The Sacrificial Performer
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- The story of Marina Abramović's iconic Rhythm Series
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Shout out to Elaina for the idea
I think things would have gotten a LOT worse if people were able to go in one at a time and do whatever they wanted privately. I think accountability with peers was the only thing that kept her alive.
I think you're 100% right. There's some dark, sick, evil people in this world. I think she just might be one of them too.
No doubt
This is the first time I’ve heard of her and I wish I had known about her earlier! She is an absolutely amazing Artist!
I see how you can possibly say that she’s “sick” or “evil” dark yes,
but Dark does not = Evil or “Sick”
Nor the people in attendance everyone has a “ dark”, inquisitive nature and I believe she showed how it’s not as deep, hidden or uncommon as people would like to believe or the fact that everyone is capable of crossing Societal norms.
Well obviously. That isn't a profound idea.
@@luse9031 She's openly a satanist. NOT the atheist kind, the occult type who believes Satan is real. She has a lot of connections to really evil people with depopulation and eugenics beliefs. I don't know her personally but I don't think she's a good person based off who she associates with.
Rhythm 0 sounds interesting but so damn terrifying considering how far people would be willing to test something, even if it means killing/hurting someone.
Yes.
Yeah an apokalypse would be so awesome.
A Planet full of peace and not one goddamn Human left.
It just show thier true nature! It’s not just testing
@@DerPijOyou mean a few humans with no law
@@Realcordy had an bad day writing this. Misantropy is not the best answer anyway..
The inclusion of the objects are so clever. The weapons show that it's ok. It removes that barrier of taboo around them. The persons conscience, and the group around them is now the only barrier.
Everyone has a monster inside them, take away any taboo and absolute control, you would probably do some things near absolutely horrific or disgusting
All we have left is our self control, and even then, with the lenient rules, even self control may go so far
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 I don’t buy it. I think there are bad who would do bad given the chance or not. This isn’t a case of Art this is a case of insanity meeting more insanity.
Especilly that there was a gun with a bullet, there was really no question about going too far.
And oh my isn't it a thin barrier.
Mob mentality. Being in a group makes things worse than a solitary incident because people begin to feed off each others actions. She was in the most danger in front of that crowd.
She is DEFINITELY one of the most controversial artists to ever live.
Shes great
One of the Best to
only cringe Satanists enjoy such perversive "art". there is nothing insightful from her art and if you think so you're pretentious.
only cringe Satanists enjoy such perversive "art". there is nothing insightful from her art and if you think so you're pretentious.
Ummmm she’s a bad ass woman!
i genuinely wouldve just hugged her, i cant even begin to imagine how much willpower and commitment the rhythm series mustve required.
Lets be real, in 0, taking away any idea of taboo, given absolute control
You would probably find a demon in yourself too, violent, disgusting, idk, its up to the individual
Same. Can't imagine getting violent against someone you don't know for any reason. Alone or with a group of people. My father is a horribly violent man, and even if I was given the opportunity to fight him back I wouldn't take it. Don't want to fall to that level.
But hugging someone I would definitely do. I haven't hugged a person for maybe 5 months now tbh, definitely something I miss
In my opinion, she is the bravest and best performance artist. She truly have unbelievable strength when it comes to her works.
You're such a good person that you have to go out and tell people about it...... I don't believe you at all.
@@ekids.bassment why, because you personally would abuse someone?
I need a movie based on her and this performance.
Well... there's Life and Death of Marina Abramovic... its a documentary tho
Not a movie, a video game.
@@curious1053 fax
@@curious1053that'd be horrific n scary
He didnt mention that people got in front of her to stop the others from hurting her. Several men decided enough was enough and fought to end it after the gun situation. Even before that. That is why fights were breaking out. Amazing piece of art work. It should also show men how women are treated if left to the demise of men. Its terrible.
Was the whole two groups men, or were there women, too?
I don't think its a gender thing I just think its how evil some people are quite stupid and kind of missing the point of the whole thing tbh
@@jessesfilms1269 It not ONLY a gender thing but it most def IS a gender thing. Woman ( more so today than in a long time) are having a hard time with men.
Women nowadays are all
Add my insta add my insta
When they see a man do that oh it’s bad but apparently it’s fine for them ?
Both sides are just useless nowadays.
Men should be men. Women should be women. I truly believe that if you have a look at social catfish on UA-cam and see what some of these older ladies say. Thinking that they deserve a young muscled up man. While they have crows feet and hanging stomachs. Delusional. Everyone’s delusional
But then again all I have is my opinion. Even in meetings at work we’ve moved women up to see if they can handle the stress and that’s been 5 out of the 6 women have asked to go back to desk duty as they couldn’t do it. If we just accepted our positions and got on with it we’d probably do better. End of the day we’re so divided today that I am surprised we have a society
@@sheilarogge2461 Women have their own ways of causing suffering. Neither gender is innocent.
I'll never understand why everyone in Marina's life let her continue to harm herself for the sake of art. Yes her work is telling a lot and are very interesting, but we can all see this woman needed help
Yeah kinda thinking her parents may have had a reason for setting that curfew ngl
Like, you can self-harm in an interesting manner and it's still slef-harm lol
@@PM-xu2nq or if they controlled her life in other ways that may have caused her desire to self harm
@@PM-xu2nq you ever think that her parents strictness are the reason for this, because she never learnt to be reasonable for herself she was always given boundaries by her parents which prevented her from trial and error learning from mistakes.
@@jolantaanasiewicz5234 I guess that could've played into it. Could've been a lot of things though. Rarely do such severe mental health issues have a singular root cause. My point is that it's nuts people allowed her to do these things.
She also couldn’t leave her own home after 10p till she was 29 she probably wanted deatg
Wow. The end of the performance is just amazing and telling. It reminds me of a criminal who will only cry when they get caught or have to face the victim in court.
i remember reading about her when i was around 17? i was extremely fascinated by her and she made me realize how much i love performance art, no matter how much weird or deranged it gets.
i deeply respect her and her work. thanks for the video!
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I couldn't imagine being close to Marina during these projects. Just half knowing what kinds of evil humanity is capable of is enough to make me feel complete distress for her. How do you sleep comfortably at night after any of these experiments?
Mind control 🤦🏽♀️🫠
I love when art totally busts open wide the perceptions that people have of themselves by removing them from the superficial reasons they have to build those perceptions on. Pure genius.
exactly!! nobody is actually a good person, we don't do good things for good reasons, we do them because we're afraid of negative reactions or consequences. when those fears are removed and we're actually free, true human nature is shown
That's not true there are people that do good things maybe for selfish reasons thought I guess they do them because it makes them feel good people dedicate their entire lives to helping people sometimes
I wonder if things would be different if the experiment were tried today. Has our society become more inhumane? I’d hate to know the answer though. This was fascinating. Thank you.
It hasn't, it's our sin nature. Just publicly things change, behind close doors it's been the same since forever.
@@nathanhensn8717 nah. The internet has changed things. I think some are more inhumane, and some are much human.
@@whatever3145 it's changed the avenue in which we express ourselves, that fight or flight, or greed, murder, lust, and xyz is still there. Another big difference is the lack of testosterone in our generation vs previous ones. Men are somehow being chemically castrated, young men's agreeability gives the perception of peace, that however makes us weak as a society.
The majority of these peaceful movement are built on dopamine releases from empathetic highs. That's why cancel culture is a thing. If people didn't get high from trying to one up another on how great of a person they are it wouldn't exist. This gives a false perception of reality. Instead of genuine emotions, it's false piety that acts like a drug. Take away Internet, give the teenagers the same testosterone that people had in the 1980's and this perceived growth we feel we've achieved disappears almost instantly.
I’d say it’s become more humane for humans are the only creatures on the earth that know cruelty and evil. Animals kill for survival, but we kill and torture for pleasure
@@nathanhensn8717 I feel that while individually people are more or less the same, there has been horrible people in the past and there is horrible people now, BUT I think todays group mentality has changed so that if this experiment would be conducted now it would have escalated way faster to horrible things.. "I was just part of the group I am not to blame" I think younger generations have never experienced collective punishment so even the ones who are not participating in horrible things would not intervene, and the bystander effect seems way more common now + probably people would just film it so they can post it to what ever social media they can.
Can’t think of his name but there was an Icelandic artist who put on a performance where he told the audience to kill him and when nobody did he gashed open his own wrists in an attempted to commit suicide. I believe he also lit all his other art on fire during the performance.
If anyone finds the name to this guy, please update me/us :)
...are you possibly talking about the piece "kill me before I kill myself" by Frost?
i think more people also are more willing to do it a women, because many men hate women and or see them as objects
@@andemand5172 his name is Dum Fuk
Yikes
It breaks my heart that that many random strangers would be willing to do and did do such harmful acts of violation upon her body. That's a very sad, disappointing revelation about the human species, and scary as hell. I really admire this lady for her tremendous amount of self-discipline. She also has more bravery than any man I can think of.
Very important part of context what nobody mentoined is performance like this attracted these type of people. I wouldn't draw conclusions from such a small sample of people.
im someone who thinks about pain and death a LOT... im terrified of it, which makes marinas artwork all the more braver. its something i wish i could do if i had the guts
You should do a story about Conway the Machine the rapper who was shot in the head and survived to become a legendary underground artist. His album GDMM goes into some crazy details about his trauma but there hasn't been a solid UA-cam video explaining his story. I would be interested to see what you would do with a video on him as you deal with musicians, trauma, and dark stories well. And I think his overall message is actually very powerful and universal and would be a great thing to expose to your audience.
Love Conway's music, haven't thought about making a video about him but I might look into it if I get time
griselda is nuts. also don’t forget to mention how the dude raps completely normally while having half of his face paralyzed
@@toolie3671 You could hear the lisp more before but you can hear him getting more used to it over the years. Now I can only tell cus I know, and its just part of his style. It also adds a layer of intimidation cus you know he's real af.
@@nathanjudy7705 nah now that i’m thinking abt it this factual but it’s still pretty hard to tell to the avg listener
@@toolie3671 its because he incorporates the slur into his style the perseverance is really beautiful. He was good live.
I would go up to her and whisper, “I admire your work, you’re so brave to be doing this, I couldn’t ever imagine letting my body be an object.” And hug her.
There was a similar social experiment done by two artists, I can’t remember the name of it, but two girls went out onto town for the night, one of them wearing a reflective mask hiding her face, the other recording, and both of them promising to not say anything.
Unfortunately, mob mentality caused them to harass her- pushing her, tripping her, spilling drinks on her, yelling at her and questioning if she was a girl, and more.
It ended when she got shoved to the ground and got hurt
Her Rhythm 2 performance is what getting prescribed max doses on day 1 is like. You go dumb and numb and for a few people it's heaven, for others it's hell
I only learned about Marina a few weeks ago when Serbia's Eurovision entry by Konstrakta referenced Marina's Art Must Be Beautiful... in her performance and song lyrics. Most of Europe seemed to Get It because it took fifth place. Learning now that Art Must Be Beautiful... was just a mild taste of what Marina did is a lot. Thank you for the video!
A true artist, the world is fortunate to witness her talent.
Wow, I absolutely love your channel and I hope you do more pieces like this, about performance art. Great content, keep making videos man.
Thanks a million!
Same. Except not only the performance art for me. Just found it & subbed, of course!
I wonder, if choosing to stay around to protect her would be ruining the art, or would become part of it?
It sounds like that did happen, so no need to wonder. It started a big fight when that guy put a gun in her hand
Would become part of it because it also shows that humans have a tendency to protect
You would be doing the right thing, and btw would become part of the art.
The audience participation was very much a part of the art. Everything the audience did was part of it.
they were definitely a part of it. they can do anything right?
Love that you covered this talented artist. I think Marina's work is amazing.
The world stops when he uploads. Welcome back Legend 💪
I had no idea taking drugs could be performance art
*_sniffs crack in front of audience_*
A song was made based on her love story and damn it's good. Her and her husband walked across the Wall of China and if they got to each other and didn't feel the love they once had anymore they would let go and I believe they did. So beautiful
They met again for a few minutes later on in life. She had this one piece where an audience member could sit across from her at a table and they'd just stare at each other for 5 minutes (I think) and then it would be time for the next person. Her ex had shown up and participated. There's a video of it happening and she teared up
glad to see u back!!! no offense haven’t been watching ur content but i love crazy artists like this pls do more
Damn this lady is metal as hell, brutalist as hell, and I number one person I think of when I think of performance art. Performance art is such a niche and and unique kind of expression redefines what we consider art to be. What an experience.
Shes crazy, i respect her art and her as an artist because she showed the good and bad of humanity, and especially when given absolute control or no control at all but lets be real, shes fucking crazy
No one that mentally there would do any of this
Dumb wht folks
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 "art is meant to comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable" , my friend. all famous artists had a few screws loose, without that, art and creativity can never flourish
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 She grew up abused and not shown affection, so she learnt to express it through her art and detached herself from reality.
She is definitely one of the artist that ever lived
Imagine being that closed off to concepts of anything other than "ugg ugg marvel universe ugg ugg".
@@prawngravy18 marvel what now? ;)
Finally got in quick enough to thank you for your work. I've really appreciated it over the past few years. I wound up with a damn autoimmune disorder (RA) in 2019 and don't get around like I used to (I'm only 42 ffs), and work like yours means a lot. It honestly helps get me through the rougher days. If you ever wonder if you're helping someone with these vids, well, you're helping me at least.
it helps me too
Thank you so much Tyler, I’m really sorry to hear about that but I’m glad you find enjoyment from stuff like this, I feel very proud to be a small part of that
@@Yummicookie1979 Word. It sounds like we're in the same grim boat. Perhaps that's part of why we gravitate to some of this stuff. Hold on, and be strong. I'll try to do the same
This is truly fascinating stuff very professionally explained like always cheers 🍻 It would be a honour to meet this lady such guts and interesting ideas
Really loving these deep dives into disturbing art pieces Deburke! Would really like this to become a new series of yours!
Have a look into some of the following:
- Performance Art
- Extreme Performance Art
- Body Art
- Shock Art
- Transgressive Art
- Endurance Art
There are SO many pieces you could talk about!
Thanks for the recommendations! Yeah I’ve been really interested in the performance side of things recently, still gonna cover musicians as well but I’ll probably do some art throughout the year as well
@@deburke321 In this case, is it even performance art at that point? is it just insanity? Or just a a messed up social experiment in the guise of “performance art”?
That was chilling to watch. I often feel a desire to express but it’s very trapped and I’ll probably never be able to explore it but looking at these artists push boundaries of thought… I don’t know how to describe it, I’m horrified and a bit envious
Thank you so much for making this. I love your video on Tehching Hsieh too. I hope you’ll do one on Chris Burden or Vito Acconci soon!
I have always found this piece to be not only terrifying, but very moving.
Edit: Rhythm 0 specifically.
I genuinely would've hugged her and tried to fix her ripped clothes. People are so sick.
@@someperson4819 shut up
@@someperson4819 yes, she expected it to happen. Doesn’t mean she wanted it to, and they’re still sick.
Trust me' She's sicker. I'm surprised no one knows about the leaked Emails between her and the Clintons and the Podesta brothers, and her connections with p*******e circles in Washington.
@@someperson4819 nice. Victim blaming. People like you are why the world is fucked up.
Marina was a the most satanic "artist" there has been. You should google some of other work..
Thanks for the upload!
Where you been?!? This is the first video I’ve been notified of in a LONG time!! Can’t wait to watch 💕
Edit: Wow. No idea how I have never learned of this. So interesting!!
Great video man. So telling about the impulses within all of us.
I've heard about this before and wow it's crazy every time I hear it
Thanks for creating this, I found it to be very interesting.
I wonder how a piece like this would go this year. But also, if it were in public streets in different cities, large & small. New York City, Houston TX, Frewsburg NY, Chicago, Aiken SC,.. With the same items. Seeing how people in completely different environments would interact.
I knew about this piece. The conclusion is perfect peer pressure is the only thing keeping the animals in
Only watched one video an I can already see this is an amazing channel.
Brilliant content love your videos ❤
I understand rhythms 10, 0 and partially 5 and 2, but whats the point of rhytm 4? I tried looking up what was it supposed to mean but couldnt find anything, its like she just wanted an excuse to pass out
I guess
It was made as a response to Rhythm 5, as in Rhythm 5, she lost consciousness due to a lack of oxygen. By making Rhythm 4, she aimed to explore the unconscious state without interruption from the audience, which is also what happened in Rhythm 5.
I hope that helped clear things up!
I don’t remember subscribing to you but this video looks very intriguing
Words can not describe my love for this woman and the art that she gave us, sometimes I even have an issue with calling it "art" she gave us raw fucking humanity enclosed in whatever spaces she chooses, either her own or that of the rest of us. Even when she describes her pieces her voice is monotone and without emotion, that is how much she wants you to feel what YOU feel, she does not want to be an influence on your imagination just your psyche..... She is the LITERAL embodiment of ART.
thank you for focusing on the whole rhythm series and not just 0, literally everything that she did is shattering. The man who drank her blood did so at the request of his girlfriend, this always haunts me.
Dummy
I love your videos so much
Thank you
Thank you for sharing
In school we touched up on her only on surface level so im glad I found this video. It convinced me to look into her more
My lecturer mentioned a piece to the class that was so perverted and unethical, he didn’t want to explain what it was. It took the class about 5 minutes to convince him to tell us what it was. It’s called ‘Blind Date’ by John Duncan and it’s far worse than the piece in this video.
So that guy recorded audio of him fucking a dead body until he came, then got a vasectomy? Huh, still not as shocking to the viewer as A Serbian Film. There's a part where they deliver a baby then rape it. So there's definitely much more depraved "performances" out there.
just looked it up and I wish I didn't
I just looked that up...wtf? That's...troubling.
I don’t see anything? Just a picture of a woman nude
I don’t see anything when I look it up
nvr heard of this b4. thnx for sharing
I love your videos keep doing your thing
"void" chaser for sure....she wanted to cross over somewhere....I know some of you understand me.
Her description of how she felt before doing that knife thing was pretty telling. She wasnt scared, she was fuckin jacked. Possibly the first time in her life she felt truly alive
Weird how she’s all tense during the burning star thing, eyes wide open then passed out
Almost like she’s possessed
The gun wasnt the end of it. They carried her around like a dummy then put her on a table. When somebody was going to SA her, it was only THEN stopped.
Like many people, rythm 0 was my introduction to Marina's work. We talked briefly about her in art School but even them deemed her "too much", saying this basicly was "taking it toi far"...
I couldn't desagree more and have loved her work ever since.
What this ‘performance’ in part showed is that worst thing you can do when people bully you is to ignore it.
“ART”? Some people would call it a BDSM Fetish…🤦♂️
I was always afraid of death...Now I'm just terrified and afraid of Rhythm 0.
I love this channel.
I love her sm
Girl is trying to commit suicide without even committing suicide
It would be interesting to know how a crowd would've handled that in the 1750's compared to the 1860's, the 1930's, obviously the 70's, and today. And maybe how different cultures would behave....
marina abramovic is master in this field
Art Can be subjective and controversial or thought provoking
Or grotesque
I have never heard of marina till now and she seems to be unique
I love your pfp! I miss Pitter Patter Pop
The Artist Is Present is just beautiful.
Great video, keep it up
Great video surprised you don’t have more subs
Thank you for sharing this. What an incredibly strong woman. I can’t Imagine what she went through.
honestly speaking she chose to put herself through it, she knew what crazy people were capable of and couldve stopped at any time
Do what you want, as long as youre not hurting anyone or yourself.
Wow this is disheartening and scary! I'm over here thinking I'd wanna share some of the food with her, then these folks are trying to hurt her? Wouldn't even cross my mind to do 😥 tbh it sounded to me like she had a desire to die during a performance piece. She kept setting herself up for it but someone kept intervening. I'm wondering how she stayed so stoic during rhythm 0... Perhaps she took the schizophrenia medication beforehand? Stunning that she didn't react to the abuse.. kinda reminds me of the 2008 movie Martyrs but real life
Fascinating story, thanks for sharing this
I bet this time she was sober to remember it
You say "Wouldn't even cross my mind to do" but I highly doubt that, and even if that is true that you would "only wanna share some of the food with her" I don't think you would know unless you participated, because it gets very tempting to do/try things you wouldn't even think about doing normally when you know for a fact there is 0 consequences.
@@imaybedead6096 yeah, theres inherent evil in all of us, take away any taboo, all you have left is self control
Who knows the person who originally commented may have used one of the tools in the same scenario, maybe i wouldve, maybe i wouldve used my fists, maybe i wouldve coware in a corner, 0 really is just about how truly evil humanity can be given a lack of taboo
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 I don't know if I would describe it exactly like that but yeah I agree, and that's why I highly doubt someone would do nothing or only give her food, unless you are predetermined to do nothing or fear being seen as a terrible person.
I myself don't think I would go as far as to hurt her since I wouldn't gain anything from it but if I did, it would probably also only be to the extent of using my fists, however I do know I would want to do sexual things to her but considering there's other people participating it would probably only go as far as kissing.
But honestly though who really knows at the end of the day, maybe I would also be too scared to do anything but I feel like it would wear off after seeing other people do stuff to her, all I can say for certain though is that it's getting quite morbid to think about and you'll never really know for sure unless you are given the opportunity.
Good comment Yarrow, 👍 Nor would I have wanted to hurt her and I too would probably gone for giving her food but that wouldn't have factored much as the art she was wanting to expose, which was the darkest nature within the soul of humans who have had social responsibility and restrictions removed, in order for them to 'Do As Thou Wilt' to quote Alistair Crowley. ..
She was exceptionally brave and was literally prepared to die for her art. That takes real guts.
She is actually from a chernogorian/montenegrin family that settled in Serbia from Crna Gora / Montenegro old capital Cetinje. But yes she was born in Belgrade / Serbia.
Imagine being a 20-30 something y/o man AFTER that.... whether you were an ally to her or foe.... that's gonna go with you everywhere. The men that "hurt" her I guarantee walked away from that either trying to be better men or helplessly live on suffering... Either is just as satisfying tbh.
She sure is creative.. But a deeply fkn disturbed woman.
imagine in bed
my kind of a womqn
@@lucassaueressig1411 To each their own i guess
Not as disturbed as the other people who participated in that
@@dilbophagginz Its all very disturbing
She is a witch. She talks about Spirit Cooking and is extremely into Magik. If you know, then you know.
I do not necessarily believe that Rhythm 0 shows how bad humans are. There is also a performative aspect from the audience. They want to witness a great art piece, and for the art to become great the audience/participants need to push some boundaries. I would say that this is an environment that encurages this behavior.
"I do stupid pointless stuff and call it art"
People forget she was friends with the Podesta brothers and the whole Pedesta email scandal.
Marina Abramović was their close friend.
I remember first hearing of her in my New Performance class in college.
aye bruh i think we went through the same rabbit hole…
i watched your insanity artist video and discovered marina abramovic after that, i even watched her 2012 documentary
and here we are now…
She would dominate no limit hold’em. WoW ! I could imagine most of the peoples lives were forever changed.
Oh yes it is excellent
This was a wild one. Her emotions afterwards I’d never seen before
Great video
Oh so this is where they got the idea from in House. Fascinating
Yes! Interesting content to get my little mind away from that bloody defamation case that's taken over everything. Cheers Deburke.
Before watching the video: This artist is a wacko
After hearing about Rhythm 0: Nope, it’s people who have not concept of the consequences that are out of their minds.
amazing video
This isn't art. These are rituals.
@@loneandaloof don't be ignorant
@@loneandaloof You're calling rituals performance art.
@@loneandaloof This isn't art you weirdo.
She did a lot for serbs. She proved if you get permision to do bad stuff, you will do it. Something to think about regarding balkan wars
Im sure she does things for fun on her spare time but......she pretty much dedicated her whole life to being an artist.....I wish I was as strong as she is
damn. well done. im going to reference this.
Wow. Just wow.
"Art"
her works were talked about in my contemporary arts class and rhythm 0 was really memorable for me because it shows that we humans will do heinous things if we were given a chance and without the consequences.
And I thought I was beyond being shocked...
Thank-you for this amazing content
Glad you enjoy it!
These are all brutal, would make based movie.