Insta360 X4 vs One RS 1-Inch Edition: 8K vs 1-inch sensor, which is best?

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  • Опубліковано 30 лис 2024

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  • @jaykumarthakore363
    @jaykumarthakore363 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you for your excellent comparison. However, you recommend RS for Virtual Tours but the image comparison showed better from X4 for highlights from door/window which again contradicts. I do have full frame DSLR+Flash for single shots but I am looking to invest in a new Virtual Tour camera but do not want to spend as much as Matterport. Please help to choose and invest in the best between RS vs X4, for the Virtual Tours purpose. Thanking you!

  • @fotisfgg
    @fotisfgg 18 днів тому

    I think this video is by far the most helpful for me! Thanks a lot!

  • @saccaed
    @saccaed 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you so much for doing a sunset timelapse. Exactly what I needed to see as I've been trying to decide between the X4 and RS 1 Inch.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad it was helpful - I was very surprised at that result.

  • @CurtBowenADM
    @CurtBowenADM 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, I've had the RS for about a year and purchased it more for low light better quality video. I just ordered the x4 only for its faster frame rates. As a professional, these cameras have their place for fun brole and action style shots, pro cameras can not get.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comments and for watching.

  • @AndyKow
    @AndyKow 6 місяців тому +4

    Excellent video and comparisons! Thanks for taking the time to share these.

  • @korearoaddriver
    @korearoaddriver 3 місяці тому +2

    This video was very helpful in helping me choose between two cameras
    Perfect comparison !

  • @kevinblanco3244
    @kevinblanco3244 6 місяців тому +4

    Just wish the X4 had a 1inch sensor. Would be perfect

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      Hopefully the next gen.

  • @RealGaryGibson
    @RealGaryGibson 6 місяців тому

    Great comparison! X4 is my pick. Cheaper, smaller, and 8K.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Agreed! The RS just has too many drawbacks.

  • @2222...
    @2222... 6 місяців тому +3

    Great content and comparison 👍👍👍

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it - thanks for watching.

  • @christiankreps5920
    @christiankreps5920 6 місяців тому +2

    Excellent comparison. Thank you. Shame that Insta 360 are letting themselves down so badly with their shady practices.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      I know - I seem to be one of the few "reviewers" who actually purchased the kit!

    • @tulrin
      @tulrin 3 місяці тому +1

      An excellent comparison.
      In all fairness, @BenClaremont does a good job so not everyone is a sellout.

  • @Das644
    @Das644 5 місяців тому +2

    They should make a camera with the x4 specs and 1 inch sensors.

  • @stefanp5261
    @stefanp5261 15 днів тому +1

    The answer to why there is no better quality from an inch matrix lies in the magic word "bitrate". So X4 has 200Mbps, and One rs has 120Mbps. Newer and more efficient electronics have made up for the quality compared to the older One rs.

  • @MusicFed
    @MusicFed 2 місяці тому

    The RS 1-inch seems really good to me. A great little camera

  • @MomentArchives
    @MomentArchives 3 місяці тому +1

    After using RS for just 1 month, I switch to X3 when it was launched. I shoot mainly low-light, but long hours. RS starts overheat 50mins later issue and too heavy for bike mount too. I would have get the X4, if only it comes with 1-inch sensor, was quite disappointed too.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  3 місяці тому +1

      Let's hope the "X5" finally merges the 2 products.

  • @sjordan8487
    @sjordan8487 3 місяці тому

    Very informative and easy to follow review. Liked the nice slow pace of your review as it allowed time to digest the large amount of data

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  3 місяці тому

      Too funny - others have told me to speed up!

  • @scrollop
    @scrollop 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you. The X4 seems to be a disappointment if you read the forums. Apparently canon and quacom (sp) are releasing a new camera soon(ish). Would you recommend waiting?

    • @dethronedemperor2811
      @dethronedemperor2811 6 місяців тому

      I'm waiting for something better, unless you're shooting in 100% sunlight, the X4s image is plagued with noise.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +2

      The X4 might not be perfect, but currently it's probably the best consumer 360 camera on the market (and just to be clear, I am NOT sponsored or in any way connected to Insta360). So far, there is no confirmed date for when (or even if!) these new competitors will be released and there is no reason to assume that they will be any better. Hope that helps.

  • @Ozpeter
    @Ozpeter 6 місяців тому

    What a good, balanced and thoughtful comparison! Not least because you had the X4 set to medium sharpness. That is often just a matter of taste, but in the case of the X4 I get the feeling that it loses detail as well as losing sharpness at the low setting. Sharpness can be recovered in editing but lost detail is gone forever. I have only seen one brief test of this on UA-cam so far but I think it is very important. I think your conclusion was spot on. Put it this way - if you showed non identical clips from each camera, which is the real-world way that people would experience them, would the difference in overall quality be enough to enable viewers to reliably say which was which? Maybe in low light sometimes, but would that be enough to make the higher cost of the One RS justifiable for most users? I suspect not.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      Sounds like we’re on the same page. Thanks for watching and for sharing.

  • @heidelbergproductions5812
    @heidelbergproductions5812 6 місяців тому +2

    What is interesting to me is how much better the UA-cam footage is of everyone who got one of these from Insta360. I bought my x4 based on such reviews. Mine is terrible in low light. I do find the result improve on manual but my 8k has a lot more noise than yours. I set it to 400 iso 1/80 and in the 5.7k I get useable results. Auto mode in low light is terrible. Outdoors and in very good light it is a decent camera.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      I agree 100%. Most of the X4 "reviews" are from professionals, who get the camera free from Insta360 weeks ahead of the launch and spend hours capturing and optimizing their recordings. Don't get me wrong, I love the camera, but I wish Insta360 would cut out the overhyping.

    • @heidelbergproductions5812
      @heidelbergproductions5812 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel Just out of curiosity what were your settings for the low light on the X4. I wanted to use this for weddings but it's marginal even for a well lit church. I can run it through Neat Video or Davinci and see how much that cleans it up. I do also like it outdoors. The main use I have intended for it is the fake drone / crane like shots since more places are banning drones.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      For this test, I had exposure and white balance set to auto to compare how the 2 cameras coped. Also, the sharpness was set to medium.
      If I was looking to optimize, I would try limiting the ISO as low as possible and set sharpness to low. Obviously, anything you can do to add more light will help, but reality is that the X4 will never be great in low light.

    • @heidelbergproductions5812
      @heidelbergproductions5812 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel Thanks!

  • @Mike_Anton
    @Mike_Anton 5 місяців тому

    As others have said, thank you for an excellent, well balanced and comprehensive video. I've only ever shot 360s with DLSRs and am wondering about an all in one device and on balance it seems an X4 would be the more feature rich option

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  4 місяці тому

      I would say that stitching together images from a DSLR will ultimately give you higher quality but a dedicated 360 camera will give you good results with a lot less work.

  • @AegeanEpiphany
    @AegeanEpiphany 3 місяці тому

    Great comparison - Can the RS be housed in a dedicated underwater housing?

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  3 місяці тому

      Yes, and I actually have one I am selling. I will send you the link when I list.

  • @elangrafe
    @elangrafe 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for such great review specially considering same testing conditions for both cameras. I had the 1 inch in the shop cart but changed to the X4, saving some dollars for the beers!

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  5 місяців тому

      Glad I could help. $300 buys quite a few beers!!

  • @alancongratssoonyoullhead5273
    @alancongratssoonyoullhead5273 3 місяці тому

    It was great comparison, thank you 🙏

  • @boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros
    @boutrosboutrosboutrosboutros 2 місяці тому

    Leica did a good job with the 1 inch lens as well. I use that with the original 1R. I would definitely like to get the 1 inch 360 for low light and night photography. The fact is it's very hard to get now if you want to get it it's $1000. For half the price I will take the X4. I'm gonna primarily use it for daytime video. My iPhone takes better stills than either of these. Edit: looks like Insta360 has the standard bundle for $799 again. Still a choice to make, slightly over $300 dif with taxes

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  Місяць тому

      I honestly would not pay the extra for the RS1". Apart from (maybe) slightly better low-light performance, everything else is worse than the X4.

  • @ramama987
    @ramama987 Місяць тому

    The RS is waterproof too though! Same IPX3 rating :)

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  Місяць тому

      No, the RS 1 inch is just water resistant. The X4 is waterproof to 10m.

  • @PS_ily_143
    @PS_ily_143 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for this great review! I appreciate the hard work you put into this video because it really helped me see the differences. I’m a professional photographer so when I hear 1” sensor I automatically think that’s what I need to get but seeing the difference in capabilities helps a lot.
    I was going to purchase the RS 1 but bought the GoPro Max instead because of the dog harness for some specific media I’m building and went back to get the RS 1 for other uses and it’s sold out everywhere and has been for awhile. So my one question for you and anyone else who sees this comment and would like to add their two cents…do you think the next gen Rs 1 will be out soon (during the summer) or should I go ahead and buy the X4?

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      Well, let me start by saying that I have no intel on this, but based on Insta’s typical release cycle, I would say that an update is due. I guess it all depends on whether they intend to continue with that product line. I would be surprised to see another product release so soon, but who knows?!

    • @PS_ily_143
      @PS_ily_143 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel I completely understand - thanks!

  • @mikehanks1399
    @mikehanks1399 5 місяців тому

    Liked and subscribed. I really like your style.

  • @Windsurfingaddict
    @Windsurfingaddict 6 місяців тому

    I would have bought the insta 1 inch but it’s not waterproof so no good for me to windsurf with, so had no choice but to upgrade to X4. No doubt I will bring a waterproof 1 inch sensor out but think it will be expensive. Love the camera your using to make this video and the love the lighting. Also love your videos as know your unbiased views 🥳🥳🥳

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the comments and for watching.

  • @corylair5812
    @corylair5812 6 місяців тому +1

    Love the intro!!!!❤

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      I still can't believe he drank my beer!!

    • @ShlomiArditi
      @ShlomiArditi 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel 😂

  • @johnnielsen5933
    @johnnielsen5933 4 місяці тому

    Excellent comparisons

  • @FilippoRomeoMEZZOTINT
    @FilippoRomeoMEZZOTINT 2 місяці тому

    Surprising comparison. Big disadvantage of the x4 is, that hdr is only as jpg available. What does not make sense. And no way to adjust the bracketing steps at all. Raw photos are only possible as single shot photo. In high contrast situations it was not possible to recover overexposure just with one photo. Here the jpg HDR showed more details and no overexposure happened. But in low light areas the dng photo had not the artifacts, the hdr jpegs showed. I think, the RS has more options to adjust settings for better quality. X4 is mostly a black box, what settings the camera takes. The firmware updates didn't fix this issues till now.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  Місяць тому +1

      Good point - for stills, the RS1" definitely has the edge.

  • @sergiusvysokochtimiy
    @sergiusvysokochtimiy 2 місяці тому

    You forgot to mention that the lens apertures are 1.9 vs. 2.2, which gives the x4 an obvious advantage in low light situations.

  • @pappgyula2541
    @pappgyula2541 Місяць тому

    What no one talks about with the INSTA 360 RS 1" is the recording time of 4 minutes on a 256GB SANDISK SD card and 20 minutes on a 16GB INSTA 360 SD card at 6K@30fps at 20C ambient temperature.

  • @THETRADERTV
    @THETRADERTV 6 місяців тому +1

    Hii sir it is worth to use insta 360 x4 in daily vloging or recoding long videos becz i saw your video on insta 360x4 heating issue and temperature of my area approximately 32 to 35 degree Celsius plss tell me is it worth

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      As good as the X4 is, I would not recommend it for vlogging - something like a DJI Pocket 3 (ua-cam.com/video/E-oTEXqUST0/v-deo.html) will give you much better quality. Only use a 360 camera if you want to be able to choose what direction you want to point at after you record the shot, or for other creative effects.

    • @THETRADERTV
      @THETRADERTV 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel thanks

  • @vikmkstoh
    @vikmkstoh 3 місяці тому

    can we take DNG or raw image format to get highest resolution photo because by default x4 creating low size jpeg but x3 produce DNG also. Please tell how what setting do i need to unable?

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  3 місяці тому

      As far as I can tell, the X4 does not have any option to store a DNG or other file - only the native insp file.

    • @vikmkstoh
      @vikmkstoh 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ttl_channel Thanks for info but I found somethin on
      Yuqing Guo channel video name "8K with AI , Insta360 X4 , the Beginner Guide , Master X4 in 20min"
      at 13:30 he is mentioning some option for PureShot+Raw in 18 MP however I have also confirmed someone there are options for that and its also available for 72 MP.
      My friend told me that there was some recent update in firmware for Insta 360 X4.

  • @nilodallaverita6310
    @nilodallaverita6310 6 місяців тому

    I like 360° video for photos and exporting videos to watch on a 4k TV of my travels and as I already have the RS 1-inch Leica 360 I understand that it's not worth selling it off to buy the X4....

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +1

      That's a tough one to answer. The X4 will offer you better portability, ruggedness, convenience, longer battery and more flexibility with its various filming modes, but for me, the RS 1-inch has the edge when it comes to overall image quality.

  • @waldtradition1166
    @waldtradition1166 6 місяців тому

    The question for me is: Does the X4 overheat easily if you shoot in 8K 200Mb/s? I normally use them on a tripod. The X3 hardly overheats even after 90 min, whereas the RS 1" overheats after 25 min. I have to use a phone cooler together with the RS 1". That complicates the audio setup quite a bit.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      I recently posted this video (ua-cam.com/video/-O7iUXrhK9Y/v-deo.html) specifically on this topic.

  • @z352kdaf8324
    @z352kdaf8324 6 місяців тому +1

    5:28 The diagonal measurements are NOT 1/2" vs 1". It is like .3" vs .62".

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Interesting! Is this the captured area (after cropping for stabilization) or the actual sensor size? What is your source?

    • @z352kdaf8324
      @z352kdaf8324 6 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channel look online about camera sensor sizes. Many resources. First Google 1/2": sensor size. Then 1". Get the mm. Convert to inches

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому

      Great info - thanks.

    • @Ozpeter
      @Ozpeter 6 місяців тому

      Yup, sensor size names can be very misleading. (But they are standard names, not designed to mislead by any particular manufacturer).

  • @MrNeilRoberts
    @MrNeilRoberts 5 місяців тому

    Good to see this type of review … as many have said there is a plethora of dodgy “influencers” out there just ignoring some of the key points … my pet hate at the moment is the lack of Bluetooth remote (and Apple Watch) support so Insta can sell their $$$ gps remote. And when I can on these other channels and whinge about it I get told I’m wrong !? EG Eat Sleep 360 … wth!? 😂

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  5 місяців тому +1

      I know - I cannot believe how many of these "reviewers" are basically getting paid with equipment and still claiming to be unbiased. I seem to be one of a small minority actually buying the kit with my own money. Getting ready to do a review of the new GO 3S!

    • @MrNeilRoberts
      @MrNeilRoberts 5 місяців тому

      @@ttl_channeland for this reason I’m one of your newer subs 😊👍

  • @ararhenju7011
    @ararhenju7011 6 місяців тому

    Which is better if the price is the same?

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  6 місяців тому +2

      Good question, but same answer: if your specialty is virtual tours or low light work, the RS, otherwise the X4.

  • @ContentCreator
    @ContentCreator 6 місяців тому

    Excellent 👌🏻

  • @IntrovertMaxxing
    @IntrovertMaxxing 6 місяців тому

    Nicely done

  • @nicklover9565
    @nicklover9565 6 місяців тому

    Nice video 👍

  • @WiljanWiljan
    @WiljanWiljan 5 місяців тому

    One more reason to wait for the X5 with 1 inch sensors

  • @LPB2008
    @LPB2008 4 місяці тому

    At 9:38, you say that you set the highest bit rate on both cameras. I have the One RS 1-Inch edition, and don't see a setting for video bit rate. I only see a setting for the resolution and frame rate. Do you assume a higher bit rate by selecting a higher resolution and frame rate, or is there a bit rate setting somewhere in some menu I never looked?

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  4 місяці тому +1

      The X4 (and X3) has a setting to select between "high" and "standard" bitrate. I think this option is not available on the RS 1-inch, so it always records in the "high" mode.

  • @leventbey
    @leventbey 4 місяці тому

    Want to hear a weird fact? One X has way more better image quality than X4. I know no one is gonna believe me but compare and see.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  4 місяці тому +1

      Interesting. Unfortunately, I dont have aOne X to test.

  • @christopherdeaver5372
    @christopherdeaver5372 16 днів тому

    Insta360 does not even provide support for the one rs 1 inch 360 camera. I got the camera 8 months ago and they do not even sell extra batteries anymore. If your battery dies your camera dies. Fact check me. I own 6 of their cameras. If they do not support their product line with batteries, they market on a predatory basis.

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  16 днів тому +1

      Honestly, I think the RS 1-inch turned out to be a bit too niche, which is why its days are probably numbered. That said, Insta does not have a good record with accessory compatibility between generations. Let’s hope this is something that improves going forward.

  • @modisworld5114
    @modisworld5114 2 місяці тому

    I just bought an insta x4 from dubai and bought it to Mozambique. I used it for the first time today and went on q boat ride in the Indian ocean . As soon as I entered the water and went underwater in less than 1 meter of water . The insta 360
    X4 !! Switched off!! Now it does not switch on nor does it charge !! It is basically dead !! What kind of a product is insta 360 x 4 !!! Making why do they advertise that it is water proof in 10 meters of water ! Who the fxxxxxk will pay for my loss !! Insta 360 x4 ! Do you think this is cool ?? I will keep on giving bad reviews about your product on all social media accounts ! And I am not the only one who has this problem !!! Many have faced similar issues !! How will you replace or reimburse us . Understand from Reddit that your customer care also is not good . Please help us !!

    • @ttl_channel
      @ttl_channel  2 місяці тому +1

      I feel your pain - hopefully Insta360 sees this and addresses it.

  • @Upnorth_overland
    @Upnorth_overland Місяць тому

    I would say both provide unacceptable results, especially for the $$$. Even in perfect conditions the footage has terrible detail and is barely better than security camera footage.

  • @flamindonuts666
    @flamindonuts666 5 місяців тому

    Thank youu for explaination..

  • @proshoot4u909
    @proshoot4u909 Місяць тому

    Thank you for your excellent comparison. However, you recommend RS for Virtual Tours but the image comparison showed better from X4 for highlights from door/window which again contradicts. For Real Estate Photography, I do have full frame DSLR+Flash for single shots but I am looking to invest in a new Virtual Tour camera but do not want to spend as much as Matterport. Kindly help to choose and invest in the best between RS vs X4, for the Virtual Tours purpose. Thanking you!