The GREATEST NASCAR Finale Of the Modern Era?

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    The NASCAR Playoffs have held fans to opposite ends of the opinion scale for decades now. This weekend heading to the Homestead-Miami Speedway it has been nearly 20 years since the inaugural NASCAR Playoffs finale, or as they were known as then, the inaugural NASCAR Chase for the NEXTEL Cup finale. So today we are going to look back at this historic race and see just how the 2004 Ford 400 is so special and changed the game forever for NASCAR. We look at what might be the greatest NASCAR finale of the modern era?
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  • @TheIceberg
    @TheIceberg  11 місяців тому +21

    What do you think the greatest NASCAR finales are?

    • @Dupontman627
      @Dupontman627 11 місяців тому +2

      Jeff Gordon's 1998 Atlanta win

    • @revrasheemstewart
      @revrasheemstewart 11 місяців тому +5

      1992 Hooters 500 @ Atlanta 😊

    • @noahcoleman5556
      @noahcoleman5556 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm going with the 2 obvious ones: 1992 and 2011.

    • @erikeidsmoe6165
      @erikeidsmoe6165 11 місяців тому

      They don't matter, all that matters is McDowell Supremacy!

    • @tobiojo6469
      @tobiojo6469 11 місяців тому +2

      2011.

  • @johnvandeventer8668
    @johnvandeventer8668 11 місяців тому +77

    What happened with Kurt Busch with that tire was one of the most luckiest things in NASCAR history in my opinion. Tire came off, he barely missed the water barrels, the tire came onto the track which caused a caution, and he stayed on the lead lap

    • @gojeffgordon24
      @gojeffgordon24 11 місяців тому +7

      Still a sore point if you were a Jeff Gordon fan…would have likely had 5 if not for that lucky tire.

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому +3

      @@gojeffgordon24As a Kurt fan on the other hand, it’s my favorite moment ever along with his 17 Daytona win 😂

    • @gojeffgordon24
      @gojeffgordon24 11 місяців тому +1

      @@LessGo7921 I was watching this race with a friend who was a Kurt fan…I was not a happy camper. I will say over the years I got to like Kurt a bit better, but didn’t have a great opinion of him when this race was happening.

    • @allabouthewaves4354
      @allabouthewaves4354 11 місяців тому +2

      @@gojeffgordon24You mean Johnson fans. Johnson was 2nd in points.

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому +1

      @@gojeffgordon24 you do realize that was Johnson behind Kurt by 8 points also? If Kurt’s “lucky” tire wasn’t so lucky, there’s also a chance Jimmie would have 8
      Even revisionist history doesn’t fully work here

  • @JohnTheodore
    @JohnTheodore 11 місяців тому +1

    It's interesting that the first finale of the Chase format was one of the best - the only one that was better was 2011 - and the first attempt at a Championship 4 race in 2014 was also the best that format has had, I think.

  • @TerminalSports45
    @TerminalSports45 10 місяців тому

    the first showing that the chase was illegitimate, Gordon is the champion under the Winston format.

  • @brom1491
    @brom1491 11 місяців тому

    2016 and 2009 finale

  • @Tcottong
    @Tcottong 11 місяців тому +25

    2004 is a great one that gets overlooked. I think 92 will always be #1, and 2011 #2. This has gotta be #3 though

  • @idkIamBORED
    @idkIamBORED 11 місяців тому +31

    1992 Is probably the best championship fight and race of Nascar history
    But everyone forgets about
    04 05 06 07 10 11 14 and 16. All great fights and days to be Nascar fans

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 11 місяців тому +7

      Everyone remembers 2016. If that late caution that set up the restart where Edwards wrexked hadn't happened, it would be forgotten

    • @idkIamBORED
      @idkIamBORED 11 місяців тому +3

      @@doomusrlc I am more talking about the playoffs. It's in my opinion the best playoffs under the bracket format.( Outside and even arguably 2014) but no one talks about it. But yes that race is iconic for multiple reasons

  • @k18rock22
    @k18rock22 11 місяців тому +9

    Stewart vs Edwards. Literally tied at the end of the race. That's what I think lead to the current format we have. For that "game 7" moment

    • @andypowell4702
      @andypowell4702 11 місяців тому

      As a huge fan of Edwards I hated seeing the, Carl deserved a championship but it was such an epic battle that I can't be mad. The run Stewart had in the 10 race chase format that year was insane, that was one of the best hot streaks I've ever seen. Watching Carl run an inch off the wall up high at Homestead trying to catch Stewart was so cool to watch.

  • @nomadman5288
    @nomadman5288 11 місяців тому +6

    What people didn't know or and many still aren't aware of is that Ryan Newman also had 7 finishes of 37th or worse and an average finish over 3 spots lower than Matt. He was over two races behind after the final race and Matt even had a DNF that race, but so did Newman... That's the story that didn't seem to be told about that season.

  • @jamesburroughs3813
    @jamesburroughs3813 11 місяців тому +3

    As a Gordon fan, this one still stings. Not so much this race but the previous race at Darlington where the pit crew got the hose hung under the tire. Cost Gordon i believe at least 15 points if not 20. Would have been the difference probably.

  • @NASCARFAN93100
    @NASCARFAN93100 11 місяців тому +3

    Fun Fact: The 2004 Ford 400 would be the last race for Terry Labonte driving the 5 Car for Hendrick Motorsports

  • @Maverick33
    @Maverick33 11 місяців тому +2

    This race is why Homestead got lights installed. Look at the darkness closing in at the end. 2005-2009, 2011-2019 finales at Homestead all had night time finishes

  • @hairywolfman3160
    @hairywolfman3160 11 місяців тому +6

    Maybe not a single race but the 2010 Chase is extremely underrated to me. You have Jimmie Johnson having broken the consecutive title record the year before, everyone thinking the 11 would be his greatest challenge and then needing knee surgery early in the season, the resurgence of Harvick for one of his best pre title seasons. But then the Chase itself was wild. You have a crazy final 100 laps at New Hampshire just for the winner to be penalized after, multiple chasers losing engines at Cali, Jamie McMurray winning Charlotte, Hamlin coming thru at Martinsville to close the points, the chaos of Talladega with the 48 playing safe, the 11 losing a lap, the 29 getting damaged, all three coming out within reach.
    Then Texas. Boy oh boy that Texas race!! Trevor Bayne debut, all three title guys at the back, Biffle dominating early, Kyle speeding on pit road and flipping the bird on TV and being held two laps for it. Burton accidentally wrecking Gordon under caution and Gordon rightly instigating the shoving match afterwards, Chad Knaus taking the 24 pit crew afterwards. All while the championship 3 make their way to the front but as the 11 takes the lead with the 17 running him down the caution flies. Jimmie staying out but Harvick and everyone behind him taking tires and the 16 restarting in front of him who is missing 2nd gear. Hamlin and Kenseth have an epic two lap duel for the finish while Jimmie desperately tries to hold on to every point he can, but the race ends with a change in championship leader.
    But then there's Phoenix where the 48 again lacks speed where the 11 dominates, but they miscalculate the fuel strategy and allow the 48 to close to within 15 points going into homestead, and the 29 still less then 50 behind.
    To me, the 2010 Chase was like Super Bowl 49 only spread out over 10 races. 2004 may be more fondly remembered and 2011 may be the actual closest finish but 2010 was, in my opinion, the closest battle between the three best teams all year long. None of them snuck up out of nowhere, and they didn't need elimination races or stages to develop drama. It happened naturally.

    • @kjprodouctions9050
      @kjprodouctions9050 11 місяців тому +1

      That was definitely one of the best ones. I just wish I was able to see it. I only just started watching Nascar at the time, but only saw 4 races on TV. The Daytona 500, the Kobalt Tools 500 at Atlanta in March, the Subway 500 in Phoenix in April, and the Talladega spring race. Also, as much as I like both the original Chase format of 10(later on would be 12 in 2008), drivers competing for the championship and the elimination style format, I do like the original format more mostly because of nostalgia growing up with it from 2011-2013.

    • @hairywolfman3160
      @hairywolfman3160 11 місяців тому +1

      @@kjprodouctions9050 Actually the full Texas Chase race that I went on in detail about is uploaded on the NASCAR UA-cam channel. I forget the exact title, but I just do a search for 2010 Texas Chase race, the thumbnail is the Gordon and Burton wreck. The entire chase was pretty awesome, but that race perhaps best encapsulated the championship battle, minus Hamlin losing the lead at Homestead.

    • @kjprodouctions9050
      @kjprodouctions9050 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hairywolfman3160 I know it's on UA-cam. I just meant the Chase in 2010 was definitely one of the best ones of the Chase era

  • @cito1101
    @cito1101 11 місяців тому +7

    If I recall correctly, Kurt missed the barrels by about 6 inches, going by what I heard before on the Nostalgic TV Show that used to come on the now defunct Speed Channel "The 10"

    • @austinemms9772
      @austinemms9772 11 місяців тому +1

      Just proves that the finale was a race of inches.
      I’m sorry, I’ll go.

    • @Mattgotsdagreenlight
      @Mattgotsdagreenlight 11 місяців тому +3

      I remember watching this on TV I have my eye on Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson I booed when Kurt Busch won

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому

      @@Mattgotsdagreenlightthat’s tough. Bcs I was happy af when he beat 2 Hendrick guys 😂

    • @Mattgotsdagreenlight
      @Mattgotsdagreenlight 11 місяців тому

      @@LessGo7921 but in the long run I grew out of my hatred for Kurt Busch. But no matter what happened that day it was definitely a great championship race

  • @chrisguardiano6143
    @chrisguardiano6143 11 місяців тому +5

    This race, the very tragic 2011 Indycar season finale in Vegas (in which Dan Wheldon was killed) & the extremely controversial Abu Dhabi GP a couple of years ago in F1 are the season finales I remember the most. That 2011 Indycar season finale I particularly remember quite well because I watched it live & because of the $5 million in prize money that was offered to the winner which became absolutely meaningless after the accident that killed Dan Wheldon. Looking back it is one of the stupidest/dangerous things Indycar has ever done in my view especially having that many cars on a track like Vegas.

    • @Maverick33
      @Maverick33 11 місяців тому +5

      How can you not remember the 2011 NASCAR finale??? They literally ended up tied in points and had to resort to who had more race wins

  • @naparacingfan9275
    @naparacingfan9275 11 місяців тому +8

    If only Dale Jr won the championship in 2004. Kurt Busch earned it though. Wild he lost a tire going on to pit road and still won the title.

    • @Tristin471
      @Tristin471 11 місяців тому

      _Sad Dale Jr noises_

  • @D2RCR
    @D2RCR 11 місяців тому +2

    It's a toss-up between this race and 2011 for me. 2021 Xfinity finale is up there too.

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 11 місяців тому +2

    To be fair it started around 2000 when NASCAR wanted to shake up the points format and stop runaway champions. Kenseth was just the last one, and he's said in interviews with Scene Vault/DJD and others that Brianc France was sick of everyoen talking about points and wanting wins to matter, and yet here we are years later talking about points every week of the playoffs, who is in, who is out

  • @zachrobinson344
    @zachrobinson344 11 місяців тому +6

    As a Gordon fan watching that tire come off of Kurt’s car was so gut wrenching. Just another one of Gordon’s 7 titles that was taken away.

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому

      Gordon choked it himself

  • @rcguy902
    @rcguy902 11 місяців тому +5

    Dale jr got cheated out of the title he deserved it but Nascar gave him 2 bs points penalties and carl Edward's dumping him at Atlanta

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому

      Kurt earned it buddy 😂

    • @rcguy902
      @rcguy902 11 місяців тому

      @LessGo7921 no he did not as I said jr was cheated by 2 made up penalties

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому

      @@rcguy902 and as I said, you are wrong 😂

    • @rcguy902
      @rcguy902 11 місяців тому

      @LessGo7921 as I said no I'm correct you are wrong

    • @rcguy902
      @rcguy902 11 місяців тому

      @LessGo7921 4 likes on my comment shows I'm correct people agree with me but nobody with you

  • @riverakers
    @riverakers 11 місяців тому +1

    Now they would have penalized Kurt Busch for losing a tire and Jeff Gordon would have won.

  • @taylorbertrim7625
    @taylorbertrim7625 11 місяців тому +3

    Can you do a video on the 1998,1999,2000,2001 points differences before all this talk about switching back to points.... Yes it's tight now, the system is built for wins to get in, not points.
    (Noticing a lot of videos suggesting switching back)

  • @gorjlg
    @gorjlg 11 місяців тому +2

    2011 was a good one. It had rain too.

  • @hooters9800
    @hooters9800 11 місяців тому +3

    Even to this day I still call it the chase for the cup instead of the “playoffs” seems more nostalgic that way 👍

  • @SuperNASCARrocks
    @SuperNASCARrocks 11 місяців тому +4

    One of the greatest NASCAR season finales ever.

  • @jeffy4368
    @jeffy4368 11 місяців тому +1

    Imagine if his tire fell off with todays rules, tht would be a major dissapointment

  • @Markkos1992
    @Markkos1992 11 місяців тому +1

    Brendan Gaughan finished 6th?

  • @AndyFromBeaverton
    @AndyFromBeaverton 11 місяців тому +1

    The luckiest championship ever!
    2:14 Is that the trained assassin dispatched on covert missions around the world?

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому +1

      You sound mad. Also he didn’t meet that lying criminal Patricia until like 2012

  • @Kasey_kahne9
    @Kasey_kahne9 11 місяців тому

    2004 dale jr champion !
    Daytona 500
    Talladega
    Bristol
    Phoenix
    Richmond
    Atlanta

  • @taylorbertrim7625
    @taylorbertrim7625 11 місяців тому +1

    That tire almost beat him off pit road LMFAO

  • @onekoolmedic
    @onekoolmedic 11 місяців тому

    Yup and with out the playoffs Kurt Busch and a few others would never be champion. Pretty lucky.

  • @seen48
    @seen48 11 місяців тому

    First year of a NEW playoff format, going away from season long points totals and it’s the HIGHEST finally ever for TV attendance. No kidding! I’m a fan of the NASCAR changes over the years, keep it interesting. Sure some have been more popular than others and I’m not really a fan of the final four where the highest running driver wins. I think there should be some advantages however small for 1 through 4 maybe based on something they did in the playoffs or playoff points gained in the playoffs count in the finale? Something.

  • @Brett_Baker_
    @Brett_Baker_ 11 місяців тому

    My personal pics for the greatest Chase era championship fights would have to be 2011 at the top 2012 in second and then 2004 in third

  • @dageanhardy8929
    @dageanhardy8929 11 місяців тому

    i think if all drivers treat the "finale" like its begginning of they yr and 32 drivers dont lay down there is the potential for an epic race.

  • @Zyairelitboy
    @Zyairelitboy 11 місяців тому +2

    If Nascar didn't go to the chase format Jeff Gordon would've gotten his 5 championship. Jeff Gordon was robbed.

    • @LessGo7921
      @LessGo7921 11 місяців тому

      Jeff’s real “robbery” was 2007 and maybe 14. Choking 2004 was something he and his crew brought upon themselves

  • @michaelatkinson6730
    @michaelatkinson6730 11 місяців тому

    This one pissed me off. After Kurt won the championship the network cut away and I didnt get to see the celebration.

    • @Maverick33
      @Maverick33 11 місяців тому +1

      NFL Sunday Night Football will always get priority

  • @kangarooswild
    @kangarooswild 11 місяців тому

    also the greatest Chase overall as the unpredictability of the inaugural Chase lived up to the hype NASCAR was dreaming of...

  • @mrbadguy5040
    @mrbadguy5040 11 місяців тому

    0:43 shocking

  • @josephpisciotta6022
    @josephpisciotta6022 11 місяців тому +1

    This was also the weekend JR and the Eurys were just at each others throat. I’m sure that didn’t help in the race either.

    • @dsz2448
      @dsz2448 11 місяців тому +1

      Even hearing Jr talk about that, it’s weird. By far their best year, they just won Phoenix, and all of a sudden they can’t even look at each other? Makes you wonder what really happened that week in between

    • @josephpisciotta6022
      @josephpisciotta6022 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dsz2448 I agree wonder what have happened if they didn’t fight. May have had a better chance. Or maybe even 05 being a breakout year even tho we know it wasn’t.

    • @dsz2448
      @dsz2448 11 місяців тому +2

      @@josephpisciotta6022 I believe if the Eurys and Jr stayed together, they'd have won a title. In 2004, they were bad fast and Jr even started doing really well on road courses. I think 2005 could have been special. But we'll never know.

  • @MidTennPews
    @MidTennPews 11 місяців тому

    I was at the spring Bristol race that year with my dad. Saw Kurt win that day too.

  • @jeffktown
    @jeffktown 11 місяців тому

    I still vaguely remember this race, even at the young age of 5

  • @GoobiesFunZone
    @GoobiesFunZone 11 місяців тому

    I forgot that back then homestead was a banked track

  • @Tomsbananacakes
    @Tomsbananacakes 11 місяців тому

    What about the greatest final 4?

  • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
    @runrafarunthebestintheworld 11 місяців тому

    I still don't know how Jeff Gordon didn't win the title in 2004 even though he finished ahead of Kurt on the track. It really confused me as a young Gordon fan. Also the race was taking too long for my liking too.
    Another thing to point out is when Homestead Miami added banking to the track could've also added lights to the track so that the truck series race doesn't start late Friday afternoon but they didn't and took them until 2005 for lights.

    • @dsz2448
      @dsz2448 11 місяців тому +3

      The first of 3 titles he got screwed out of. Of course, without the late damage at Dega and the busted shock at Atlanta, he’d have won it going away. The one that kills me is 2007. Aside from being far and away the best all year, his Chase stats were: 9 top 10s, worst finish 11th, with 2 wins and he STILL got 2nd. Complete bullshit

    • @Midnite24
      @Midnite24 11 місяців тому +3

      Gordon gave away the title that year. He dominated Kansas all 3 years, but in 2004 finished 14th. Pitted for fresh tires at Talladega (the year tires meant everything at the plate tracks) and only moved up 4 spots in 5 laps (3 of those were wrecked cars). Atlanta, broke a gear leaving the pits. Darlington, crew gets the air hose stuck on the final stop after he dominated, finished 3rd. Even 9th at Martinsville is below average for him. At the time it seemed like a "oh well, we'll get them next year", but now it looks like a huge missed opportunity.

  • @raykreiger4123
    @raykreiger4123 11 місяців тому

    possibly

  • @mitchbrown6652
    @mitchbrown6652 11 місяців тому

    How did roush racing fall off so bad? You got a video on that? lol