Will Finland’s new Right-Wing Government Collapse?

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  • @jplabs456
    @jplabs456 Рік тому +549

    ‘The centrist Centre party.’
    A true marvel of creativity

    • @Sam_Guevenne
      @Sam_Guevenne Рік тому +17

      We have a Centrist Center party in Sweden too we also have a left party and a party called the liberals lol.

    • @Tingletonttu
      @Tingletonttu Рік тому +34

      It used to be called Maalaisliitto ("League of Farmers") back in the day.

    • @osheridan
      @osheridan Рік тому +17

      Well at least they're clear, here in Australia our liberal party is called Labour and our conservative party is called The Liberal Party

    • @patrickuotinen
      @patrickuotinen Рік тому +12

      @@osheridan In europe we would not call your Labour party liberal, but social democratic.

    • @NaSaSh1087
      @NaSaSh1087 Рік тому +5

      ​@@patrickuotinenbut unlike continental Europe, Anglo-Saxon countries have pretty capitalist centre left parties. Tony Blair is an example.

  • @riccardogemme
    @riccardogemme Рік тому +422

    Government: lasts less than a month
    Italy: "first time?"

    • @ad_astra468
      @ad_astra468 Рік тому +9

      Sinceramente non mi ricordo di un governo che è cascato in un solo mese.

    • @peterbayne7227
      @peterbayne7227 Рік тому +61

      Belgium: "You guys have a government?"

    • @riccardogemme
      @riccardogemme Рік тому +8

      Il record da quando l'Italia è una repubblica è 22 giorni. Se conti anche i governi in età monarchica, 12.

    • @HillaKarpalo
      @HillaKarpalo Рік тому +3

      Our hold my beer moment..

    • @thecynicclass
      @thecynicclass Рік тому

      che poi hanno i nostri stessi problemi di ministri che fanno str*nzate e mozioni di sfiducia alla C.d.C

  • @VYZD846
    @VYZD846 Рік тому +1099

    From my understanding of Finnish politics, the Swedish People’s Party / SFP will almost always enter into a coalition with any ruling government (2015 being an exception) to ensure that Swedish remains as an official language in Finland and ensure that Swedish-speaking Finnish people’s rights and interests are protected and maintained

    • @Remuf
      @Remuf Рік тому +262

      As a fin, i can say this is mostly true, the sfp wants to keep swedish mandatory to study in school while only 5% of finland's population speaks swedish as their first language

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому +123

      That's true. The problem is that the swedish speaking population is decreasing. It used to be about 10% of the population. Now it's about 5%.

    • @mateigheorghiu
      @mateigheorghiu Рік тому +104

      @@Remuf I'd add that since they get a constant of 10 mps in every election due to the strategic positioning of their electorate, they do not ever face any electoral pressure and therefore are able to be in power all the time, I don't think it's just about the Swedish language. I'm both Romanian and Finn, and in Romania there's a similar ethnic Hungarian party with no electoral pressure who joins every government.

    • @him_That_is_me
      @him_That_is_me Рік тому

      They are actually just our trojan horse for when we want to return Finnland to Swedish ownership. Please don't make any comparison with Ukraine Russia, we aren't going to fail to take Helsinki in 3 days

    • @sentteri
      @sentteri Рік тому +37

      The only time they haven't been in the government in recent memory (2015-2019) their head of party quit immediately and gave a statement to the media along the lines of "F**k this, I was told I'd get to be a minister." So it seems to be ingrained to the party's self-image deeply. I'm naturally paraphrasing, but you could see that on the guy's face when he said it.

  • @TobiasPreston1
    @TobiasPreston1 Рік тому +375

    Any videos planned on the sudden collapse of the Dutch government yesterday?

    • @louisjefferies2733
      @louisjefferies2733 Рік тому +114

      That was yesterday, remember they have to write a script, record the video and then edit it so it could take a few days

    • @Wolf-yr1qy
      @Wolf-yr1qy Рік тому +2

      Seems like every European government is collapsing or has already collapsed.

    • @Talisguy
      @Talisguy Рік тому +43

      There are no more slow news days and they're not a 24 hour news channel, they can't cover everything as soon as it happens.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому +21

      So an average Dutch Thursday you mean?

    • @flukemmvii
      @flukemmvii Рік тому +10

      Might take a while, he does say at the end of each video that the TLDR team spends more and more time analysing data

  • @SourVodka
    @SourVodka Рік тому +41

    Why are priests from Finland so good at Mortal Kombat?
    They're especially well-versed in Finnish hymns.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Рік тому +2

      OGM that is genuinely hilarious where di u hear that thank you!!🤣🤣🤣

  • @pitfriend
    @pitfriend Рік тому +473

    "Government Collapse" sounds like a bad thing but is it really a bad thing if it's a bad government collapsing and if it results in a better government being elected? It would mean that things are working correctly.

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 Рік тому +74

      The only cases where it's a bad thing is when it happens frequently.

    • @SEAZNDragon
      @SEAZNDragon Рік тому +13

      Thing is government collapse is not really associated with Finland.

    • @patterisepi
      @patterisepi Рік тому +30

      In this case it would be bad, the last government tried its very best to drive Finland to bankrupcy. The antidemocratic part of the nation tries to overthrow the new cabinet by any excuse.

    • @mielivalta
      @mielivalta Рік тому +2

      This was inevitable from the election results.

    • @hauskalainen
      @hauskalainen Рік тому

      Agreed...all this is proving is that Persut (aka the Finns Party) are not nice people and should not be in government. The Centre Party voters decided to punish them for being in government with Marin and Anderson and voted Persut. Former centre party voters are like the Brits who were angry with Cameron for his Austerity policies voting for Brexit just to punch him one on the nose. Now it is ten times worse. Be careful what you vote for. If you don't want closet Neo Nazis in government, don't vote for them.

  • @mikaelantonkurki
    @mikaelantonkurki Рік тому +305

    As a Finnish national, though i would not go and bet my money on it, I would not be surprised if the government would ultimately collapse. The Swedish party certanly isn't all that fond of its coalition partners despite all the attempts at easing tensions.

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому +5

      At the least, I believe we can agree, that they're off to a very rocky start.

    • @mikaelantonkurki
      @mikaelantonkurki Рік тому +5

      @@RabbitShirak Oh absolutely.

    • @williamsmeds1368
      @williamsmeds1368 Рік тому +24

      We don't like Perussuomalaiset. That's all. It's already surprising that our party agreed to go in a coalition with them in the first place.

    • @snowtinttu3562
      @snowtinttu3562 Рік тому

      I mean Persut have been the only party actually threaten to collapse the goverment, so i would bet its gonna be up to them if the goverment collapses most likely.

    • @heisenbachofficial9437
      @heisenbachofficial9437 Рік тому +6

      Why join a coalition if you don't want to cooperate with your partners?

  • @welwin0389
    @welwin0389 Рік тому +267

    Well, I don't know about Finland, but I know the Dutch government just did

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Рік тому +10

      If only the Irish government politics would, despite scandal after scandal after scandal after sandals 🩴

    • @zenxel
      @zenxel Рік тому +2

      What happened

    • @wkblauwster
      @wkblauwster Рік тому +26

      @@zenxel in the dutch goverment the leading parties could not come to a agreement on asylum and migration policy so the government fell yesterday with new elections later this year as result.

    • @Welgeldiguniekalias
      @Welgeldiguniekalias Рік тому +19

      @@wkblauwster That is an obvious lie by Rutte. They had been negotiating for ages and the deal was practically done. Moreover, we are finally seeing an EU immigration policy take shape. This crisis was manufactured for political reasons. I hope there won't be a Rutte 5.

    • @zenxel
      @zenxel Рік тому +6

      @@wkblauwster
      They seriously collapsed over immigration, I thought there was a major catastrophe that the government failed to handle.
      Europe is weird.

  • @soccerguy325
    @soccerguy325 Рік тому +43

    Just FYI: the graphic is wrong at 0:36 and 6:20. The bottom arrow is pointing to Riikka Purra, the head of the Finns (and the Deputy PM and Minister of Finance), not Mari Rantanen (Rantanen is in the back, third from the left).

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 Рік тому +3

      To be fair, their very name states Too Long; Didn't Research.

  • @spacemanke3814
    @spacemanke3814 Рік тому +63

    For anyone wondering why the centre party isn't in the new finnish government even though they would be an easy parter because they are very moderate.
    It is because the center party lost so hard in the election that they chose to voluntarily go in to the opposition because it is easier to gather popularity in the opposition.

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Рік тому

      I voted them, but won't vote again.
      They basically said right from the get go, they'll stay out of government and won't even negotiate about it.
      I was simply... WTF?
      I voted them so they could push their policies forward, instead they stab the voters they still have in the back and walk away to play pointless image politics in order gain more votes next time.
      F.... them.

    • @Nekoksu
      @Nekoksu Рік тому

      No.... No... No... The reason was because the "CENTRE" has become a part of the far left and we finns are fucking had it with the far left bullshit. You can try to twist in it any way you want, but that is the truth. Sanna Marin had her controversies, yet no media has talked about her in a bad manner. That's fucking bullshit. Our earlier PM's have gotten yeeted out for lesser reasons but the people are all like "OH WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING OUR YOUNG FEMALE PRIME MINISTER". Fucking hypocrites.

    • @karigrandii
      @karigrandii Рік тому

      And they don’t want to work with nazis

  • @JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff.
    @JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff. Рік тому +363

    I love the fact that my country's news is getting some attention and I appreciate the analysis, even though obviously roughly ten minutes isn't enough to fully cover anything it's a pretty comprehensive starting point for anyone who wants to do further digging.
    But, by God is it painful to listen to all the mispronouncing of names.
    Either way I'm glad the TLDR team does what it does to keep people better informed of the world around them.

    • @tonycook7679
      @tonycook7679 Рік тому +32

      Finnish pronunciation is the invention of the devil. I think the idea of the Tower of Babel came after someone heard Finnish being spoken. It's unfair to expect anyone not born to speak Suomi to pronounce the names of its citizens. Mind you Hungarian and Polish are also incomprehensible.

    • @MrSamulai
      @MrSamulai Рік тому +97

      ​@@tonycook7679 Our language is phonetic; you pronounce the words exactly as they are written. It's easier than 95% of all languages and the only reason it appears hard is that you expect it to work like the chaotic amalgamation we call English.

    • @RendallRen
      @RendallRen Рік тому +20

      You have to give him credit for that pronunciation of Sauli Niinistö though. He obviously practiced and did quite well. 6:53

    • @daniellarson3068
      @daniellarson3068 Рік тому +8

      All of my ancestors come from Finland. I was taught to revere these old folks. I was taught that the people of the "old country" did things wisely. Our popular media says the Finnish people are the happiest in the world, they have a great education system and manage their economy well. They seem to have great social programs to help their citizens. It is a surprise to see that they have intolerant right wing politicians just like at home. However, I've never seen a KKK snowman before. People are people.

    • @Sahtoovi
      @Sahtoovi Рік тому +30

      @@tonycook7679 finnish pronunciation is incredibly easy and you won't have to think about which exact pronunciation out of 25 different ones you should use for an a. there is one pronunciation for one letter and the cases where that is not the case are very rare.

  • @sup3rAVATARtlafAN
    @sup3rAVATARtlafAN Рік тому +298

    Probably why here in Sweden the three governing parties didn’t want to govern with the Swedish democrats (the Finns party sister party) because of problems like these could potentially occur. Not saying they would, but you’d never know.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому

      Working together with extremists and fascists hurt everyone in society. They are pure evil and politically incompetent as well.

    • @gavasiarobinssson5108
      @gavasiarobinssson5108 Рік тому

      The fascist journalists are covering up anything the globalist parties do. Enjoying the latest bombings. Sweden rip.

    • @annikamyren3026
      @annikamyren3026 Рік тому

      ​@@UnknownAbraham"no-go zons" ?
      Vilket jäkla påhitt 😂
      Vi har däremot ett jävla problem med idiotgäng .....

    • @macuma5533
      @macuma5533 Рік тому

      @@UnknownAbraham You just pulled that out of your ass with such gusto

    • @slickrick2420
      @slickrick2420 Рік тому

      ​@@UnknownAbrahamno go zones are a myth but yea the rest can't be denied even tho it's exaggerated for clicks however, Finland has a higher murder rate per capita than Sweden... Thoughts on that?

  •  Рік тому +20

    Sanna Marin was the youngest but not by a big margin, in 90s we had prime minister Esko Aho who was 36 when elected.

  • @danimalplanet18
    @danimalplanet18 Рік тому +305

    It's something you see across many western countries: the right wing can sell their politics quite convincingly which causes popularity and electoral gains, but when politics must become policy and when politicians must become administrators, the right wing often fall short. In government they regularly come across amateuristic, or improvised and it is often short-lived.

    • @maximusasauluk7359
      @maximusasauluk7359 Рік тому

      It's because most of the old farts that are probably already edging dementia and have no future keep voting on the same crazy shit. If there is a minimum age voting limit, there should also be a maximum age limit too.
      Why do old people that will be dead in like 5 years have a say in the future they don't have?

    • @Alex.The.Lionnnnn
      @Alex.The.Lionnnnn Рік тому +28

      Donald Trump never came accross....actually never mind. 😂

    • @bloodwargaming3662
      @bloodwargaming3662 Рік тому +1

      Iam a leftist ik people are going to ignore and call my comment naturally biased but here is the reality except for everyone right wing economics idont think on the social side the right has any real policy it's just emotional appeal to the people and scare mongering . I mean yeah immigrants are a big problem but you trying to sell people that they are going to get replaced by muslims in 10 years lmao good luck with that

    • @fbajk
      @fbajk Рік тому +1

      Don't think this is a bad thing though @danimalplanet18! It shows the established parties that the only reason they are in power, is because of the voters, it shows how little control they truly have and in my opinion it gives them a well deserved reality check to get things back on track!

    • @haidouk872
      @haidouk872 Рік тому +44

      @@fbajk But it does waste time, time that we're already short of, with the accelerating climate warming :(

  • @RabbitShirak
    @RabbitShirak Рік тому +76

    For future videos, J in finnish is pronounced the same as Y in english.
    Yeah, I've seen people making bets on long this government will survive. Someone said it will collapse this year, but I think next year is more likely.
    All in all, I think that either the government collapses or the Finns party does.

    • @Anublet90
      @Anublet90 Рік тому +4

      "J in finnish is pronounced the same as Y in english."
      Eh? You're gonna have to be more specific than that I think, if I ask "why?", there's not a single sound in there that sounds like a Finnish 'j'.

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому +14

      @@Anublet90 J is same as Y in for example, the word young.

    • @Anublet90
      @Anublet90 Рік тому +1

      @elfrjz What quirk?

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому +5

      ⁠@elfrjzI don't know about other European languages, but in Finnish the letter Y makes a sound, that doesn't exist in the English language, similar to the German Ü. I think the English J has similarities with the French J, but I could be wrong.
      I think Swedish and German J's are similar to a Finnish J.

    • @prplt
      @prplt Рік тому +10

      @elfrjz most European languages pronounce J as Y, it's just English and Romance languages that don't

  • @arttutanner3693
    @arttutanner3693 Рік тому +341

    Small correction: Kokoomus could have formed coalition with SDP, Greens and Swedish People Party, but they chose the more right wing coalition since they wanted to make huge cuts from the wellfare and services and ditch the climate targets. SDP and Greens would not have gone along with that. So it was more like a "deal with the devil" to get their agenda implemented.

    • @tuketsi4073
      @tuketsi4073 Рік тому +36

      To be fair the greens might not have wanted to have another term in government as their popularity would take another hit

    • @KamiInValhalla
      @KamiInValhalla Рік тому +5

      A good example of being careful what you wish for

    • @parokki
      @parokki Рік тому +27

      Honestly there were no good choices. The Greens had announced they're going into opposition due to their poor performance. SDP ran on an opposite platform to the NCP and a coalition between them would've been really hard. The current coalition is the NCP's best chance to get their economic reforms through, but it doesn't look like the Finns can pass for sensible adults long enough for any laws to get passed.

    • @patterisepi
      @patterisepi Рік тому +6

      The financial situation is dire and getting worse, another term of SDP would have resulted in a non reversible financial situation.

    • @luuttaja
      @luuttaja Рік тому

      ''ditch the climate targets'' is a blatant lie, they're keeping on with the same plan that the previous gov. had.

  • @gamerxplanetx8637
    @gamerxplanetx8637 Рік тому +99

    As always, opposition is good at opposing when they carry no responsibilities but does not really know how to lead a government

    • @Tuukkohakee
      @Tuukkohakee Рік тому +4

      Kokoomus doesn’t know how to lead a goverment? Or you just don’t know Finnish politics. Most of the crisies have been started by the media and since then there has been quite an politically motivated race to find anything on the new goverment resulting to even false articles. The junnila case is justified, and the Finns are a different bunch, but the goverment itself doesn’t seem to that shaken, just the media and some of the public.

    • @The_Midnight_Bear
      @The_Midnight_Bear Рік тому +10

      ​@@Tuukkohakeei think he's talking about the Perussuomalaiset

    • @Tuukkohakee
      @Tuukkohakee Рік тому +1

      @@The_Midnight_Bear The perussuomalaiset are thankfully not leading the goverment.

    • @akilemmetyinen4867
      @akilemmetyinen4867 Рік тому +7

      ​@@TuukkohakeeKokoomus is obviously lost on leadership and anyone can see and many have noted how Orpo is not in charge at all. Horrible leadership.

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому

      ⁠@@akilemmetyinen4867which is weird, since Kokoomus has a lot of experience in running a government.

  • @lehtinen24
    @lehtinen24 Рік тому +14

    Correction. At 6:20 that's not the interior minister Mari Rantanen, but instead Riikka Purra, finance minister and leader of the finns party.

  • @vilestine
    @vilestine Рік тому +21

    Day before the release of this video, Halla-Aho announced he can be used as canditate for the presidental election.

  • @TheCoBBus
    @TheCoBBus Рік тому +13

    6:21 the arrow is pointing to Riikka Purra, Finns leader; I believe Mari is on the back row 3rd from the left

  • @jaakkomantyjarvi7515
    @jaakkomantyjarvi7515 Рік тому +20

    Helpful tip: In Finnish, word stress is always (ALWAYS) on the first syllable.

  • @picklechin2716
    @picklechin2716 Рік тому +36

    Who could have known. If you put a bunch of 4chan users together, it wont make a coherent party.

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому +8

      Are you saying that every 5th voter is a typical 4chan user? That's alot of 4chan users. It's the second biggest party in Finland, almost the biggest, they have political objectives that the Finns are after but the other parties aren't.

    • @soulsborne7765
      @soulsborne7765 Рік тому +5

      ​@@wtyuuhyes

    • @OskarVanBruce
      @OskarVanBruce Рік тому

      ​@@wtyuuhThey may not be, but they certainly voted for a party full of 4chan conspiparanoics and bigots who appeal to their emotions instead of reason.

    • @picklechin2716
      @picklechin2716 Рік тому

      @@wtyuuh I am saying the people in the party are 4chan users. And also the voter base is 50+ or 4chan users. Once you're retired, you shouldn't have the right to vote. None of the other parties are after the goals they are after, because the goals are stupid, useless and hurts the country.

    • @finnishyank7413
      @finnishyank7413 Рік тому +1

      @@wtyuuh I seriously doubt many Finns are after the extreme rhetoric the basic Finns stand for or they would have gotten a much higher share of the vote.

  • @stanlay204
    @stanlay204 Рік тому +177

    As a Slovak, I find it interesting that countries like Finland have a similar mess in politics as our country. Well, our people are similar in a way that not that many foreign immigrants want to go there, yet we are the most afraid of them

    • @karankapoor2701
      @karankapoor2701 Рік тому +45

      Just look at france

    • @samueltrusik3251
      @samueltrusik3251 Рік тому

      eh, u nás niesú politici tak hrozne rasistický a extrémistický. To čo fašisti hovoria vo Fínsku je na úplne inej úrovni.

    • @WSithole1997
      @WSithole1997 Рік тому +34

      ​@@karankapoor2701 I think you're missing the point. For 1 France is France because of France. Finland aren't remotely close to the history of France. So their irrational fear of immigrants doesn't make sense when there are no immigrants trying to go there or even having a history linked to them. If Finland had strong links to Muslim countries it'd make sense but they don't.

    • @theonlylauri
      @theonlylauri Рік тому +53

      During the 2015 migrant crisis, Finland was 5th most popular destination per capita, overtaking even Germany (if only barely). For a long time few people wanted to come due to our location far from primary immigration routes, and most who came to Nordics preferred Sweden where they already had some relatives or at least an ethnic community. This led to some fairly lax asylum policies and a generous refugee quota, which was perfectly fine back then, but it's starting to become problematic. Gang crime, honor violence and other issues all too familiar from various European countries are also slowly growing. It's not a major problem, but you'll need ideological blinders to see it as a non-issue that can't get worse.

    • @tnickknight
      @tnickknight Рік тому +19

      Slovak has taken action to make sure they don't become a dumping ground for the countries that welcomed this problem

  • @Pikkabuu
    @Pikkabuu Рік тому +32

    You should have added in that the new minister is a former National Coalition party member who was kicked out when he was accused of misbehaviour.

    • @johtajakansio
      @johtajakansio Рік тому +23

      Let's just say he has taste for under-aged girls. The party doesn't care because he wasn't convicted however. Shows the values of these concervatives.

    • @jwil4286
      @jwil4286 Рік тому +7

      @@johtajakansio”he wasn’t convicted”
      I thought he was innocent until proven guilty

    • @Pikkabuu
      @Pikkabuu Рік тому +1

      @@johtajakansio
      Supposedly. He wasn't convicted which does clear him of the charges.

    • @johtajakansio
      @johtajakansio Рік тому +1

      @@jwil4286 Under age, but not statutory. Yeah it's "legal".

    • @boneleg6952
      @boneleg6952 Рік тому

      ​@@johtajakansiotyhmä liberaali paska sukupuolia on kaksi holtiton velan otto ei ole ratkaisu et ole mie sjos et äänestä oikeistoa

  • @melissah2863
    @melissah2863 Рік тому +12

    1:16 you messed up logos of centrists and greens. I assume that I know how that happened, there is a bit of a mess with colours of parties. But this is still a mistake

  • @taqitahmid50
    @taqitahmid50 Рік тому +47

    In the whole Europe, the asylum issue needs to be resolved. Otherwise more and more far right mindset will emerge. If the politicians from traditional left and right tighten the border control, reevaluate asylum policies (not biting more than you can eat like Sweden), and integrate the already present migrants first then the crisis could be averted. The countries not doing anything when their citizens are illegally crossing borders should be sanctioned or warned of sanctions.

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Рік тому +2

      Very smart words.

    • @Sam_Guevenne
      @Sam_Guevenne Рік тому +2

      But we need more thats the problem we have a very old population and a pretty low birthrate.

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Рік тому +9

      @@Sam_Guevenne Better to live in declining economy than declining culture.
      And I definitely don't mean immigrants culture is in anyway worse necessarily, nor that they necessarily have a negative effect on our culture.
      It's simply that everything affects everything else, so larger cultural diversity leads to dilution of cultures affected. Globalism in many ways is the death of diversity, hence we need more protective and thoughtful immigration and integration.
      I don't see it wrong to say I want to protect the cultural sphere I was born and raised into. Everyone should the same in my opinion, as well as respect others (barring the obviously immoral and unethical aspects).

    • @SapeHallward
      @SapeHallward Рік тому +1

      They like the cheap labour so that won't happen.

    • @hello-rq8kf
      @hello-rq8kf Рік тому

      @@Sam_Guevenneyou need that population to keep housing expensive, wages low, and pensions paying so that the boomer electorate can fuck over your future while they take their money to the grave

  • @SamuliK96
    @SamuliK96 Рік тому +9

    Marin replaced Rinne in late 2019, not 2017

  • @robinviden9148
    @robinviden9148 Рік тому +33

    Who could ever have imagined that having the Swedish People's Party and the Finns Party in the same government coalition could mean trouble? 😂

  • @tonttu7979
    @tonttu7979 Рік тому +28

    As a finn i find the "left-right" spectrum a bit shitty at describing the politics of each party, or atleast how its done in this video. Ill try my best to explain the major parties:
    The NCP (kokoomus) is a neoliberal party. Economically way more right wing than the Finns party, which is still far right but more concerned with identity politics and immigration while still trying to seem like a party for the workers. NCP wants to privatise industries and give more handouts to business owners, the Finns want gas to be cheap and the cashiers at the gas station to be white. Theyre excellent at quoting ecofascists of the turn of the 19th century without knowing how to read.
    The centre party who try to preach moderation and also the interests of those living in the country side. Very boring rhetoric so they got absolutely destroyed by the Finns party, with many voters switching over. Theyre known for slithering their way into government coallitions and blocking every change because its too radical, unless it fucks over the poors only a little.
    The green party is often seen as left, but economically theyre very split, and surprisingly right wing aswell. They want a green transition that still keeps the profits high, which is highly unlikely. Chronically urban.
    The socdems are your basic lukewarm european centre left labour party that wants higher taxes and more public services. They lie a lot and do just enough to piss off the right wing but are also known to hate strikers which pisses off the left.
    Then there's the left alliance, who are demsocs and left socdems who are scared of socialism despite marketing almost entirely to socialist voters. They also suck at this, being somehow allergic to any vaguely populist messaging so instead of most of the workers, they end up attracting mainly urban students by citing data and graphs. Still they have connections to the unions.
    The swedish people's party who are basically a lighter version of the NCP who also want to keep swedish mandatory in schools.
    The christian democrats who are very conservative but not as right wing economically as the NCP. Deathly afraid of any gay or trans people.
    Then there are minor parties, like the fascists, the crystal people, animal rights party, right wing conspiracy theory party, the feminist party, some registered but mainly unregistered communist parties of different flavours, the pirate party, the liberal party (libertarians for the americans still reading) and so on

    • @nietzscheankant6984
      @nietzscheankant6984 Рік тому

      "The socdems are your basic lukewarm european centre left labour party that wants higher taxes and more public services. They lie a lot and do just enough to piss off the right wing but are also known to hate strikers which pisses off the left."
      Rofl, this is just about the most biased, truth-twisting bullshit you could've made up, trusting foreigners not to know better.
      (For what it matters, I'm not a supporter of SD, but out of all the major parties [atm. NCP, SD, and the ethnonationalist morons of the "Finns" party], SDs are easily the most honest and responsible ones, they actually push for progressive change in society (stuff like marriage equality and improving trans rights etc.), and they definitely defend the unions and workers' rights (their opponents are always accusing them of being the political arm of the workers' unions, which makes your lies about them being against workers' rights absolutely absurd).
      But sure, trying to ensure adequate funding for health services etc. is just them "wanting higher taxes" for those evil "public services".

    • @captainvanisher988
      @captainvanisher988 Рік тому +2

      using terms as "ecofascists" and "deathly afraid of gays and trans" gave away exactly what you vote for.
      I'd say left alliance or green party.

    • @tonttu7979
      @tonttu7979 Рік тому +8

      ​@@captainvanisher988never claimed to be impartial. Id never vote for the greens theyre too economically liberal for me, its usually the left as a compromise but theyre a bit too soft for my taste. Id have an easier time in the voting box if we actually won the civil war but hey, atleast its not an overly biased description of the parties when i hate all of them to some degree.
      (Also the rethoric of many finns party members is objectively very similar to self proclaimed ecofascists. White replacement and all that)

    • @captainvanisher988
      @captainvanisher988 Рік тому +1

      @@tonttu7979 There's no such thing as "ecofascists". It's a term climate alarmists use for anyone who disagrees with the diagnosis of humans being the driving factor to climate change (which if you look at any actual science about is 100% scientifically sound).
      But I am glad I was about right in my own diagnosis lol.

    • @tonttu7979
      @tonttu7979 Рік тому

      @@captainvanisher988 there is a thing called ecofascism, because people call themselves ecofascists and write manifestos about it. It centers around the belief that the main struggles of climate change are overpopulation and refugees. It has roots in the early "enviromentalism" of late 1800s and early 1900s America that ended up inspiring Hitler

  • @Zarobien
    @Zarobien Рік тому +2

    That woman pointed in the picture is not Mari Rantanen. Mari Rantanen is the short blonde in the back. That one is Riikka Purra, finance minister. But yes, her hate writings have also been recovered since then. So we are at 4/8 ministers and 1/1 speaker of the parlament.

  • @Nikitiitta
    @Nikitiitta Рік тому +8

    6:21 thats not Mari Rantanen, thats Riikka Purra. Rantanen is in the back row on the left

  • @runklestiltskin_2407
    @runklestiltskin_2407 Рік тому +91

    Surprise, you make a pact with the devil and you wonder why he is doing evil.

    • @karankapoor2701
      @karankapoor2701 Рік тому +11

      Kinda like German left and greens collation

    • @louisjefferies2733
      @louisjefferies2733 Рік тому +17

      ​@karankapoor2701 do you mean about the FDP being the devil

    • @JustInTimeWorldbuilding
      @JustInTimeWorldbuilding Рік тому +17

      Remember when the scandals were Sanna partying? Good times....

    • @karankapoor2701
      @karankapoor2701 Рік тому +7

      @@louisjefferies2733 I mean greens being the party of 🤡

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 Рік тому

      What did the devil do? All these moral panic far right parties decry everything and anything as Satanist

  • @365smartyboy
    @365smartyboy Рік тому +17

    Ben's pronunciation of Finnish names is the best thing

  • @OtakuboyT
    @OtakuboyT Рік тому +44

    Reactionaries can't goveren. It NEVER goes well. How many times do we have to keep learning this lesson.

    • @notastone4832
      @notastone4832 Рік тому

      LOL.. they sure govern better than liberals

    • @pekkanumminen81
      @pekkanumminen81 Рік тому

      Maybe, but we don´t have reactionary parties in Finland, so I don´t care.

    • @Xo-3130
      @Xo-3130 Рік тому +10

      That literally doesn't really hold up when nations like Japan and Singapore have been lead by right-wing governments for decades. This is more a sign of the issue with coalition governments being made up of parties with Divergent interests.

    • @einosalama
      @einosalama Рік тому

      ​@@Xo-3130are you high, or just ignorant? Japan is DYING, their population is crashing, their harsh immigration law is only making it worse. Japanese people have become miserable due to the work culture and the birthrate + happiness is suffering because of it. Japan is the exact proof of what unmeasured reactionary thought can do to a country

    • @douglasmacarthur702
      @douglasmacarthur702 Рік тому +9

      Italy and Greece have never been more functional than they are right now.

  • @vem9583
    @vem9583 Рік тому +53

    Finn here! Pretty much summed it up. NCP's (the largest party led by prime minister Petteri Orpo) only goal for the government was to cut welfare. They were ready to co-operate with anyone. They had two choices, a Centrist coalition with SDP, Greens and the Swedes, or a right-wing coalition with the Finns and the Christian Democrats. The Centre Party, which got humiliated in the election refused to partake in any governments.
    SDP was ready to work with the NCP but was not willing to cut as much as the NCP wanted. Finns Party was ready to do all the cuts Orpo wanted, with their only wants being that immigration is restricted and that climate change goals are abandoned. Orpo decided to form a coalition with the Finns, alongside the Christian Democrats. Because the Centre Party refused to come along, they had to convince the Swedes to join them. This was hard because the Swedish Party and the Finns Party are radically different, with Swedes wanting to uphold the status of the Swedish language and the Finns Party wanting to abolish it. On top of that many Finns Party MP's had made derogatory comments about the other party and it's members, especially towards Eva Biaudet. She was the only Swedish MP to oppose the government, however their leader Anna-Maja Henriksson is right of her party and dragged the party into government.
    Not only did the government take a record time in forming the government (last time it was this long was decades ago), it seems to be setting a record for the fastest time for a government collapse. The Finns Party got 7 of the 19 ministers in the coalition, and they named white supremacists and neo-fascists for the job, as well as the speaker of parliament. Junnila stepped down, and the Finns replaced him with Wille Rydman, a former NCP mp who got kicked out of the party for sexually harassing under-aged girls. Meanwhile the leader of the Christian Democrats and minister Sari Essayah publicly stated that government should not partake in Pride "ideology". Most Finns are absolutely embarassed by this "government" and it is very likely to collapse. It is filled to the brim with fascists, racists, rapists, anti-abortionists, homophobes, evolution deniers, criminals... Not only that, the government also wants to remove support for poor people, students, children, the unemployed, and doesn't believe in climate change.

    • @Nevergiveup-z1g
      @Nevergiveup-z1g Рік тому +3

      Bruh then how did they got that many seats

    • @Merdalos
      @Merdalos Рік тому +8

      Source: Hesari ja SDP:n puolueohjelma

    • @septentrionalisimperator8799
      @septentrionalisimperator8799 Рік тому

      @@Nevergiveup-z1g Because this government is still supported

    • @Decus86
      @Decus86 Рік тому

      ​​​@@Nevergiveup-z1gcause voters are dumb. NCP for example gets votes from poor people who are convinced that voting for NCP makes them wealthy. People voting against their own interests is nothing new.
      And of course people's political memory is short. People forget that increased national debt was caused by covid and the invasion of Ukraine. Right in fact supported all measures that the SDP government took to deal with the both crisis during their term. But at elections no one remembers that so the right just campaigned on increased national debt.
      Another thing to mention is that NCP has been in almost all governments during the past few decades. Including purely right wing ones. And yet somehow the debt didn't go down.

    • @m.s.8927
      @m.s.8927 Рік тому

      Oh yes, all the badges people like you give to other people because they do not like their opinion. Please increase it so it drives even more people towards us.

  • @FalconsEye58094
    @FalconsEye58094 Рік тому +10

    A crisis in Finland?! Thats something you don’t hear everyday

    • @Merdalos
      @Merdalos Рік тому

      We have a new crisis every week caused by the media, we have to get used to it. Cant even hold old values anymore.

    • @Gti78007
      @Gti78007 Рік тому

      No crisis. Only left wing and press has some antipathy, probably because left has been controlling news agenda.
      Left wing cry is just hilarious 😂 and it is a prove that political movement is moving correct way!
      More social benefit cuts is needed! It is not a government job to take care of adult people…
      There are no Nazis even left that has announced (some stupidity maybe), only realist people are trying to fix that disaster economy.

    • @pekkanumminen81
      @pekkanumminen81 Рік тому +6

      Crisis is overstatement. We will manage just fine.

    • @nietzscheankant6984
      @nietzscheankant6984 Рік тому

      @@pekkanumminen81 And you're understating the situation.
      The government might limp on for a while, but there is most certainly a good chance this government will crash and fall apart before the next elections.

    • @pahis1248
      @pahis1248 Рік тому

      indeed this is big crisis and so stupid and shameful. That we ever let this happen. imho.

  • @MikeyTK96
    @MikeyTK96 Рік тому +3

    As Finn, it has some how interesting see and listen these Finland politics videos and find some detail mistakes etc.

    • @Merdalos
      @Merdalos Рік тому +1

      It is understandable since it is hard to get different sources in english or the translating can be bit problematic sometimes, so there is mistakes.

  • @FinnDerg
    @FinnDerg Рік тому +159

    As a Finnish person, I certainly hope this government fails or at the very least becomes impotent. The plans they have are horrendous to think about, and the values their leaders hold are, well, not pleasant. And that's without even considering the massive middle fingers they plan to give to average workers. We already have some major issues with brain drain, making peoples' lives worse is only going to intensify that.

    • @jakalordarkblood4331
      @jakalordarkblood4331 Рік тому +33

      So this, I can't believe people keep voting for them

    • @danieltissari4230
      @danieltissari4230 Рік тому +26

      @@jakalordarkblood4331 probably because the other option is debt and economic failure

    • @jakalordarkblood4331
      @jakalordarkblood4331 Рік тому

      @@danieltissari4230 Lmao, because conservatives have done so well historically. Oh wait, they're the reason the economy is fucked right now.

    • @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031
      @ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 Рік тому

      I'm not European and I'm glad that there are responsible citizens in Scandinavia who don't want to see their countries taken over by neo-Nazis.
      A few years ago people looked to Scandinavia as a role model, but everything seems to be collapsing into fanatical populists and followers of Varg Virkness.

    • @MidWitPride
      @MidWitPride Рік тому +2

      Increasing taxes for the higher income bracket further like the opposition wants for sure doesn't solve the brain drain issue. Finland already is one of the least attractive places for highly skilled workers to move into in Europe.

  • @Lucaemar
    @Lucaemar Рік тому +31

    Small clarification from a Finn:
    First there was Junnilas far right rhetoric stuff, the vote of no confidence was called because of it. In the vote, the right wing "Christians party" voted for him, and he survived it barely.
    The day after, his abortion comments came under scrutiny, the "Christians" turned on him (they don't mind working with a Nazi, but being pro abortion is a step too far), and that's when he had to resign.

    • @patrickuotinen
      @patrickuotinen Рік тому +11

      At the same time it emerged, that he had "improved" his credentials, claiming that he had done studies and owned a startup in Poland, both of which claims seemed to be untrue. This of course raised the question what else he has lied?

    • @sanher20
      @sanher20 Рік тому

      They fought a war alongside the Nazis. What else would you expect from them? I've never been so disappointed at something in a long time. I'm a student of history and I've been living in Finland for 4 years but I never thought Finns liked Nazis so much. It looks like they didn't ally themselves to the Nazis only because they were the only ally available

  • @mikemeal
    @mikemeal Рік тому +2

    At 0:35 and 6:19 the lower arrow pointed at Riikka Purra, the financial minister and leader of the Finns Party, not at Mari Rantanen, the interior minister. Just a small correction.

  • @myfaceismyshield5963
    @myfaceismyshield5963 Рік тому +8

    All of the parties on the current government are right-wing. The swedish party might be the most left-leaning party of those parties in power in terms of social ideals, but they're still economically on the right. That's why they were chosen for the coalition in the first place

    • @mustanaamiotto3812
      @mustanaamiotto3812 Рік тому +1

      Swedes party would agree with SKP, if they guaranteed special rights for swedish speakers.

  • @margaretalaine3581
    @margaretalaine3581 Рік тому +3

    Why Is Finland So Much in Dept ?
    High Taxes?
    How Many is FOREIGNERS?
    LIVING ON KELA?
    How Much Is Daily LIVING Costs!?

    • @kiq654
      @kiq654 Рік тому

      Finland has cupercells and nokia to pay for kela. Now we dont have economic giants pushing euros into finland. We are overspending like there is no day on saturday and hoping for next KONE. Might not happend as racists are intellectually inferior in international relationships with customers and barely can scrap culture of their own and why they might be seen inferior by equal morons on negotiation tables. Not all fins are degenerates btw. But way too many compared to few years ago.

    • @cinderellaandstepsisters
      @cinderellaandstepsisters Рік тому

      Watch the statistics in the video "Most debt countries.". Finland is not even mentioned.

  • @Itsunobaka
    @Itsunobaka Рік тому +5

    it seems like a plurality of finns are against fiscal austerity. i wonder if that alone is cause for concern about the coalition's stability

  • @Psykoosi92
    @Psykoosi92 Рік тому +6

    It's just a twitter-war. Calm down.

  • @maxsteel32
    @maxsteel32 Рік тому +6

    Could you compare the rightwing and left wing in Finland vs the right and keft in the US.

    • @edonveil9887
      @edonveil9887 Рік тому +3

      No.

    • @yuki-sakurakawa
      @yuki-sakurakawa Рік тому

      When did the Americans have a viable left wing party? The democrats (outside of bernie and a few others) would be called Conservatives in the rest of the world.

  • @Nikakobra
    @Nikakobra Рік тому +2

    At 6:21 the arrow is not pointing towards Mari Rantanen... That's Riikka Purra.

  • @apilolomi
    @apilolomi Рік тому +4

    Finland mentioned!

  • @jackerty
    @jackerty Рік тому +1

    6:19 that is not Mari Rantanen. She is at the back next to Junnila. At the Front is current head of the Finns Party Riikka Purra.

  • @ToneyCrimson
    @ToneyCrimson Рік тому +17

    Why does it seem like they are shocked that the trash party is trash?

  • @daanmollema6366
    @daanmollema6366 Рік тому +2

    "The formation lasted 74 days"
    Netherlands and Belgium:
    "Rookie numbers"

  • @DGoldy303
    @DGoldy303 Рік тому +6

    3:42 Look, I hate the far right but the guy is not wrong here.

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Рік тому +4

      And also think that it was taken out of context for max impact. Halla-Aho is a pretty.. um.. harsh person, but the guy is clearly very smart.

    • @osheridan
      @osheridan Рік тому +1

      No? Very strict islamic rules get creepy fast but calling someone a p*dophile because they're different to you... hmm, sounds familiar

  • @foxyboiiyt3332
    @foxyboiiyt3332 Рік тому +2

    Am I the only one that's finds it wierd that a party called the Swedish peoples party gets into government in Finland?

  • @godlaydying
    @godlaydying Рік тому +38

    Isn't this a bit like entering into a coalition with the Clown Party, and then acting shocked when it turns out that some of them have red noses and big shoes?

    • @SirCutRy
      @SirCutRy Рік тому +9

      Exactly so. Every party within the government has lost credibility. The Swedes party gained some back by voting against the confidence for Junnila.

  • @LahtariFIN
    @LahtariFIN Рік тому +68

    Finn here. It would be more accurate if you would refer to the True Finns party as populists. Talking about them as the right-wing party is not incorrect in itself, but this is a coalition between four right wing parties which can make this a little bit confusing. They are all of the on the right (although some more than others) but the True Finns party is the only one who is populist in the traditional sense how the word is normally used.
    Fun fact, did you know that Jussi Halla.-Aho's predecessor as the chairman of the True Finns Party, Timo Soini, was a Master of Political Science and that he wrote his master's thesis about populism in 1988 :D

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Рік тому +14

      "wrote his master's thesis on populism" 💀Damn he's been waiting for this moment for 35 years.

    • @Gekkibi
      @Gekkibi Рік тому +22

      ​@abitmorerational Is everything on the right side of Stalin far-right..? PS is located pretty center on the left-right axis on the political compass. On the liberal-conservative axis they're on par with KD. But sure, ya, it's so much easier (and intellectually dishonest) to just call them far-right...

    • @miqueldiaz3042
      @miqueldiaz3042 Рік тому +21

      Well, the party’s name reflects its populism. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Perussuomalaiset can better be translated as base/basic Finns, and they tend to do better in areas with lower education/ income and, oddly enough, less immigration (here in Helsinki, where around 10% of the population don’t speak Finnish or Swedish as their mother tongue, they weren’t even top 3), something in line with populist parties in Europe.
      They are populist, in the same far-right type as AfD in Germany or Vox in Spain, and they are racist AF. They offer simple solutions to complex problems, and they actually flip flop when they say they need carers from abroad (Purra mentioned during the campaign specifically Southern Europe, famous for its linguistic abilities), yet they want to make immigrants lives as miserable as possible (see Government Programme, 206 et ss.).
      They are a far-right, xenophobic populist party.
      PS: no comments about the new Minister, Rydman, a pearl himself?

    • @littleponygirl666
      @littleponygirl666 Рік тому

      @@abitmorerational And I'd call that a childs take on politics. "Everyone whose politics I don't like is literally racist fascist nazi hitler".

    • @soulsborne7765
      @soulsborne7765 Рік тому

      ​@@Gekkibithe party with neo-nazis who propagate the great replacement is clearly far-right

  • @LarryJL
    @LarryJL Рік тому +28

    A crazy update on what happened pretty much when this video was uploaded:
    Edit: Adding an even crazier 2nd update below. I'm embarrassed to be Finnish for the first time ever. Gladly 80% of the population voted for other parties. This is awful.
    ------ 1st update -----
    The "Finn's Party" designated Wille Rydman as the replacement for the resigned minister.
    Who is Wille Rydman? The police interviewed 9 girls/women about Rydman's conduct. No criminality could be proven, but he was exposed as a groomer of teenagers. Criminal chargers were dropped as the rape accusations could not be proven and the age of consent is 16. But it was proven and partially admitted that he was in the habit of "hanging around" with 16-year-olds and would wait for 14-15-year-olds to turn 16 and that he used his political status to manipulate teenagers. This isn't criminal, but it is clear that he is morally extremely flawed and should not be a minister.
    Rydman was formerly in the Coalition party, but he was "forced to resign" a year ago when the scandal came to light. The Finn's Party took him in. A lot of his targets were young girls active in the Coalition party.
    The leader of the Finn's Party Riikka Purra did this as a fuck you to Petteri Orpo. She didn't even disclose it to him before making the decission even though the previous day they had agreed on more transparency. It appears that they want to have the government fail so they can avoid getting blamed for making unavoidable budget cuts. The Finn's Party runs into the inavoidable problem that populists have: When you lie to your voters, everything goes to shit the second you are the one responsible for the changes.
    ------ 2nd update ------
    The leader of the Finn's Party, Riikka Purra, has apparently posted some really racist and awful stuff on the internet in 2008 under her first name. She explained parts of her life in a way that she could be connected to the nickname conclusively.
    She for example talked about fantasising shooting foreigners etc.
    Just when we think it's over it keeps getting worse every time. .

  • @aarothewanderer5549
    @aarothewanderer5549 Рік тому +43

    As a finn i can say that Finland policy has going fucked up in couple of weeks. And true finns party and some national coalition party members are attacking on against the free press.

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Рік тому

      Why would they do that when they would benefit the most from that? Or do you mean something else, like concerning corporate owned press for example?

    • @bloodwargaming3662
      @bloodwargaming3662 Рік тому +10

      Electing far right people and seeing basic human rights getting snatched away. How suprising 🙀

    • @RabbitShirak
      @RabbitShirak Рік тому +4

      @@pebblepod30Finns party complains that certain journalists have brought up neonatsi-connections, that some (not all) party members have.

    • @wwanimator
      @wwanimator Рік тому

      @@pebblepod30how do they benefit from free press, when it gets them into so much controversy by showing what they are doing? All alt righters want to censor the press because they know they won’t survive in politics if all the stupid, embarrassing and disgusting things they do make it into the news

    • @juhomattimannisto6575
      @juhomattimannisto6575 Рік тому +7

      All this talk about 'attack on the free press', 'far right' and 'human rights' are just standard propaganda talking points against populist right parties.

  • @cdcdrr
    @cdcdrr Рік тому +42

    Oh no, it turned out the extreme right party supports some pretty extreme ideas. Who could have guessed?

    • @artoriastheabysswalker
      @artoriastheabysswalker Рік тому

      Additionally: Oh no, integrating the far right party into a larger conservative government to control them also didn't work! It's not as if we had historical precedents for this not working (cough Germany 1933 cough).
      On an even more serious note though. This is the exact slippery slope that leads to fascism. Other countries in Europe already fell to fascism again, see Italy (yes the Frateli d'Italia are fascist, they are a continuation of Mussolinis PNF/PFF through the MSI and major figures have made clear fascist remarks)

    • @MRtapio5
      @MRtapio5 Рік тому +1

      "extreme" 🙄

    • @artoriastheabysswalker
      @artoriastheabysswalker Рік тому

      @@MRtapio5 How are advocating rape of your political opponents, population control just for those they deem lesser (i.e. subhuman) and straight up conspiracy theories not extreme?

    • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
      @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Рік тому +1

      _"the ex treme rig ht par ty "_
      There is no such thing in Finla nd. Anarcho-Capital ism is not a thing here unfortunately.

    • @cdcdrr
      @cdcdrr Рік тому

      ​@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. It's racist nationalism that's the extreme right, not AnCaps. They are far more devoted to right wing conservative and authoritarian ideology than anarchists could ever be.

  • @Vellupellu
    @Vellupellu Рік тому +1

    Small correction, you were pointing at Riikka Purra and not Mari Rantanen.

  • @dfgdfsg-ffdgfgdfdg8845
    @dfgdfsg-ffdgfgdfdg8845 Рік тому +16

    This video makes the Finn's party sound much more radical than it is. The party opposes immigration, but it is not even remotely close to fascism, its a conservative party, that could be compared to many similar parties in eastern Europe. This crisis was created by the left parties, that do not like to accept the results of the last parliamentary election. The right wing parties got a clear victory in the election, and the left wing parties have boosted these "bad news" of our government in international media. They have used leftist experts and researchers, who like to judge especially the Finns party for every single thing. The leftist parties in Finland are the majority reason for our bad policies about Russia in the past. Many of the top politicians especially in the Social Democratic Party have been so ridiculously naive about Russia in the past and they made us dependent on Russian energy. Especially SDP was always against NATO. The new government is much different and it has to fix the bad economic situation where the leftist government put our country in, in the last 4 years.

    • @OskarVanBruce
      @OskarVanBruce Рік тому

      Acts like a nazi, talks like a nazi, behaves like a nazi, smells like a nazi, hangs around with other nazis.
      But nope, not nazi.

    • @sampohonkala4195
      @sampohonkala4195 Рік тому +2

      In reality, Finland was not in the least dependent on Russian energy, until under the conservative government Uniper was bought to supply Russian gas to Germany. Moreover the Finns party as a party is not fascist or neo-nazi, but the fascist and neo-nazis of Finland are connected with the party and support it. The party is a somewhat decent shopfront, but back of house they already design gas chambers, if you know what I mean.

    • @littleponygirl666
      @littleponygirl666 Рік тому

      @@sampohonkala4195 Some neo-nazis support them because it's the closest they got in mainstream politics. Just like some communists support The Left Alliance but for some reason nobody cares about that despite the fact that history of communism isn't particularly rosy either.

    • @vmoses1979
      @vmoses1979 Рік тому

      Yeah sure - and the Nationalist Socialists were just a conservative party when elected in Fermany in 1933. I love the Finnish cope. Just face up to the fact that you've given substantial support to a xenophobic well right of center party that makes anti-immigration a central plank of its policy position. This in a country where 95% of people are native Finns or Swedish Finns. This is quite sick.

  • @pkz420
    @pkz420 Рік тому +7

    "Encouraging rape"??
    I get that his comment was ugly, but does TLDR News really feel the need to lie to make it worse?
    The comment is bad enough already. It does not need a biased "news" agency to lie and frame it as worse than it is. He did not "encourage rape" of anyone. He said that if is has to happen, it should happen to the people that invited it.
    Again, he does not want any rape, and never said that he did.
    Check your bias TLDR. you're acting very Fox-like.

    • @finnishyank7413
      @finnishyank7413 Рік тому +1

      He said that if is has to happen, it should happen to the people that invited it. ---> So victim blaming is better?

    • @pkz420
      @pkz420 Рік тому

      @@finnishyank7413 That comment does not place any blame on anyone.
      Did you even understand what you copied? Try reading a bit slower, if it helps your comprehension.
      It means the ones who suffer, should be the same ones that created the situation, and not innocents that had no choice.
      It's about the outcome, not the cause.
      Also, if someone invites an assault and then gets assaulted, they are not a victim, and they do share the blame.
      And even if none of that was true, and you actually had a reasonable point:
      Then if I had to choose who was better, a victim-blamer, or an accomplice to sexual assault, then yes, the victim-blamer is much better. Much much better.

  • @xamwright
    @xamwright Рік тому +4

    Oh no, they might beat our 44 day record!

  • @newera478
    @newera478 Рік тому

    6:20 Rantanen is actually in top row 3rd from left. You pointed arrow at Purra.

  • @leviathan4579
    @leviathan4579 Рік тому +3

    The great replacement is not a theory it happens right now when you look at the european demographic. If you like it or not its just the current situation of the low birth rates in Europe.

    • @firebird4909
      @firebird4909 Рік тому

      Yes, if current trends continue, by the year 2500 and yes that is five hundred years in the future, then the cumulative amount of other people groups will be more than native white people in Europe. My question is, who cares? That is 500 years.

    • @TheHouseAlwaysWins20
      @TheHouseAlwaysWins20 Рік тому

      That's demographic change. The great replacement theory is that jews are intentionally replacing whites

    • @leviathan4579
      @leviathan4579 Рік тому +1

      @@TheHouseAlwaysWins20 No the great replacement has nothing to do with jews XD. The number of jews in Europe goes also down because of the antisemitism and hate from muslims against jews, many jews flee to Israel or America. In big western citys european children are already a minority, when you look at Paris or London. When you take the metro at night you are a small minority when you are white, that doesnt feel right and it doesnt feel like your homeland. Thats realy sad and it happend in a very short time and with the population its also the culture that changes drastically.

  • @TheGhostOf2020
    @TheGhostOf2020 Рік тому +1

    That intro just went 0-100 real fast holy crap.

  • @uja2183
    @uja2183 Рік тому +11

    The new goverment will follow the finnish climate law that dictates the climate goals of Finland. So i think saying that the new goverment is relaxing enviroment targets is missleading.

    • @Tingletonttu
      @Tingletonttu Рік тому +2

      We'll see but the government program alone won't do enough for climate policies. There will be huge turmoils ahead.

    • @gavasiarobinssson5108
      @gavasiarobinssson5108 Рік тому

      tldr is globalist propaganda

  • @freddiemercury2075
    @freddiemercury2075 Рік тому +2

    Why is there a Swedish party in Finland ????
    Is like having a Blanket party during a Christmas party.

    • @jockumt7063
      @jockumt7063 Рік тому +3

      Roughly 5% of the population is Swedish-speaking, as Finland used to be a part of Sweden

    • @salted6422
      @salted6422 Рік тому +1

      They're wealthy and can afford participating in political games.

  • @rastignac30
    @rastignac30 Рік тому +6

    The KKK snowman was funny comoon.

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Рік тому +1

      Yeah, thought so too. Should make one this year :)

    • @avinashreji60
      @avinashreji60 Рік тому

      @@B1gLupukys

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Рік тому +1

      @@avinashreji60 Oh look, the first snowflake is already here!

    • @avinashreji60
      @avinashreji60 Рік тому

      @@B1gLupu says the one who “jokes” about terrorist groups

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Рік тому +1

      @@avinashreji60 Yes, you are supposed to joke about every group. Nobody is beyond making fun off. A KKK snowman makes fun off people who get upset about KKK snowmen. It's making fun of people who are humor illiterate.

  • @LarryJL
    @LarryJL Рік тому +2

    As a Finn it disgusts me that their English name is "Finn's party".
    It's not in Finnish. The rough translation is "The Average/Basic Finns".

    • @pahis1248
      @pahis1248 Рік тому

      or earlier "true Finns " :( in English

  • @Gardstyle35
    @Gardstyle35 Рік тому +5

    the replacement is an observable fact, not a theory.

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому

      So is the trans ideology, but if you say it isn't you piss off alot of leftists and they attack you.

  • @taqitahmid50
    @taqitahmid50 Рік тому

    In the picture it was incorrectly pointing to Riikka Purra in stead of Mari Rantanen.

  • @SincerelyFromStephen
    @SincerelyFromStephen Рік тому +18

    A far right party doing things that violate human rights?? What a shocker

    • @maxpower5452
      @maxpower5452 Рік тому +6

      What did they do that violated human rights?

    • @MRtapio5
      @MRtapio5 Рік тому +2

      Elaborate

    • @Historia.Magistra.Vitae.
      @Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Рік тому +3

      There is no 'f ar-rig ht' party in Fin  land at all.

    • @L_back
      @L_back Рік тому

      No example given? What a shocker

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk Рік тому +2

    5:54 wait so you genuinely had to find 10YEAR OLD post just so they would look bad?

  • @Emperor-Inker
    @Emperor-Inker Рік тому +1

    I think you need to speak about the Netherlands as well since their PM has just stepped down.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Рік тому +3

    the forthcoming Finnish presidential election will be interesting

  • @larethwink4450
    @larethwink4450 Рік тому +2

    What is "disturbing religious worship" conviction? Did he sacrificed living beings to satan after a long time spent with black metal albums or what? xD

  • @jaakkolamminpaa7959
    @jaakkolamminpaa7959 Рік тому +18

    I love how the Finnish names are butchered. Makes me feel better how I pronounce foreign names. And as a Finn I am not at all surprised this is happening. You get what you asked for. But in short, I think that votes trickling to the right are more due to pandemic and war in Ukraine. People are afraid and wish the situation to change, but do not realize that the government can do very little about it. They just wanted change but seeked help from populists.

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому +9

      What are you talking about? Ukraine was has nothing to do with this, the pandemic has even less to do with this. The Finns party supports Ukrainians and it's hardly even a political debate. The only thing that the Finns parry was against were the vaccine mandates and the law that forced caretakers to go to work even if they didn't want to. What a ridiculous take, no one even talks about these subjects anymore. The overwhelming reason that people voted for the Finns party is that they wanted to heavily restrict the immigration to this small country. Sweden is an example of a good and safe country becoming one of the unsafest countries in Europe because of immigration.

    • @S3Cs4uN8
      @S3Cs4uN8 Рік тому +5

      Which is pretty much just the usual '[insert crisis] is happening, blame the government and vote for the other side' thing that happens in so many democracies.

    • @jaakkolamminpaa7959
      @jaakkolamminpaa7959 Рік тому +4

      @@wtyuuh I have so many people complain about the restrictions, thus making it relevant. Some of the party members openly downplayed covid etc. However, what would be the alternative? I still consider the restrictions and mandates necessary of two evils. Yet it makes the government look bad because it was not seen as a positive thing.
      When it comes to war, people unhappy with the situation desire change. This is also somewhat seen in voting behaviour. I am not saying Finns party sided with Russians. Just stating that these reflect on polling even if they don't matter. It is about wanting change. What I am saying is that people are far less objective we want to believe.
      Somehow the Finns party even turned against Ukrainian immigrants after a while. Many of those changing (not already supporting) to vote for Finns party have little to do with immigration. Four most important issues in the election according to polls were (not in order): healthcare, NATO stance, budget / money, and climate crisis.

  • @NennysProkuktions
    @NennysProkuktions Рік тому +1

    Just a slight nitpick: 7:13 is not 49 %

  • @KhaalixD
    @KhaalixD Рік тому +2

    Great video!

  • @nemisisarcher8213
    @nemisisarcher8213 Рік тому +34

    I didnt hear about Finish Politics until the previous leader came into office. She left such a good impression I thought the finns had a really progressive goverment. Apparently I was really really mistaken

    • @B1gLupu
      @B1gLupu Рік тому

      Yeah, we have a functioning democracy. The last goverment (or the PM) was easy on the eyes, sure, but also reckless in it's spending, so now we give their opponents a shot. The leftist lost fair and square, and due to their own failures.😊

    • @Tingletonttu
      @Tingletonttu Рік тому +20

      She was the best prime minister in a long while, and most popular since polling started in 1990's. But in Finland it's just natural to expect the opposition parties to take over after elections.

    • @the.monologue
      @the.monologue Рік тому +8

      well, it was center left before. it's not now. finland is split id say quite 50/50 between progressives and conservatives.

    • @mennorach
      @mennorach Рік тому +13

      The pendulum swings back and forth. Sometimes we have good government, other times we try to survive the madness.

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому +14

      ​@@TingletonttuShe was a horrible prime minister that knew nothing about politics. She caused a 40% increase in the national debt(if i remember right), destroying the Finnish economy. Foreign aid was paid with DEBT, how ridiculous that is. They had no solutions to the issue of rising debt, not to mention that Finns are much poorer compared to any other Nordic nations.

  • @vikramchakraborty1024
    @vikramchakraborty1024 Рік тому +2

    This video was already outdated by the time of release considering they didn't mention the Rydman situation.

  • @Pvrge.
    @Pvrge. Рік тому +3

    Dang, the things in the beginning of the video were supposed to be bad things? They're based af

  • @sarrormiki3363
    @sarrormiki3363 Рік тому +52

    As a Finn I really hope and pray this government crumbles asap. I would legitimately prefer 4 years of doing nothing over regression

    • @danieldelaney1377
      @danieldelaney1377 Рік тому +7

      What is regressive about the true finns?

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому +8

      Then it'll come back as much bigger in the next 4 years as the problems that they wanted to fix and what people voted them for come back as much bigger.

    • @thomaswikstrand8397
      @thomaswikstrand8397 Рік тому +16

      ​@@danieldelaney1377literally everything. Like all right wing parties, it just gets progressively worse the further to the right you drift. Preserving power structures (and you're much closer to the bottom than the top, I assure you) is the only game they play.

    • @bluthian
      @bluthian Рік тому +4

      @@danieldelaney1377 By focusing on contemporary issues, long-standing issues receive less focus and standards erode. By focusing on immigration, issues in current public healthcare and pensioner care programs are almost sweeped under the rug. This government is deadly to those generations that built this country. This government does not have the answers that SDP had to long-standing issues, only because Finland, like all countries in the recent three years, has been in power during a period when national debt has increased.

    • @milantoth6246
      @milantoth6246 Рік тому

      @@thomaswikstrand8397”i assure you” is literally source: trust me bro. No you’re not. Leftists who talk about their countries like this are LITERALLY NO DIFFERENT to qanon and deep state delusional right wingers. Stop with the victim complex. You live a good life, appreciate it and work to make it even better.

  • @ZiemakAttack
    @ZiemakAttack Рік тому +4

    There’s always some sort of genocidal or violent rhetoric with these people

  • @valtteriaulio8401
    @valtteriaulio8401 Рік тому +2

    Halla-Aho master!

  • @franklinclinton4539
    @franklinclinton4539 Рік тому +8

    I really don't like to complain and i very much understand that Finnish is an incredibly difficult language for English speakers to pronounce, but i would hope that your team would at least make the effort to check on google translate how these names should be pronounced.
    Well at least you're not as bad as the French news organization that called the PS head of party Rick Purra, instead of Riikka Purra.

  • @kieranhosty
    @kieranhosty Рік тому

    I find it depressingly ironic how un-self-aware these knobs are when they accuse a person or people of violence, then suggest violence as a solution to an accusation.

  • @chippychipper2573
    @chippychipper2573 Рік тому +12

    As a Finn i can tell you Finland after Marin is desperately drowned on debt. There is no other coallition to try to make things straigh even if I wish there where,

    • @pekkanumminen81
      @pekkanumminen81 Рік тому

      As another Finn, I 100% agree. Leftist took a lot of new dept to burden our young people in future.

    • @einosalama
      @einosalama Рік тому

      Are we though? I think you've just bought into the propaganda. Our economy is doing great compared to other countries currently and especially during covid. Our debt is not even that bad compared to the rest of Europe. Are you sure we're drowning in debt? When none of our lives reflect that AT ALL.

  • @Mikko_Kivioja
    @Mikko_Kivioja Рік тому +2

    I'm more concerned our media than right wing parties. They are now leading, not our politicians. Ofcourse there has been stupid opinions and old writings, but nothing that bad, you have to make big scandal about it.

  • @mendamend
    @mendamend Рік тому +15

    The "Finns" party in Finnish is called "perussuomalaiset". A more accurate translation would be the "real Finns" party or "core Finns" party or their original English name "True Finns".

    • @johtajakansio
      @johtajakansio Рік тому +13

      Calling them The Finns hijacks the identity of all Finns.

    • @mini_bunney
      @mini_bunney Рік тому +7

      I still like calling them Basic Finns lmao

    • @jaakkomantyjarvi7515
      @jaakkomantyjarvi7515 Рік тому +2

      Excellent point, except it's not a translation: "Finns Party" is the party's official name in English, like it or not, so what can one do?

    • @johtajakansio
      @johtajakansio Рік тому +4

      @@jaakkomantyjarvi7515 Except they don't have an official English name, only a preferred one

    • @mendamend
      @mendamend Рік тому

      @jaakkomantyjarvi7515 it's a strange situation as their official party name in Swedish, Finland's other official national language, is "Sannfinländarna", and that translated into English is unequivocally translated as "True Finns" or "True Finlanders".

  • @zombiedodge1426
    @zombiedodge1426 Рік тому

    I think you're posting pics of Alexandra Daddario instead of Sanaa Marin.

  • @greenhighlander7
    @greenhighlander7 Рік тому +43

    That Finns party is typical right wing party, they are yapping like hell when in opposition, but when they come in power it clearly shows that yapping is all they are good for. PS. I'm from Finland.

    • @karankapoor2701
      @karankapoor2701 Рік тому +16

      But aren't they right about muslim immigration , just look at france and Sweden

    • @greenhighlander7
      @greenhighlander7 Рік тому +24

      @@karankapoor2701 No.

    • @stephenconway2468
      @stephenconway2468 Рік тому +5

      @@greenhighlander7 You are from Finland alright! One word answer...very normal for a Finn.

    • @The_Midnight_Bear
      @The_Midnight_Bear Рік тому +4

      ​@@karankapoor2701And as a climate activist, we are also right about emmissions.
      Doesnt mean a lot of us would become climate Zelensky, if you made us president.
      But whoever is in charge should still listen to us on this specific point.

    • @osheridan
      @osheridan Рік тому +15

      ​@@karankapoor2701oh no not the scary muslims here just trying to live their lives 😰

  • @damongraham1398
    @damongraham1398 Рік тому +2

    Has anyone from a different heritage of Finland or Sweden been elected to a public office position?

    • @damongraham1398
      @damongraham1398 Рік тому

      I think I need to clarify a few things. Please understand I am ignorant of Finnish and Swedish politics. Has a non European descendant of immigrants held a public office?

    • @damongraham1398
      @damongraham1398 Рік тому

      ​@@Murehissani_Murajan1323 MP Razmyar is the information I was looking for. Yes Police, Border guards, and the others are public servants. Elected officials are chosen by a larger group then other public servants. Have their been others like MP Razmyar in Sweden? How about people of color?

    • @damongraham1398
      @damongraham1398 Рік тому

      @@Murehissani_Murajan1323 nice. Proof that Sweden proves to be welcoming. I'm guessing Sweden isn't prefect at least they are trying.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything Рік тому

      @@damongraham1398 Yes. There was one black gay dude, then there was Iraqi man named Al Tae (he was an absolute disaster). He didn't get re elected.
      Sweden should be welcoming and demand more from their immigrants. They have turned parts of Sweden into shithole with more shootings than in Mexico. If that continues a peaceful nice Nordic country will turn into just another violent dump of an 🍌 republic.

  • @denmarkball7728
    @denmarkball7728 Рік тому +3

    Europeans aren't ready for true nordic humor

    • @pahis1248
      @pahis1248 Рік тому +1

      there is no humor here in Finland in this case. Horrible situation.

  • @kallekonttinen1738
    @kallekonttinen1738 Рік тому

    While showing Mari Rantanen you show wrong person. You point Riikka Purra not Mari Rantanen. This said this is very good foreign analysis of the situation.

  • @rockerjim8045
    @rockerjim8045 Рік тому +4

    The Swedish Peoples Party. “Coming over here and taking all our votes”

  • @diegokorhonen
    @diegokorhonen Рік тому +2

    I used to vote the finns party before it was split in 2017 then it switched too much to the right. It's not the same party anymore.

  • @seneca983
    @seneca983 Рік тому +7

    I think it's pertinent to add that there's at least one more scandal that wasn't mentioned in this video. The person chosen to replace Vilhelm Junnila as the economy minister is another MP named Wille Rydman. He used to be in the National Coalition Party but left due to pressure after he had been accused of grooming or harassing some underage girls/women. He later joined the (True) Finns Party. After he was named as Junnila's successor an ex-girlfriend of his who apparently has some kind of grudge released some his private messages where he's saying things that can easily prove controversial (such as "Us Nazis don't really these kinds of Jew things.").

    • @jkausti6737
      @jkausti6737 Рік тому +2

      Might be honest to include the fact that the accusations were looked into by the police and no evidence to support them was not found. Thus he wasn't charged with anything though things he was accused of doing would constitue a crime if true. He joined the True Finns only after it was clear that the accusation did their job and he was deemed a persona non grata in his previous Coalition partry.

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 Рік тому +1

      @@jkausti6737 My main point was the incriminating messages. I mainly mentioned the earlier accusations for the sake of completeness because it might still contribute to controversy in the eyes of some people.

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Рік тому +1

      ​@@seneca983Anyone can accuse anyone about anything.
      Proven false it shouldn't be an issue, but when it is brought up constantly, it's accused who becomes the real victim.

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 Рік тому +2

      @@jhutt8002 My main was the messages that the ex-girlfriend made public. I still wanted to mention the earlier accusations because they're something that can also add to the controversy in the eyes of some (whether they should or not).

    • @jhutt8002
      @jhutt8002 Рік тому

      @@seneca983 Ainfe you bring it up: Doesn't that imply that in your eyes it should?

  • @bradenkropp7956
    @bradenkropp7956 Рік тому +2

    Oh no not Finland
    Someone tell Norway heard they were close

  • @kyrius_gm4
    @kyrius_gm4 Рік тому +23

    This feels so much like the political situation in sweden withthe sweden democrats (far right party) becoming the second largest party and getting high influence over the politics. I’m so tired of all this nationalism! 😩

    • @randomuruk7230
      @randomuruk7230 Рік тому +6

      Nationalism is good

    • @dive_bomb3r
      @dive_bomb3r Рік тому

      As automation robs people of low skill jobs and moves all the money those generated into the hands of machine owners, this will only get worse, just so you know. Right wingers don't believe capitalism could have problems, so they will be looking for someone to blame for woes. And left is effectively completely useless.
      Prepare for all out racial war.

    • @wtyuuh
      @wtyuuh Рік тому

      When you have far-left wingers you also get far-right wingers

  • @lionardo
    @lionardo Рік тому +2

    why is everything always collapsing for TLDR?