Writing an Emotional Piece in 30 Minutes with Eric Whitacre Choir
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Oliver shows how he uses Eric Whitacre Choir to compose to a deadline. Listen to his final mix of his demo here:
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Other products used in this demo:
Eric Whitacre Choir: www.spitfireau...
Albion NEO: www.spitfireau...
Albion V Tundra: www.spitfireau...
OPW: www.spitfireau...
Albion ONE: www.spitfireau...
HZ Percussion: www.spitfireau...
Olafur Arnalds Composer Toolkit: www.spitfireau...
actually getting into the world where people regularly call you and go "hey mate, compose us a score in two hours" is far more challenging than the actual composing, I've found
That is certainly a reality.
How could you not want to compose with those three chords and that choir? Took all my willpower to continue watching the video and not just rush off to my keyboard and start my own track. So inspiring.
Amazing, great stuff Malcolm - I hope you are well and creating some cool stuff! Ox
Totally. Mr. Weder is fast becoming my favorite modern composer. I’ve never heard a piece from him that I didn’t like.
i know that feeling too
I have absolutely NO background in composition, so any help like this is very valuable.
Teach yourself basic music theory - UA-cam, book. Then create!
This audio company is gold for democratization of music composing. A kid at home who might never come across the possibility to express himself thru music just need a computer and a couple of hundred euros and he is set. May the genius come to light!
Found this really useful. Having those notes/rules written down before starting seems like a really good idea. Will give that a go! The final result was really impressive, great job Oliver!
thanks for the kind words, Ox
It is insane for me how the tech made easy to create amazing sounds and songs like this.
Inspiring to watch a workable piece come together that quickly, and helpful to understand the method and mindset.
Thanks David! Ox
Oliver!!!!!!!!! So good to see you here again!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you kindly!!!! How are things? Ox
So inspiring. Been using EastWest Choirs for years, but this sounds so good. Maybe its time for a change.
Also love what you say Oliver about letting a piece flow. Sometimes I feel like a piece almost writes itself but we have to let it. This opens up lots of philosophical thoughts about does a piece exist before we write it, does it have a life of it's own and can it guide us as to where it wants to go. I made a piece called "Just Passing Through" as that's how it sometimes feels for me, like a piece is passing through me. Hope at least some of that makes sense
This single video really inspired me to become a composer. Thanks for sparking the fire inside me. This video is just too too good.
haha this guy is laying his fingers on the keys and quasi-coming every chord change.... nice feeling!
thanks ever so much for watching and commenting! Ox
Oliver
Great work on the composition. Would love to see a workshop on Logic and your tips and tricks with working within Logic. Thank you
Thanks Oliver for this video... The combination of Eric Whitacre Choir with Albion Neo and Tundra is incredible and so expressive... Kind regards and many blessings, MaxT
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Wow! This has inspired me to write a score for something! ❤️
Awesome James! Hope your score turned out as you wished :D thanks for watching, Ox
Simplicity and beauty. Great job Oliver!
your studio is like a heaven
thank you so much - it's important that it is comfortable and organic. I think the lighting also makes it look quite nice ;) Anyway, thank you for commenting and watching, Ox
This is the best ASMR on youtube. Love you man !
thank you kindly, I hope you are well! Ox
My favourite thing is composing last minute for an advert and then they pick their best mate’s track they already had last week.
this is what i always want spitfire videos to be. thank you
You are an incredible help, and I always... always appreciate your work and your generosity.
outstanding video, love the wind sound in the Eric Whitacre instruments
Having no real formal music knowledge other than piano at 7 years old, watching this is enough for me to really make something wonderful.
I really enjoy all of your videos Oliver; inspiring and educational all wrapped up in one. Not sure how I missed this last year but glad I found it. Thank you!
Wow... This is so amazing and absolutly inspiring. Thanks for sharing this with us.
This is madness! Love it
Thank you Hesam!!! My best wishes, Ox
Great video Oliver thanks you so much. explains things very well and clear. It was sonly summer last year that I got interested in using vocal libraries with my soundscapes, brings a whole new texture and sound world. Love the Eric Whitacre library some lovely sounds. Take care, stay safe, best wishes Terry
Mighty nice sounds and layers! And I'm finally sold on this coir... Only took me 2 years to step up, lol! Many thanks!
Fabulous! Lovely work. Love it.
Absolutely enjoyed this video! Great job on this one
really enjoyed this video demo / instruction. well presented and lots of good advice - 4 points of guidance at top v useful. thanks very much for the inspiration
amazing studio
Great work Oliver, thanks...!
Simply Stunning!
Oliver does have the potential !!!!!!
This was amazing, nice work
Hello 👋 I’m curious about what model is the fader you were using. Thanks for lovely 💡
Oliver is super talented !!
Thank you for the nice words Moses, much appreciated! Ox
sounds like a farewell piece
thanks for whole great videos. but i wonder how you guys all can record the track with automation while you are playing in "read" mode ? ı can only do it in "touch" or "latch" mode.
He uses the pencil mode to draw automation. To do so, hold command and draw. Took me a while to figure out :0
@@mithileshsonawane1809 no i don't mean it. he can't use mouse while playing :D
I was crying for the whole tutorial.
24:08 'But it's got a saxophone in there' Wow! Did Christian know about this? He hates saxophones.
Oliver this got me excited about composing again. Especially with the these libraries. Thanks for the inspiration!
Thank you Stephen! Ox
This video is a treasure! Thanks.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Thank YOU :) Ox
Excellent video, you got a new sub!
Awesome thank you Priscilla! Ox
Magnifique !
A master piece!
wow, thank you sir! I hope you are well, Ox
Oliver, just Bravo Maestro
Thanks, much appreciated!!! Ox
what is the white box on the left hand side?
Korg nanoKONTROL 2
yep, nanokontrol2!
what is the device he uses to add automation ?????
Nanokontrol 2
he's hyper drawing attack
Awesome！
Love what you did, Oliver. But what is that midi controller (the white box) you keep moving with your left hand to create loudness and softness?
thank you Kenneth! Yes, it's a midi cc controller. So I control the dynamics with one fader (basically addressing the different dynamic layers in which we've recorded, so p, mp, mf, f, etc) and the expression, which is the instrument volume. I hope this helps. Thank you for watching and commenting, Ox
To answer your question .. its a Kong nanoKONTROL2 midi controller - they come in a black or white versions.
I closed my eyes and listened and I pictured at the beginning a lovely scene with a family gathering eating, dancing enyoying and at the middle of the song leaving somewhere and them coming back to find a bloody scene with almost all your family members dead allover the place and listen in the back of the house a voice of a little girl screaming help and then it end.
😂
I saw him alway used modulation's fader. How does it work?
@Joel Thomas Thank you so much !
Is this you actually writing to a deadline or just pretending? I'd love to hear the feedback from directors etc if it's real. like what will you do when they say get rid of the voices...
Exactly, if this was translated to piano only, there would be no 'music' there at all, just random chords.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@octoberphoenix You did understand the parameters of the exercise, right?
@@octoberphoenix Well... I don't know about your perception guys, but most music for media nowadays is "random chords" - ambientish, pad stuff beneath a picture, that's the trend I supose. Working with a timbre is as important now as with melody or harmony.
And from my experience, working with directors: when asked to "get rid of voices" - usually that would translate to changing aformentioned timber/sound, not harmonic structure or deleting whole MIDI information. Usually it just means changing a preset or VSTi :) Besides - who's making final tracks with just a piano?
And when a cue lacks melody/beat/overall compositional changes - director will simply ask for it. But he/she will rarely do so, as everybody wants very little distraction from the actors now. I don't like it, but hey - less work to do than.
Oliver did a decent job, would work perfectly in some Netflix or HBO series as a filler in some scene :)
Just pretending for this one Christopher - yeah good point, then I'd have to re-write with what the director wants! Thank you for watching, Ox
Woah
Oliver this may be a noob question but, how are you gauging your tempo without the click being audible? From mostly sopping wet Ireland! ☘️ ☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
a very good question, he actually has the clicker on, its just edited out of the video
Hey guys - sorry about this, I have actually had a click on, I just didn't route it into pro tools and so it wasn't recorded on the tutorial audio. So yes, I've had the metronome while recording and playing. Thank you for watching! Ox
The rythme is within you.
Click tracks are to be as close as perfect possible but no one is. But the nice thing is, especially in orchestral music, imperfection is perfection. Just have your computer play perfect tempo and you lost a great part of humanity.
@@felinephase Of course! I was wondering because I saw him set a tempo but then didn't hear it! It is great to use your internal rhythm but it is also good to stay relatively close to what intended as well! From once again windswept Ireland! ☘️ ☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
Amazing!! Thx:)
just brilliant !
With the vst and keyboard, how does it work for long notes > you just keep the key pressed down ??... do you need aftertouch ? or does any midi keyboard do this??...... sorry for my basic question, but just trying to learn about midi etc...
very good
"Emotional piece"
aka
"Generic ambient background noise"
That said, the choir sounds amazing!
just perfect oliver, makes me wanna look closely at the choir soundbank... it sounds mesmerizing. a quick question what kind of computer are you using for pulling that kind of sonic weight ? love your own soundbank, and the album as well =) great job !
LE MUSICIEN 2013 Mac Pro 64gb
@@karl.weaver wow these machines are super capable thanks !
Thank you very much for your kind words!! Yes, as Karl says. Let me know if I can help with anything else. Thanks for watching and commenting, hope you are well. Ox
What is your hardware? That fader looks cool.
Which one? I use a korg nanokontrol2 for my midi controller and a yamaha p60 is my midi keyboard. Anything else, please let me know. Best wishes, Ox
What is the controller you used in this video
KorgNano Kontrol ... I use it too and it works great for me. I also use it to control my DAW remotely as well when recording from a mic several feet from my pc. And it was only £40 :-)
i love thes
Where can we get the album? ;-)
Hey guys I need some assistance, I bought Fl signature today. I unlocked my account on FL by signing in. It’s does say my account is unlocked. However is seems as if my fl is still in demo mode. When I go to use a synth such as Sakura for example my audio for the plugin is still cutting out as it would in the demo version. Is there a step I missed or something I can do to fix this? Thanks
restart FL Studio
Are you not recording to click on first pass?
I am, sorry, I just forgot to route it into Pro Tools for the tutorial, but the metronome is actually playing. Ox
Oliver Patrice Weder ahh cool i thought there was a cool function that logic locks to your own tempo properly
MovieKid Techlife there is, kind of. It is called beat mapping. You can play in freely and then create a tempo map afterwards... Ox
Oliver Patrice Weder hey thanks for the response yeah I have tried that never seems to nap tempo correctly though to many glitches I’ve found ...have you found it to be more successful ?
@@moviekidtechlife I agree it's a little tricky here and there, but it works for what it is. Other DAWs might be better for that kind of stuff, DP for example. Ox
second is the best
Great video.
Very inspiring.
What are the two desk units? Midi controller? Coloured qwerty? Will that work with cubase?
Thank you for commenting - yes, midi keyboard (yamaha p60) and korg nanokontrol 2 for midi cc controlling. I hope you are well, Ox
Incredible!
Sounds great! What sort of full size keyboard do you use please?
Hi there Lina, I use a yamaha p60 - it's Christian's old midi keyboard. Ox
Thanks Oliver. I was wondering if it was a keyboard that had mod wheels to control your mid expressions etc etc but I know it doesnt because I have a Yamaha P120 : ) I guess you use your Korg Nano Kontrol for such things?
Linda Poulton yes, i use my Korg nanokontrol. Ox
Thanks Oliver
Oliver so helpful thank you. Could you tell us how to use the dynamic tool to draw in those lines when you are playing with 2 hands. Many thanks.
Hi Alistair.
At a time in the video, Oliver says ; "as I was playing with my two hands, now I'm drawing the automation" or something like that
@@jeranx1 Yes that is what I would like to find out how do I go about drawing in the automation ? Can someone explain how it is done ? Many thanks.
@@AlistairMelville use pencil tool
Hi Alistair - yes, so in Logic there is a function where you can draw in your automations, it's in the piano roll! I would love to be able to play with both hands and be able to control the dynamics. There's a french company which has invented a sort of 'ring' to wiggle and control vibrato. Should be a thing around your torso or so for when you move it controls the dynamics ;)
Please let me know if you can't find the dynamic control in the piano roll... Thanks for watching, Ox
@@OliverPatriceWeder Many thanks Oliver I did find it in the end :-) Yes I have exactly the same problem. I want to play with both hands as well. Will keep my eyes open for the new controller that allows hands free :-) The french company controller sounds very interesting. Many thanks again. Al
Very sweet composition but I feel slightly misleaded.
This is a keyboard music with human timbre ... not a choir music. If you consider voice by voice (sctb) maybe ... it gets better.
What software do u use ??
I usually use Logic Pro X for writing. Is this what you mean? Best wishes and thank you for watching/commenting, Ox
HI I wonder about your computer specifications
Hi, it's a Mac Pro, 2013 with 64GB Ram. Anything else, let me know. Thanks for watching and commenting, Ox
@@OliverPatriceWeder ^^; thank you
it sounds similar to halo theme song
Mais mec tu es français ?
No, from Switzerland :) Thanks for watching, Ox
Emotional? What music isn't emotional?
I composed a piece of music a couple days ago
I would be grateful if you guys would take the time to listen to it!
Hi Mathias. So give us a link
Yes please, we try to listen to as much as possible! Ox
The eyebrows movement synced with hands is very emotional 💁🏻♂️
Bonus: you can turn on auto quantize from the top left and start taking acting lessons
Haha, probably best comment on this vid! :) thanks for watching, Ox
Sometimes I play 1.25 or even 1.5
I'm sorry 😂😂
Uncomfortable monitor position, I'd say...
It looks like the worst of 80s Kitaro music. But in 2020