Perfumery: Variations on the Grojsman accord

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  • Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:21 - Writing the ideas down
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 40

  • @earthlingbrightstar
    @earthlingbrightstar Рік тому +1

    🎉excellent and valuable insights for beginners like me. Thanks Sam for the effort that you put in

  • @wilberfrontado6996
    @wilberfrontado6996 Рік тому

    Me encantas tus videos, me sirven de inspiración y he aprendido muchas cosas.

  • @primaryodors
    @primaryodors 2 роки тому +3

    Grojsman accord goes great with benzoin, vanilla, a little vetiver, a rose-peony heart, and a waxy note (I used rice flower shea but I dunno maybe orris would be just as good, never used it), and then a top note with coconut, aldehyde MNA, and a touch of lemon. The florals and coconut that I used were crummy fragrance oils and it still turned out great, can also use phenethyl alcohol to get the rose note.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +2

      Some nice ideas there :)

  • @JayYoungblood369
    @JayYoungblood369 10 місяців тому +2

    I noticed that you replace the ISO for Velvione when you had originally wrote to replace the galaxolide. Did you end up catching that?

  • @JayMannStuff
    @JayMannStuff 2 роки тому +4

    Awesome video, Sam! Loved it. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your next video.
    Definitely interesting on how these variations turned out. (Please let me know how a variation of the Grosjman Accord, using the musk Cashmeran turns out, even if you don't make a video on it. I'm still trying to get ahold of some Alpha Isomethyl Ionone. Only one site sells it here, and paying shipping for just one material isn't really worth it. So I'll probably buy some in my next large order.)
    Maybe as a future video, you could do a sort of Community Collaboration video, where your subscribers submit their best 6-ingredients-or-less accords made from common perfumery ingredients. Would be nice to see a large variety of accords by different members of the community. :)

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers Jay. Yeah I can try and let you know what it's like with Cashmeran. Yeah I wouldn't say it's worth making the whole order just for the ionone, you could substitute it for a different one for now. And yeah I think that sounds like a great idea for a video, I would be happy to try that sometime...

    • @JayMannStuff
      @JayMannStuff 2 роки тому

      @@sammacer Yeah, I only got Alpha Ionone Couer. Got the wrong one by mistake. :/ Doesn't have the right scent profile. Too sweet and powdery, compared to Alpha Isomethyl Ionone which is more Violet Leaf-like and Ozonic.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      @@JayMannStuff Hmm I wouldn't say it's ozonic. I think all ionones are violety. And yeah I think all the different ionone names are confusing

    • @JayMannStuff
      @JayMannStuff 2 роки тому

      @@sammacer Absolutely agree with you on that one. And how perfumery aldehydes aren't always aldehydes. Material names in perfumery is definitely not one of the nicest aspects of this hobby.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      @@JayMannStuff Yeah lol

  • @FaRMaXiMuS
    @FaRMaXiMuS 4 місяці тому

    I´ve made my variation with dihydro ionone beta instead of regular ionone beta, for me it smells pretty more masculine

  • @Decantankerous
    @Decantankerous 2 роки тому +1

    Hi! I just discovered your channel. I'm not going to try perfumery firsthand but I'm furiously curios so I'm happy I found it 🙂 I was trying to understand if the chestnut in a perfume can be natural, extracted in some ways, or if it's always an accord. Or if maybe it's purely synthetic... and in some way I stumbled here. Can I ask if is there, to your knowledge, some kind of "list" of the most used accords with notes that can create them? Thanks a lot!

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      Hey. I'm not aware of any chestnut raw materials in perfumery so most likely it would be an accord. There's no such list to my knowledge :)

    • @Decantankerous
      @Decantankerous 2 роки тому

      @@sammacer Thanks a lot for the answer, man! And again, awesome channel!

  • @maemariearienda.lozanes5552
    @maemariearienda.lozanes5552 2 роки тому

    Hi sir u doing great but plz use white board that way every body can easly undarstand thanx

  • @francisdominicpresto2059
    @francisdominicpresto2059 2 роки тому

    How many Grojsman variations are there? If this is Sophia's version for Tresor, the others what are they? Are there more than two? Just curious... Hope you won't mind if I ask.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      There are limitless variations as you could make whatever you want as a variation. I didn't find anything more specific when I did the research for this video though - it's not like the variations are 'official' or anything. And of course I don't mind you asking :)

  • @ronmiller7248
    @ronmiller7248 Рік тому

    Way too late but I'm wondering if just adding pink peppercorn to the tresor style would enhance the rose without adding rose givco?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Enhance is maybe not the right word, but combine well with; sure - the only way to find out is to test it!

  • @kamranhaider564
    @kamranhaider564 Рік тому

    Hello sir
    I want to create one perfume which I want base note is Oud agarwood and top note is floral I tired but failed can u suggest me

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  Рік тому

      Try again, perfumery is all about trial and error

  • @khaledal-habib777
    @khaledal-habib777 2 роки тому

    can i buy ready to use groomsman accord?

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      I’m sure somewhere will sell it but I don’t see the need since it’s so easy to make!

  • @001mhu
    @001mhu 2 роки тому +1

    any thoughts on making a discord server? (for chatting with like minded people and people interested in perfumery). ^_^

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому +1

      A couple of people asked about this in the past so for sure this is something I can do

  • @kevinverspoor4796
    @kevinverspoor4796 9 місяців тому

    all Ionones and Methyl Ionones can be masculine or feminine its very dependent on the materials you use with it.

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  9 місяців тому

      I would agree

  • @fellipebarros1
    @fellipebarros1 2 роки тому

    can you clear my doubt? with what substance can I dilute exaltoide total?

  • @superaak
    @superaak 2 роки тому +1

    In theory variations looks good. How satisfying are? they olfactoryly

    • @sammacer
      @sammacer  2 роки тому

      Did you check the second half of the video where I went over my thoughts?

    • @superaak
      @superaak 2 роки тому

      @@sammacer No not yet.

  • @catface101
    @catface101 2 роки тому

    You say "for sure" like 20 times