Absolutely not Andrew! The human creativity aspect is compromised and lost once AI is embraced. What the artist offers is his/her own interpretation of the beauty of life. Why would anyone embrace an artificial intelligence technology to do their work for them? It's no longer their work! I'm glad you've taken a hard stance against this as it will only diminish your work. It will no longer be your work... but that of some artificial entity. Who needs that? And how could you derive any satisfaction from allowing some artificial entity to influence your work? How can AI "feel" beauty? That's a human quality that only humanity can experience. On a different point: it saddens me to see you and other artists bash photography in your interviews, all the while using it to draw from in the studio... not to mention the fact that your painting seems to be moving in a much more photorealistic direction. Why try and imitate photography when you have such a low opinion of it, yet try and do what photography can do better? I was hoping to see your work evolve more in the direction of Sorolla, as you have a talent that I've not seen in any other painter. I've written you personally expressing my admiration for your work, and you've been kind enough to answer me, so I hope you take this as constructive criticism as I have huge admiration for your painting.
AI can be a valuable addition to human creativity, providing new perspectives, techniques and ideas for creating art. Instead of destroying art, AI promotes the evolution of art and the way we experience and create art. that's how I look at it.
Hard no. If it could be done, I'd like to see the entirety of AI burnt to the ground. Humanity needs less technology, not more. We've become silos, gazing at the world through screens and devices. And now with AI "art", is the exercise here to see just how much of the human process can be stripped away? I'm an illustrator, I find the entire thing straight up vile.
We all have become materialistic, and we forgot about our natural beginnings, "nature." I'm glad my youngest daughter still plays in her room and uses her imagination without devices.
I’m in the middle of this and Christopher is talking about losing authenticity to please our audience and that folks can tell when we’re not being authentic. Andrew, you also talked about getting off the hamster wheel. I’ve been there and I think many of us who have an online presence end up there. I do believe that social media re-wires our brains in a bad way. It seems to create FOMO in me pretty easily when I’m scrolling too much. Andrew, I do enjoy your long podcasts and demos because it causes me to sit down and concentrate on what’s being said and shown for a time. I get myself a mug of coffee and plan to listen or watch intently. It’s relaxing. I’ve got to get back go who I was a decade ago. Love what Christopher is saying about getting into nature without being connected.
I create commissions of people's past and present family together, and a great use for AI I've found is image enhancement which has enabled me to use really old photos as reference photos that were previously too blurry to see any detail. I always go back and forth with the client to make sure it still looks like them, as the AI enhancement does have a way of 'deadening' faces. But I definitely think it can have some positive uses. It will never replace real human connection, which I think is what we achieve when creating a piece of artwork with our hands and souls.
I’ve seen this Venetian plastering.Avery interesting finish. And is buffed to a mirror finish. I was actually doing this in the 80s in a villa in Cypress.
mentioning 'reset' and 'everything settling into place' in the same sentence unsettles me:) - part of being human is chaos, spontaneity and synchronicity - we've lost so much of this since the advent of the internet and mobile phones, let alone ai - we used to tap into a 'flow' - you'd go out as a teen without perhaps knowing if your friend would be there - maybe you'd bump into someone else and have a crazy unexpected night...now...well...you know the rest. I feel sad for my kids that they never experienced the world like this. Great chat btw - really enjoying these.
I wonder If any of you have discovered the channel "Cave of Apelles" here on UA-cam. There are obviously so many young artist searching for new ways of implementing beauty in their works.And the world is going to need hope in the coming years.
Very engaging and overwhelmingly inspirational in a good way..topics hit all points in artistic issues...great podcast I've been needing for a long time.great conversation.
I think the same as photography, AI will never replace real handcrafted art. But it could be another tool in the toolbox if used wisely. I experiment with MidJourney and find it useful to create quick sketches from my own reference photos as the foundation. You can then use these, as one or part of the series of references used in the creation of an artwork. Important that these tools, including photography, are not used as the foundation to teach art. Once a student learns the foundations of drawing, composition, and masters the techniques of painting then one can add these tools without compromising their own creativity. Same for any other tool that uses AI. For example, writing and text-to-voice tools can be also useful for people whose primary language is not English, to enhance their products. Again, without relying entirely on the actual AI application, but just as an additional tool.
Articulate, authentic … you both are so appreciated by sharing your experiences and thoughts! Artists of your caliber should have patrons who support those creative endeavors so your time isn’t wasted on the marketing side. This was the BEST video ever for me!! I can relate. I’ve been painting for 60 years!
Finding the connection to Beauty is simply rediscovering the Beautiful within us all which we all share. Painting is just an expression of sharing our Beauty through the Art of Lanscape painting in my case.❤
Morning Andrew and Chris. Advanced digital is good. But, natural old school hand painting is more from out of the artist's hand, aye, and a bit of his soul in each painting.
As time goes on, it just gets harder to sell real art. People would sooner buy prints and it doesn't matter if it was actually painted by someone or computer generated, now we compete with AI. The powers that be are destroying everything including creativity. You can now take a photograph and with a click of a button, it can be made to look like a painting...
Such a great interview..I think I'll need to listen to it again as there were some great topics discussed. Really enjoy listening to these podcasts. They are inspiring and get me thinking about stuff that I might not be thinking about. Thank you Andrew and Christopher.
I think you are absolutely correct. We should lean into our humaness. I think the danger of AI in art is the fact that humans will use it in unethical ways. Meaning they will become vampires that will suck the lifeblood out of artists work, reproduce it, steal it and make deep fakes. It needs regulation but I dont see how regulation can happen quick enough to protect artists incomes. Many peoples income will be impacted by AI. Hopefully the love that artists have for just the physical act of painting, finding the ' catch light' from an image, mining out the beauty and enhancing it with the craft of painting is something that will remain a treasure. Its like the synthetic diamond thing. Would you give the live of your life a synthetic diamond ring?? The problem is. . .how do you tell the difference?
Another thiught on AI. It will make Universal Basic Income a absolute necessity as so many jobs are going to evaporate. U BI will free humanity from a lot of soulless slavery shootme now jobs. This will give humans a guaranteed income to free them up and do the thing that makes them happy and joyous, like painting, sculpting what ever. This has got to be goid for sales as thebest way to become sensitive to artisticbeauty is by trying to produce it yourself !
Hey Andrew thank you for doing this interview I really got a lot out of this I have connected with Chris and he's really nice person love his work. I am just wondering if you have thought about interviewing Mark Waller, He is a true master of water painting if I have ever saw one. I hear a lot of the idea "next level " on here about painters. Well if you decide to interview Mark, I guarantee you, you will not be disappointed bare in mind I haven't asked him about this. I just think he is a modern day master.
As an artist I hear alot of people mentioning “connections with the story of your art” what if your art literally doesn’t have a story? What if you simply like to create weird surreal and creepy things because it is just what you enjoy? Not all of my pieces have this “deep meaning” and story behind them. Its very rewashed broad answer to the questions related to how to get started with selling your art. There has to be another answer lol
I think it’s a huge subject. I think it’s a marmite subject. You love it or hate it .I personally think it can be used for great things ,but also could soon get out of control on the human input. When people on the cutting edge are frightened of where it could go . You have to be alarmed. And will it mean the end of human labour. And will probably be used in warfare. A machine has no feelings or limits if it self teaches.
I think bringing a scene of beauty to a canvas is art .And definitely for people like me who has little chance to see is a great experience and inspires emotion,and makes me want to visit.And yes the banana art is just to do with art curruption.
Chat GPT puts some really fast bodies of text in front of you, however, this puts you into "edit" mode, and takes the "writing" mode away from you... For me, editing is the part I dislike about the writing process, and if I did not write is to begin with? Yeah, screw that. So writing will not change for me. Using image generator is more like taking an image to start with, or finding some reference, I can take that and use it as a part of, or as a guide to make my own sketch, or to produce a painting from as a sketch. Same but totally different work flow and feel for me.
What do you think? Should we embrace A.I?
No!!!
Absolutely not Andrew! The human creativity aspect is compromised and lost once AI is embraced. What the artist offers is his/her own interpretation of the beauty of life. Why would anyone embrace an artificial intelligence technology to do their work for them? It's no longer their work! I'm glad you've taken a hard stance against this as it will only diminish your work. It will no longer be your work... but that of some artificial entity. Who needs that? And how could you derive any satisfaction from allowing some artificial entity to influence your work? How can AI "feel" beauty? That's a human quality that only humanity can experience.
On a different point: it saddens me to see you and other artists bash photography in your interviews, all the while using it to draw from in the studio... not to mention the fact that your painting seems to be moving in a much more photorealistic direction. Why try and imitate photography when you have such a low opinion of it, yet try and do what photography can do better? I was hoping to see your work evolve more in the direction of Sorolla, as you have a talent that I've not seen in any other painter. I've written you personally expressing my admiration for your work, and you've been kind enough to answer me, so I hope you take this as constructive criticism as I have huge admiration for your painting.
@@lawrencebeck4777 Great point Lawrence!
AI can be a valuable addition to human creativity, providing new perspectives, techniques and ideas for creating art. Instead of destroying art, AI promotes the evolution of art and the way we experience and create art. that's how I look at it.
Hard no. If it could be done, I'd like to see the entirety of AI burnt to the ground. Humanity needs less technology, not more. We've become silos, gazing at the world through screens and devices. And now with AI "art", is the exercise here to see just how much of the human process can be stripped away? I'm an illustrator, I find the entire thing straight up vile.
So many golden nuggets in this podcast. Truly inspiring.
This podcast soo interesting mainly due to the way you two guys interacted with each other, hats off to both of you!
We all have become materialistic, and we forgot about our natural beginnings, "nature." I'm glad my youngest daughter still plays in her room and uses her imagination without devices.
I’m in the middle of this and Christopher is talking about losing authenticity to please our audience and that folks can tell when we’re not being authentic. Andrew, you also talked about getting off the hamster wheel. I’ve been there and I think many of us who have an online presence end up there. I do believe that social media re-wires our brains in a bad way. It seems to create FOMO in me pretty easily when I’m scrolling too much. Andrew, I do enjoy your long podcasts and demos because it causes me to sit down and concentrate on what’s being said and shown for a time. I get myself a mug of coffee and plan to listen or watch intently. It’s relaxing. I’ve got to get back go who I was a decade ago. Love what Christopher is saying about getting into nature without being connected.
I create commissions of people's past and present family together, and a great use for AI I've found is image enhancement which has enabled me to use really old photos as reference photos that were previously too blurry to see any detail. I always go back and forth with the client to make sure it still looks like them, as the AI enhancement does have a way of 'deadening' faces. But I definitely think it can have some positive uses. It will never replace real human connection, which I think is what we achieve when creating a piece of artwork with our hands and souls.
Terrific conversation, and very edifying 👏👏👏
I’ve seen this Venetian plastering.Avery interesting finish. And is buffed to a mirror finish. I was actually doing this in the 80s in a villa in Cypress.
Really great conversation, I really like the advice of writing so that you would be better able to discuss your art. ❤
mentioning 'reset' and 'everything settling into place' in the same sentence unsettles me:) - part of being human is chaos, spontaneity and synchronicity - we've lost so much of this since the advent of the internet and mobile phones, let alone ai - we used to tap into a 'flow' - you'd go out as a teen without perhaps knowing if your friend would be there - maybe you'd bump into someone else and have a crazy unexpected night...now...well...you know the rest. I feel sad for my kids that they never experienced the world like this. Great chat btw - really enjoying these.
I can't remember a more wonderful interview ever, just loved it!!!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
I wonder If any of you have discovered the channel "Cave of Apelles" here on UA-cam. There are obviously so many young artist searching for new ways of implementing beauty in their works.And the world is going to need hope in the coming years.
It's enlightening.....but enough of them... paint for us brother...eagerly awaiting your latest masterpiece..
Loved the conversation and the paintings of the guest artist 😊.
AI dont pay taxes
🙂👍🎨🖌️❤ Очень много интересного больше Спасибо.
Very engaging and overwhelmingly inspirational in a good way..topics hit all points in artistic issues...great podcast I've been needing for a long time.great conversation.
I think the same as photography, AI will never replace real handcrafted art. But it could be another tool in the toolbox if used wisely. I experiment with MidJourney and find it useful to create quick sketches from my own reference photos as the foundation. You can then use these, as one or part of the series of references used in the creation of an artwork. Important that these tools, including photography, are not used as the foundation to teach art. Once a student learns the foundations of drawing, composition, and masters the techniques of painting then one can add these tools without compromising their own creativity. Same for any other tool that uses AI. For example, writing and text-to-voice tools can be also useful for people whose primary language is not English, to enhance their products. Again, without relying entirely on the actual AI application, but just as an additional tool.
Wonderful and awesome to know another professional painter
Wow ! What a painting !
Thank you for bringing different artists into focus
Enjoying your podcast so much !
Informative video. Thank you ,Andrew❤
What a great chat. Enjoyed it immensely Andrew. So nice to hear about the process and experimentation artists do.
Articulate, authentic … you both are so appreciated by sharing your experiences and thoughts! Artists of your caliber should have patrons who support those creative endeavors so your time isn’t wasted on the marketing side. This was the BEST video ever for me!! I can relate. I’ve been painting for 60 years!
Finding the connection to Beauty is simply rediscovering the Beautiful within us all which we all share. Painting is just an expression of sharing our Beauty through the Art of Lanscape painting in my case.❤
This episode REALLY blow my mind! The mediums and the atelier tips and insights was just pure gold! THANK YOU BOTH!
What a treat listening to these two phenomenal artists! Thankyou!!
Morning Andrew and Chris. Advanced digital is good. But, natural old school hand painting is more from out of the artist's hand, aye, and a bit of his soul in each painting.
Andrew your new lightning in studio is amazing ❤❤❤, keep doing 🎉🎉
❤first comment.😊
Speed machine!
🖤👏
As time goes on, it just gets harder to sell real art. People would sooner buy prints and it doesn't matter if it was actually painted by someone or computer generated, now we compete with AI. The powers that be are destroying everything including creativity. You can now take a photograph and with a click of a button, it can be made to look like a painting...
Such a great interview..I think I'll need to listen to it again as there were some great topics discussed. Really enjoy listening to these podcasts. They are inspiring and get me thinking about stuff that I might not be thinking about. Thank you Andrew and Christopher.
I think you are absolutely correct. We should lean into our humaness. I think the danger of AI in art is the fact that humans will use it in unethical ways. Meaning they will become vampires that will suck the lifeblood out of artists work, reproduce it, steal it and make deep fakes. It needs regulation but I dont see how regulation can happen quick enough to protect artists incomes. Many peoples income will be impacted by AI. Hopefully the love that artists have for just the physical act of painting, finding the ' catch light' from an image, mining out the beauty and enhancing it with the craft of painting is something that will remain a treasure. Its like the synthetic diamond thing. Would you give the live of your life a synthetic diamond ring?? The problem is. . .how do you tell the difference?
Another thiught on AI. It will make Universal Basic Income a absolute necessity as so many jobs are going to evaporate. U BI will free humanity from a lot of soulless slavery shootme now jobs. This will give humans a guaranteed income to free them up and do the thing that makes them happy and joyous, like painting, sculpting what ever. This has got to be goid for sales as thebest way to become sensitive to artisticbeauty is by trying to produce it yourself !
Hey Andrew thank you for doing this interview I really got a lot out of this I have connected with Chris and he's really nice person love his work. I am just wondering if you have thought about interviewing Mark Waller, He is a true master of water painting if I have ever saw one. I hear a lot of the idea "next level " on here about painters. Well if you decide to interview Mark, I guarantee you, you will not be disappointed bare in mind I haven't asked him about this. I just think he is a modern day master.
As an artist I hear alot of people mentioning “connections with the story of your art” what if your art literally doesn’t have a story? What if you simply like to create weird surreal and creepy things because it is just what you enjoy? Not all of my pieces have this “deep meaning” and story behind them. Its very rewashed broad answer to the questions related to how to get started with selling your art. There has to be another answer lol
I really enjoyed this discussion on AI. Thank you!
I think it’s a huge subject. I think it’s a marmite subject. You love it or hate it .I personally think it can be used for great things ,but also could soon get out of control on the human input. When people on the cutting edge are frightened of where it could go . You have to be alarmed. And will it mean the end of human labour. And will probably be used in warfare. A machine has no feelings or limits if it self teaches.
I think bringing a scene of beauty to a canvas is art .And definitely for people like me who has little chance to see is a great experience and inspires emotion,and makes me want to visit.And yes the banana art is just to do with art curruption.
Ok bos... Amazing perfeck
Great podcast. Nature is a great connection to making great art.
Awesome conversation! Loved it!
whatever 4th comment 🥲
Chat GPT puts some really fast bodies of text in front of you, however, this puts you into "edit" mode, and takes the "writing" mode away from you... For me, editing is the part I dislike about the writing process, and if I did not write is to begin with? Yeah, screw that. So writing will not change for me. Using image generator is more like taking an image to start with, or finding some reference, I can take that and use it as a part of, or as a guide to make my own sketch, or to produce a painting from as a sketch. Same but totally different work flow and feel for me.
Awesome!
Yes..but very strict Law and should be certified by a body like FDA for foods
Christopher master of light and mystery
I think we have to embrace A.I it isn’t going away so might as well figure out how integrate it 🤷🏻♂️ Awesome channel man 🙏
So i guess ya didnt like it, ok