Haha I totally forgot about the scene much earlier of Doflamingo controlling the marines in chapter 234, I was only reminded in the comments of this video, but I had totally forgotten and just proves how crucial a re-read (or six) is.
I think Sabo popping up in Dressrosa worked better for people reading weekly, just because it had been a few years since Ace died so it felt less like we were immediately replacing him with a new brother. And the callbacks to stuff from absolutely ages ago always hit harder when you're reading in real time.
Just a bit of charisma and loyalty to our favorite characters and suddenly we overlook things like cannibalism which I think his character specifically has a history of.
@@Courier_Seven I think it has a different meaning in Japanese. Something about how to "eat" people also means to "mock" them in Japanese. Which is his second hobby, after being president of the Strawhat fanclub.
@@Courier_Seven it's actually cultural pun, being in his presence as he constntly mocks and aggravates you is being likened to feeling like he's eating you alive.
I guess it was the "Ancient" Egypt part I'm kind of craving with pharaohs and pyramids and tombs and things. I guess Alabasta did have one underground tomb thingy where the poneglyph was, but I didn't really feel the "Ancient" Egypt part of Alabasta as much as I'm getting the Ancient Rome of the gladiators and coliseum fights in Dressrosa, if that makes any sense
And then comparing Dress Rosa to Rome when Spain is RIGHT THERE LMFAO Edit: Like, the coliseum is maybe more like Rome, but pretty much everything else is based off Spain imo. Violet's dress, the food... Edit: Oop, it was eventually said
@@pauline_f328 Then again the colliseum is a mix of the roman colleseum with a bull place whatever it is named in english... even it's name is Corrida colliseum with the corrida being the name for the bull fights in spanish (corrida= a run)
"Did Usopp's development just go down the drain?" Considering his development began in Ennies Lobby when the crew went to save Robin, and when Sugar turned Robin into a toy, therefore removing his memories of the actions that inspired his growth... yes. Technically it did.
Running notes that I'll edit: - Gavin! You've already been to an island that's based on Egypt-- Alabasta! - Doflamingo and Dressrosa is what happens if Crocodile was successful in Alabasta! - The frame of Robin tied down by the Tontattas is a direct reference to the Liliputians capturing Gulliver in Gulliver's Travels. - Barto is us, the One Piece Fans! Lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-luffy senpai!!! - Doflamingo's control of other people was demonstrated in the beginning of Chapter 234. He was in that meeting with the Marines and was controlling those two Vice Admirals and making them draw their swords. - Bellamy's story is so tragic. He's chosen to devote his life to the wrong man. It's like watching a classmate fall into the wrong crowd, start going down "the pipeline". - Did you remember Koala? The little girl from the Fisher Tiger flashback? I think it's awesome she found her way to join Dragon and the Revolutionary Army. - A few others have mentioned this in comments, but Usopp developed his Sogeking persona as a direct result of wanting to rescue Robin. His actions at Enies Lobby were to save his crewmate. The moment Robin turned into a doll, all that development disappeared, Sogeking disappeared. Usopp is willing to fight his fear in order to save his crew, but once Robin disappears from his memory, it's just him, all alone, so he runs. But in spite of that, he came back! He battled his fears and won for his own goal to be a brave warrior of the sea. Courage isn't the absence of fear, and Usopp has to overcome so much more fear each time he acts, compared to the monster trio of Luffy/Zoro/Sanji, who are fearless. HAIL GOD USOPP! Personal Theory/Wishful Thinking: Usopp's last name hasn't been revealed. I think it would be lovely if his last name was Montblanc.
Haha I forgot Alabasta was kinda based off Egypt, I think it's the "Ancient Egypt" feeling I was missing as I would have loved pharaohs and tombs and mummies, like how Dressrosa has gladiators and coliseums and such. But you're right! Also Barto might be one of my new fav characters, I was ready to write him off to begin with but he won me over so hard haha. And ahhh thank you for reminding me of Doflamingo's powers and how they were seen earlier, I totally forgot about that scene! HAIL GOD USOPP!!
About that part of Usopp being a coward: Because Robin got turned into a toy, she was basically forgotten. And one of Usopp's biggest character development was during Enies Lobby. He found a spark of bravery in that arc because of their motivation to save Robin. So forgetting Robin takes away that part of him down the drain.
I had the same opinion about Sabo when he was first introduced but have over time become quite pleased with the introduction of him, especially with later arcs and also with reread/rewatch. I really liked this arc for the many twists and turns.
I loved Sabo just because it made Luffy so so sooo happy. Just Imagine you think your brother died as a kid and your other brother died in your arms. How happy would you be to find out that the frist brother was still alive. I was so happy for Luffy I cried.
Luffy will literally be on your side and fight kings and gods if you give him food and hospitality. It's great. I feel like this arc is finally the first actual test the Straw Hats is getting after the timeskip. Hody and Caesar can't even compare to Doffy. Hope you enjoy it.
Ok so first pardon how long this comment is going to be, I just have a ton of thoughts, and also I just wanna talk about Sabo. I wanna talk about other stuff in this arc too but I think this is just going to be my Sabo comment and I'll do a seperate comment on arc info and stuff. So ok wanna lead with it's perfectly fine to not like Sabo, if you ever worry about people being upset if you end up not liking him please don't. Everyone is free to have their own thoughts and feelings on characters, and I totally get not liking Sabo. But as someone who does like Sabo and adores the ASL brothers I do want to talk about him. To just give you the thoughts of someone who gets happy whenever they see Sabo on a page. Also again sorry for the length I just wanna take both our perspectives on this into consideration cause I know our experiences with One Piece are rather different. So I never had an issue wtih Sabo, I actually knew of him long before I meet him in story. Way back around 2012 I had Ace's death spoiled for me, long before I ever read Marine Ford last year. So I have had a very long time in which I knew Ace did not make it, so when I did eventually read the whole series I went in knowing that, and I personally didnt start getting supper attached to Ace himself till Marine Ford and Post War. My view on him prior was pretty much all coming from the view of, Luffy loves his brother, his death is going to really affect him. And by the time I came to care about Ace apart from Luffy he was already dead. So the introduction of an aditional brother did not bother me instead it made me rather happy. I know this was way different for you, that Ace is someone you adored dearly, and I do get this, I have my own character in One Piece that I'm like this with and I even indent to get a tattoo for. (Like you im also a widow) I completely get that Sabo blindsided you and after losing Ace you really wanted to just focus on him and not have a new character thrown into the mix. (I know you are aware of the hints towards a 3rd sibling but really those hints are so nothing that they dont really count until in retrospect. So I dont think those hints should be taken as a You should have seen this coming sort of thing at all) I knew of Sabo prior cause well I've been consuming manga and anime for a very long time and with series like One Piece I had seen countless images and gifs and such way before I would really tackle the series myself, so I knew a 3rd kid existed for a long time now. So whenI started Post War I went "OH I know this kid cool nice to finally meet him" And given the loss of Ace I was just also eatting up all the content of him as a kid and I was so glad that he had had someone else in his life that he loved and that loved him. That as a small child Ace wasnt totally alone. I love Post War, it's one of the few arcs I went to go watch in the anime because I wanted to see more content between Ace, Luffy and Sabo. I totally get having just lost Ace and not liking the sudden third sibling because it can very much feel like a replacement. But I dont think Sabo was/don't view him as that. Beyond their personalities being rather different there is also their roles in the story. Sabo in Post War served a lot of purpose * He gave us a nobel born character who rejected the corrupt and evil views of the people he grew up around, who was able to look at the way the nobels treated others and go this is wrong. We do have good royalty in the series like Vivi but Sabo was our first example of a nobel who was born into a bad household and chose to go against that * He was Ace's first friend. Sabo and Ace meet each other when they were just 5, that meant for the 5 years prior to Luffy showing up Ace wasnt alone. I really needed that, Ace had such a tragic and lonely childhood that knowing he wasnt all alone up till the age of 10 was a relief. Ace had such self worth and identiy issues, as well as sucidial tendencies that idk if he would have made it to 10 if he didnt have someone by his side. * He acted as the middle ground between Luffy and Ace. I really love the brothers dynamic, the way each of them play off each other was something I really enjoyed in Post War and given how hostile Ace was at the time you really needed a middle man who could help bridge the gap between Ace and Luffy as their bond formed. * He encoutnered Dragon and helped fuel Dragon's cause, showing him how the nobels of Goa are so corrupt they broke a child born amongst their ranks, making a child ashamed to have been born a nobel. * Sabo's death changed Luffy and Ace. Part 1/2
The loss of Sabo helped pushed Ace to be a better big brother and is also what gave us the scene of Luffy wanting to be stronger. To get a scene like that, where Luffy as a child desperately wanted to get stronger so he would never lose someone again, he had to suffer a loss. We needed someone to exist for Luffy to lose then. This plays into the whole series, in the pre time skip we see how protective Luffy is of his crew, how one by one he beats down the people who stand agaisnt them, blowing through the East Blue like a force of Nature that couldn't be stopped. And then during Post War we go from this young Luffy who wants to get stronger, to Luffy leaving Windmill Villiage calling out to his brothers, to Luffy broken and crying saying that he's so weak. I don't think the "I'm so weak" scene would have hit me nearly as hard as it did without Sabo. Oda showing us that since he was a child Luffy wanted to get stronger, not just cause of some generic little kid think like "imma be the strongest" but because "I wanna be strong enough so I dont lose someone I care about ever again." Luffy wanted to be strong enough so he would never lose anything again. And then he lost Ace. For that line to exist Luffy had to lose someone as a kid. As for Sabo being alive and not dead, well one you kinda just woudn't keep him dead. Story wise, expecially in manga, you wouldnt introduce a character the way you did Sabo, kill them off screen, then keep them dead. Cause it would mostly be a waste of a character, to introduce a new rather big character into the story and only keep them around for such a short time. Also I would suggest checking out chapter 589 if you have the time, I wont say more cause idk if you would consider this a spoiler or not. Then back during Punk Hazard we see an image of Ace and Whitebeards graves, Ace's grave has the newspaper of Luffy's return on it as well as 3 sake cup and a bottle in front of it. Sabo is the only one that would know about their promise that would have visited the grave since obviously Luffy didn't. So this was another hint of his return. Then yes at the end of 731 it is rather clear it's Sabo. Im assuming you were mostly in denail about it being him since you werent a fan of his inclusion in Post War. XD But again the three sake cups, which again would and could only be Sabo. Also I would suggest reading the last two pages of 731 again. I think it would help with some of your questions you have about Sabo. As for where Sabo has been, given the info you have of him so far he's been with the revolutionaries, with Dragon and them. He's the chief of staff, so a very high up role and has worked with them for at least several years given his position. Also I know youre wondering why he wasnt at marine ford. Ill play devils advocate right now and just say the world of One Piece is huge, he could have been out of the grandline, in the new world, or anywhere at the time of Marine Ford. Mostly you gotta wait and see but again final pages of 731 cause Sabo does greatly regreat not being there that day. Also idk if you caught it but Koala, Sabo's partner, is the little girl who was on Fisher Tigger's ship. And shes now a master of Fishman Karate! I know you dont mention everything you catch but didnt know if you remembered that Koala was that little slave girl. As for the Mera Mera no Mi, I really couldn't imagine anyone else having it. Luffy obviously cant eat it and it wouldnt really suit anyone on the crew, for one we just dont need any more anchors than we already have and I also dont think anyone would take it. And I didn't want it to go to a random character. The fruit felt like a part of Ace's soul something that should be given to someone who would cherish it and value having it, not just due to the power of the fruit but also because it was the fruit Ace once had. Sabo is really the only character that fit that bill. Anyone else we know of who was close to Ace already has a fruit, or wouldnt really fit it. So when I read these chapters for the frist time i was estatic when Sabo showed up. I stayed up late reading till he got the fruit, rolling around on my bed all giddy that he had it, Sabo got it the fruit was safe it was with Ace's family. And then proceeded to speed through the remaineder of the arc because I had to see every Sabo scene I had to know what would happen with him from there. Sabo just makes me happy. I love that he loves Luffy, I find him baddass and cool and I love the impact he had on Ace and Luffy when they were kids as well as the potential for his character and role after he is reintroduced. And then ok about Sabo being a replacement Ace, I have often seen Sabo jokenly called Ace 2.0 on multiple occasions. If you see Sabo as just a replacement Ace really comes down to the person. There are several simularities between them but they are also still both their own characters and Sabo's role in the story is much different from Ace's. So i think calling him Ace 2.0 or Ace Lite or Second Ace or whatever isnt really fair to him or Ace. yes they are both Luffy's older brothers, yes they are both high end commmanders in large forces, yes they both have issues with their birth parents, yes they both were/are the users of the Mera Mera no Mi. But I think as you get to know Sabo you'll come to see him as his own character and not another Ace. He's more of a mirror to Ace not meant to be someone there to just take his place. Though I cant touch too much on Sabo's character without potentially touching spoiler territory. I know this comment is a long one but I just wanted to say this to just give another view on Sabo. I really enjoy his character and I know part of that comes down to me being a sucker for siblings in media. You give me siblings in a story im going to be a sucker for them and often take greater interest in their relationship. My One Piece shelf is decked out in a number of stuff but a lot of it is ASL stuff, and I even have a one piece tattoo i wanna one day get that will incorporate something for the ASL brothers. So I know im very biased towards Sabo and I also have a very different connection to Ace. I still adore him but his death did not break me, did not hurt me the way I know it did for you. If you happened to read all this really thank you, I know this is rather long but I just dont feel like a short comment on Sabo would have been able to express my thoughts on him. I have more but imma stop here, for sake of length and cause I dont want to worry about spoiling things for you by saying too much. Part 2/2
@@roxan_1314 I'm so sorry to hear you're a widow too 😭 also I super appreciate long comments and the time you took to write this, I am always craving more perspectives and it really helps with contextualising characters I may not have given the best chance, though I do agree and love what you know of my experience and my own attachment to Ace. It was actually your comment about Sabo being Ace's first friend that hit me. I didn't quite see that even though I knew deep down that must have been true, and how important Sabo was to Ace, just like how important Ace was to Luffy. It's making me rethink Sabo's placement in the story considering all I could think of while reading Post-War and now Dressrosa is that he's just filling the hole that Ace left in every way (big brother, Ace's devil fruit, using his moves). Your interpretation of the "I'm so weak" scene and Luffy already feeling loss before Ace, only to then feel it again, also hits for me. Also, I totally missed Koala and now that makes me even more happy! Honestly your comment has helped a lot. I think I know deep down you are so correct that he is not Ace 2.0 and not there as a replacement, and if anything, and I do mention this in the video, he will be able to continue honouring Ace and furthering his legacy by being Luffy's big brother AND having Ace's powers, it's like Ace is alive again within Sabo and that does make me happy - I think I'm just blinded by grief still. Everything you say is perfect and I 100% agree with it all, but the emotional side of it is making me think the worst of the situation because of how much I miss Ace. It almost still feels too soon, and I wonder if binge-reading the series doesn't help with that because Marineford really wasn't that long ago when I read it (2 months now wow), so the wounds are still fresh, whereas if I'd maybe read it weekly and it had been years, my wounds would have healed and I would have welcomed Sabo more graciously. Fortunately I'm not closed off to Sabo's character at all. I don't want to write him off and there's a big part of me that's excited to see what happened between Luffy and Sabo to get Sabo into the Lucy disguise, as I'm sure it was a heck of a reunion. I want to see Luffy happy and to heal more than anything, and I definitely see Sabo's return doing that for him. I just need to get my heart out of the situation and use my head more. I thought I would have been over Ace's death by now but damn, the focus on Ace and his devil fruit, and about family and brotherhood that I saw in the early part of this arc, makes Sabo's return perfect, but there's that niggling part of me that's thinking "Ace should be here too". Thank you for opening my eyes and heart a little more to Sabo, because of your comment I feel a nice long speech coming in part two that will hopefully help with me accepting Sabo.
@@GavinReadsItAll Roxan’s explanation pretty much covers everything. I just wanted to point out one thing. When you get to Sabo’s explanation for his absence later in the story just keep in mind to get a full understanding of the situation you need to be a native Japanese speaker. We as English readers miss out on the context because we don’t have an understanding of the Japanese language or culture. Basically the word “Sakazuki” is a homonym for Akainu’s birth name and the oath taken by Luffy, Ace, and Sabo. Akainu is actually a military codename. Sakazuki is also the name of the oath ceremony taken by yakuza gang member’s when they are initiated into the organization. New recruits exchange a cup of alcohol with the boss of the mafia group and pledge loyalty. In the case of One Piece the boys used the Sakazuki tradition to validate their bond. When I learned that Sakazuki was a homonym in Japanese, I started to realise no matter how many times we read the series we will never have the full context of the story as non native speakers so I really appreciate it when fans notice this stuff and explain it to the rest of us.
@@GavinReadsItAll I'm glad my comment was able to help! Also yeah if you had experienced weekly there would have been lime 4 years between Marineford and Dressrosa. And then I know on my end I had a decade of knowing prior. Sabo being Ace's first friend really really helped me like him when introduced cause its like oh thank God Ace had someone. Not to mention just find all the art of the 3 Brothers as kids to be adorable. Also I do like love all your thoughts on this arc connecting to brotherhood and childhood and family. It's a really great observation about this arc. And I'm excited to see you read the rest of this arc. Im on my phone so im unable to like double check your comment to see what else to reply to. But I hope you enjoy the rest of this arc. And even if you don't end up liking Sabo that he doesn't become like a detriment to the story for you. I get it can be hard to step back when you're attached to a character im lucky in that I knew prior to meeting my OP Husband that he was doomed to die. I'm actually pretty excited for the day we get to see you meet him. Though im by no means expecting you to like. Love him like I do. He just ticks various boxes for me that makes me adore a character and I know im not normal about him.
@@roxan_1314 I read the whole comment, and you know what, you are the only person I know that have the same experience (too similar, I am scared) about ASL as mine. Sometimes I feel very conflicted as I cannot bring myself to love Ace as the other do. But after Post War, I cried a lot, and I understand both Luffy and Ace more, I have come to cherish him more after Post War. As for Sabo as a character, I love Sabo so much because I can see myself in him sometimes, the image of young Sabo looking out of the window as if he was in a cage hits me hard. And the edge to refuse the privilege that you have because you cannot help but find it disgusting, too. And, who does not love a loving older brother.
Ussop's development took a hit likely due to the fact that Robin was erased from memory at the time, and she was a major source of motivation during Ussop's biggest moments of character growth.
First a few corrections to help you a bit. Fujitora is not a Vice Admiral, he's an Admiral. Since Aokiji stepped down & Akainu became fleet admiral, Navy needed two new ones. Kizaru is the only one that remained. Admiral is almost as scary as an Emperor, Vice Admiral not even close. Also Blackbeard betrayed the navy when he recruited the Impel Down prisoners & he became one of the 4 Emperors instead of Whitebeard, as revealed at the end of Fishman Island. But now, to alleviate your heart. What if I told you that we saw Sabo's cameo in the manga earlier than Ace was introduced? Ace debuted in Drum Kingdom but we saw Sabo on 1st panel of the last page of chapter 98 in Logue Town and in chapter 99 too. It makes perfect sense that Sabo was there since it's Dragon who saved Luffy from being decapitated by Buggy & from Smoker. And let alone that Ace always had the crossed S "ASCE" tattoo, since he thought his brother was dead. That makes it even more beautiful that he inherits his will.
To be honest, being an admiral does require to be pretty strong, but you can refure to be admiral and have a lower rank, just like Garp, so untimately your rank doesn't determine how strong you are, and there could be vice admirals capable of fighting a yonko
@@OscarIna0fTimeVODs absolutely. Garp was only a Vice Admiral, yet he could go toe to toe with the strongest fighters during Rogers era. Including Roger himself. Rank does not equate to strength. The highest ranks do require a certain level of power though.
I always forget how long some of these later arcs are (101 chapters, wow) especially with Wano taking up an entire 4 years to tell. People entered high school when it started, and graduated when it ended lol. Luckily it means there is a lot of character development, and I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the next half!
Not sure if you've been told but Barto being called a cannibal is sort of a mistranslation it's referring to a saying in Japanese about "eating" people in other words mocking/heckling people which is why he was always messing with the crowd.
1:47:32 What happens here is absolutely terrifying from usopp's perspective, if you think about it. Robin was changed in to a toy, therefore everyone forgets her. It's like she never existed. Usopp might know someone important was just erased, he might also have no idea. But we for sure know, that he doesn't know a Robin anymore. He can't remember anything to do with her either, no Robin, no enies lobby, no Sogeking. a big part of him was just completely erased, and he probably doesn't even know. He can just tell that a lot of people were just defeated, but he has no idea who. He can speculate, but all he sees is a bunch of toys on the floor and all he knows is how sugars powers work.
Usopp's lie in Thriller Bark about the hot swordswoman with meat to wake up the guys who had their shadows stolen came true here in Dressrosa with Rebecca.
Regarding Usopp running cowardly away, there’s a very interesting theory regarding that: when a person gets turned into a toy everyone forgets them, with that in mind when Robin turns into a toy wouldn’t Usopp forget alot about what he went through during the Water 7 saga?
01:54:13 Usopp and Baggy is a duo that the fandom fears and expects more than any other in the series, because if this two powers were together in the same place working together they would find the one piece inmediately. (please, excuse my bad english
29:05 "I'd love to see a country based on ancient Egypt" - insert we have Alabasta at home meme here 29:19 Dagama design is a reference to Dr. Eggman from Sonic. That's probably why it feels familiar. 35:00 The Barrier Barrier fruit is called Bari Bari no Mi in Japanese. The "no Mi" part is "fruit", while coincidentally this one reference the English word barrier, so not a good example. Many fruits use onomatopoeias for the name, i.e. the Flame Flame fruit is called "Mera Mera no Mi" because mera is the Japanese onomatopoeia used for flames. 1:48:00 Usop forgot about Robin entirely, so he found himself there without any real investment in what he was doing, so I think it's understandable that he just run away on instinct. 1:54:50 If you compare Kyro's flashback with Rebecca's flashback, you will notice how Kyros was "removed" in the same scenes due Sugar's devil fruit. 2:00:00 Yeah, Sabo does feel like an Ace's replacement and there are some incongruencies with his story, but you will get most of the answers later. However, not sure if I miss it, but doesn't Koala remind you of anyone? ; )
i myself really liked sabo since he first appeared, and i was so so so happy when he came back. but i totally understand why many readers don't like him. i'm actually suprised that the thought of "it seems that sabo is an ace replacement" didn't cross my mind until i heard people mention it, because it does make sense to think that way at first. but with more chapters with sabo, it becomes more clear how he's his own person (both personality-wise and his role in the story and all). at least for me hehe. i'm happy you're giving him a chance :) onto the other parts!!! i'm glad you're enjoying dressrosa so far and really looking forward to part 2. i've recently reread this arc and wow it's really a wild emotional ride and lots of adrenaline rush (and binge-reading it really is the best, because some of one piece's best points is the build-ups and all the little details that we could miss/forget when reading weekly. i remember how hard it was reading dressrose when the chapters were still being released weekly ahaha). really looking forward to your thoughts on other things but i'm afraid i'd accidentally spoil what's to come, ahaha so i'll save that for part 2. have fun with the rest of this arc, gavin! :) (also your chopper jacket is the cutest thing ever!)
Just found your channel because of these arc reviews a couple weeks ago and now I've caught up to them just killing time at work. The way you do these reviews is refreshing when most of the community is focused on fights and power scaling. Reminds me of when I discovered Merphy doing these a year or so ago! So glad to see more literature-minded people picking this series up and making content!
Some already commented on all the connections to Alabasta and you found them yourself. There is another one to that saga, Drum Island specifically. That arc was all about "You only die when you are forgotten" and here we have people that technically are physically alive but are basically dead because they are forgotten 😥 Also the first thing with Senor Pink and the bra... he didn't eat it lol... he used it as a handkerchief to wipe the tomato off his face 😂 Don't worry, he is no creep or interested in that bra, he is too hard-boiled for that. Edit: Ah btw, I don't understand how Sabo being alive lessens the pain for Luffy losing Ace. That was 2 years ago and he had enough pain over that. Let that man have some good things happen every now and then.
Love your chapter-by-chapter review as always! I felt the same way about Sabo too, but he does grow on you over time. He has his own distinctive personality with his own set of principles and emotional baggage. His narrative similarities with Ace really begins and ends with them both being Luffy's brother. Other than that, he has a completely different function in the story as a revolutionary and not a pirate. Also, I can promise you that Ace has not being forgotten by the story! A couple of things you might have missed: Koala is the same Koala from Fisher Tiger's flashback, Doflamingo ~sort of~ already hinted at his backstory in chapters 712 and 722 (though you probably already read his actual flashback since you're a video ahead on Patreon), Fuijitora is an Admiral and not a Vice Admiral (remember that Akainu got promoted and Aokiji left, so the Navy had two back fill two vacancies).
"Sabo introduced right after Ace death" that is a binge perspective, when you were reading it one chapter a week or longer it did not feel it, chapter 574 and chapter 774 is pretty much 4 years apart, enough time for grief over a fictional character
Its a shame you're having these feelings about Sabo. I found him rather interesting and more like a mirror to Ace than a replacement. Sabo is the son of a noble that ran away from the life was generally accepted by the world and Ace is the son of a pirate who wanted nothing more than to be accepted by the world.
I'm still blinded by grief, but after reading Roxan's comment about Sabo, I'm so happy to see other sides and feelings towards Sabo as it has really opened my eyes on him.
@@GavinReadsItAll Dont worry too much about sabo now because oda will def show in the future that he nothing like ace at all and more of his own character. He isn't here to replace ace but to carry on his will alongside luffy of course.
Let's be real, at that point in the story the majority of people felt like Sabo was just a cheap Ace replacement with little to no purpose in the story and adding nothing new (at least that's my impression as someone who was a weekly reader in Dressrosa). However, Oda managed to make me and a whole lot of people change their mind about Sabo. Right now I think he's honestly one of the most interesting characters in the current story and he definitely has a big and unique role to play
So excited to see your thoughts on dressrosa, especially all the new characters we meet! Some of my favorite one piece characters are in this arc and I can’t wait to see what you’ll think of them! Also super nervous about how you’ll feel about the reveal of my top hat guy, I really hope you can warm up to him especially because I feel he might end up being more important in the story (not spoilers, I’m not caught up but that’s the vibe I get) and I think he’s an interesting character!
This arc dragged pretty hard on a weekly read. But binge reading it after the fact cemented it as one of my favorites. It's sublime and I've really come to appreciate the multitude of new characters introduced.
There is a panel in post-war where Oda sneakily "confirms" that Sabo is alive. As soon as I asked myself why a certain scene was included (and what really happened there because the dialogue didn't really fit the image) I was absolutely sure that Sabo was alive.
Wait, you didn't care about Kyro's backstory? I cried my eyes out reading about him wearing gloves to hold his daughter because he felt someone as pure and innocent as her shouldn't be touched by him because he is tainted even after Riku and Scarlet believe Kyros to be redeemed. Then he's turned into a toy and Scarlet forgetting about him results in her death and now that he's a toy he can't feel her or his daughter. None of that hit you? I'm crying just writing about it!
Oh yes I said a few times in the video that those parts were very emotional, but when I said I didn't care I was only talking about the brief flashback in Chapter 741 of the younger Kyros and his sort of teen years, it was only really that flashback I didn't care a great deal for, but the other flashbacks I did!
i didn't care about the dressrosa royal family either..oda dropped the ball with the politics in dressrosa recycling arabasta..he should have left doflamingo be just an underground broker
frankys cyborg power has advantage of changing hairstyle with just a button push, i think its properly shown only in anime. so yeah franky always has different hairstyles is because he can 😅
Apologies if i said this already but I love the homage to Dragon Ball in this arc. In DB Master Roshi disguised himself to get into the tournament anonymously but in OP Luffy disguises himself as Master Roshi to secretly enter the tournament. Nice nod to Akira Toriyama who influenced basically all shonen since Dragon Ball.
Just finally got around to watching the whole thing. I was glad you're more interested in the country's politics than the coliseum- Oda has a lot to say about these kinds of topics, but the general manga audience is more into the "tournament arc" than the setting of the fights themselves. If you feel iffy about "Sabo is just a replacement for Ace" well, they have very different roles and different goals in the story. Although I do see the obvious overlap between the two, it's better to consider them entirely different characters.
I totally get the feeling of Sabo being an Ace replacement. But I think he is very distinct from Ace in personality and role in the story. He is a revolutionary and not a pirate. He has a unique personality. I feel like even if Ace was still alive, he would still greatly contribute to the story. Maybe even more than Ace since he is directly opposing the world government. You really pointed out great observations about the theme of childhood and Siblings. It is very prominent in this arc and I feel like it gets overshadowed sometimes.
Last video you asked why they had to show the Whitebeard and Ace gravesite on the cover story. If you look closely you will see three sake cups and a newspaper that hint that Sabo visited Ace's grave and were a clue that we would see him in the future.
The "sabo feels like a replacement for ace" critique is fairly common, and i understand where it comes from, but it never resonated with me bc rly what ur doing when thinking abt it that way is reducing ace to just "luffys brother". Ace was his own fully fledged character with his own character arc that was told brilliantly from start to finish, luffy having another brother doesn't change or minimize a single thing abt that. Ace and Sabo do have one thing in common that ties them together very strongly tho, which is their role as luffys older brothers and how they look out for him. Oda reintroduces Sabo through this role and similarity, bringing him back to reclaim the flame-flame fruit, symbolizing him carrying on THAT specific part of Ace's will, but u also need to trust Oda to develop him into his own fully fledged character beyond that, something for which a lot of the legwork was already done in postwar, given how a lot of it centered around sabo's own unique circumstances as a character as well as the fact that he's revealed to be a figure in the revolutionary army. Tldr, sabo is only a replacement for Ace if you view both of them as nothing more than luffys brothers, so ultimately i disagree with that view.
Agree with this, and as for their personalities being similar-- Ace being a nice supportive reliable big bro-- that was also affected by Sabo being the nice brother and then "dying," making Ace consciously try to be softer to Luffy compared to before, when he was the rough brother, because Ace then felt he had to make up for the loss of Sabo. So while Ace and Sabo seem similar in this way, they weren't as children; though they were like two complementary halves. Sabo's "death" influenced Ace to be more like Sabo, and now that Ace is gone, Sabo is trying to pick up some part of that loss, the same way that Ace did. But beyond that, they are totally different people with different functions in the story.
Honestly with Oda, he gives small little leads as to character stories and sometimes I think that the small thing is not important only for it to come back again and bite me in the butt. And as for Sabo, totally understandable as to why you feel that way about him. But for me as the eldest of two sisters, who would do anything to have them happy, I love Sabo and I am so happy that in a way Luffy still has his bonds from childhood and that their promise of brotherhood is still holding strong and now symbolically Ace's will is now being carried by both Sabo and Luffy.
Love your video and your reactions. One of my favorite theories from around this time was that Usopp's sudden backtracking and cowardice was because he forgot Robin. So much of his development was in Enies Lobby due to him becoming braver to fight CP9 and bring her back. Without that, he lost his progress. Robin's presence, in particular, was a huge part of his growth, so this is one of the biggest repercussions we see before she is saved and brought back.
@@idk-dz Sure. Except for the pyramidal architecture, the weapons and armor worn by the soldiers, the name of the royal family, the "desert kingdom with a massive river in the middle" motif, the crocodiles, the ancient tombs, the name "Alabasta" itself, and the fact that their guardian deities are a jackal and a falcon, definitely not Egyptian at all.
In defence of Ussop, i would say once Robin disappeared, he didn't have a close friend to fight for like he did say in Arlong Park because Robin was just deleted. As an audience we're like "save robin!" but in Ussop's head it's just the new people he just met. AND YET despite not having that same level of skin in the game he comes back and tries anyway. Also if Ussop was completely brave his dream would be complete and that ain't happening until late game, possibly Elbaf who knows. His dream while similar to say Scarecrow from Wiz of Oz, it's a lot less in your face that he's always been brave, he does have to struggle more.
I am glad you like FI arc. Just like Skypeia arc, its very underated and some fans love to hate them. Those are also the same people that like to boast about OP world building, setup and foreshadowing but ironically they always hated and complaining about any arc that focus on world building, plots, foreshadowing.. less fighting and powerlevel.. Certainly this kind of arc destroy so many of those fans their headcanon and fanfiction. Powerlevel stuffs certainly
55:50 Let me take you down memory lane, for a minute, to Drum Island. Do you remember Hiruluk's final speech? When does a person die? That also ties down to Roger telling Rayleigh that he was not going to die, because he was going to be remembered by everyone, presumably. Here, in Dressrosa, under Doflamingo, people are completely forgotten by everyone, but forced to live on
Doflamingo's dialogue about bloodlust/the colloseum that Momo witnessed is a direct mirror of Cavendish's dialogue to Lucy about it but from the alternate perspective. Two blondes cast out from royalty/privilige with similar cynicism but different moral positions 🤔 Ppl generally forget Cavendish's monologue in his first chapter
Time for Dressrosa, read until chapter 712 yesterday and now I am catching up to that place in the video, ahhh I am so excited about the Tournament thing for the Devil Fruit! Let's Go!!
1:48:54 so from Ussop’s perspective, as soon as Robin is poofed into a toy, he’s now completely in the shit with no backup. Since he’s forgotten the extremely capable Robin, the guy is freaking out now that the whole plan has gone to shit. Ussop is a coward at heart, and so he flees. That’s just his instinct. But he’s also a brave person, despite his cowardice. So he does stop running and goes to Dave the problem.
The quote from Dr Hiriluk back on drum island hits so much harder after reading Dressrosa. Also all hail God Usopp!!! "When do you think people die? When they are shot through the heart by the bullet of a pistol? No. When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? No. When they drink a soup made from a poisonous mushroom? No. It's when they are forgotten." - Dr. Hiriluk
1:18:25 You see him doing it for the first time in Jaya, when they cut to the meeting to choose a new Warlord after Crocodile was stripped of his position. Doflamingo is controlling a Marine officer that was present there to attack another one. And later on, you see him making Sarquiss and Bellamy fight each other
I personally loved Bartolomeo throwing a bomb into the crowd calling them scum. 'you won't get down here and fight but you'll cheer and jeer about us shedding our blood for your entertainment'
1:49:16 idr how much we see it in the manga, but in the anime, after Robin is turned, whenever it cuts to Luffy talking bout the plan to free the toys, he’s always like “oh Ussop has this, don’t worry.” Because our poor girl has been forgotten even by him…
So funny listening to your initial thoughts on some of the new characters and then how it changes during the story 👍 there are some great reveals I can’t wait to see your reactions in pt2 You can now follow the church of God Ussop Once you have finished this arc you can watch the Stampede film
When Usopp forgot robin... He forgot sogeking to. That's means, he forgot his own strength. Remember the fight against Perona, that was the last time he ran of fear... The next fight was against an admiral on sabaody (on defence of Zoro)
3:33 Yes, Oda actually answered and drew that when somebody asked how Doffy would look without glasses lol Behind the glasses there's... ¡Another pair of glasses!
Still loving your readthrough Gavin! You said a few times that you have some card packs and sets for the newer card game, right? Any chance you'll do an unboxing/opening video for them once you're all caught up? :D
On Sabo: he will grow on you very quickly. To the other viewers: cant wait for the next reaction to a certain man's formal introduction into the story..
awww, Luffy has a fanboy, I love it! honestly I love the battle royal so far, I am a sucker for tournaments in stories (one of the Reasons I like Dragon Ball so much xD )
If you go back to Sabaody... when they were looking for the places Camie could be in we also got a glimpse of all the prices for a lot of different races of slaves... "the little people" (dwarves/kobito) were in that list... so were the long neck, long leg, and long arms along with mermaids, fishmen and giants... from memory so some of them might not have been visible...
14:30 But Dressrosa is based on Spain, actually. Specifically in Parc Güell, in Barcelona. Barcelona specifically doesn't have a Roman colosseum (but there's one in Tarragona, really closeby), but it does have a much newer one, a bullfighting arena, about 3 miles away from the park. Bullfighting in Spanish, btw, is said "Corrida de Toros", just as in "Corrida Colosseum" in Dressrosa, and that's the reason one of the fighters is Ucy, a bull. The gladiatorial arena is inspired by the Greco-Roman culture, but since they basically owned the whole of Europe, and they built colosseums everywhere, you don't need the setting to be Rome specifically to have the references
BTW, in Dressrosa we have Rebecca, daughter of Scarlet. Scarlet's sister is Violet. Dressrosa is based on Spain. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is Pokemon Dressrosa
All the toys remember who they were. Sugar forgetting the contract just means that the soldier doesn't have to follow the families orders😊 Absolutly addore your theories though😂😁
Did you just forget how being a Warlord was just for Blackbeard to infiltrate Impel Down and how in Fishman Island Jimbei said he's one of the 4 emperors? That alongside with the 3 great powers being the Navy, 7 Warlords and 4 emperors makes it clear you can't be both at once.
Yes Gavin it shows Mingo using his powers in both Marine ford and before to manipulate people. Its not super obvious and flashy; so your mind being distracted explains how you missed it.
2:02:58 I don’t think this is ever explicitly said to be the case, but if so I do apologize for the minor spoiler. But I think Robin not talking about Sabo to Luffy is pretty simple to explain away. Sabo asked her not to because he figured they’d run into each other at some point, and wanted to do it himself. Also he didn’t want to distract Luffy from his dreams. Also Luffy just does not care about current events, so his conversation with her about the Time Skip probably went something like: “So where did you go during the two years?” “Oh I was with your father and the Revolutionaries.” “Oh that’s cool :) Sanji can I get some meat?!?”
I'm a bit late and haven't had the chance to read through all the comments so someone may have already reminded you but... around the 29 minute mark you mention an Egypt based island... Gav, did you forget Alabasta existed? Edit: lol you mentioned it like 5 minutes right after, must have just slipped your mind.
i feel like I've left too many sanji comments but here's an interesting tid bit. i feel lke most people (including me) started feeling weird about sanji after the thriller bark scene in which he reveals that he read through the devil fruit encyclopaedia as a child and decided that devil fruits come with "a curse" so the peepin tom no mi was the only devil fruit he'd eat if he came across it. but previously in baratie, when luffy was about to drown sanji didn't jump in to help him till zeff told him that devil fruit users can't swim. did sanji read the entire devil fruit encyclopaedia without reading what that curse was? not likely..did oda forget that interaction and decided to make a dumb gag and setback the character by 350 chapters? maybe.. but its about time we get a reckoning
I'm ready for the reckoning, and I forgot about that interaction so thanks for reminding me of that, that is interesting and makes me think that yeah maybe Oda did just do that as a dumb joke, which kinda sucks
Ussop fled when Robin was turned to stone was because usoop character development was mostly related with Robin and when Robin was turned to toy, the memory related to Robin became vague.
When Bellamy said he lost his crew, i think he meant that his crew didn’t follow him any more. Cuz they are also the ones who laughed at dreams (Skypiea). Maybe only he changed his mind and tried something hard for them to believe.
When you said that Doflamingo was pulling strings without knowing his devil fruit powers is perfection. You had no idea how right you were.
Haha I totally forgot about the scene much earlier of Doflamingo controlling the marines in chapter 234, I was only reminded in the comments of this video, but I had totally forgotten and just proves how crucial a re-read (or six) is.
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That's just Gavin using observation haki
@@GavinReadsItAll Doflamingo also did the string thing with bellamy back in Jaya.
@@GavinReadsItAll rewatching OP/rereading is so damn good you just pick up on so many things you missed the first time.
I think Sabo popping up in Dressrosa worked better for people reading weekly, just because it had been a few years since Ace died so it felt less like we were immediately replacing him with a new brother. And the callbacks to stuff from absolutely ages ago always hit harder when you're reading in real time.
you see him, and then remember the 3 cups on the grave
Going from "hes terrible, the gov should catch pirates like him" to "hes so sweet, im loving him" about Barto is hilarious
Just a bit of charisma and loyalty to our favorite characters and suddenly we overlook things like cannibalism which I think his character specifically has a history of.
@Courier Seven I mean, the title he had is Bartolomeo the Cannibal, but we don't technically know if that was accurate or just a scary name lol
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@@Courier_Seven I think it has a different meaning in Japanese. Something about how to "eat" people also means to "mock" them in Japanese. Which is his second hobby, after being president of the Strawhat fanclub.
@@Courier_Seven it's actually cultural pun, being in his presence as he constntly mocks and aggravates you is being likened to feeling like he's eating you alive.
Funfact. Bartolomeo's epithet "Cannibal" is actually a pun. "Eating people" means to "mock them" in Japanese.
"even the blind guy is there.... watching." 😂
Wait did I really say that omg, how did I miss that in editing 😂
@@GavinReadsItAll That is correct. He was watching in his own way.
"Please tell me we get an island like ancient Egypt."
glances at Alabasta...
I mean... Yeah, that happens in part of the story.
I guess it was the "Ancient" Egypt part I'm kind of craving with pharaohs and pyramids and tombs and things. I guess Alabasta did have one underground tomb thingy where the poneglyph was, but I didn't really feel the "Ancient" Egypt part of Alabasta as much as I'm getting the Ancient Rome of the gladiators and coliseum fights in Dressrosa, if that makes any sense
And then comparing Dress Rosa to Rome when Spain is RIGHT THERE LMFAO
Edit: Like, the coliseum is maybe more like Rome, but pretty much everything else is based off Spain imo. Violet's dress, the food...
Edit: Oop, it was eventually said
@@pauline_f328 Then again the colliseum is a mix of the roman colleseum with a bull place whatever it is named in english... even it's name is Corrida colliseum with the corrida being the name for the bull fights in spanish (corrida= a run)
"Did Usopp's development just go down the drain?"
Considering his development began in Ennies Lobby when the crew went to save Robin, and when Sugar turned Robin into a toy, therefore removing his memories of the actions that inspired his growth... yes. Technically it did.
Bullshit
Running notes that I'll edit:
- Gavin! You've already been to an island that's based on Egypt-- Alabasta!
- Doflamingo and Dressrosa is what happens if Crocodile was successful in Alabasta!
- The frame of Robin tied down by the Tontattas is a direct reference to the Liliputians capturing Gulliver in Gulliver's Travels.
- Barto is us, the One Piece Fans! Lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-luffy senpai!!!
- Doflamingo's control of other people was demonstrated in the beginning of Chapter 234. He was in that meeting with the Marines and was controlling those two Vice Admirals and making them draw their swords.
- Bellamy's story is so tragic. He's chosen to devote his life to the wrong man. It's like watching a classmate fall into the wrong crowd, start going down "the pipeline".
- Did you remember Koala? The little girl from the Fisher Tiger flashback? I think it's awesome she found her way to join Dragon and the Revolutionary Army.
- A few others have mentioned this in comments, but Usopp developed his Sogeking persona as a direct result of wanting to rescue Robin. His actions at Enies Lobby were to save his crewmate. The moment Robin turned into a doll, all that development disappeared, Sogeking disappeared. Usopp is willing to fight his fear in order to save his crew, but once Robin disappears from his memory, it's just him, all alone, so he runs. But in spite of that, he came back! He battled his fears and won for his own goal to be a brave warrior of the sea. Courage isn't the absence of fear, and Usopp has to overcome so much more fear each time he acts, compared to the monster trio of Luffy/Zoro/Sanji, who are fearless. HAIL GOD USOPP!
Personal Theory/Wishful Thinking:
Usopp's last name hasn't been revealed. I think it would be lovely if his last name was Montblanc.
Haha I forgot Alabasta was kinda based off Egypt, I think it's the "Ancient Egypt" feeling I was missing as I would have loved pharaohs and tombs and mummies, like how Dressrosa has gladiators and coliseums and such. But you're right!
Also Barto might be one of my new fav characters, I was ready to write him off to begin with but he won me over so hard haha. And ahhh thank you for reminding me of Doflamingo's powers and how they were seen earlier, I totally forgot about that scene!
HAIL GOD USOPP!!
About that part of Usopp being a coward: Because Robin got turned into a toy, she was basically forgotten. And one of Usopp's biggest character development was during Enies Lobby. He found a spark of bravery in that arc because of their motivation to save Robin. So forgetting Robin takes away that part of him down the drain.
OHHHH that makes so much sense!! Damn, how did I miss that
@@GavinReadsItAll there's also that while before he was there with a crewmate and now he's suddenly all alone.
@@GavinReadsItAlli missed it too, only now am I realizing it and I finished Dressrosa a whiileee ago
He still went back and basically died for them I love it. He was Scared and ran but Came back and lost.
I think that's more of a theory but a good one nontheless
I had the same opinion about Sabo when he was first introduced but have over time become quite pleased with the introduction of him, especially with later arcs and also with reread/rewatch. I really liked this arc for the many twists and turns.
I loved Sabo just because it made Luffy so so sooo happy. Just Imagine you think your brother died as a kid and your other brother died in your arms. How happy would you be to find out that the frist brother was still alive. I was so happy for Luffy I cried.
Luffy will literally be on your side and fight kings and gods if you give him food and hospitality. It's great.
I feel like this arc is finally the first actual test the Straw Hats is getting after the timeskip. Hody and Caesar can't even compare to Doffy.
Hope you enjoy it.
I agree, they’re really being pushed to their limits in this one
Ok so first pardon how long this comment is going to be, I just have a ton of thoughts, and also I just wanna talk about Sabo. I wanna talk about other stuff in this arc too but I think this is just going to be my Sabo comment and I'll do a seperate comment on arc info and stuff.
So ok wanna lead with it's perfectly fine to not like Sabo, if you ever worry about people being upset if you end up not liking him please don't. Everyone is free to have their own thoughts and feelings on characters, and I totally get not liking Sabo. But as someone who does like Sabo and adores the ASL brothers I do want to talk about him. To just give you the thoughts of someone who gets happy whenever they see Sabo on a page.
Also again sorry for the length I just wanna take both our perspectives on this into consideration cause I know our experiences with One Piece are rather different.
So I never had an issue wtih Sabo, I actually knew of him long before I meet him in story.
Way back around 2012 I had Ace's death spoiled for me, long before I ever read Marine Ford last year. So I have had a very long time in which I knew Ace did not make it, so when I did eventually read the whole series I went in knowing that, and I personally didnt start getting supper attached to Ace himself till Marine Ford and Post War. My view on him prior was pretty much all coming from the view of, Luffy loves his brother, his death is going to really affect him. And by the time I came to care about Ace apart from Luffy he was already dead. So the introduction of an aditional brother did not bother me instead it made me rather happy.
I know this was way different for you, that Ace is someone you adored dearly, and I do get this, I have my own character in One Piece that I'm like this with and I even indent to get a tattoo for. (Like you im also a widow) I completely get that Sabo blindsided you and after losing Ace you really wanted to just focus on him and not have a new character thrown into the mix. (I know you are aware of the hints towards a 3rd sibling but really those hints are so nothing that they dont really count until in retrospect. So I dont think those hints should be taken as a You should have seen this coming sort of thing at all)
I knew of Sabo prior cause well I've been consuming manga and anime for a very long time and with series like One Piece I had seen countless images and gifs and such way before I would really tackle the series myself, so I knew a 3rd kid existed for a long time now. So whenI started Post War I went "OH I know this kid cool nice to finally meet him" And given the loss of Ace I was just also eatting up all the content of him as a kid and I was so glad that he had had someone else in his life that he loved and that loved him. That as a small child Ace wasnt totally alone.
I love Post War, it's one of the few arcs I went to go watch in the anime because I wanted to see more content between Ace, Luffy and Sabo. I totally get having just lost Ace and not liking the sudden third sibling because it can very much feel like a replacement. But I dont think Sabo was/don't view him as that. Beyond their personalities being rather different there is also their roles in the story.
Sabo in Post War served a lot of purpose
* He gave us a nobel born character who rejected the corrupt and evil views of the people he grew up around, who was able to look at the way the nobels treated others and go this is wrong. We do have good royalty in the series like Vivi but Sabo was our first example of a nobel who was born into a bad household and chose to go against that
* He was Ace's first friend. Sabo and Ace meet each other when they were just 5, that meant for the 5 years prior to Luffy showing up Ace wasnt alone. I really needed that, Ace had such a tragic and lonely childhood that knowing he wasnt all alone up till the age of 10 was a relief. Ace had such self worth and identiy issues, as well as sucidial tendencies that idk if he would have made it to 10 if he didnt have someone by his side.
* He acted as the middle ground between Luffy and Ace. I really love the brothers dynamic, the way each of them play off each other was something I really enjoyed in Post War and given how hostile Ace was at the time you really needed a middle man who could help bridge the gap between Ace and Luffy as their bond formed.
* He encoutnered Dragon and helped fuel Dragon's cause, showing him how the nobels of Goa are so corrupt they broke a child born amongst their ranks, making a child ashamed to have been born a nobel.
* Sabo's death changed Luffy and Ace.
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The loss of Sabo helped pushed Ace to be a better big brother and is also what gave us the scene of Luffy wanting to be stronger. To get a scene like that, where Luffy as a child desperately wanted to get stronger so he would never lose someone again, he had to suffer a loss. We needed someone to exist for Luffy to lose then. This plays into the whole series, in the pre time skip we see how protective Luffy is of his crew, how one by one he beats down the people who stand agaisnt them, blowing through the East Blue like a force of Nature that couldn't be stopped. And then during Post War we go from this young Luffy who wants to get stronger, to Luffy leaving Windmill Villiage calling out to his brothers, to Luffy broken and crying saying that he's so weak.
I don't think the "I'm so weak" scene would have hit me nearly as hard as it did without Sabo. Oda showing us that since he was a child Luffy wanted to get stronger, not just cause of some generic little kid think like "imma be the strongest" but because "I wanna be strong enough so I dont lose someone I care about ever again." Luffy wanted to be strong enough so he would never lose anything again. And then he lost Ace. For that line to exist Luffy had to lose someone as a kid.
As for Sabo being alive and not dead, well one you kinda just woudn't keep him dead. Story wise, expecially in manga, you wouldnt introduce a character the way you did Sabo, kill them off screen, then keep them dead. Cause it would mostly be a waste of a character, to introduce a new rather big character into the story and only keep them around for such a short time.
Also I would suggest checking out chapter 589 if you have the time, I wont say more cause idk if you would consider this a spoiler or not.
Then back during Punk Hazard we see an image of Ace and Whitebeards graves, Ace's grave has the newspaper of Luffy's return on it as well as 3 sake cup and a bottle in front of it. Sabo is the only one that would know about their promise that would have visited the grave since obviously Luffy didn't. So this was another hint of his return. Then yes at the end of 731 it is rather clear it's Sabo. Im assuming you were mostly in denail about it being him since you werent a fan of his inclusion in Post War. XD But again the three sake cups, which again would and could only be Sabo. Also I would suggest reading the last two pages of 731 again. I think it would help with some of your questions you have about Sabo.
As for where Sabo has been, given the info you have of him so far he's been with the revolutionaries, with Dragon and them. He's the chief of staff, so a very high up role and has worked with them for at least several years given his position. Also I know youre wondering why he wasnt at marine ford. Ill play devils advocate right now and just say the world of One Piece is huge, he could have been out of the grandline, in the new world, or anywhere at the time of Marine Ford. Mostly you gotta wait and see but again final pages of 731 cause Sabo does greatly regreat not being there that day.
Also idk if you caught it but Koala, Sabo's partner, is the little girl who was on Fisher Tigger's ship. And shes now a master of Fishman Karate! I know you dont mention everything you catch but didnt know if you remembered that Koala was that little slave girl.
As for the Mera Mera no Mi, I really couldn't imagine anyone else having it. Luffy obviously cant eat it and it wouldnt really suit anyone on the crew, for one we just dont need any more anchors than we already have and I also dont think anyone would take it. And I didn't want it to go to a random character. The fruit felt like a part of Ace's soul something that should be given to someone who would cherish it and value having it, not just due to the power of the fruit but also because it was the fruit Ace once had. Sabo is really the only character that fit that bill. Anyone else we know of who was close to Ace already has a fruit, or wouldnt really fit it. So when I read these chapters for the frist time i was estatic when Sabo showed up. I stayed up late reading till he got the fruit, rolling around on my bed all giddy that he had it, Sabo got it the fruit was safe it was with Ace's family. And then proceeded to speed through the remaineder of the arc because I had to see every Sabo scene I had to know what would happen with him from there.
Sabo just makes me happy. I love that he loves Luffy, I find him baddass and cool and I love the impact he had on Ace and Luffy when they were kids as well as the potential for his character and role after he is reintroduced.
And then ok about Sabo being a replacement Ace, I have often seen Sabo jokenly called Ace 2.0 on multiple occasions. If you see Sabo as just a replacement Ace really comes down to the person. There are several simularities between them but they are also still both their own characters and Sabo's role in the story is much different from Ace's. So i think calling him Ace 2.0 or Ace Lite or Second Ace or whatever isnt really fair to him or Ace. yes they are both Luffy's older brothers, yes they are both high end commmanders in large forces, yes they both have issues with their birth parents, yes they both were/are the users of the Mera Mera no Mi. But I think as you get to know Sabo you'll come to see him as his own character and not another Ace. He's more of a mirror to Ace not meant to be someone there to just take his place.
Though I cant touch too much on Sabo's character without potentially touching spoiler territory.
I know this comment is a long one but I just wanted to say this to just give another view on Sabo. I really enjoy his character and I know part of that comes down to me being a sucker for siblings in media. You give me siblings in a story im going to be a sucker for them and often take greater interest in their relationship. My One Piece shelf is decked out in a number of stuff but a lot of it is ASL stuff, and I even have a one piece tattoo i wanna one day get that will incorporate something for the ASL brothers. So I know im very biased towards Sabo and I also have a very different connection to Ace. I still adore him but his death did not break me, did not hurt me the way I know it did for you.
If you happened to read all this really thank you, I know this is rather long but I just dont feel like a short comment on Sabo would have been able to express my thoughts on him. I have more but imma stop here, for sake of length and cause I dont want to worry about spoiling things for you by saying too much.
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@@roxan_1314 I'm so sorry to hear you're a widow too 😭 also I super appreciate long comments and the time you took to write this, I am always craving more perspectives and it really helps with contextualising characters I may not have given the best chance, though I do agree and love what you know of my experience and my own attachment to Ace.
It was actually your comment about Sabo being Ace's first friend that hit me. I didn't quite see that even though I knew deep down that must have been true, and how important Sabo was to Ace, just like how important Ace was to Luffy. It's making me rethink Sabo's placement in the story considering all I could think of while reading Post-War and now Dressrosa is that he's just filling the hole that Ace left in every way (big brother, Ace's devil fruit, using his moves). Your interpretation of the "I'm so weak" scene and Luffy already feeling loss before Ace, only to then feel it again, also hits for me. Also, I totally missed Koala and now that makes me even more happy!
Honestly your comment has helped a lot. I think I know deep down you are so correct that he is not Ace 2.0 and not there as a replacement, and if anything, and I do mention this in the video, he will be able to continue honouring Ace and furthering his legacy by being Luffy's big brother AND having Ace's powers, it's like Ace is alive again within Sabo and that does make me happy - I think I'm just blinded by grief still. Everything you say is perfect and I 100% agree with it all, but the emotional side of it is making me think the worst of the situation because of how much I miss Ace. It almost still feels too soon, and I wonder if binge-reading the series doesn't help with that because Marineford really wasn't that long ago when I read it (2 months now wow), so the wounds are still fresh, whereas if I'd maybe read it weekly and it had been years, my wounds would have healed and I would have welcomed Sabo more graciously.
Fortunately I'm not closed off to Sabo's character at all. I don't want to write him off and there's a big part of me that's excited to see what happened between Luffy and Sabo to get Sabo into the Lucy disguise, as I'm sure it was a heck of a reunion. I want to see Luffy happy and to heal more than anything, and I definitely see Sabo's return doing that for him. I just need to get my heart out of the situation and use my head more. I thought I would have been over Ace's death by now but damn, the focus on Ace and his devil fruit, and about family and brotherhood that I saw in the early part of this arc, makes Sabo's return perfect, but there's that niggling part of me that's thinking "Ace should be here too". Thank you for opening my eyes and heart a little more to Sabo, because of your comment I feel a nice long speech coming in part two that will hopefully help with me accepting Sabo.
@@GavinReadsItAll Roxan’s explanation pretty much covers everything. I just wanted to point out one thing. When you get to Sabo’s explanation for his absence later in the story just keep in mind to get a full understanding of the situation you need to be a native Japanese speaker. We as English readers miss out on the context because we don’t have an understanding of the Japanese language or culture. Basically the word “Sakazuki” is a homonym for Akainu’s birth name and the oath taken by Luffy, Ace, and Sabo. Akainu is actually a military codename. Sakazuki is also the name of the oath ceremony taken by yakuza gang member’s when they are initiated into the organization. New recruits exchange a cup of alcohol with the boss of the mafia group and pledge loyalty. In the case of One Piece the boys used the Sakazuki tradition to validate their bond. When I learned that Sakazuki was a homonym in Japanese, I started to realise no matter how many times we read the series we will never have the full context of the story as non native speakers so I really appreciate it when fans notice this stuff and explain it to the rest of us.
@@GavinReadsItAll I'm glad my comment was able to help!
Also yeah if you had experienced weekly there would have been lime 4 years between Marineford and Dressrosa. And then I know on my end I had a decade of knowing prior.
Sabo being Ace's first friend really really helped me like him when introduced cause its like oh thank God Ace had someone. Not to mention just find all the art of the 3 Brothers as kids to be adorable.
Also I do like love all your thoughts on this arc connecting to brotherhood and childhood and family. It's a really great observation about this arc. And I'm excited to see you read the rest of this arc.
Im on my phone so im unable to like double check your comment to see what else to reply to.
But I hope you enjoy the rest of this arc. And even if you don't end up liking Sabo that he doesn't become like a detriment to the story for you.
I get it can be hard to step back when you're attached to a character im lucky in that I knew prior to meeting my OP Husband that he was doomed to die. I'm actually pretty excited for the day we get to see you meet him. Though im by no means expecting you to like. Love him like I do. He just ticks various boxes for me that makes me adore a character and I know im not normal about him.
@@roxan_1314 I read the whole comment, and you know what, you are the only person I know that have the same experience (too similar, I am scared) about ASL as mine. Sometimes I feel very conflicted as I cannot bring myself to love Ace as the other do. But after Post War, I cried a lot, and I understand both Luffy and Ace more, I have come to cherish him more after Post War.
As for Sabo as a character, I love Sabo so much because I can see myself in him sometimes, the image of young Sabo looking out of the window as if he was in a cage hits me hard. And the edge to refuse the privilege that you have because you cannot help but find it disgusting, too. And, who does not love a loving older brother.
Ussop's development took a hit likely due to the fact that Robin was erased from memory at the time, and she was a major source of motivation during Ussop's biggest moments of character growth.
First a few corrections to help you a bit. Fujitora is not a Vice Admiral, he's an Admiral. Since Aokiji stepped down & Akainu became fleet admiral, Navy needed two new ones. Kizaru is the only one that remained. Admiral is almost as scary as an Emperor, Vice Admiral not even close. Also Blackbeard betrayed the navy when he recruited the Impel Down prisoners & he became one of the 4 Emperors instead of Whitebeard, as revealed at the end of Fishman Island. But now, to alleviate your heart. What if I told you that we saw Sabo's cameo in the manga earlier than Ace was introduced? Ace debuted in Drum Kingdom but we saw Sabo on 1st panel of the last page of chapter 98 in Logue Town and in chapter 99 too. It makes perfect sense that Sabo was there since it's Dragon who saved Luffy from being decapitated by Buggy & from Smoker. And let alone that Ace always had the crossed S "ASCE" tattoo, since he thought his brother was dead. That makes it even more beautiful that he inherits his will.
To be honest, being an admiral does require to be pretty strong, but you can refure to be admiral and have a lower rank, just like Garp, so untimately your rank doesn't determine how strong you are, and there could be vice admirals capable of fighting a yonko
@@OscarIna0fTimeVODs absolutely. Garp was only a Vice Admiral, yet he could go toe to toe with the strongest fighters during Rogers era. Including Roger himself. Rank does not equate to strength. The highest ranks do require a certain level of power though.
@@sindri1447And Garp could have damn well been an Admiral or even Fleet Admiral, but his disdain of the Celestial Dragons keeps him from advancing.
I always forget how long some of these later arcs are (101 chapters, wow) especially with Wano taking up an entire 4 years to tell. People entered high school when it started, and graduated when it ended lol. Luckily it means there is a lot of character development, and I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the next half!
WOW I didn't think of Wano like that but you're right, that's such a long time haha
If you remember back in Skypeia, Noland mention meeting small people in some island while he was exploring, guess we know where he met them!
Not sure if you've been told but Barto being called a cannibal is sort of a mistranslation it's referring to a saying in Japanese about "eating" people in other words mocking/heckling people which is why he was always messing with the crowd.
YESSS I AM SOO EXCITED
1:47:32 What happens here is absolutely terrifying from usopp's perspective, if you think about it.
Robin was changed in to a toy, therefore everyone forgets her. It's like she never existed. Usopp might know someone important was just erased, he might also have no idea. But we for sure know, that he doesn't know a Robin anymore. He can't remember anything to do with her either, no Robin, no enies lobby, no Sogeking. a big part of him was just completely erased, and he probably doesn't even know. He can just tell that a lot of people were just defeated, but he has no idea who. He can speculate, but all he sees is a bunch of toys on the floor and all he knows is how sugars powers work.
Usopp's lie in Thriller Bark about the hot swordswoman with meat to wake up the guys who had their shadows stolen came true here in Dressrosa with Rebecca.
There are some other people that can take this place too, like Kiku for instance, or even Wanda.
Regarding Usopp running cowardly away, there’s a very interesting theory regarding that: when a person gets turned into a toy everyone forgets them, with that in mind when Robin turns into a toy wouldn’t Usopp forget alot about what he went through during the Water 7 saga?
01:54:13 Usopp and Baggy is a duo that the fandom fears and expects more than any other in the series, because if this two powers were together in the same place working together they would find the one piece inmediately. (please, excuse my bad english
29:05 "I'd love to see a country based on ancient Egypt" - insert we have Alabasta at home meme here
29:19 Dagama design is a reference to Dr. Eggman from Sonic. That's probably why it feels familiar.
35:00 The Barrier Barrier fruit is called Bari Bari no Mi in Japanese. The "no Mi" part is "fruit", while coincidentally this one reference the English word barrier, so not a good example. Many fruits use onomatopoeias for the name, i.e. the Flame Flame fruit is called "Mera Mera no Mi" because mera is the Japanese onomatopoeia used for flames.
1:48:00 Usop forgot about Robin entirely, so he found himself there without any real investment in what he was doing, so I think it's understandable that he just run away on instinct.
1:54:50 If you compare Kyro's flashback with Rebecca's flashback, you will notice how Kyros was "removed" in the same scenes due Sugar's devil fruit.
2:00:00 Yeah, Sabo does feel like an Ace's replacement and there are some incongruencies with his story, but you will get most of the answers later. However, not sure if I miss it, but doesn't Koala remind you of anyone? ; )
i myself really liked sabo since he first appeared, and i was so so so happy when he came back. but i totally understand why many readers don't like him. i'm actually suprised that the thought of "it seems that sabo is an ace replacement" didn't cross my mind until i heard people mention it, because it does make sense to think that way at first.
but with more chapters with sabo, it becomes more clear how he's his own person (both personality-wise and his role in the story and all). at least for me hehe. i'm happy you're giving him a chance :)
onto the other parts!!! i'm glad you're enjoying dressrosa so far and really looking forward to part 2. i've recently reread this arc and wow it's really a wild emotional ride and lots of adrenaline rush (and binge-reading it really is the best, because some of one piece's best points is the build-ups and all the little details that we could miss/forget when reading weekly. i remember how hard it was reading dressrose when the chapters were still being released weekly ahaha).
really looking forward to your thoughts on other things but i'm afraid i'd accidentally spoil what's to come, ahaha so i'll save that for part 2. have fun with the rest of this arc, gavin! :)
(also your chopper jacket is the cutest thing ever!)
Just found your channel because of these arc reviews a couple weeks ago and now I've caught up to them just killing time at work. The way you do these reviews is refreshing when most of the community is focused on fights and power scaling. Reminds me of when I discovered Merphy doing these a year or so ago! So glad to see more literature-minded people picking this series up and making content!
Some already commented on all the connections to Alabasta and you found them yourself.
There is another one to that saga, Drum Island specifically. That arc was all about "You only die when you are forgotten" and here we have people that technically are physically alive but are basically dead because they are forgotten 😥
Also the first thing with Senor Pink and the bra... he didn't eat it lol... he used it as a handkerchief to wipe the tomato off his face 😂
Don't worry, he is no creep or interested in that bra, he is too hard-boiled for that.
Edit: Ah btw, I don't understand how Sabo being alive lessens the pain for Luffy losing Ace. That was 2 years ago and he had enough pain over that. Let that man have some good things happen every now and then.
Love your chapter-by-chapter review as always! I felt the same way about Sabo too, but he does grow on you over time. He has his own distinctive personality with his own set of principles and emotional baggage. His narrative similarities with Ace really begins and ends with them both being Luffy's brother. Other than that, he has a completely different function in the story as a revolutionary and not a pirate. Also, I can promise you that Ace has not being forgotten by the story!
A couple of things you might have missed: Koala is the same Koala from Fisher Tiger's flashback, Doflamingo ~sort of~ already hinted at his backstory in chapters 712 and 722 (though you probably already read his actual flashback since you're a video ahead on Patreon), Fuijitora is an Admiral and not a Vice Admiral (remember that Akainu got promoted and Aokiji left, so the Navy had two back fill two vacancies).
1:01:53 it is a universal rule of the OP World that bad disguises will work 9/10 times.
"Sabo introduced right after Ace death" that is a binge perspective, when you were reading it one chapter a week or longer it did not feel it, chapter 574 and chapter 774 is pretty much 4 years apart, enough time for grief over a fictional character
Its a shame you're having these feelings about Sabo. I found him rather interesting and more like a mirror to Ace than a replacement. Sabo is the son of a noble that ran away from the life was generally accepted by the world and Ace is the son of a pirate who wanted nothing more than to be accepted by the world.
I'm still blinded by grief, but after reading Roxan's comment about Sabo, I'm so happy to see other sides and feelings towards Sabo as it has really opened my eyes on him.
@@GavinReadsItAll Dont worry too much about sabo now because oda will def show in the future that he nothing like ace at all and more of his own character. He isn't here to replace ace but to carry on his will alongside luffy of course.
Let's be real, at that point in the story the majority of people felt like Sabo was just a cheap Ace replacement with little to no purpose in the story and adding nothing new (at least that's my impression as someone who was a weekly reader in Dressrosa).
However, Oda managed to make me and a whole lot of people change their mind about Sabo. Right now I think he's honestly one of the most interesting characters in the current story and he definitely has a big and unique role to play
@@GavinReadsItAll you will love him as time goes on. 😊
I like how you remembered that Sanji called himself mr Prince! Anyway, really excited for a certain arc in the future
So excited to see your thoughts on dressrosa, especially all the new characters we meet! Some of my favorite one piece characters are in this arc and I can’t wait to see what you’ll think of them! Also super nervous about how you’ll feel about the reveal of my top hat guy, I really hope you can warm up to him especially because I feel he might end up being more important in the story (not spoilers, I’m not caught up but that’s the vibe I get) and I think he’s an interesting character!
I'm sure I'll warm to top hat guy, it's just a lot to process and some concerns I need to get over first, but I have faith in Oda
This arc dragged pretty hard on a weekly read. But binge reading it after the fact cemented it as one of my favorites. It's sublime and I've really come to appreciate the multitude of new characters introduced.
Cant wait for part 2 where Senior Pink becomes one of Gavin's favorite characters.
There is a panel in post-war where Oda sneakily "confirms" that Sabo is alive. As soon as I asked myself why a certain scene was included (and what really happened there because the dialogue didn't really fit the image) I was absolutely sure that Sabo was alive.
Wait, you didn't care about Kyro's backstory? I cried my eyes out reading about him wearing gloves to hold his daughter because he felt someone as pure and innocent as her shouldn't be touched by him because he is tainted even after Riku and Scarlet believe Kyros to be redeemed. Then he's turned into a toy and Scarlet forgetting about him results in her death and now that he's a toy he can't feel her or his daughter.
None of that hit you? I'm crying just writing about it!
Oh yes I said a few times in the video that those parts were very emotional, but when I said I didn't care I was only talking about the brief flashback in Chapter 741 of the younger Kyros and his sort of teen years, it was only really that flashback I didn't care a great deal for, but the other flashbacks I did!
i didn't care about the dressrosa royal family either..oda dropped the ball with the politics in dressrosa recycling arabasta..he should have left doflamingo be just an underground broker
10:30 "Living Toys coexisting .... I love that"
Marking this for later.
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1:43:26 "That is messed up in a huge scale"
Me internally laughing when Gavin said he is worried about Shanks hahaha
Welcome to Dresrossa; the longest single day in manga history and one of my personal favorite arcs in One Piece.
frankys cyborg power has advantage of changing hairstyle with just a button push, i think its properly shown only in anime. so yeah franky always has different hairstyles is because he can 😅
Apologies if i said this already but I love the homage to Dragon Ball in this arc. In DB Master Roshi disguised himself to get into the tournament anonymously but in OP Luffy disguises himself as Master Roshi to secretly enter the tournament. Nice nod to Akira Toriyama who influenced basically all shonen since Dragon Ball.
Just finally got around to watching the whole thing.
I was glad you're more interested in the country's politics than the coliseum- Oda has a lot to say about these kinds of topics, but the general manga audience is more into the "tournament arc" than the setting of the fights themselves.
If you feel iffy about "Sabo is just a replacement for Ace" well, they have very different roles and different goals in the story. Although I do see the obvious overlap between the two, it's better to consider them entirely different characters.
I totally get the feeling of Sabo being an Ace replacement. But I think he is very distinct from Ace in personality and role in the story. He is a revolutionary and not a pirate. He has a unique personality. I feel like even if Ace was still alive, he would still greatly contribute to the story. Maybe even more than Ace since he is directly opposing the world government.
You really pointed out great observations about the theme of childhood and Siblings. It is very prominent in this arc and I feel like it gets overshadowed sometimes.
Last video you asked why they had to show the Whitebeard and Ace gravesite on the cover story. If you look closely you will see three sake cups and a newspaper that hint that Sabo visited Ace's grave and were a clue that we would see him in the future.
The "sabo feels like a replacement for ace" critique is fairly common, and i understand where it comes from, but it never resonated with me bc rly what ur doing when thinking abt it that way is reducing ace to just "luffys brother". Ace was his own fully fledged character with his own character arc that was told brilliantly from start to finish, luffy having another brother doesn't change or minimize a single thing abt that. Ace and Sabo do have one thing in common that ties them together very strongly tho, which is their role as luffys older brothers and how they look out for him. Oda reintroduces Sabo through this role and similarity, bringing him back to reclaim the flame-flame fruit, symbolizing him carrying on THAT specific part of Ace's will, but u also need to trust Oda to develop him into his own fully fledged character beyond that, something for which a lot of the legwork was already done in postwar, given how a lot of it centered around sabo's own unique circumstances as a character as well as the fact that he's revealed to be a figure in the revolutionary army.
Tldr, sabo is only a replacement for Ace if you view both of them as nothing more than luffys brothers, so ultimately i disagree with that view.
Agree with this, and as for their personalities being similar-- Ace being a nice supportive reliable big bro-- that was also affected by Sabo being the nice brother and then "dying," making Ace consciously try to be softer to Luffy compared to before, when he was the rough brother, because Ace then felt he had to make up for the loss of Sabo.
So while Ace and Sabo seem similar in this way, they weren't as children; though they were like two complementary halves. Sabo's "death" influenced Ace to be more like Sabo, and now that Ace is gone, Sabo is trying to pick up some part of that loss, the same way that Ace did. But beyond that, they are totally different people with different functions in the story.
Honestly with Oda, he gives small little leads as to character stories and sometimes I think that the small thing is not important only for it to come back again and bite me in the butt.
And as for Sabo, totally understandable as to why you feel that way about him. But for me as the eldest of two sisters, who would do anything to have them happy, I love Sabo and I am so happy that in a way Luffy still has his bonds from childhood and that their promise of brotherhood is still holding strong and now symbolically Ace's will is now being carried by both Sabo and Luffy.
Love your video and your reactions. One of my favorite theories from around this time was that Usopp's sudden backtracking and cowardice was because he forgot Robin. So much of his development was in Enies Lobby due to him becoming braver to fight CP9 and bring her back. Without that, he lost his progress. Robin's presence, in particular, was a huge part of his growth, so this is one of the biggest repercussions we see before she is saved and brought back.
1:38:00 He is called Cavendish, and Dr. Jekyll lived in Cavendish Square
Gavin: I hope we go to an island that's like ancient Egypt someday.
Alabasta: Am I a joke to you?
Alabasta is more middle eastern than Egyptian.
@@idk-dz Sure. Except for the pyramidal architecture, the weapons and armor worn by the soldiers, the name of the royal family, the "desert kingdom with a massive river in the middle" motif, the crocodiles, the ancient tombs, the name "Alabasta" itself, and the fact that their guardian deities are a jackal and a falcon, definitely not Egyptian at all.
In defence of Ussop, i would say once Robin disappeared, he didn't have a close friend to fight for like he did say in Arlong Park because Robin was just deleted. As an audience we're like "save robin!" but in Ussop's head it's just the new people he just met. AND YET despite not having that same level of skin in the game he comes back and tries anyway.
Also if Ussop was completely brave his dream would be complete and that ain't happening until late game, possibly Elbaf who knows. His dream while similar to say Scarecrow from Wiz of Oz, it's a lot less in your face that he's always been brave, he does have to struggle more.
LET THE SABO AGENDA BEGIN
I read my first manga last week and today I borrowed two more, Seven Days, so I've slowly been watching all your manga videos lol
I am glad you like FI arc.
Just like Skypeia arc, its very underated and some fans love to hate them.
Those are also the same people that like to boast about OP world building, setup and foreshadowing but ironically they always hated and complaining about any arc that focus on world building, plots, foreshadowing.. less fighting and powerlevel..
Certainly this kind of arc destroy so many of those fans their headcanon and fanfiction. Powerlevel stuffs certainly
Prince Sanji does sound good.
Does have a bit of a charm to it
55:50 Let me take you down memory lane, for a minute, to Drum Island. Do you remember Hiruluk's final speech? When does a person die? That also ties down to Roger telling Rayleigh that he was not going to die, because he was going to be remembered by everyone, presumably. Here, in Dressrosa, under Doflamingo, people are completely forgotten by everyone, but forced to live on
Doflamingo's dialogue about bloodlust/the colloseum that Momo witnessed is a direct mirror of Cavendish's dialogue to Lucy about it but from the alternate perspective.
Two blondes cast out from royalty/privilige with similar cynicism but different moral positions 🤔
Ppl generally forget Cavendish's monologue in his first chapter
Back again Gav. I hope you enjoyed this because it is LONG.
It really is haha enjoying it so far
Time for Dressrosa, read until chapter 712 yesterday and now I am catching up to that place in the video, ahhh I am so excited about the Tournament thing for the Devil Fruit!
Let's Go!!
Let's goooooo
1:48:54 so from Ussop’s perspective, as soon as Robin is poofed into a toy, he’s now completely in the shit with no backup. Since he’s forgotten the extremely capable Robin, the guy is freaking out now that the whole plan has gone to shit. Ussop is a coward at heart, and so he flees. That’s just his instinct. But he’s also a brave person, despite his cowardice. So he does stop running and goes to Dave the problem.
The quote from Dr Hiriluk back on drum island hits so much harder after reading Dressrosa. Also all hail God Usopp!!!
"When do you think people die? When they are shot through the heart by the bullet of a pistol? No. When they are ravaged by an incurable disease? No. When they drink a soup made from a poisonous mushroom? No. It's when they are forgotten." - Dr. Hiriluk
1:18:25 You see him doing it for the first time in Jaya, when they cut to the meeting to choose a new Warlord after Crocodile was stripped of his position. Doflamingo is controlling a Marine officer that was present there to attack another one. And later on, you see him making Sarquiss and Bellamy fight each other
I personally loved Bartolomeo throwing a bomb into the crowd calling them scum. 'you won't get down here and fight but you'll cheer and jeer about us shedding our blood for your entertainment'
2:02:38 Do you recognize Koala? It took me years to notice who she was, but in my defense, I was a weekly reader, and it had been way too long
Specifically the scene of Robin being tied down by the Tontattas is based on "Gulliver's Travels"
1:49:16 idr how much we see it in the manga, but in the anime, after Robin is turned, whenever it cuts to Luffy talking bout the plan to free the toys, he’s always like “oh Ussop has this, don’t worry.” Because our poor girl has been forgotten even by him…
So funny listening to your initial thoughts on some of the new characters and then how it changes during the story 👍 there are some great reveals I can’t wait to see your reactions in pt2
You can now follow the church of God Ussop
Once you have finished this arc you can watch the Stampede film
When Usopp forgot robin... He forgot sogeking to. That's means, he forgot his own strength. Remember the fight against Perona, that was the last time he ran of fear... The next fight was against an admiral on sabaody (on defence of Zoro)
Beginning of the video:
"I just want Bartolomeo to go away."
End of the video:
"We got to protect him at all cost!"
3:33 Yes, Oda actually answered and drew that when somebody asked how Doffy would look without glasses lol
Behind the glasses there's... ¡Another pair of glasses!
Kuoala is the little girl that Fisher Tiger saved and brought back to her family witch lead to his death.
I’ve been studying one piece for 3 yrs and now I’ve finally learning what scenes are by just saying the ch #
Still loving your readthrough Gavin! You said a few times that you have some card packs and sets for the newer card game, right? Any chance you'll do an unboxing/opening video for them once you're all caught up? :D
"I don't think he can get any worse as a person" lmao
Dressrosa was long, but soooo good. I love the comparison Luffy makes between Dressrosa, and the place he grew up.
Honestly your theory about barto post war actually made sense and I’m impressed with the connections you’re able to make 😭
Mr.prince sounds nice
Oohhhh, I have been craving me some Gavin! Perfect timing! This will be enjoyable! (and probably edited as I watch the video)
I can't wait to see your final opinion of Senor Pink.
On Sabo: he will grow on you very quickly.
To the other viewers: cant wait for the next reaction to a certain man's formal introduction into the story..
I second the ranking of princesses idea for a video.
awww, Luffy has a fanboy, I love it!
honestly I love the battle royal so far, I am a sucker for tournaments in stories (one of the Reasons I like Dragon Ball so much xD )
If you go back to Sabaody... when they were looking for the places Camie could be in we also got a glimpse of all the prices for a lot of different races of slaves... "the little people" (dwarves/kobito) were in that list... so were the long neck, long leg, and long arms along with mermaids, fishmen and giants... from memory so some of them might not have been visible...
The string master of toys that is a great quote from the first few minutes so so good
14:30 But Dressrosa is based on Spain, actually. Specifically in Parc Güell, in Barcelona. Barcelona specifically doesn't have a Roman colosseum (but there's one in Tarragona, really closeby), but it does have a much newer one, a bullfighting arena, about 3 miles away from the park. Bullfighting in Spanish, btw, is said "Corrida de Toros", just as in "Corrida Colosseum" in Dressrosa, and that's the reason one of the fighters is Ucy, a bull. The gladiatorial arena is inspired by the Greco-Roman culture, but since they basically owned the whole of Europe, and they built colosseums everywhere, you don't need the setting to be Rome specifically to have the references
BTW, in Dressrosa we have Rebecca, daughter of Scarlet. Scarlet's sister is Violet. Dressrosa is based on Spain. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet is Pokemon Dressrosa
All the toys remember who they were. Sugar forgetting the contract just means that the soldier doesn't have to follow the families orders😊 Absolutly addore your theories though😂😁
please, let me know where you got that hoodie. i need it so bad lol
Did you just forget how being a Warlord was just for Blackbeard to infiltrate Impel Down and how in Fishman Island Jimbei said he's one of the 4 emperors? That alongside with the 3 great powers being the Navy, 7 Warlords and 4 emperors makes it clear you can't be both at once.
Yes Gavin it shows Mingo using his powers in both Marine ford and before to manipulate people.
Its not super obvious and flashy; so your mind being distracted explains how you missed it.
2:02:58 I don’t think this is ever explicitly said to be the case, but if so I do apologize for the minor spoiler. But I think Robin not talking about Sabo to Luffy is pretty simple to explain away. Sabo asked her not to because he figured they’d run into each other at some point, and wanted to do it himself. Also he didn’t want to distract Luffy from his dreams. Also Luffy just does not care about current events, so his conversation with her about the Time Skip probably went something like: “So where did you go during the two years?” “Oh I was with your father and the Revolutionaries.” “Oh that’s cool :) Sanji can I get some meat?!?”
I'm a bit late and haven't had the chance to read through all the comments so someone may have already reminded you but... around the 29 minute mark you mention an Egypt based island... Gav, did you forget Alabasta existed? Edit: lol you mentioned it like 5 minutes right after, must have just slipped your mind.
Gigen how sweet and innocent Gavin is I can't wait to see how he will react to the darkness of Dressrosa.
Did he realize Koala was that girl from Fisher Tiger flashback?
i feel like I've left too many sanji comments but here's an interesting tid bit. i feel lke most people (including me) started feeling weird about sanji after the thriller bark scene in which he reveals that he read through the devil fruit encyclopaedia as a child and decided that devil fruits come with "a curse" so the peepin tom no mi was the only devil fruit he'd eat if he came across it. but previously in baratie, when luffy was about to drown sanji didn't jump in to help him till zeff told him that devil fruit users can't swim. did sanji read the entire devil fruit encyclopaedia without reading what that curse was? not likely..did oda forget that interaction and decided to make a dumb gag and setback the character by 350 chapters? maybe.. but its about time we get a reckoning
I'm ready for the reckoning, and I forgot about that interaction so thanks for reminding me of that, that is interesting and makes me think that yeah maybe Oda did just do that as a dumb joke, which kinda sucks
Ussop fled when Robin was turned to stone was because usoop character development was mostly related with Robin and when Robin was turned to toy, the memory related to Robin became vague.
Did you realize Koala, the girl with Sabo, was the slave kid Fisher Tiger saved? You didn't mention her at all.
Ooh! I'm glad you noticed Franky's work here i honestly forgot how much he actually did here. There's just a whole lot lol
When Bellamy said he lost his crew, i think he meant that his crew didn’t follow him any more. Cuz they are also the ones who laughed at dreams (Skypiea). Maybe only he changed his mind and tried something hard for them to believe.
Tekking 101 is my go to One Piece Info dude 👌🏽
Fun fact: As early as chapter 98 & 99 ( Loguetown) last page Sabo is actually there standing watching luffy's execution