The Documentary That Was Banned Worldwide (Titicut Follies)
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The Documentary That Was Banned Worldwide (Titicut Follies) In 1964, one of the most controversial documentaries of all time was created, it was ultimately banned for over 2 decades because of its controversial nature.
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Music by Myuu and Kevin MacLeod
You forgot to mention that when Jim was being shaved they intentionally cut his face with a razor quite badly. It is excruciating to watch. That guard is pure evil
I wondered why he looked like he was bleeding, and why he was covering his face. Can you imagine being marched out to be shaved by another human with the constant fear that they will intentionally cut you with a razor? Jfc
This is why I'm a misanthrope. Human beings are just, well, evil. There's no other word for it. For the 15% of people who are sadistic and cruel to helpless beings, human or otherwise, 99% of the remaining population is completely apathetic towards it.
Whoa…
Humans can be so cruel to each other
Sick
And folks wonder why I am blown away when they say things like, “I trust the government” or “they wouldn’t intentionally poison us” or “they care about the citizens”.
Yes, you only have to look at recent events like covid. Just wow
Government is enemy #1 they are like parasites..living off of US. They keep us controlled because they need us..we don't need them. When we all wake up & realize that..them we will be truly free. Until then. We work our life away to make them rich and us stay poor
Same with big business of course.
This is what I remember. My biological mother was institutionalized between 1977-1983 more on than off. My adoptive mom, her sister, would take me to visit her when I was 4-5 years old until I went to my adoptive dad and told him the stuff I was seeing. That stopped really fast. But what I remember was horrifying. She had ECT many times. We would visit her after a session and my biological mom wouldn't recognize me and it was just messed up.
If you don't mind me asking could you tell me what ECT is please. If it is too painful too talk about then just ignore my question and accept my apologies for the intrusion.
@@bryannicholls200I'm not the op but it's electric convulsive therepy. The electrocute you into a seizure, which is supposed to calm your demeanor overall. It's still sometimes used today for drug resistant depression but sedatives are used and the patient consents. Back in the day there were no sedatives and no consent
Do you mean that they stopped the visits after you confided in them, or that the abuse stopped at that time?
I'm so sorry you went through that and my heart aches for your mom💔
Those facilities did more harm than good - if they did any good at all!!!
@@shanelandis7193 Thank you for explaining this to me i appreciate it. To the OP once again i apologise for my question and if it brought up any uncomfortable memories from your past.
I’m so sorry that you experienced such traumatic events as a child. Your aunt probably thought she was doing a good thing by letting you see your real mom. I’m glad your uncle stopped the visits. Back then, hospitals were ignorant and abusive, kind of like today. These places still run the same way. I hope you have made some peace with the trauma and can have happiness in your life. Thank you for sharing, I know that’s hard to do with something so personal. ❤
At around 10:25 the man arguing with the doctor sounds more competent than the doctor. Of course you can't diagnose a person from just a few sentences but it's still disappointing that nobody really listens to him.
Was that that generations version of covaids? Where folks were forced according to medical “professionals”. Things that make u go hmmmm
Totally
People shouldn’t be diagnosing other people at all IMO. Let alone with a sentence
Vladimir actually got out 8 years later, got a job at a supermarket, and died a few years later.
Wiseman actually invited him to come and meet him and see the film, and according to him, he actually liked it and they had some positive interactions with each other.
You HAVE to give Deburke321 A LOT of credit! He doesn't upload frequently, but when he does, the content is in a class of its own!
Thank you!!
Agreed. Wish he'd upload more, but I'm sure these 20+ minute documentaries take time.
Dat boy Deburke been wit da bidnezz!
Agreed, DB, thx for exposing this one.
Hes great, I wish he got more subscribers and views. Definitely one of the best creators.
As horrendous as this hospital was, the smoking was normal back then. Believe it or not, you could freely smoke inside hospitals. Doctors, nurses, patients. There were even ashtrays on the hallways. It sounds weird now, but back then no one thought anything of it.
Airplanes too
@@poindextertunespretty much anywhere. Clothing stores, restaurants, even high schools had smoking areas for students
My teachers used to smoke in class too 🤷
There were some magazines and medical journals that actually said smoking was good you, both in mind and body. They encouraged it heavily, "You're not a real man unless you smoke Marlboro. And if you REALLY cared about your fellow man, you'll blow that smoke into every baby's face you see, to help them grow into strong, resilient individuals."
I remember my doctor blowing her cigarette ash from her prescription pad before writing out my asthma medication, that's was mid 70's.
My great uncle went to one of these types of places, to Eloise Asylum in Detroit. It had its own zip code when it first opened and it had everything from a butcher shop to it’s own black smithing shop. He went for a “ mental break “ but he got out about a year later. There were also places in our country called ( poor houses ) and my grandmother was terrified of going to one. She talked about them a lot in her life and people were treated horribly in these places, it’s a part of our history that has been covered up and forgotten about. My great grandmother also had tuberculosis and my grandmother and her family hid her in an attic room so they could care for her until her death because they were carted off to these asylums when they found out you had TB to die. They were hell holes where a lot of people were experimented on. The medical community did some evil things to people, the lobotomy was absolutely evil and was done regularly in these asylums. Btw just subscribed.
Eloise named after a postmasters daughter
Started out glorious.
Rockefeller has a lot to answer, for crimes against humanity.
@@andrewyoung2796 Actually, it started out as a poorhouse & a farm 2 miles from the city limits and in very poor condition. It operated from 1839 to early 1982 (!!!) only eventually developing into an asylum, sanatorium and hospital. In 1832 it was called the Wayne County Poorhouse; it was in very poor condition when it was purchased 2 years later in 1834 as part of a 280 acres land sale, which included the poorhouse & the black horse inn, which was a pit stop between Detroit and Chicago. By 1872 it was still called 'the Wayne County Alms House'; by 1886 it was just 'the Wayne County House', and the name 'Eloise' doesn't really appear until the early 1900's: by 1913 there were three divisions with that namesake - The Eloise Hospital (the Mental Hospital), the Eloise Infirmary (the Poorhouse) and the Eloise Sanatorium (the T.B. Hospital) , collectively all just refferred to as 'the Eloise'. It isn't easy to find information, to be fair, but for only a small period of time did it ever hold any hope whatsoever - what you describe as "started out glorious" is certainly not how it actually began, and even if you refer only to the 1913 era, "glorious" still wouldn't be a description anybody would use by todays standards. Even back then I believe it was largely an illusion for the public, as conditions inside have always been brutal. During the time around the turn of the century when it was becoming largely self sufficient, with a working farm, its own police and fire departments, a railroad and trolley system, a bakery, amusement hall, laundry facility, post office and a power plant (this is the period of time I believe you refer to when you say it "started out glorious"...) even then many patients (inmates) refused to go to what they called "the wilderness", And the staff were exploiting the poor inmates since day one, I'm afraid, housing themselves in the old black horse tavern & housing patients/inmates in metal A-frames! Glorious indeed...
I bet you a pound to a penny that this inhuman bullshit is still happening today guaranteed. Damn good show my man,keep up the good work & stay blessed from all in the UK.
How? Where? We don’t even have this crappy level of care…..NOW. We have no institutions…..they are now JAILS that do all this…..
wrking in the profesion,what I saw and know personally, u would have night terrors.Its sad how some of r society treats fellow human beings.
@@6Haunted-DaysThis "Bridgewater Institution for The Criminally Insane" is ABSOLUTELY still open.
It happens to this day in mental institutions in African countries. I am from Mauritius and things worse than what is shown in the documentary happens there. NURSES (not guards) regularly beat patients there and once a young woman patient was raped by the staff. Sometimes people are chained. The worse is that this place I am talking about is not an institution for prisoners and the criminally insane, but a normal hospital for people who have nothing to do with the law or convictions. Next to it they have a division for the criminally insane and no one knows what goes on there.
dam riht it is
This movie was shown to us in nursing school in our Psychology class. I hatted it then and still do. The staff was so cruel to the patients. I could never get this movie out of my head.
I Remember visiting an Uncle In The Hospital. Back then it was called "Manic Depression" (Bi-Polar) And it was just cold and really eerie in there. It scared me so much, I may have been maybe 8 or 9. He then was stuck in a Unit until his death. He was that drugged up there was NO way he could be released and live a normal life, he lived there for decades until He passed not so long ago. Little did I know when I went to visit him that I would end up at the same hospital 9 years later. ThankFully alot changed since the 80's when I was put in there in the 90's. I also have Bi-Polar and yes I do still have to be admitted occasionally but I get to leave. I have another Uncle and Aunt plus 3 cousin's who also have Bi-Polar. I remember visiting him after my diagnosis and he was stunned that I was out and about. He still thought if you have Bi-Polar your locked away for life. My Aunt was forced to have Electric Shock Therapy many times. NO it did not help her. 🤘🏽🖤
It's a travesty that electroshock therapy (among other things) has such a history of misuse that led to the popular misconceptions about it, because it does work in certain cases - not all, but some, and these things should never be used without patient consent except in legitimate emergencies.
I also have mental disorders, and as many problems as there are in society today, I'm grateful that people like us are treated much better by both the medical profession and wider society than we were just a few decades ago.
Anyway, sorry to hear about your uncle, but I'm glad to hear you've had a better time of things. Just going off your comment, you seem pretty stable. Take care.
My aunt had electroshock therapy also but in the state mental hospital in Vermont called Waterbury. She actually was helped by it. My ex was in Bridgewater in MA when it was also used as a jail for the mentally ill, temporary or otherwise. It was in the 80's. He didn't say much about it but I'm sure it was no picnic. There's also a mental hospital still operating today in Brattleboro Vermont called The Retreat that has horror stories attached to its history, but today it's more of a dual diagnosis treatment hospital for addicts with mental illnesses
yes, it is still used occasionally, the only difference is someone can't be compelled to have it. They must voluntarily have it. Here, it is indicated for major depressive disorder symptoms only E.g. the depression is so bad that the person won't get out of bed or even eat. Many people report it works. A psychiatrist told me it basically does the same thing Sertraline does but much faster (how much truth is in that I don't know). One adverse effect from it though is memory loss but if your only memories are going to be laying in bed and not eating one may rationalize it is worth the memory loss@@WK-47
Powerful stuff. One of the most disturbing individuals in that film was the main superintendent. He looked manic. Closely followed by the smoking doctor. The blinking gives it away. Those poor souls.
You must mean Dr. Praetorius who was from the Carpathian mountains in eastern Romania. He knew a lot about psychiatry, and he gave several lectures when I attended University of Massachusetts, Chan Medical School in Worcester. Fortunately, several of us ended up having lunch with him; he was a psychiatric genius, but had TOO MANY patients. He didn't promote lobotomies or excessive neuroleptics. I know nothing about the 'Superintendent' as well as the American psychiatrist. They appeared to be malignant, narcissistic maniacs! I retired from psychiatry 5 years ago.
Reinhold Von Treffencaunbowz, MBBS, MD, PhD
This was absolutely shocking and sick. Reminds me when I was 13 (I was abused by teachers, it left a mark, I was a little anti authority for good reason) this psychiatrist that I call Hannibal lector threw me in a loonie bin and told me if I don’t behave I’ll stay, he has full control of me. I’m a paranoid schizophrenic(yea he could diagnose schizophrenia at the ripe age of 13), nobody would believe me, only he could sign me out the hospital. That’s almost verbatim of what he told me, and mind you I was 13…. I’m almost 40 and I am terrified of doctors ever since.
dude its absolutely sick how people will treat someone if they have a physical or mental disability, acting as if people with disabilities ARENT people?? they are born with these disorders they cant do anything to change that like really what is wrong with you?
@@RizzyDaGoat
No you dont get it.
They ARE THE MENTAL ONES!!!
Sorry to hear you were treated like that and suffered all that abuse..... I hope you on some peace in your life now xxx
Yeh you can diagnose schizophrenia at 13.
The Dr , I suspect abused his position and training , with you .
From your description of him , he had narcassistic & sadistic tendency's , and should not have been allowed to practice .
Much like you , I do not like some Drs , who drop their facades and show their true selves - these ones , get push back and one is inviting legal action .
Allopathic medicine , for myself , isn't the greatest thing out , so I've learned about Naturopathy and Iridology , along with Homeopathy and the like , and use these practices in preference to Allopathic Remedy's where possible . Holistic medicine , which covers the practices named , work well, as do the newer Flower Essences . I've not had side effects from any of them , ND have surprised medical doctors several times , by adjusting certain numbers down , which they expected to keep going up .
I Trust your health , improves more than it is at present , and you are able to figure out the right way for you to fix it - "ask , and you will receive" .
Clearly the sickest ppl in this hospital are the staff 😒
Digging the pronunciation of film as "fillim."
Top tier material yet again 👍😃👍
FillEm' is my fav!
What’s up with that!?
@@HockeyBros100irish pronunciation of film
@@benrogers5058
Ty!!
@@benrogers5058I didn’t know he was Irish , cool
Thank you for covering this documentary. I worked for the Massachusetts Department of Correction and my supervisor wanted us (the research staff) to watch the documentary. Bridgewater State Hospital continues to have civil rights issues and still needs urgent reform. I'm glad to see a great synopsis of this documentary and I appreciate Fred Wiseman for recording this for prosperity.
*posterity
So heartbreaking that they were pretty much being punished for something that's beyond their control. At the same time, the state would never shell out the funds to put them in a country club. Terrible situation all around. I pray things have improved 🙏
You serious!?! Soooo being treated as a basic human with dignity…..giving them clean rooms and food and all That….in YOUR dubiously educated opinion….is somehow claiming is like a country club? Wtf. That’s a disgusting way too at it. They didn’t WANT or ASK for that level of care and you DAMN WELL KNOW IT. Unbelievable BS. 🙄🤡🚌
Well the state shut these facilities down
Their on the streets. They shut them ALL down!!
Things are worse lmao
They're.
If something is banned it means there’s someone with power that doesn’t want whatever information is on there getting out. If something’s banned (information, anyway) then there’s more reason to go out and find it.
I used to work in one of these kind of institutions (or what to call them?) 40 yrs ago in Finland. What went on, up this modern era (beginning of the 80's ) inside those walls was disturbing to a point sometimes where it was truly difficult to separate sometimes (a lot of the time) who the sane were from the insane. The head Psychiatrist turned up maybe once a month for a day or two, and she was like directly out of some movie like The hunger games. ( Could have been easily written in to that script as Snow's wife or something) It was SUCH bizarre place to work, and it was my first real job, starting at 18 yrs old.
The experience of that place has left its mark on me for life.
I saw this movie in 1969 when I was in graduate school for social work and serving a 9 month internship at a very large ,very old state hospital. We students and staff were all shocked at what we saw. Our institution had modern therapy techniques and a history of changing and improving over time. Patients are usually treated with respect and listened to. Improvement had Patients released to the community. As students, the film seemed to represent how mental health institutions functioned in the past, decades ago. And to show us how the system could be abused and how mental health was scary to the public, so enough money was rarely provided for the life style and treatment that ill people needed.
@blu4085 Oh interesting, as a Finn who works in the field today I would like to know more if you tell what you saw 40 years ago?
I can relate
I was put in Hyvinkää psych ward 4 years ago with completely restricted from outer world. Couldnt even go out for a cigarette. Just a ventilated box. I didnt experience physical violence, but the nurses were horrible. They didnt take anything i told serious and had a funny look when i spoke. Once i slept through food time and they gave me nothing because "my fault". Also i asked if my dad could bring me vitamines, smokes, candy etc and i got laughed at. I dont wish that to anybody
@@koukutus3272 Baphomet is no good man, no wonder demons are torturing you
You know who always seemed to make sense to me? My partner for over 11 years.
Sadly, someone who is legitimately mentally unwell can sound and appear very sane a lot of the time. Something like schizophrenia can be hard to pick up when someone is lucid. Mental hospital abuse is disgusting, and shouldn't happen. Some people need to be housed in them for their safety and others unfortunately. Its sad that people who actually need help find it hard to get because so many psychiatric hospitals have been shut down over the years because of abuse and misuse of funds.
i hope one day instead of saying someone is "crazy" we can recognise that there is far more to the world then meets the eye,
some people just have a lot more to deal with and the view of what is real and what is not has rotten our society more then almost any other factor.
i shudder to think how many people could have had a decent life if the way we treated these sorts of things dint break so many people
did you know schizophrenia in india is almost always heard as kind helpful voices? i would think there is a reason for the difference
@higamerXD conversely, we HAVE to have an agreed upon view of reality, or everything becomes subjective. Just because someone sees and believes something doesn't make it true. If 9 million people see something and believe it, chances are far better that it's true. Concensus is the only way a society can function properly.
the whole UFO phenomena has shown us how much damage that can do to people who see things just a bit too early, will we ever know how many people died or where judged for a view of reality that one day will be seen as the consensus? while you are right i shudder to think how many have already lived a life of pain from viewing things in a way that in those day's was seen as not real, even tho now we know already just how much more there is to the world.
in my opinion, while you are right this is not a way of functioning compatible with a good and kind world, i hope we one day can move away from this way of creating what is true and not
@@theSemiChrist
@@theSemiChrist yes, it could be argued that societies can only be formed in the first place if there's a consensus view on reality. Perhaps that's one of the reasons Western society today is so divided, because there's a real lack of such consensus. It'll get worse before it gets better, but it will get better.
@@Steve_Sharpe i very much agree with you i will say, but on the other hand medicating the "unreal" out of people is in itself also doing harm. while you may not believe in spirits that does not mean they care about that.
i really really shudder to think what the implications are if the UAP disclosure program is successful.
who is to say what is real or not? why do we people feel we know all about that? i agree that we know much and do many thing right when it comes to mental heath but the harm that comes from thinking certain things are not real when they are as tangible as you and me has no positive effects.
what will it mean for people if it turns out one *can* hear voices from things non corporeal? i agree that there are people with problems but a lot of influences are not caused by the things we think of. even if we have *solutions* for these problems in a lot of cases the long term effects are still poorly studied. i agree a lot of meds are good but a lot of people could have an even better life with a significantly different interpretation and relation around that which one cant touch
Very timely post- I've been considering the beyond urgent need for mental hospitals at this point in history. However- places like this are the exact reason that asylums have fell into disfavor.
Thanks for sharing!
Care homes and psychiatric facilities are well worth it as long as they're properly funded, the stays are fairly short term and the care is of a very high standard. They should be conducted with frequent and heavy oversight. I've been to a good one before for a short period of time and it saved my life. I've also been to a bad one, albeit nowhere near as bad as this. They're almost two completely institutions
ive been to Broughton state hospital i saw a list of things used to be imprisened
anyhow self abuse,Onanism could damn sure land you there,
Yes, after learning big pharma was the main proponent in shutting these down it makes me highly suspicious of their true motives.
I agree, the world needs mental illness hospitals and asylums more than ever before in history, with so much mentall illness all around us and movies and news and schools pushing it on us and our children, the world is one big asylum it seems.
A lot of abuses happened in mental hospitals and I was a witnesses. They ruined my ex girlfriend.
I’ve seen stuff like this too
Is she getting better? I've been to a mental hospital for s$icide attempt. I had nightmares for a year after that.
She’s a skitzo she was prob there for a good reason
@@pofunowtf?
Lol no disrespect are you sure it wasn't you that out her in there lol
My heart goes out to these patients. Mental health is so important, especially in this crazy, messed up world. Almost everyone today has some form of mental illness. Getting the help is still a challenge!
No they do not. Less than 1% of the population has schizophrenia. If you are referring to the 'worried well' there is a big difference between someone with schizophrenia and someone who is 'burning out' at their job OR someone who isn't coping because they do not have any friends online.
@cameraop8210 he said some form of mental illness not schizophrenia. Read to understand, not to argue for the sake of arguing.
the worried well are not mentally ill, its a normal response to circumstances. What an alarmist and incorrect stat to propagate. @@thepunisher3640
This video essay is as fascinating as the Documental itself 👏 it's always heartbreaking hearing about so called "Mental Care Facilities" when the people it used to "treat" are probably now homeless and addicted to substances on the many streets of the Country, still forgotten by society and with no hope of receiving help, or a chance of a better and dignified life 😢
Great content sir, you’re giving light to the people that didn’t got it on time and the person that worked so hard yet was denied by their own government.
I can't believe you just called his material... 'content' .... right to his face too! I told him you didn't mean it.
It feels like I'm watching footage from a prisoner of war camp rather than a hospital. I hope Hell is a real place just so the sick f*cks that ran that place can burn for eternity, and it still wouldn't be as bad as the torture those patients went through.
Great video, much needed!
Psych wards still are horrible places without any regard to how the inmates feel or what they need, I have seen this with my own eyes, and in some capacity experienced it too.
Especially the cutting off patients, not listening or even caring about people who are clearly in need of urgent help.
(I was admitted because of Delirium from alcoholism and got out within a week, but it felt like "One Flew Over The Cuccoos Nest" for most of that time, I almost thought that I still had hallucinations, because of some things I witnessed and experienced.)
Shame.
Great video! I've been in psych wards on multiple occasions as a teen and an adult and one thing that never seemed to change is that almost none of the staff will actually listen to you so seeing that moment caught on camera was pretty crazy.
As have i, and it DOES suck. On the OTHER hand, at least in the 90s they'd ATTEMPT to treat you for a couple weeks (without an icepick), but they cut funding so much in Texas that you've pretty well got to BEG to stay longer than overnight, and even then, you're out of there within 72 hours. You'll finally get treated in JAIL, when you DO something crazy. They refuse to treat us, and then warehouse us.
Yeah, there's a well-documented bias in these settings that leads to even mentally healthy people who seem sound of mind being labelled as lying or delusional, because the staff assume there must be something wrong with them.
I can't remember the name, but an American psychologist ran an experiment in which he sent test subjects to a mental hospital to fake illness and then tell the staff they felt better. He didn't tell the hospital he'd done this, and the majority of subjects were institutionalized and kept that way even after reporting feeling better.
When he later told the hospital about it and that he was going to send more fakers, but actually didn't, they still institutionalized the same rate of people. Point being, even professionals misdiagnose at an astounding rate. This isn't to call out people in the field, most of whom are honest and want the best for their patients, but it shows that they unfortunately do make mistakes that can have terrible consequences.
@@WK-47 yup.. i was sent to one for 3 days..prolonged to 9. i said i was fine and they kept me there..i just needed a cpap machine and more sleep basically.
You know the word "Film" is only one syllable right?!
And they wonder why the public doesn't trust the authorities. It Breaks my heart as I have a daughter with special needs, shes 26 with mental age of 3 and has violent outbursts, I know that in these years she'd have ended up in one of these institutions. Its Heartbreaking ❤
The ‘????’ part during the initial doctor interview, he says ‘macho’ women. Then he describes what he means. Big, tall, husky women.
Good catch appreciate it!
@@deburke321 sure thing! I had to listen twice my own self.
The sad thing is after they closed those "hospitals" I highly doubt they replaced them with proper mental health facilities
Exactly they closed hospitals then one Gov. Branstad yes tho terrible places. DID NOT REFORM THEM NOR OPEN NEW ONES! IOWA like the rest of the USA . U(nder)S(adistic)A(ttack) on those: different , outsiders, some needing nothing but respect, respite and compassion . Not being ignored , drugged with dangerous psychotropics, and lock away in prisons . Now, so many just dump on our streets!
I watched this film recently. It's a tough watch, but I enjoy the style of letting the camera do the talking instead of narration. There's a Danish filmmaker called Lars Engels who made a lot of similar documentaries in this style, focusing on the very rough part of Vesterbro, an area in Copenhagen, and its people who are mostly drunks, prostitutes, and homeless. They are worth watching if you can find them with subtitles.
Fillim or film?
@@williamcozart8158 🤣
@@williamcozart8158 Beat me to it... ;)
Where do you find these
I highly recommend a book called The Psychopath Test, about the fact that if you're diagnosed as such, based on your answers to a series of arbitrary questions, it's near impossible to get out of some state mental hospitals, still. You don't have to commit a crime. It also gets into historical "treatments," like one where people were paired up and handcuffed together, naked, and fed LSD. A person interviewed for the book was cuffed to the Boston Strangler, oddly enough.😂 It's been a few years, but THAT might have been at Bridgewater.
Thank you for diving deeper on this subject. I had seen it and also had a ton of questions I thought would never be answered. You satisfied my curiosities and I appreciate it. Job well done, love your channel!
psych-wards ironically treat people similar to this even these days... not much has changed. its a psych hospital, it is not a nice place.
Sad fact seems to be though that the guard or people that are so to say supposed to CARE for some sort of well being about the people locked up in there are sadists, cruel narcissistic psychos themselves, given the authority within those walls to basically do whatever they deem necessary at any given time. I have myself witnessed an inmate/patient (they went by different names for some reason) being so drugged out of this world that they naturally would poop and pee all over themselves in a state of delirium..and then being punished for doing so when "waking up" again in the most cruel sadistic manners. Punished for something they had no awareness of having done, like sh****ng themselves when tranquilized out of this world, by the (to begin with) psycho "nurses"/guards" and a Sadistic lunatic of a head psychiatrist!
I mean, it was my first job (working as a secretary /receptionist/ telephone operator) and opportunity to start building a curriculum (a State run facility) back 40 yrs ago, and there is no way of forgetting what i saw inside those walls.
This is like if an AI watched 7000 hours of UA-cam video essays and then made its own channel
This all still happens all the time, every day. The neglect, the ignorance, the complete unwillingness to actually do anything to help and an insulted reaction when confronted, make you eat some meds and send you on your way. Its just these days its not so blatant and overt...
That vlad guy was a political prisoner i bet
I just got through watching Titicut Follies and I found it most interesting. To clarify, the guy hosting, and singing at the talent show at the beginning and the end of the movie, as well as in the birthday scene was a guard named Eddie (with a flair for showmanship), and not the superintendent. I was curious about this and researched it. The superintendent was a man by the name of Charles W. Gaughan, who was the super from 1959 - 1985. He may or may not have been in the movie, but there are pics of him online...
Big fan of your content. Keep up the great work!
MY MAN!!
I NEVER clicked so fast!
Great to see you, Brother.
They frustrate you so much (and play mental games on you) that you inevitably lose and look crazy for your reaction. Its awful.
Your movie reviews are great Deburke. I hope you would do some more documentary reviews in the future
Dude I'm so glad to see more of your stuff!! YT is effing you over, bro, I haven't had any alerts to your content, and I've been subbed and a big fan for years. Keep up the good work, man
Appreciate that! Glad this crossed your radar!
In the justice system, you have the judge, the jury and lawyers. In a mental clinic, it's only the doctor who decides. A mild conviction still can turn into a long incarceration when you have a lunatic or psychopath for a doctor.
so happy you posted! i missed your vids :(
This kind of abuse happened everywhere in the US in those times. I worked in a state mental hospital in the 1970's in Tennessee. The same kind of things you see here was happening there.
I live in the US now, and I’m scared to look up banned movies. Internet Service Providers send you letters ordering you to stop downloading illegally or banned movies. Lol Thank you for this video, Mr. Deburke!
I know UA-camrs are always pushing them, but I honestly recommend using a VPN. Neither your ISP nor anyone else has any business monitoring or restricting your activities, as long as you're not breaking the law. If they can't respect that, we have to take steps to retain our rights.
@@WK-47 agreed! I have a phone still from my previous country that I can put a VPN on and watch movies and download games but when I find a good VPN I will. Thank you!
Awesome to see you back
How fitting the judges name was Callous, since he obviously only made that ruling to protect the hospitals reputation, and he was possibly even friends with the superintendent. The only ghoulish thing i saw in this film was that mans smile.
Nice! Glad I found your channel!
I watched this doc a few years ago, and damn, it has stuck with me
I went to bridgewater for a 30 day evaluation. My lawyer put this as part of my plea deal. Long story short a much older man tried doing things with my 13 year old niece so I hurt him and because it was violent my lawyer made that part of my plea just to make it sound better I guess. I am sure bridgewater was definitely a horrible place back then and it was nothing fantastic when I went 8 years ago but it was definitely a lot more structured and more stable than in this documentary. When I went to state prison after this to some regard it was no different than bridgewater because I believe there was many men there who desperately needed mental health treatment but at bridgewater I met some of the most respectful and caring people that you’d never think anything was wrong. Sometimes you’d get a hint something was wrong and sometimes they were fully lost in their insanity but there was many nice people and when you find out what some of them were there for it paints a very different picture. My reason for writing this is that although it was far from being an ideal place and I wish they did shut the lights off more to sleep, bridgewater seems to be doing a lot better than in this documentary.
that,sir is how it;s done.
That is definitely how to deal with these vile creatures and I truly hope that you and your niece are doing much better now.
@@Svvithred thanks buddy I appreciate that a lot, she’s about to be 22 in college and is doing very well. My sister lost custody of my niece because she wasn’t taking her to school and at the time my sister was going through addiction so I took custody of her. In a lot of ways she felt like my daughter and by doing what I did to that monster I did almost lose her I can’t picture many people being able to control their emotions in that type of situation.
@@BlackMetalGraffitithis country is like a paradise to sickos
Deburke is the Internet Historian of this realm of content.
That’s high praise I’m a big fan of Internet Historian!
Thank you soooooo much for putting this back on. I was trying to find the video of that lovely 'patient' that i couldnt see why he was there. Apart from being very articulate moreso that the so called experts who had the power to put him where he was. (Too smart and intelligent i would say was that poor mans crime who would have rubbed the 'professionals' up the wrong way even though he remained impeccably composed considering his position) any sane person would have hit the roof and would have had to have been put in a straight jacket!!! 9.56!!! That's the wonderful man apparently his niece is planning on writing a book about him but someone needs to make a film about that man! 😞😟 His niece 'Karen Adams?' Kindly commented that her uncle Vladimir eventually got out in 1973, lived in supportive housing in Brockton and worked part time until he died in 1996. I'm intrigued to know what could have been wrong with him to end up there. He shows amazing control of his anger, he was also very handsome so it'll be a great part for a young unknown actor (stop keep dragging in the same old bunch) it'll be an amazing film. (i bet Vladimir had some horrors to tell). As for that correctly named narcissistic 'everyone look at me' chief warden he looks similar to a now retired politician/former house of commons speaker in England called John Bercow. (For anyone remotely interested!!! 😂) probably made a sir or lord by now doesn't require much seeing Sir Jimmy Saville received a knighthood. Well, NOT requirements they'd want out in the open anyway 🙄🤔🤨. Poor Vladimir, his case haunts me.
Love your channel dude, youre always talking about something super interesting that I've never even heard of. Keep up the great work ❤
Also, am I tripping or are you pronouncing "film" as "fill-im" ? Lol i cant unhear it
it driving me utterly insane the way he says "film"
edit: upon further inspection, it is an irish thing
@@RFHWYD it's always an Irish thing
I don`t get your shock at doctors and orderlies smoking? Almost everyone used to smoke and smoking at work was no issue until much, much later. I smoked at work throughout the 90s here in the UK and it was only banned in the early 2000s. Back then i don`t suppose anyone knew about passive smoking until the 70s/80s?
Good point. That shows how young this human must be. They don't remember a time when not that long ago we could still smoke almost anywhere, even department stores.
Yes few decades ago people smoked in airports, on planes even on TV. No one really cared
Things have changed a lot I suppose? Doctors even used to advise people smoke for asthma before it was realised just how bad it is for you. Nicotine is an incredibly difficult addiction to quit too. It took me 15 years or so to quit.
I actually had a larger point to make that I forgot to include. At around 11 minutes when the body is being prepared for the funeral, a bit of ash falls onto the mans body, he's later cremated meaning his ashes and the cigarette ash are mixed together. It's widely believed Wiseman included this to show that the workers at the hospital put a similar value on the patients and there cigarettes, just disposable things that eventually turn into ash.
Of course I forgot to mention any of that so it just looks like I mentioned them smoking for no reason but there was supposed to be a larger point haha.
They used to deliver babies with a cig hanging out their mouths. Check the cervix with no gloves. Good times.
I knew places/people like this existed, but damn. Another great video as always!!
I'd have guessed the superintendent was a patient if judging strictly by looks and behaviors.
I've been in mental hospital three times in my life (mixed personality disorder) and I haven't been for six years now,I'm doing relatively fine in life..but I can tell you all for sure,some of those doctors there are the ones who are REALLY messed up in their heads.
Personality disorder ? Mixed ? Borderline and a narcissist
@@juanvaldez5422 have some of borderline but not full to be borderline and zero narcissist. that's one thing I don't have.
And you wonder why all these now abandoned buildings that were asylums are haunted AF!! Think of all the pain misery suffering agony and on and on that goes on…..
This definitely deserved its own video!
My great grandmother and I lived in the same mental institution. She in 1950 and I was there 2006/2021.
This mistreated/straight out torture isn't changed in the slightest.
It is here well known that most people that are forced in mental institutions are never getting out. The handfull of people that get out are left with scars for life.
I live 15 mins from Bridgewater. All the state hospitals were like this, unfortunately. Suffer the little children is an eyeoperning one too. About Pennhurst
Heartbreaking and outraging 😢😩😭🤬
Dude I love your content
If you ended up in such a "mental health" facility, you'd most likely would never be released ever again. The thought of that is terrifying. And one thing that it also solidifies is that the government (any government for that matter) doesn't like to admit any wrong doings which is a gigantic problem,....
Just woke up and this is the first thing I'm watching today, what a nice morning!
Jesus....it's hard to even watch just this...let alone the full documentary
I worked in a mental facility, and I only lasted three days as a nurse, I remember going home crying to my mother and telling her what I saw and that I was not going to return. They do abuse the patients, and some of the staff look just as crazy. I remember being lost and walking in on a Dr and some nurses shocking a patients head, and the patient was crying one of the nurses yelled at me and told me to get F out of there. I ended up reporting everything to the state. I went on to get my CLS and run my own lab now. Last I heard, they closed that facility down for good. It takes a special person to work in certain departments, like a mental facility or a burn unit. It's a horrible experience to witness.
Thank you for reporting what you knew!
Real hero, rip & god bless to all those souls. They are no longer down here on hell of a earth. Great commentary & video bruh
Phil-mmm
Nothing to this degree, but I remember the behavioral center I was sent to as a kid several times, as well as the adult facility I went to years later. My mother was sent to an even worse one than the one I went to as an adult. And then my youngest sibling had his pants ripped off by a fellow patient when he went to one, with my mom not finding out right away due to them pulling him away from the phone when trying to tell her. Patients were often over medicated in every facility, behavioral centers for children often having patients coming in and out and staying up to a month at a time (in my brother's case, some were kept much longer due to being passed back and forth between hospitals). Adult facilities would only keep people for a couple of days, in contrast, but would still see a high return rate. There was also a divide in the adult facilities that I remember distinctly being absent from the children's ward: patients who were "crazy", and patients who claimed they weren't and who made fun of or otherwise simply avoided those they thought of as more "messed up". I also remember when I was a kid, certain staff members were pretty weird, one telling me he wanted an exorcism performed on me (goth kid-only guess as to why he brought that up, but still inappropriate). My brother's stay was the worst though, with clothing being taken from the kids a punishment as well as being forced to sleep in the common area on air mattresses if they so much as talked back.
Absolutely love your videos! Keep up the great work.. that being said..I'm gonna have to somewhat play devil's advocate here. I've been a forensic psychiatric RN (criminally insane in the past, now called IST incompetent to stand trial until they're deemed NCR not criminally responsible) I've worked for numerous state institutions. The work we do is brutal. We have no tasers like the police. We have chemical and leather restraints. I'm not going to attempt to minimize anything shown here or say that evils haven't been committed by staff throughout history. But you all need to know that these people would absolutely ruin your daily routines if they were permitted to leave. They would cause a level of chaos which you can't begin to comprehend. Things have improved substantially since the days of this documentary, but we are still vastly under-staffed and need to keep a level of enforcement that, if we don't instill, the patients will overthrow us. I've encountered human-rights protestors outside of my job, and I'll say the same thing to you guys as I say to them. Go work there for one shift and then tell me how you feel. You all have no idea. The system is flawed for sure. The lack of IOP programs and re-introduction to society programs and support is abysmal. But don't demonize the staff at these places unless you have worked there yourself. We need a lot more staff and bigger institutions like we used to have. I get it, believe me, this looks terrible. But honestly... work in a state institution or volunteer for a day and then post.
The Deputy Warden from 'Shutter Island' and the Superintendent from the documentary have eerily similar mannerisms
I worked psych in the Federal BoP and I must say that we treat inmates SO much better than this now, at least in the facilities where I worked. Now these are federal prisons and it took so many riots and atrocities throughout other prisons in history to get to this point. The options for prisoners requiring psych care are often more accessible than those in the general public at the present moment, from my experience despite many pushes for mental care acceptance in the US. We really don't have many inpatient options anymore that we could use, but the option were those awful state run mental institutions and let's not go there...
Like I commented above, it's sad, and you're right. They've removed funding for psych hospitals, to the degree that mentally ill people often don't get treatment until they DO something crazy and wind up in jail or prison.
I had to stay in a behavioural hospital when I was a teenager, and although there wasn't much physical abuse, there's still a lot of issues. I could write a book on what I saw, and another book on simple reforms that would solve a lot of issues. When I was there, I was just another source of profit.
Thank you for bringing this to people’s awareness. It’s important to keep in mind that these things are still occurring today across the country. Not just to people who have committed crimes, but to average citizens and even children.
The ableism in this country is RAMPANT and it is the complete disregard of those with disabilities that allows these abuses to continue.
25% of the population (and counting because people ignore how disabling the ongoing COVID pandemic is) are disabled. But the way you would see able bodied talk about it, we hardly exist at all.
Disability is the only marginalized status that you are guaranteed to enter at sometime in your life. It might be sooner than you think.
Never thought I'd hear film pronounced with two syllables.
It's a common thing with an Irish accent. It happens to me, too.
Fil-lum is also how about 6 different Scottish accents pronounce it as well
@@Y3ntiLS0uP cool
I know, I don’t think I can watch this.
@@Y3ntiLS0uPexcept this man doesn’t have a Scottish or Irish accent. He’s American and it’s giving me anxiety
I been to a couple mental places for depression and I went in on everyone. They don’t help people they don’t even try. I got them to actually put in effort and do what the state thought they did, they had us sign papers that we did group stuff or sessions but didn’t actually do them. I changed that in Massillon and I hope they still try
Massillon state in Ohio?
@@eatmoreporkporky4342 heartland, in Massillon OH. Judging by the reviews I just seen to find the name out, it didn’t stick to actually doing the therapy and group activities. Just making people sign the papers that tells the state those are being completed.
I saw this uploaded onto youtube once. It was very humbling, to say the least.
Amazing how the gaurds thought that taunting the criminally insane would be a good move. I'd be afraid an escapee would follow me home just to get revenge. These gaurds feel like they would be equally useless if confronted by 1 of these men during the commission of a violent crime.
The tube used for force feeding would be so painful when introduced, and I cannot imagine being a nurse in that environment.
Let’s goo another upload I’m just about to go sleep
Fascinating and shocking ... as I comment, I am the 667th comment (666 as I view it). It's also fascinating that you pronounce the word film as "philim".
We’re clearly headed back to this same type of “treatment” no matter if you’re sane or insane, just look around and observe your local hospitals.
Oh yeah. I went to the hospital for alcohol withdrawal and they were begging me to willingly commit myself to the psych ward they call "behavioral health"
The doctors today still treat the patients with distrust. If you try to explain what is happening one on one time you are called a preacher and ignored. Flooded by over medicating this still happens.
I mean we gunna ignore how he’s saying film?
I want people to not only witness how bad "treatments" were in institutions, but WHAT they could put you in one for. At one point, that was anything. Women wanting divorce, a man with a stutter or tourettes, "troubled young adults". If you were considered a nuisance, you could be institutionalized. Things haven't improved much in the mental health or disability areas today. We're teetering on the edge of sliding closer to that shameful era.
Things are very different than they used to be and your extreme exaggeration and reliance upon the slippery slope fallacy isn't helpful it makes people not take the issue as serious when you exaggerate like that
@@KungFuGoblin420 it's not a fallacy when the Overton window is shifting on what is a mental illness or disability and how easy it can be to treat people with mental illness and disabilities like shit. When you have things like M.A.I.D. being extended to people with either that just can't afford to take care of themselves or even live. And that's just one example. Where's the paradise that you live? How are these communities doing in your area? Thriving?
It seems very odd that patients are being admitted in large groups. More like military recruits, or prisoners. Very odd.. Also, I have seen some of the documentary before and I actually thought the supervisor was a patient
"Omg the doctor is smoking!" I dunno if y'all knew this, but back then, everyone was smoking, everywhere, all the time.
I'm starting to think that the doctor is actually a patient playing a doctor..
That’s what it looked like 😳 real creepy
@@P-P-Panda He was super creepy and didn't care one bit, also seemed to have no education..
Thank you for reviewing this documentary with the dignity it deserves. I've always hated seeing people post about Titticut Follies just to go "WOW it's so WEIRD!" but it's a genuinely horrifying look into what the post-war mental health industry was like. People were herded into these facilities and just treated as free-range behavioural guinea pigs, if not outright experimented on. And you're right, it's an alarming thing to think about how the hospital staff were on their "best behaviour" back then...
Excellent video. Its good to see that we have made significant improvements in mental health care. Very important to see this footage. The only thing I’m surprised about is why you bothered to comment on the smoking. It was pretty ubiquitous back then, everybody smoked everywhere. I think that is more a comment on the times rather than the institution. Very informative and interesting film.
The superintendent looks like he should be an inmate. He's definitely not right.
Having been "sectioned" I can tell ya the folks yer dealin with (especially staff) can be truly horrible; it's FAR worse than prison!
Silence equals death
I searched out this documentary after seeing your original upload... to say it is disturbing would be an understatement.
I'm genuinely confused here. The people of UA-cam often say that criminals should be inhumanely punished. The people in this video are subjected to basically literal torture. Isn't this what you people wanted? Shouldn't you be celebrating how this place treated their inmates? Can someone explain this to me? Isn't this kind of thing what the people want?
FILM.... why do you keep saying Filim