the 30s @ close range seemed to have more pronounced mid highs for vocal clarity and the 20s up close were a bit muddy in that range . however as distance increased they seemed to find common ground in clarity in that vocal frequency. I would recommend 30s for close in club and smaller venues and in larger venues where distance is a factor, use 30s for downfill and 20s for longer range projection . But that's just me. If anyone else noticed this, please let me know. I do my own evaluations of gear but played in bands for years. Yes I am a drummer who owns PA but has to explain everything to his bandmates . I'm getting worn out. Thanks Folks for understanding.
shorter throw for sidewashes and downfills makes good sence. Long throw for some clarity is needed. Therefore , one is just as good as the other depending upon it's applicatiion HDL.30s downfills and sides and 20s for long throw. Hope I Have added some clarification. No Pun Intended. Thanks Folks. JUST MY SIDE.
Nice system you have, I’ve never worked with the RCF range myself and obviously listening on my head phones and the recording could never do the system justice but having the systems playing between two highly reflective metal truck body’s is not a good judge on a system , i can only imagine the comb filtering and anomalies caused .
In the Line Array area, you really can't find something better at this price point. 137db, 2x10 for mids and 1.4 hf driver +the rdnet compatibilty...Those things rock. 4 of these boxes per side + one SUB9006 per side and you can cover 2000+ people.
no kidding... i am down in ecuador and they put up these arrays at the drop of a hat...... at home i own some jblsrx800p's..... tthe 835 n 828sub......
The cluster is for how many arrays you have hanging per side. It basically takes out low mid and a few other subtle things to keep the cabinets sounding linear no matter how few or many you have. It doesn’t really change the HF range that should be done in Rdnet.
@@sweettreeproductions2149 yes. The analog one. The HDL 20A. That's my example. Because i got curious how to use that cluster. I mean. I still do the traditional one. I connect the HDL20A to driverack venue 360. The other HDL 20a are for high frequency and other HDL20A are for mid frequency. Is that okay not to use the cluster and high pass filter?? At 8 array per side? I will just configured the frequency type of HDL20A speaker. And not use the HFP and Cluster anymore? Is that okay for my setup?
@@sweettreeproductions2149 is he happier because of the weight for transportation, sound quality or other reasons? I will be honest, I've heard these at close range and they are awesome, but for long throw, they do not stand a chance with Electro Voice. Respectfully
Hello friend, I would like to know if those 2 db more than the hdl 30 with respect to the hdl 20 are noticed as I know is that the hdl 30a also has more power than the hdl 20 and I would like to know if they are really noticeable. My question is regarding its range and its sound pressure since I have not decided on one or the other yet. I would like to know which one sounds louder without displeasing. I would appreciate your answer.
After using both for a few years now. The HDL20’s out of the box sound better because of their tuning. The 30’s however when tuned through rdnet sound better and can get much louder while still sounding excellent.
Thanks for the info on these btw! When you fly them with motors or manual hoists, do you do single, or double points? What number on the array frame do you use?
Hi, one question I am thinking on buying an RCF. What do you recommend me to buy? 2- HDL10a OR 2-HDL26a or just buy 1- HDL30. I will be using it for my dj setup .Thank you so much.
Dj Rizama if you will have a sub the HDL6’s or 10’s would be a great choice unless you think you will utilize Rdnet. Let us k ow if you are I. The US and we can get you great prices.
Sweet Tree Productions thank you, I will use A subwoofer too. I was thinking 2 hdla27a per side with 2 FCF SUB 8006-AS. Total 4 speakers and two of those subs. Or what kind of subs do you think would be better? Thank you 🙏
Dj Rizama the 8006’s are great! That should be a killer system. Whenever you can 3 a side of the 6’s or 26’s would be preferred since they are only 10 degree cabinets.
Andrew Oo Leong Wei that is a great question. The only part that would be significantly different would be the back bar on the 30's. We are using some of our HDL20 carts for the 30's
hmm... is that possible that you guys hang up hdl-18as to hdl30 fly bar & shoot a video post in youtube? because what i see from the video you post in youtube the hdl-30 fly bar is slightly smaller than hdl-20 fly bar
cheng xiang alen wibawa It is a live recording we did of a group called the Wildwood Ruminators covering a song called Today I startled loving you again.
Audio Rental Queens NYC send us an email to info@sweettreeproductions.com or give us a call today at 2562754734 between 9-5 central time. There is an incredible deal we can do today only.
Sweet Tree Productions can you email me at "tesfadennis24@gmail.com", the next few days are full of audio gigs and won't really permit me with a lot if time for any decent phones calls.
centerstage entertainment we believe so. They definitely have more horsepower. We personally like the sound quality better compared to the HDL20’s. You are able to so much more while using RDNet with these boxes to help out with aiming and keeping the speakers from being harsh.
yes i have notice with the HDL 20S. they can get harsh. but I've been able too tame them some what, question would you use a drive rack with HDL 2Os and if so whats the benefit, I'm mean can i get more out of the box with a drive rack?
entertainment I am also interested in if using a driverack has any advantages? I have 8 hdl20 that I'm about to use and I was wondering if you have any driverack settings for these?
Djmarquez Nicasio hola amigo yo estoy vendiendo audio RCF nuevo ay por si te interesa a buen precio es una oportunidad tengo whssapp te puedo dar informes o a quien le interese saludos
Can you really tell the difference between a well Eq’d HDL20 and well tuned HDL30s? Or both systems are awesome because they’re both all original RCF Italian driver goodness? ❤😂 Just timing of the purchase and model preference at this point? Cant beat that all original RCF sound, there’s no bad sounding RCF box if you think about it? 😅 Retail prices Dual 10” goodness HDL30 - $6000 HDL20 - 3200$
Kavaja Music we over 4 years in and over 1500 cabinets sold. Much happier than when we were a JBL house. The other two JBL houses we switched over are happier too. The Rdnet control, and their rigging are game changers.
I tend to agree that plastic cabnets in general sound like a plastic bottles, and I'm yet to hear an RCF cabinet nor a cabinet from anyone else that honestly breaks that pattern. These arrays are a good budget solution but are no substitue for a passive wooden cabinet.
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the 30s @ close range seemed to have more pronounced mid highs for vocal clarity and the 20s up close were a bit muddy in that range . however as distance increased they seemed to find common ground in clarity in that vocal frequency. I would recommend 30s for close in club and smaller venues and in larger venues where distance is a factor, use 30s for downfill and 20s for longer range projection . But that's just me. If anyone else noticed this, please let me know. I do my own evaluations of gear but played in bands for years. Yes I am a drummer who owns PA but has to explain everything to his bandmates . I'm getting worn out. Thanks Folks for understanding.
Ini baru yang nama nya sound.. rcf HDL 20.. ngga gagal dah buat acara event mah ini sound👍🎧
Wow- what a difference between the 20's and the 30's! The clarity is like night and day- if you have the money, the 30's are the way to go with.
I am surprised. The HDL 30-A really seems to sound good!
Cool RCF HDL - 30. Will be purchasing mine soon. Thanks 🙏
In India , no one is giving us proper quote for hdl30a , following them from last 1 month for quote ,
What to do now ?
I'm a proud owner of RCF equipment. I can't go back to anything of lesser quality.
shorter throw for sidewashes and downfills makes good sence. Long throw for some clarity is needed. Therefore , one is just as good as the other depending upon it's applicatiion HDL.30s downfills and sides and 20s for long throw. Hope I Have added some clarification. No Pun Intended. Thanks Folks. JUST MY SIDE.
We agree, they definitely both have their applications and are great speakers.
Great Video .. Could you make a comparison with HDL-28a and HDL-30? Do you know why HDL 28a is more expensive than HDL-30? Thanks
I hope someday you will have demo of RCF HDL50A?
Mr gm ua-cam.com/video/TzTUEBzgad0/v-deo.html&app=desktop
HDL 30 mid quwality good
Nice system you have, I’ve never worked with the RCF range myself and obviously listening on my head phones and the recording could never do the system justice but having the systems playing between two highly reflective metal truck body’s is not a good judge on a system , i can only imagine the comb filtering and anomalies caused .
For 3.500$, those boxes are amazing. Best price/quality ratio on the market. Good review guys , like always.
In the Line Array area, you really can't find something better at this price point. 137db, 2x10 for mids and 1.4 hf driver +the rdnet compatibilty...Those things rock. 4 of these boxes per side + one SUB9006 per side and you can cover 2000+ people.
no kidding... i am down in ecuador and they put up these arrays at the drop of a hat...... at home i own some jblsrx800p's..... tthe 835 n 828sub......
I'm ordering the Hdl 20 I need this song for sound check...who the Artist??
What song are you trying out with?
Wow the difference is like night and day. Very detailed highs in the HDL 30's
What is the purpose of cluster button? Is that for additional distance of sounds? I mean for long range. Highest cluster ratio??
The cluster is for how many arrays you have hanging per side. It basically takes out low mid and a few other subtle things to keep the cabinets sounding linear no matter how few or many you have. It doesn’t really change the HF range that should be done in Rdnet.
@@sweettreeproductions2149 so in easy word. I don't need to press it. Whether i used 8 arrays per side?
mr jn are you talking about the 20’s or 30’s?
@@sweettreeproductions2149 yes. The analog one. The HDL 20A. That's my example. Because i got curious how to use that cluster.
I mean. I still do the traditional one. I connect the HDL20A to driverack venue 360. The other HDL 20a are for high frequency and other HDL20A are for mid frequency. Is that okay not to use the cluster and high pass filter?? At 8 array per side? I will just configured the frequency type of HDL20A speaker. And not use the HFP and Cluster anymore? Is that okay for my setup?
I wonder if you still have a few hdl20 for sale, I’m looking to buy some boxes and frames
Sadly, we sold all of our used ones.
Does anyone know the distance fall off for the hdl30
Hello do you still have hdl 20 used??
would you compare these cabs to the Ev XLC-127? any comparisons
Fredy Romero a step up. We sold a person a ton of 30’s to replace his xlc rig and he is much happier.
@@sweettreeproductions2149 is he happier because of the weight for transportation, sound quality or other reasons? I will be honest, I've heard these at close range and they are awesome, but for long throw, they do not stand a chance with Electro Voice. Respectfully
Fredy Romero the weight, rdnet and rigging were a huge reason he switched over.
Can you please tell me the price of pair
Rcf hdl 20 8tops how much sir
Hello friend, I would like to know if those 2 db more than the hdl 30 with respect to the hdl 20 are noticed as I know is that the hdl 30a also has more power than the hdl 20 and I would like to know if they are really noticeable. My question is regarding its range and its sound pressure since I have not decided on one or the other yet. I would like to know which one sounds louder without displeasing. I would appreciate your answer.
After using both for a few years now. The HDL20’s out of the box sound better because of their tuning. The 30’s however when tuned through rdnet sound better and can get much louder while still sounding excellent.
@@sweettreeproductions2149 hi i have a question that mean the hdl20 with only 700 watts rms sound better than the hdl30 ?
Hey do you guys have any of 30s for sale? I'm looking to buy 16 to 24 tops. Please let me know thanks.
Sorry for the late reply. Not currently. We did sale a lot of them last year though.
send to Indonesia what the price of a box RCF HDL 20a
How many RCF HDL 20-A boxes can I daisy chain on a 20amp circuit?
Yes I would like to know too
what is this suspension stand?
Sumner Eventer 25
How much the weight different.
The 30’s are about 10 pounds less.
Anyone have any idea the list of authorized dealer in Thailand
Pricing on the used 20's?
Juan Ocampo sorry just seeing this shoot us an email at info@sweettreeproductions.com we still have a few left.
RCF is the best
zathara production i agreee
What size spansets/shackle do you use from the sumner to the flybar?
Omar Ortiz we use 3’ spansets double looped I believe the shackles are 1/2 inch
Thanks for the info on these btw! When you fly them with motors or manual hoists, do you do single, or double points? What number on the array frame do you use?
what song and singer backsong
alen wibawa It is a live recording we did of a group called the Wildwood Ruminators covering a song called Today I startled loving you again.
Hi, one question I am thinking on buying an RCF. What do you recommend me to buy? 2- HDL10a OR 2-HDL26a or just buy 1- HDL30. I will be using it for my dj setup .Thank you so much.
Dj Rizama if you will have a sub the HDL6’s or 10’s would be a great choice unless you think you will utilize Rdnet. Let us k ow if you are I. The US and we can get you great prices.
Sweet Tree Productions thank you, I will use A subwoofer too.
I was thinking 2 hdla27a per side with 2 FCF SUB 8006-AS.
Total 4 speakers and two of those subs.
Or what kind of subs do you think would be better?
Thank you 🙏
Dj Rizama the 8006’s are great! That should be a killer system. Whenever you can 3 a side of the 6’s or 26’s would be preferred since they are only 10 degree cabinets.
Sweet Tree Productions thank you very much for answering my questions.
When I am ready I will contact you
Dj Rizama thank you. We will definitely get you the best deal possible.
Le prix stp
RCF hdl 20 a espanol👌👍
Clearly the HDL 30-A is much better
Bagus
is hdl-18as compatible with the fly bar??
Andrew Oo Leong Wei that is a great question. The only part that would be significantly different would be the back bar on the 30's. We are using some of our HDL20 carts for the 30's
hmm... is that possible that you guys hang up hdl-18as to hdl30 fly bar & shoot a video post in youtube? because what i see from the video you post in youtube the hdl-30 fly bar is slightly smaller than hdl-20 fly bar
What is the name of the music in the video?
cheng xiang alen wibawa It is a live recording we did of a group called the Wildwood Ruminators covering a song called Today I startled loving you again.
Can you send this song to me? I like this song very much. thank you very much! My email: 42966830@qq.com
Iku regone piro tros lek arep tuku seng dihubungi sopo?....
Hdl 30 50juta susuk sewu nek ra salah
Hahahaha
30s are much better. They have much nicer treble. Bass is the same, but more defined on 30s. 20s have too much 2k-ish frequencies and low mids.
how much is the price for hdl30a
Audio Rental Queens NYC send us an email to info@sweettreeproductions.com or give us a call today at 2562754734 between 9-5 central time. There is an incredible deal we can do today only.
how can I connect you
Dj Fluffy info@sweettreeproductions.com
Ini baru sound jenang qkqkqk
Rcf best spekar
What are the price/box for the HDL30?
Give us a call at 2562754734 we aren't allowed to post yet.
Sweet Tree Productions can you email me at "tesfadennis24@gmail.com", the next few days are full of audio gigs and won't really permit me with a lot if time for any decent phones calls.
5:30 musik??
sound difference is slight, price difference is very large
The Rdnet and longer throw of the 30’s is definitely worth it.
what is that song?
sebastian escobar escobar it is a Merle Haggard song covered by the Wildwood Roominators
i love your videos, and i was wondering if could be possible that you send me the song?, my email is: pablost1460@gmail.com, thanks
I love your video, & i like it a song,, please send me song 🙏🙏🙏🙏 ryanriyon17@gmail.com
@@sweettreeproductions2149 whats is the name of the song?
is there a major difference in sound quality and or spl.
centerstage entertainment we believe so. They definitely have more horsepower. We personally like the sound quality better compared to the HDL20’s. You are able to so much more while using RDNet with these boxes to help out with aiming and keeping the speakers from being harsh.
yes i have notice with the HDL 20S. they can get harsh. but I've been able too tame them some what, question would you use a drive rack with HDL 2Os and if so whats the benefit, I'm mean can i get more out of the box with a drive rack?
entertainment I am also interested in if using a driverack has any advantages? I have 8 hdl20 that I'm about to use and I was wondering if you have any driverack settings for these?
RCF? is made in italy 🇮🇹 ?
They are.
The 30's midrange is far better. FIR
Me gustaría escuchar la RCF HDL 50 A
20 goes a little bit deeper in the low's....the 30 sound's more open....
Hdl30a is better than hdl20a but price difference is too much bet them .
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30 sure sound better
Precio$ por favor
Djmarquez Nicasio hola amigo yo estoy vendiendo audio RCF nuevo ay por si te interesa a buen precio es una oportunidad tengo whssapp te puedo dar informes o a quien le interese saludos
Can you really tell the difference between a well Eq’d HDL20 and well tuned HDL30s? Or both systems are awesome because they’re both all original RCF Italian driver goodness? ❤😂 Just timing of the purchase and model preference at this point? Cant beat that all original RCF sound, there’s no bad sounding RCF box if you think about it? 😅
Retail prices
Dual 10” goodness
HDL30 - $6000
HDL20 - 3200$
Great overview, keep on perfect job :)
Super...
Best piece in market
Very helpful. Thanks.
I like this System
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How Much
S.anand Kumar if you are in the USA shoot us an email and we will hook you up info@sweettreeproductions.com
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Backsound
Hdl 30 !!!
They are incredible.
Can you imagine in sri Lankan rupees each costs 1.1million 😢
Awesome stuff
30 a better
Beetween trucks???🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ricardo Domingues technically between truck and stages :)
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mamalon compadre
Compared to JBL vrx932 lap, they sound like plastic bottle
Kavaja Music good to know we sold 24 vrx932 and all of our vertec cabinets to switch to all RCF. Best decision we ever made!
Wait and u`ll see
Kavaja Music we over 4 years in and over 1500 cabinets sold. Much happier than when we were a JBL house. The other two JBL houses we switched over are happier too. The Rdnet control, and their rigging are game changers.
Well, to me, the vrx sound more brighter and louder. And what about FBT ?
I tend to agree that plastic cabnets in general sound like a plastic bottles, and I'm yet to hear an RCF cabinet nor a cabinet from anyone else that honestly breaks that pattern. These arrays are a good budget solution but are no substitue for a passive wooden cabinet.
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