survived so we can see it today, and play/pause/rewind at our leisure with just the click of a mouse or tap of a finger.
Very cool to see the production process. I like the music. What a bunch of whiners about the music and having to make the effort to pause. Life is so difficult!
super quality for a 100 year old film, people back then can read a lot faster than me.
remember j k l on keyboard - k will start/stop so you can read the titles...
All these folks just going about their day, a day like the one before & the one after, the camera just happening to catch them on this particular day. Quickly forgetting about this event, living their lives and fading away. And here we are, a hundred years later looking at them on everyday technology they could never of imagined.
Love the video .... but the music ... why ... really why that ? ? ? ? we actually ended truly watching a silent movie ... that music was sickly torturous .
Disagree. It’s a refreshingly different musical accompaniment to a soundless film.
@@Slithey7433 Disagree, with respect, to your disagreement. Silent movies very early on had live music scored to the action on the screen. Granted some of the scores worked better than others but the goal was to have the music paced to the film. I muted out most of the film and I agree that an accompaniment is called for...but I cannot conceive that any worse accompaniment could be found. There are many UA-cam videos that are silent (high speed clips especially) and the creators manage to do a pretty good to amazing jobs in selecting sound that moves the work along.
probably because of youtubes music policy now. this tune must have been royalty free.
@@dacoutch Apparently it must also be "enjoyment free"
John Manning - To each his own.
Wow…what a gem of a video! 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video. But the music sounds like someone beating a Gregorian Monk to death with a bagpipe.
How many times in this life have i need your Description, and not just for various bits of wannabe "music", Hahahha..totally stealin it.... 'someone beating a Gregorian Monk to death with a bagpipe' Come to think of it, pretty damn good description for 2020 in general, hahaha !
Fantastic video quality for 1918. I’m amazed it survived.
What's the title and who is the artist? I like the music.
My father had health problems so he was 4F and built airplane engines the entire war. 1942-45. That's why I'm a 1943 model.
So beautiful handcrafted skill to kill so many 😪
Amazing video, no robots, but chewing gum was there with the welder guy on the exhaust 😂
Was the weldor actually using a welder?
Agree with Sir Thornton. We used to celebrate Armistice Day, November 11, as a nation, and wear the Poppy on our collars like they still do in Canada and parts of Europe. We don't celebrate that specific event, which ended the Great War, and remember the fallen WWI soldiers specifically, any longer. I think that is an embarrassment. But good luck remembering that war even though it has been only 100 years, when we can't even get the TV News to mention Pearl Harbor on Pearl Harbor Day anymore.
@centerice The TV news is too busy featuring PC and their liberal agenda to worry much about Pearl Harbor day.
Granted, the music is odd for the documentary, but it IS tribal and transcendent, appropriate for man's ongoing struggle to get along with himself. I didn't mute the track.
At last, the lost Captain Beefheart sessions !
Such a good film but choice of music is dire!
I particularly enjoyed seeing how the prop was so finally balanced that a breath on one blade caused an asymmetric condition.
Really fascinating look at aircraft production from growing in the forest to flying! I would have liked the titles to be long enough to read, but the visual content outweighed the need to stop and read! However, the sound track was nothing short of horrible! Silence would have been far superior!
Just imagine ...delivering a mustang to them....It would be stripped down in hours and production flat out within a month. wonderful video thankyou
Major problems. So called music was disgraceful and I couldn't read the damned text. Video itself was great but you need to fix those two screw ups.
I'd beat the shit out of him for that God Damned noise alone.
wonderfully authentic film please may we have more.
I LIKED the music......thought it was rather haunting
It's a shame most of the text has been cut out.
CUT OUT?? Are you kidding? What a screw-up! RE-make it!
I think the music was very pleasant to listen to.
Jeez. There's always that one person with a positive attitude.
Well I enjoyed the music, and very interesting video.
Also really like the music, would like to know who composed it.
The size of that complex was incredible for 1918!
Really interesting video, thank you for uploading. Superb music (tough shit for all those know nothing lovers of all types of children's music); who do we have to thank for it ?
Indeed! I am reminded of several years ago when I was attending speed reading class....