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    Superman III is a 1983 superhero film directed by Richard Lester from a screenplay by David Newman and Leslie Newman based on the DC Comics character Superman. It is the third installment in the Superman film series and a sequel to Superman II (1980). The film features a cast of Christopher Reeve, Richard Pryor, Jackie Cooper, Marc McClure, Annette O'Toole, Annie Ross, Pamela Stephenson, Robert Vaughn, and Margot Kidder.
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  • @ChannelAwesome
    @ChannelAwesome  Місяць тому +127

    Yikes....this movie is pretty bad. What are your thoughts on Superman 3?
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    • @air03man
      @air03man Місяць тому +11

      Super-Month continues in memory of Christopher Reeve/Richard Pryor & Margot Kidder

    • @Sharingan1230
      @Sharingan1230 Місяць тому +4

      after Supermonth is over, review:
      * Norbit (long awaited request)
      * The Benchwarmers (DO NOT REVIEW ITS SEQUEL)
      * The Spy Next Door (for Nostalgia-ween)
      * The New Guy
      * Without a Paddle (DO NOT REVIEW ITS SEQUEL)
      * A Night at the Roxbury
      * Planet 51
      * Big Momma’s House trilogy (as a all 3 in 1 full review)
      * Date Night
      * Megamind
      * Rush Hour trilogy (as a all 3 in 1 full review & the 4th movie is greenlit)
      * Bad Boys trilogy (as a all 3 in 1 full review & the 4th movie is coming this summer)
      * Gay Purr-ee
      * Hey Arnold the movie
      * The Wild Thornberrys Movie
      * Looney Tunes Back in Action

    • @mistercrawford18
      @mistercrawford18 Місяць тому +6

      You think this is bad? Just wait until you see Superman 4: The Quest for Peace.

    • @havdroid9769
      @havdroid9769 Місяць тому +6

      After the supermonth, please do the ,,G-force" movie review, because it is day 171! Please Doug, i'm a big fan!

    • @Sharingan1230
      @Sharingan1230 Місяць тому

      @@havdroid9769 if theres no episode for it until December: it will likely be a Disneycember review

  • @sydneylynskey7587
    @sydneylynskey7587 Місяць тому +59

    It will never not be baffling when a movie hires a Comedian and then refuses to allow said comedian to be funny

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Місяць тому +736

    Malcom's Richard Pryor impression is hilarious

    • @ryanmorejon5813
      @ryanmorejon5813 Місяць тому +19

      I completely agree with you

    • @Macapta
      @Macapta Місяць тому +40

      It’s….SHOCKINGLY good.

    • @user-dr2yz8um3d
      @user-dr2yz8um3d Місяць тому +15

      Better than the actual movie
      And that ski building clip was used in two previous NC videos
      Points for keeping it consistent

    • @jessehcreative
      @jessehcreative Місяць тому +9

      I want to see a skit with Pat Buttram Walter and Richard Pryor Malcom

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason Місяць тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yeah, I agree 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @alexandrefrauches132
    @alexandrefrauches132 Місяць тому +135

    Martha's death should have being a big subplot in the film rather than a event that happen off-screen. The whole film could have been about Superman dealing with this tragedy, feeling bad for not have spend more time with his mother. His reunion with Lana could give more depth to this, with Clark wondering how things could have been if he hadn't left Smallville.
    This is where the whole Clark Kent vs Superman could have play a role in it, with both representing Clark's way of dealing with this loss. Superman could represent Clark's anger while Clark Kent could represent his nostalgia and desire to go back to those old days, when he was just Clark Kent, a student, not a super hero with all responsability that prevent him from spending time with his loved ones.
    By the end of the battle, rather than Clark defeat Superman, it should end with both men open up about their emotional struggle and finally merging into one, representing Clark finding balance in his life.

    • @Herowebcomics
      @Herowebcomics Місяць тому +4

      That would have been nice too!

    • @martinhodges572
      @martinhodges572 Місяць тому +11

      BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DAILY PLANET'S JINGO BINGO

    • @tehSunBro
      @tehSunBro Місяць тому +9

      Problem with the way you described this is, that both of those halves are negatives. The idea that Clark would desire to just go back and throw away all the good he did is extremely selfish.
      If anything the "selfish" Superman should represent the desire to go back and undo it all just for his personal happiness, while Clark should try to remind him of all the good he created because of his personal sacrifices. This could even be made quite literal with Superman actually threatening to turn back the time, i mean he can allready do that in this version of the story, and undo all the good. Maybe give some glimpses of all the horrors that would create, with Lex and Zod.
      I totally agree about the conclusion you came up with.

  • @maximusjackassicus3042
    @maximusjackassicus3042 Місяць тому +96

    This is totally awesome, when you said the kid looks like he's waiting for Green lantern, that's when the video broke for an ad, and the ad was Ryan Reynolds for mint mobile.

  • @mr.barcode3186
    @mr.barcode3186 Місяць тому +314

    I love that LEGO Batman 2 got its recipe for fake Kryptonite from this movie. I think that's the biggest impact this film had on DC as a whole.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 Місяць тому +10

      Shame it didn't teach DC to not make boring Superman movies.

    • @autobotproductions1244
      @autobotproductions1244 Місяць тому +15

      @@naamadossantossilva4736 here's hoping James Gunn will give us a winner

    • @Vegeta241
      @Vegeta241 Місяць тому +6

      Wait hold on the Lego Batman Movie got a sequel? When did that happen?

    • @mr.barcode3186
      @mr.barcode3186 Місяць тому +8

      @@Vegeta241 no, it was a video game in the same vein as LEGO Star Wars that came out in 2012z

    • @autobotproductions1244
      @autobotproductions1244 Місяць тому +6

      @@Vegeta241 that's the video game LEGO Batman 2

  • @georgeeastwood6930
    @georgeeastwood6930 Місяць тому +126

    Fun fact: Ross Webster would surprisingly become the inspiration for Lex Luthor in the rebooted continuity of “Superman” comics. Luthor goes from being the used car salesman hiding underground to the “beloved” CEO of a well-respected tech conglomerate.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Місяць тому +4

      Did you read that somewhere?
      They had the idea of a corporate the time he got the warsuit. It's just that they gave it to vandal at the time. But it was going to be Lex. But instead he got the warsuit.

    • @speedbumpchump6388
      @speedbumpchump6388 Місяць тому +9

      If anyone is interested, John Byrn(?) modeld his version of Luthor on Donald Trump and other celebrity millionaire types, in his "Man of Steel" reboot for DC.

    • @georgeeastwood6930
      @georgeeastwood6930 Місяць тому +2

      @@DSan-kl2yc it was from “Minty Comedic Arts”.

  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 Місяць тому +314

    Malcolm does an incredible Richard Pryor impression. This movie did him so dirty and so many of the writing and editing choices are just baffling. You're right, the super computer should've been the man bad guy, not that Lex Luthor ripoff. Also, that "turned into a robot" scene really messed me up as a kid.

    • @watershipup7101
      @watershipup7101 Місяць тому +5

      Yeah, that scene was messed up.

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare Місяць тому +1

      The first time I saw this movie on television, I remember my cousin telling me how scary the sequence is, so I kept changing the channel and turning it back out of curiosity when the scene came. Didn't find it that disturbing. (Maybe because I was expecting it and my imagination had already built it up to be much worse than it was.)

    • @kormanproductions8943
      @kormanproductions8943 Місяць тому +3

      The robot scene was in my nightmares for years..

    • @bettrhalf8006
      @bettrhalf8006 Місяць тому +2

      I sincerely thought I was just an easily scared little kid when I talked about that scene scaring me, nobody else seems to remember it! Meanwhile I had a nightmare that my baby sister was turned into a robot. Oh, 80s, even 40 years later, the scars you left behind still remind me of your highly fucked up notion of children's entertainment!

    • @Lesley_RedRhody
      @Lesley_RedRhody Місяць тому +3

      @@dreamlandnightmare I was nine and my Brother was ten when the abomination known as Superman III premiered in 1983. Believe me, that scene was far more frightening on the big screen!!
      And even though, as Doug pointed out, that nightmarish transformation scene lasted mere minutes, the stop motion aspect of it must have been such a pain in the ass for actress Annie Ross who- I didn’t find out until much later- was a Jazz singer and also had quite an extensive film career.

  • @antfrancis9941
    @antfrancis9941 Місяць тому +41

    As a kid, that fight scene between Clark & evil superman at the scrapyard was LEGENDARY.

  • @OmnicidalClown1992
    @OmnicidalClown1992 Місяць тому +227

    This isn't the only time when Annette O'Toole was involved in a Superman production. She also played Martha Kent in the TV series Smallville.

    • @bl3343
      @bl3343 Місяць тому +23

      I'm surprised Doug didn't mention that.

    • @nathancruz9172
      @nathancruz9172 Місяць тому +5

      That’s right.

    • @douglasrau5094
      @douglasrau5094 Місяць тому +12

      She even reunited with Margot Kidder for a scene, Season 4, Episode 1.

    • @JasonICECarson
      @JasonICECarson Місяць тому +8

      @@bl3343 He did, watch the review of Superman the movie he did 2 weeks ago. He mentions it.

    • @lukewright9031
      @lukewright9031 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@bl3343I think he did in the previous video

  • @timothycarney9652
    @timothycarney9652 Місяць тому +21

    Fun fact- the tower of Pisa took CENTURIES to build (things like wars interupted the construction) and it started leaning basically right away, it actually is shaped in a subtle curve to counterbalance against the lean (angled stone etc) and the room for the bells (yeah it's a bell tower it is built in the plaza of miracles next to a church) was built to be level even with the lean- so superman "straightening it" would not only ruin a cultural monument in the obvious sense, not only making all the adjustments to accomidate the lean, but it will just fall over later.

    • @GingkoBalboa142
      @GingkoBalboa142 8 днів тому +1

      They kept building it even after it started leaning?

  • @kingsleycy3450
    @kingsleycy3450 Місяць тому +41

    The woman getting turned into a cyborg isn't the creepiest scene. Superman sleazing up Lana is

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Місяць тому +17

      Him sleezing up Lana feels like a scene ripped right out of The Boys

  • @nathanforester5993
    @nathanforester5993 Місяць тому +34

    Ah yes, Vera being assimilated is one of those iconic childhood trauma moments next to the libary ghost, Large Marge, Dan Aykroyd turning into a blue skinned demon (as well as the gremlin in the Nightmare at 20,000 Ft segment, the entirety of the 'It's A Good Life' segment but definitely Nancy Cartwright being trapped in a cartoon/the demon rabbit/the woman with no mouth), Michael Jackson turning into a werecat (and also the end of the video with his glowing eyes and the Vincent Price laugh), Amy Peterson from Fright Night with the razor sharp teeth (the image of her on the poster as an evil cloud onlooking on with her vampire face).

  • @PaulW_ftPAULK
    @PaulW_ftPAULK Місяць тому +136

    Metallo would've fit really well for this film, just an evil, superpowered cyborg gangster, that would've been easy to write for and design for this universe.

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 Місяць тому +7

      Metallo leading an army of robotized slaves would be cool

    • @darkman7009
      @darkman7009 Місяць тому +1

      @@naamadossantossilva4736 problem was that plan already been used by terminator skynet, hell even ultron mcu also do the same

    • @soenke-jz8qv
      @soenke-jz8qv Місяць тому +2

      @@darkman7009 both Terminator and the MCU weren't a thing when this movie came out though

    • @tylertilwick6852
      @tylertilwick6852 Місяць тому

      Or even a comic book accurate Bizaro Superman

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Місяць тому

      I think Bizzaro would be fine. Metallo is what we should see in Batman vs Superman!

  • @awesomeproductions7755
    @awesomeproductions7755 Місяць тому +169

    I *_SO_* hope we get a Fanscription version of if Richard Donner directed this film and Superman IV! Maybe Metallo, Brainiac or Bizarro could fill the villain roles for said versions? And hey, maybe if they make their own “Superman V”, that could be where they can bring in Doomsday and do The Death of Superman story right this time.

    • @JOSH-lw2jv
      @JOSH-lw2jv Місяць тому +7

      I'd love to see that.
      I did enjoyed the Fanscription
      of Tim Burton's *"BATMAN*
      *FOREVER"* and *"BATMAN & ROBIN".*

    • @heynae2016
      @heynae2016 Місяць тому +4

      I think in the script, Brainiac was supposed to be there based off that scene where the super computer possesses that Luthor lady

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Місяць тому +5

      @@heynae2016the original plans apparently involved Brainiac and Mr Mxysptlyk, I’ve heard Pryor was originally meant to play Mxy and honestly that’d be good casting

    • @heynae2016
      @heynae2016 Місяць тому +1

      @mrcritical6751 oh awesome! That would've been good since he's such a fast talker. I loved that guy in the animated series, he was a great foil.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Місяць тому +2

      @@heynae2016 agreed, plus it would have given him a chance to do drama, cause whilst Mxy is hilarious, he’s also outright terrifying in what he’s willing to do just to mess with people

  • @alejandroangel998
    @alejandroangel998 Місяць тому +43

    Love that Anette returned to the Superman universe in Smallville as Martha Kent. Also Christopher and Margot returned in Smallville; being Christopher’s last role before he passed away.

    • @clintbrew
      @clintbrew Місяць тому +6

      Also Terence stamp the actor who played Zod in superman 2 voiced jor-el in the fortress of solitude in smallville

    • @alejandroangel998
      @alejandroangel998 Місяць тому

      @@clintbrew true, thanks for the reminder

    • @masere
      @masere Місяць тому +1

      And wasn't Superman IV's John Cryer in Smallville too?

    • @clintbrew
      @clintbrew Місяць тому +2

      @@masere no he appeared in arrowverse Supergirl series as Lex but he does meet tom welling's clark in the crisis crossover, he did a pretty good job as lex but a bit jarring cus he played alan in 2 and a half men

    • @alejandroangel998
      @alejandroangel998 Місяць тому

      @@masere no, he played Lex in Supergirl

  • @linkdk59
    @linkdk59 Місяць тому +49

    It's time to mention the fan edit "Superman Redeemed" once again, which combines Superman 3 and 4 into one movie, and mainly keeps the best of both films

    • @INoahGuy1
      @INoahGuy1 Місяць тому +3

      What did they keep and what did they get rid of?

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Місяць тому +94

    Robert Vaughn, the villain of Superman 3, played Napoleon Solo in "The Man From U.N.C.L.E" show. Henry Cavill, Superman of the DCEU, would also play Napoleon Solo in the "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." movie.

    • @daimonatkins3046
      @daimonatkins3046 Місяць тому +9

      Funny how that sort of thing happens

    • @BarryHart-xo1oy
      @BarryHart-xo1oy Місяць тому +4

      That’s weird.

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Місяць тому +3

      Robert Vaughn was a villain in almost everything from the mid 70's and 80's! XD

    • @clintbrew
      @clintbrew Місяць тому

      ​@@Alondro77i seen him as a murderer in a couple of columbo episodes playing a different character

    • @afonsolucas2219
      @afonsolucas2219 Місяць тому

      @@Alondro77 Late 60s too. He’s in a lot of McQueen movies. He’s a good supporting player when he’s not a main guy

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +647

    Another Fun Fact: Christopher Reeve threatened not to return for this film, to protest Richard Donner's firing and because he hated the script. With the film already in pre-production, the producers scrambled to find an actor to play Superman. John Travolta was approached, but declined. Jeff Bridges and Kurt Russell were also considered, but they weren't interested. A few days before filming was set to begin, the Salkinds settled on Tony Danza as Clark Kent/Superman. Richard Lester was mortified with the casting of Danza, and pleaded for Reeve to return. Reeve eventually agreed, if he was allowed to change the script. The producers agreed. That's one popular rumor. Another is once Reeve found out Danza was lined up to replace him; he quickly got intimidated; having assumed the movie would be cancelled without his participation; and at that point Reeve relented.

    • @HashSlingingSlasher123
      @HashSlingingSlasher123 Місяць тому +20

      Copy and paste from IMDB, huh?

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Місяць тому +27

      Not true.. Never reported in any documentary I have ever seen and Reeve never discussed any of this in his book.. Pierre Spengler the films producer calls this rumor "Bullshit". Reeve had a contract that according to Spengler was re-negotiated for Superman 3..

    • @ANDCFC95
      @ANDCFC95 Місяць тому +7

      I wonder why Travolta, Bridges and Russell declined? It’s the role of a life time

    • @Jakeyisdead
      @Jakeyisdead Місяць тому +9

      I swear you got this from a Mr Sunday Movies video because he said exactly that almost word for word either that or Mr Sunday Movies read it from the same place you did and you both said it as written 😅😅

    • @Jakeyisdead
      @Jakeyisdead Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@ANDCFC95Probably because Reeves came back they just went with him and didn't follow through with the casting of the others

  • @aidanhever3369
    @aidanhever3369 Місяць тому +23

    FUN FACT: Mr. Mxyzptlk was supposed to be the main villain of this movie, where he sent both Superman and Supergirl to a fairy tale world, where the two Kryptonians are doing... well, like Batman and Batgirl in The Killing Joke. Yeah, no joke. It almost happened.

    • @Dim4323
      @Dim4323 Місяць тому +4

      And his name backwards
      Kltpzyxm

    • @MisterXenomorph
      @MisterXenomorph Місяць тому +4

      I can't necessarily tell if it would've been a good idea, but it would've been atleast absolutely insane

    • @aidanhever3369
      @aidanhever3369 Місяць тому

      @@MisterXenomorph Really ? How so ?

    • @ghariiscool
      @ghariiscool Місяць тому +1

      thank God they scrapped that...if they didn't, we would not have had this masterpiece *sarcasm*

    • @redmustard6354
      @redmustard6354 Місяць тому +2

      You know I’m now glad we got this, knowing it could have been worse

  • @jessedellross3245
    @jessedellross3245 Місяць тому +26

    So cool to see Annette o’toole in this franchise knowing she goes on to play Martha Kent in Smallville
    Also hilariously ironic she makes the comment about Clark’s mom given the role she would get

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa Місяць тому +3

      "Hey Clark, I heard you mom died? Well, I'll be your mommy."

  • @danielsrandomchannel1472
    @danielsrandomchannel1472 Місяць тому +67

    That was a great impression of Richard Pryor.

    • @ANDCFC95
      @ANDCFC95 Місяць тому +10

      And Pryor can be tough to imitate without sounding like a drunk Eddie Murphy.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Місяць тому +144

    It's a silly movie, but it was my first Superman movie. The Smallville plot was very nice, the Evil Superman/ Clark fight was cool, and Richard Pryer was funny at the time. The computer should've been Brainiac.

    • @sydhamelin1265
      @sydhamelin1265 Місяць тому +12

      And the 'turning into a robot' scene was genuinely terrifying. I saw it as a kid and yeah, it haunted me.

    • @greenwendal5056
      @greenwendal5056 Місяць тому +9

      It ain't as bad of a movie as people make out. The evil superman fighting in the scrap yard is one of my favourite scenes in all the movies.

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare Місяць тому +1

      @@greenwendal5056 It's definitely better than Superman IV. (Of course, that says more about the latter.)

    • @bl3343
      @bl3343 Місяць тому +3

      I agree with everything you said except Richard Pryor being funny in this movie.

    • @KasumiKenshirou
      @KasumiKenshirou Місяць тому +3

      I'm not sure if it's true, but I remember hearing that the movie originally WAS supposed to be about Braniac.

  • @Macapta
    @Macapta Місяць тому +9

    I actually really love seeing Clark’s highschool yearbook photo at 9:13.
    It actually looks like a real yearbook photo and it’s so endearing.

  • @rouenrobinson
    @rouenrobinson Місяць тому +12

    I like the Amadeus reference but now that you pointed it out, that scene makes me think of the Crow when Top Dollar says, "We oughta video tape this and play it back in slow motion."

  • @ryanmorejon5813
    @ryanmorejon5813 Місяць тому +43

    The one thing that at least makes the movie bearable is Christopher Reeve giving a great performance it has Superman and the fight scene between evil Superman and Clark Kent was definitely the highlight especially given of how long this film definitely didn't do very well from the previous two films

  • @davidrothman5258
    @davidrothman5258 Місяць тому +172

    You should know this by now. When superman came out he couldn't fly. That's why the whole leap over a building was important.

    • @destroyerblackdragon
      @destroyerblackdragon Місяць тому +13

      So, he just jumped and ran around?

    • @joshuabunting882
      @joshuabunting882 Місяць тому +20

      @@destroyerblackdragonyes exactly that

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Місяць тому +14

      ​@@destroyerblackdragonLike Hulk, yes.

    • @dreamlandnightmare
      @dreamlandnightmare Місяць тому +23

      @@joshuabunting882 Yep, the first time he flew it was a mistake by an artist who didn't understand Superman's powers. The Fleischer cartoons also popularized ability to fly.

    • @CaptViewtiful98
      @CaptViewtiful98 Місяць тому +17

      I heard that Superman's ability to fly happened by accident. In later issues after his debut, some artists misinterpreted his big leaps as just flying.

  • @jessehamm3573
    @jessehamm3573 Місяць тому +9

    I remember when several deleted scenes were re-inserted during primetime television broadcasts of Superman III.
    In some of these scenes, Gus expresses reluctance to go along with Webster's schemes, but the latter keeps threatening Gus with a prison sentence over the embezzlement scheme if he refuses to comply. This made Richard Pryor's character seem more sympathetic. It also explains the scene in which Gorman tells Webster "You can't run that jail number on me anymore."

    • @masere
      @masere Місяць тому +4

      I had the full version on vhs. Proper opening credits, Superman rescuing a toddler from a tree, tons of extra dialogue.
      Example...
      When the coach gets to the chemical fire, edited has...
      Clark - "Hey, look at that."
      Jimmy -"Wow."
      The extra dialogue has...
      Jimmy - "What a beautiful sunset."
      Clark - "At 3 o'clock in the afternoon?"

  • @agentprime2179
    @agentprime2179 Місяць тому +17

    This definitely needs a fanscription where they take out Richard Pryor, the evil computer is Brainiac and either bring back Lex Luthor to replace Ross Webster or keep Webster and have him be Maxwell Lord instead. I haven't completely thought this through. I don't know much about Brainiac from the comics. He was alien who wiped out planets and preserved what remains of them in small bottles, am I right? I remember in the 90s animated series which came out 13 years after this film, he was Krypton's computer, so I don't know if he was a computer pre Superman III. Maybe a piece of him lands on earth and he can be used to create an A.I. computer.

    • @pvanukoff
      @pvanukoff Місяць тому +3

      "defiantly"

    • @liamtheman2099
      @liamtheman2099 Місяць тому +2

      @@pvanukoffI know it’s supposed to be definitely but how about undeniably?

    • @agentprime2179
      @agentprime2179 Місяць тому +3

      @@pvanukoff that was not what I meant. Damn spell check.

  • @jessedellross3245
    @jessedellross3245 Місяць тому +26

    He was a world class comedian.
    He was a world class comedian
    He was a world class comedian
    He was a world class comedian
    He was a world class comedian

    • @supermegaman88
      @supermegaman88 Місяць тому +4

      Even world star comedians slum it once in a while :( but hey Pryor was still funny as hell with the right hands and direction

    • @kittycatmeowmeow963
      @kittycatmeowmeow963 Місяць тому +1

      Yeah. Doug said that he was a legend and great in other movies. Just not in this 1. Did you pay any attention to him?🤨

    • @supermegaman88
      @supermegaman88 Місяць тому +7

      @@kittycatmeowmeow963
      Ah it just seems like their processing their favorite comedian performing a subpar performance ^^’ can’t blame em, we all had that moment when we feel broken seeing one of our favs perform abysmally

    • @jessedellross3245
      @jessedellross3245 Місяць тому +2

      @@supermegaman88something like that. I’ve never seen Pryor in anything else and I’ve been told he was amazing.
      So to see this………….god I need to remind myself he was amazing. And don’t lie we all do

    • @supermegaman88
      @supermegaman88 Місяць тому

      @@jessedellross3245
      Heh with you there bud. Feeling is mutual whenever I see Lewis black in a pg movie (unless it’s inside out, they somehow made him funny) I recommend you go see one of pryors previous performances in a movie or comedy performance, then maybe blame the writers or director :P helps me a ton

  • @user-fd3so8um5c
    @user-fd3so8um5c Місяць тому +55

    When Superman III became such a big hit, it had a mix of action and comedy. It even had Richard Pryor in this epic sequel.
    Back in the day, the Nostalgia Critic himself, Doug Walker, was reviewing the top 11 dumbest Superman moments. There was even a from the movie clip where all the weird stuff happened. The only thing missing according to Doug is the humor.

  • @ronbarnabei8226
    @ronbarnabei8226 Місяць тому +8

    That scene with the computer taking over the sister gave me nightmares.

  • @jackbrennan1125
    @jackbrennan1125 Місяць тому +6

    I quite like the premise. Make it about a down on his luck engineer or chemist who's employed by the villain to reproduce kryptonite to kill Superman. At first he refuses but he has a family and becomes an extremely reluctant accomplice. He manages to develop red kryptonite which at first disappoints the villain but it when its shown it makes Superman evil he thinks it's even better. Thats when its revealed his true plan: Metallo. He enlists a war hero to be the first subject for the project, who agrees because the villain says it will restore his lost limbs which he lost in combat. He intends to market it to the united states military as a super soldier and capitalizes on Superman's evil state by having Metallo beat him in a fight and save everyone. Eventually Metallo realizes hes lost all connection to humanity because he has no ability to feel with his metal skin. He goes berserk and becomes a parallel to Superman. He was noble, selfless, a war hero, but it cost him everything. And when he gets home he finds he was fighting for a corrupt, greedy and heartless society. He can only see the bad in people because of his experiences. And now He lost his limbs but now he's lost his whole body. People still think hes a hero sure, but he's also freak. More machine then Man, who can never belong. Have the scene where Clark splits in two sides like before, have the resolution involve the chemist help Superman beat Metallo and thar hammers home that people while flawed but capable of great goodness, like his father told him. They stop the bad guy from concerting more people into Metallo weapons and Hell, you can even have the super computer be the final boss like before. Supermans faith in human goodness is restored, the chemist turns over a new leaf and finds an humble but honest work cut to Superman flying into space and smiling at the camera.

  • @johnnysparkle
    @johnnysparkle Місяць тому +26

    Superman III had perhaps the smoothest production phase of all the Christopher Reeve Superman films, but still had to suffer heavy re-writes after the original script featuring Brainiac and Supergirl was rejected, since it was considered too expensive to film because of its inferior budget compared to the previous two movies (plus, they wanted to give Supergirl her own movie). Reeve did not want to play Superman once again, partly because he was fed up with the role and partly because he felt that Donner had been unfairly treated, leading the producers to scramble for replacements (Tony Danza was heavily considered for Reeve’s role). It was only when they allowed Reeve veto power over the script that they got him back. Apparently Lois Lane’s role was reduced to five minutes after actress Margot Kidder publicly expressed some sympathy for Donner after the Salkinds fired him. Taking Donner and Kidder’s side, Hackman refused to return for this film. The video game that Ross Webster plays in the film was developed especially for the movie but had to be downgraded because the original version was considered too realistic for 1983. Richard Pryor was coked out of his brains during filming. On top of all that, a threatened lawsuit from the producers of Kramer vs. Kramer forced the originally-planned title, Superman vs. Superman: Superman III to be ditched, after the Salkinds decided it wasn't worth the fight.

    • @Revkor
      @Revkor Місяць тому

      in the end the producers were morons

    • @BlueBlazeKing
      @BlueBlazeKing Місяць тому +1

      It’s hard to believe they could copyright a vs title

    • @Siliqueath
      @Siliqueath Місяць тому

      Indeed, some elements of the idea of Brainiac being the villain are still in there: The Super computer, cyborg assimilation, and the adapting ray - which if you look at it, has Brainiacs tri-pointing symbol/design on it... subtle nods/hints to what might have been...

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@SiliqueathBelieve it or not, the movie could've been a LOT worse.
      Brainiac would've discovered Supergirl after she landed on his planet and adopted her as a daughter until she became an adult that he wants to... F*CK her. (In a Count Olaf way too.) But she declines his marriage proposal and travels to Earth and becomes a Gym teacher as Brainiac desperately tries searching for her. Eventually Supergirl does heroic acts and gets Superman's attention where the two... FALL IN LOVE. (The writer even points out that they AREN'T cousins so he can have an excuse to have them fall in love. Awful.) Brainiac heads to Europe and makes a castle his headquarters. Then when he finds out Superman and Supergirl are in love, he gets jealous and plots to build a machine that turns him evil. As a way to lure Supergirl back to him so can say quote "I'll turn the machine off and leave Superman alone if you marry me, but if you don't I'll make him eviler." (Actual line.)
      Supergirl surrenders and heads to his castle while Superman is set free to search for her. From here, Mr. Myxzptik randomly appears halfway into the movie! The first thing he says is "What's up dickhead?" and pranks Superman during his chase. After making him vanish with the old "say Kitpzyxm!" he received an "X-ray message?" from Supergirl where she is. And Brainiac takes her into a time portal back to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile, Jimmy Olsen and Lana coincidentally show up to Europe. (Btw, Lois is written out of the story by saying she moved to Hong Kong and Lana doesn't know who Clark is despite being his childhood crush.) and they free Superman from a laser cage. They then go back in time where Brainiac NOW decides to try to kill Superman and then f*ck his adopted daughter. Brainiac turns the evil machine back on to make Superman evil again, but fails because of... THE POWER OF LOVE he has with Supergirl. (F*ck you.) Superman quickly returns to the present to make a deal with Mr Myxzptik and they both go back in time and he screws up the dimension where Superman and Brainiac don't have powers so they can have a duel. Superman wins and Brainiac is taken to a dimension where he'll rot as everyone returns to their present dimension. After making Mr Myxzptik disappear from a challenge of freezing Metropolis into scattered puzzles that have to be solved in 1 minute. (Before the pieces are sent to Mercury.) Which he and Supergirl work together to solve. Thus, everyone forgives Superman is good, and the treatment ends on either having Superman marry Supergirl at the end of the movie or in Superman IV.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +120

    Another Fun Fact: August "Gus" Gorman steals money from his company by collecting fractions of a cent from other accounts and depositing them in his personal account. In computer crime terminology, it's called "salami shaving."

    • @IngoFilmfreak
      @IngoFilmfreak Місяць тому +12

      …and it‘s what they did in OFFICE SPACE!!😆😆

    • @ThePkmnYPerson
      @ThePkmnYPerson Місяць тому +2

      Why's it called that?

    • @M_Alexander
      @M_Alexander Місяць тому +6

      ​@@ThePkmnYPerson because you can shave bits off of a salami to keep and no one can tell after it's sliced

    • @ThePkmnYPerson
      @ThePkmnYPerson Місяць тому +3

      @@M_Alexander I see. Thanks.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa Місяць тому +6

      Wait, it's called _salami shaving?_ I've been calling it circumcision all these years. /s

  • @michaellucejr.6374
    @michaellucejr.6374 Місяць тому +12

    If I were changing stuff in this movie, here’s what I do I have Richard Pryor play a villain called the Prankster for a couple scenes, have the giant computer be Brainiac and have David Bowie play Brainiac’s human looking form. Also, keep Lana Lang in the movie because Annette was great and that’s important for her getting to play Martha Kent in Smallville later on down the road.
    Sidebar, save the evil Superman story arc for the fourth movie instead of Nuclear Man, also, Jon Cryer would not play Lex Luther’s nephew, because that never made sense anyway. Instead, he would be a hero from the future, disguised as a villain.

  • @blackmagician7645
    @blackmagician7645 Місяць тому +5

    21:09 Wonder if this inspired that Superman bar joke. The one where he keeps impressing another random bar patron. With his antics of jumping out the bar's high story window after downing some drinks. But coming back unharmed or phased. Which in turn after watching these extraordinary unexplained feet. Inspires the random bar patron to attempt the same theatrics after swallowing a shot himself. Which ends with the guy presumably plummeting to his own demise. And the bar tender exclaims- you got one sick sense of humor Superman!

  • @geardog24
    @geardog24 Місяць тому +9

    So instead of giving us real villains like Brainiac and Bizarro, we get angry drunk Superman and old lady with metal on her face.

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv Місяць тому +29

    The Extended TV Cut of *"SUPERMAN*
    *III"* had the opening credits take place
    in outer space (using the footage from
    the first film), before we're introduced to August "Gus" Gorman.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 Місяць тому +8

      I guess this is one of the rare cases where the tv version actually improves the movie somewhat.

    • @masere
      @masere Місяць тому +4

      I used to have the full version on vhs. Opening credits, Superman rescuing a toddler from a tree, loads of extra dialogue. In fact, a dvd boxset of all four films should have had that version, but mistakenly had the edited version. I was disappointed when I bought it, but didn't know the extended version should have been included, and that you could send it back for a replacement.

  • @coldsnap5742
    @coldsnap5742 Місяць тому +10

    You know those "what if Tim Burton did more Batman movies" bits you did?
    Those were great.
    You should do a similar thing expanding on the good bits from this film--the evil computer (Brainiac?), the Clark/Superman split and fight, etc.

  • @Kyeju
    @Kyeju Місяць тому +4

    Malcolm as Richard Pryor... to quote DBZ Abridged Vegeta, "Never have I needed something so much and not known until I received it."

  • @LewisYamanoteAintReal
    @LewisYamanoteAintReal Місяць тому +31

    I’m sorry, whenever i see Richard Pryor in something bad, i think of good versions of Richard’s acting like the SNL sketch with Chevy Chase or the wiz

    • @nehemiahpouncey3607
      @nehemiahpouncey3607 Місяць тому +4

      He even had his own variety show
      Called the Richard Pryor show.😂

    • @nicklundy9965
      @nicklundy9965 Місяць тому +4

      And a sesame street like children's show Pryor's place. It's got a pretty nice theme tune by the guy who sings the Ghostbusters theme song.

    • @nehemiahpouncey3607
      @nehemiahpouncey3607 Місяць тому +1

      @@nicklundy9965 it's sad he winded
      Up in a wheelchair years later then
      Passed.

    • @nicklundy9965
      @nicklundy9965 Місяць тому +2

      @@nehemiahpouncey3607 yea kind like Chrispher Reeves. At least they left us a pretty good legacy behind.

    • @nehemiahpouncey3607
      @nehemiahpouncey3607 Місяць тому +1

      @@nicklundy9965 yep.

  • @BatmanFan76
    @BatmanFan76 Місяць тому +78

    There is one true thing about this movie we can never forget: It’s not as crappy as Superman IV.

    • @zachhaywood1564
      @zachhaywood1564 Місяць тому +2

      But, let's be real, that's not saying much. You can say the same about Jaws.

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 Місяць тому +11

      Superman IV'S at least entertainingly bad. This is just DULL. It's like the difference between the 2000s Fantastic Four movies and the 2015 reboot.

    • @jeuryrabassa4724
      @jeuryrabassa4724 Місяць тому

      ​@jlev1028 Or Batman:Forever with Batman & Robin.
      At least in the 2000's Fantastic Four movies, Chris Evans' Johnny Storm/Human Touch was actually a lot of fun and The Silver Surfer from the second film was actually very cool.

    • @jeuryrabassa4724
      @jeuryrabassa4724 Місяць тому +2

      Kinda like with Batman: Forever not being as bad and crappy as Batman & Robin.

    • @DSan-kl2yc
      @DSan-kl2yc Місяць тому +1

      It's worst

  • @noahblair3020
    @noahblair3020 Місяць тому +9

    27:13 - 27:27
    3 ideas I got what this could’ve been.
    1. Brainiac
    2. Cyborg Superman
    3. Brainiac AND Cyborg Superman!

    • @jeuryrabassa4724
      @jeuryrabassa4724 Місяць тому +2

      4. Yes.

    • @22espec
      @22espec Місяць тому +5

      Cyborg Superman was created in the 90's

    • @noahblair3020
      @noahblair3020 Місяць тому +3

      @@22espec
      Yes, and Harley Quinn was originally created in Batman: the animated series, but now she’s everywhere! It could’ve been one of those transitional things!

  • @ForOrAgainstUs
    @ForOrAgainstUs Місяць тому +4

    The only thing I remember from this movie that I probably watched once as a child is the computer turning the lady into a robot. Absolutely horrified me.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Місяць тому +23

    I'm just waiting for the part of the review where a tar contaminated Superman Credit Card causes him to split into Doug Walker and Evil Nostalgia Critic.

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 Місяць тому +3

      I’m guessing a Bat Credit Card would get him back to his senses?

    • @bl3343
      @bl3343 Місяць тому +3

      Now I need to know what an Evil Nostalgia Critic would look like.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +56

    You know it's a shame Richard Pryor never got his big mainstream hollywood career but i'm glad to say he was a star in a Superman movie

    • @huntercoleman460
      @huntercoleman460 Місяць тому +5

      What about The Toy, Brewster’s Millions, and the movies he did with Gene Wilder?

    • @heynae2016
      @heynae2016 Місяць тому +5

      You all should watch Harlem Nights

    • @JerrySkoll
      @JerrySkoll Місяць тому +1

      I know Richard prior because of the awesome comedy movie see no evil hear no evil, thats where i first knew richard prior

    • @Filmation77
      @Filmation77 Місяць тому +2

      Richard Pryor was THE Black Comedy star of his time before The Rise of Eddie Murphy.

    • @rommix0
      @rommix0 Місяць тому

      @@huntercoleman460Ooh boy. Now The Toy is one of those movies that has aged terribly. It's basically a movie about a young rich boy buying a black man. Surprise Surprise the boy's dad is a racist confederate.

  • @ElBichoAzuloso
    @ElBichoAzuloso Місяць тому +8

    In the original script, the villain was Brainiac and of that only the supercomputer remained. Also, Batman appeared behind the scenes in that scene, there are photos of it.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +1

      In the original script Brainiac would've discovered Supergirl after she landed on his planet and adopted her as a daughter until she became an adult that he wants to... FUCK her. (In a Count Olaf way too.) But she declines his marriage proposal and travels to Earth and becomes a Gym teacher as Brainiac desperately tries searching for her. Eventually Supergirl does heroic acts and gets Superman's attention where the two... FALL IN LOVE. (The writer even points out that they AREN'T cousins so he can have an excuse to have them fall in love. Awful.) Brainiac heads to Europe and makes a castle his headquarters. Then when he finds out Superman and Supergirl are in love, he gets jealous and plots to build a machine that turns him evil. As a way to lure Supergirl back to him so can say quote "I'll turn the machine off and leave Superman alone if you marry me, but if you don't I'll make him eviler." (Actual line.)
      Supergirl surrenders and heads to his castle while Superman is set free to search for her. From here, Mr. Myxzptik randomly appears halfway into the movie! The first thing he says is "What's up dickhead?" and pranks Superman during his chase. After making him vanish with the old "say Kitpzyxm!" he received an "X-ray message?" from Supergirl where she is. And Brainiac takes her into a time portal back to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile, Jimmy Olsen and Lana coincidentally show up to Europe. (Btw, Lois is written out of the story by saying she moved to Hong Kong and Lana doesn't know who Clark is despite being his childhood crush.) and they free Superman from a laser cage. They then go back in time where Brainiac NOW decides to try to kill Superman and then fuck his adopted daughter. Brainiac turns the evil machine back on to make Superman evil again, but fails because of... THE POWER OF LOVE he has with Supergirl. (Fuck you.) Superman quickly returns to the present to make a deal with Mr Myxzptik and they both go back in time and he screws up the dimension where Superman and Brainiac don't have powers so they can have a duel. Superman wins and Brainiac is taken to a dimension where he'll rot as everyone returns to their present dimension. After making Mr Myxzptik disappear from a challenge of freezing Metropolis into scattered puzzles that have to be solved in 1 minute. (Before the pieces are sent to Mercury.) Which he and Supergirl work together to solve. Thus, everyone forgives Superman is good, and the treatment ends on either having Superman marry Supergirl at the end of the movie or in Superman IV.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +2

      Believe it or not, the movie could've been a LOT worse.
      Brainiac would've discovered Supergirl after she landed on his planet and adopted her as a daughter until she became an adult that he wants to... F*CK her. (In a Count Olaf way too.) But she declines his marriage proposal and travels to Earth and becomes a Gym teacher as Brainiac desperately tries searching for her. Eventually Supergirl does heroic acts and gets Superman's attention where the two... FALL IN LOVE. (The writer even points out that they AREN'T cousins so he can have an excuse to have them fall in love. Awful.) Brainiac heads to Europe and makes a castle his headquarters. Then when he finds out Superman and Supergirl are in love, he gets jealous and plots to build a machine that turns him evil. As a way to lure Supergirl back to him so can say quote "I'll turn the machine off and leave Superman alone if you marry me, but if you don't I'll make him eviler." (Actual line.)
      Supergirl surrenders and heads to his castle while Superman is set free to search for her. From here, Mr. Myxzptik randomly appears halfway into the movie! The first thing he says is "What's up dickhead?" and pranks Superman during his chase. After making him vanish with the old "say Kitpzyxm!" he received an "X-ray message?" from Supergirl where she is. And Brainiac takes her into a time portal back to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile, Jimmy Olsen and Lana coincidentally show up to Europe. (Btw, Lois is written out of the story by saying she moved to Hong Kong and Lana doesn't know who Clark is despite being his childhood crush.) and they free Superman from a laser cage. They then go back in time where Brainiac NOW decides to try to kill Superman and then f*ck his adopted daughter. Brainiac turns the evil machine back on to make Superman evil again, but fails because of... THE POWER OF LOVE he has with Supergirl. (F*ck you.) Superman quickly returns to the present to make a deal with Mr Myxzptik and they both go back in time and he screws up the dimension where Superman and Brainiac don't have powers so they can have a duel. Superman wins and Brainiac is taken to a dimension where he'll rot as everyone returns to their present dimension. After making Mr Myxzptik disappear from a challenge of freezing Metropolis into scattered puzzles that have to be solved in 1 minute. (Before the pieces are sent to Mercury.) Which he and Supergirl work together to solve. Thus, everyone forgives Superman is good, and the treatment ends on either having Superman marry Supergirl at the end of the movie or in Superman IV.

    • @ElBichoAzuloso
      @ElBichoAzuloso Місяць тому

      @@brandonspain12345 wtf ???

  • @miketaterparker
    @miketaterparker Місяць тому +20

    Come on, Doug! You had a perfect callback to your review of IT and you didn't use it?!?
    Evil Superman flies away. Annette O'Toole: Why is it so mean?

  • @seanpatrickcain2
    @seanpatrickcain2 Місяць тому +10

    The battle in the junkyard is considered the most iconic scene of the movie.

  • @ONaRitz
    @ONaRitz Місяць тому +26

    Great review critic!!
    I remember watching this one growing up and always felt it didn't have the magic the first two did

  • @nsaubhagya1991
    @nsaubhagya1991 Місяць тому +3

    1:38 I think there's a lot of potential to Krypto. Has anyone read Grant Morrison's Action Comics run?
    In Action Comics #13, Krypto becomes like a guardian angel watching over Kal-El, when he's sent to Earth. Krypto was 'made' by Jor-El for his son. And was lost in the Phantom Zone while protecting the baby Kal and his parents.
    In the Phantom Zone you exist like a ghost. You can see others. But others can't see you.
    So, Krypto like a faithful dog actually watches over Superman. Almost like a watchful guardian. He was always there with him. Especially during his low points like loosing his parents Martha and Jonathan. But Kal couldn't see or sense Krypto.
    Till he's reunited with him on escaping the Phantom Zone. That's a pretty good story of a dog and his master. Even when he's separated by worlds his love and loyalty for Kal never wavers.

  • @Climinator-op6kh
    @Climinator-op6kh Місяць тому +3

    Gus Gorman is really the equivalent of Edward Nygma. Both played by comedians. Both nerds who wanted to be recognised by their superiors. The only difference is Gus repents at the end.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +22

    Another Fun Fact: Although the teenage Clark Kent was played by Jeff East in Superman (1978), a teenage image of Christopher Reeve is seen hanging in the gymnasium during the Smallville High reunion scene.

    • @masere
      @masere Місяць тому +2

      Jeff East's Clark was voiced by Reeve too.

  • @garrettschnaufer9983
    @garrettschnaufer9983 Місяць тому +7

    24:21 I'm still scared to this very day that the scene with the woman getting turned into an evil robot. One of my childhood nightmares ever since.

    • @lennypearl
      @lennypearl Місяць тому +3

      You’re not the only one who was traumatized!

    • @ssaman3549
      @ssaman3549 21 день тому +1

      gosh, even watch a video with funny still gives me creeps

  • @mattypaul87
    @mattypaul87 Місяць тому +7

    If anything, Brainiac should've been the final boss since he more or less is a supercomputer. Superman facing his inner demons was a neat concept that definitely could've been expanded upon for most of the movie. Have Brainaic be the one to corrupt Superman and Clark needed to escape from within and beat the corruption.

    • @22espec
      @22espec Місяць тому +2

      Everybody thinks the same, the problem was... they thought they needed a big backstory for the supercomputer when they could have skipped all the story with the thing already built and in the process of conquering earth and just tell Brainiac's story in some short flashbacks but sadly noone was smart to think about it.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +57

    Fun Fact: After Margot Kidder expressed her disgust about the firing of Richard Donner to producers Alexander Salkind and Ilya Salkind, her role was cut to 12 lines and less than five minutes of screen time. In the film's 2006 DVD commentary, Ilya Salkind says there was little need for Lois Lane in this movie because her relationship with Superman ended at the end of Superman II (1980).

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 Місяць тому +3

      That and Lana was a much better done character

    • @PetProjects2011
      @PetProjects2011 Місяць тому +2

      Doug brings that up in the video.

  • @jbizz80
    @jbizz80 Місяць тому +3

    Richard Pryor pre-fire and post-fire are like two completely different people. Some of the roles he took in the 80s were a disgrace to his talents. They paid him a lot of money though, so there's that.

  • @mryoungandbrave1
    @mryoungandbrave1 Місяць тому +4

    The idea of Synthetic Kryptonite is actually a really good one, but it should someone like Lex or Bruno Mannheim making it, not some random new character. I feel as though the 'Red Kryptonite' Superman story only works when people know Clark, and it parallels the Spiderman Symbiote storyline.

  • @Nathanatos22
    @Nathanatos22 Місяць тому +4

    This is one of those movie I watched so often as a kid that it’s hard to evaluate as an adult. Back then, I had no idea Pryor was a comedian, so I just perceived Gus as a quirky character. I think it still works as long as you’re not expecting pure comedy.
    Regarding the junkyard fight scene, I’m not sure a verbal duel would have worked. I think the fight was supposed to be purely symbolic, and it worked on that level.

  • @Psmgamer
    @Psmgamer Місяць тому +8

    Superman 3 feels more like a Richard Pryor movie.

  • @renji90998
    @renji90998 Місяць тому +7

    Another review for this movie had an interesting idea of what if Richard Pryor was Mr. Mxyzptlk. That would actually make a lot of sense. Especially with all the chaos happening in the first few minutes of the first act.

    • @chadharger9323
      @chadharger9323 Місяць тому +1

      Or Toyman.

    • @kaijukid1443
      @kaijukid1443 28 днів тому

      Okay, that’s not a bad idea. There’s something in there

  • @CaptRobertApril
    @CaptRobertApril Місяць тому +2

    Bit of a trivia anecdote: Annette O'Toole has a huge Superman fan since she was a girl (when the producers of Smallville were talking to her about playing Martha Kent, she mentioned she played Lana in Superman III, and she suddenly made them feel like they were doing a Bible study with a nun, she was so far ahead of them). Anyway, in the documentary "Look! Up In The Sky!", she talks about how hadn't seen Chris Reeve in the suit until the scene where Superman flies in with the little brat he'd rescued, when he was lowered down in the flying rig, so she didn't see Chris, or Clark, she saw the Superman from her childhood, and went a little gaga.

  • @JakexEagle
    @JakexEagle Місяць тому +2

    Right after "he looks like he was waiting the green lantern!" UA-cam immediately cut to a mint mobile ad with Ryan Reynolds, that HAS to be intentional, I am hysterical rn! 🤣

  • @Justin-0427
    @Justin-0427 Місяць тому +12

    The beginning skit reminds me of the writing room for the Sonic Movies like “who should we introduce alongside Shadow?”

    • @PaulW_ftPAULK
      @PaulW_ftPAULK Місяць тому +1

      Rouge, Amy, or both?

    • @Justin-0427
      @Justin-0427 Місяць тому +1

      @@PaulW_ftPAULK Both Both is good 😂

    • @scottydu81
      @scottydu81 Місяць тому

      @@Justin-0427 Surprise! You get a wacky Patton Oswalt instead!

    • @dastvan8002
      @dastvan8002 Місяць тому +1

      _inhales a bottle of whiskey_ Big the freaking cat.

    • @jeuryrabassa4724
      @jeuryrabassa4724 Місяць тому

      ​@@PaulW_ftPAULK Yes.

  • @ProfessorZoom2140
    @ProfessorZoom2140 Місяць тому +13

    Fun fact: Russ Webster was actually the inspiration for the modern Lex Luthor. How?
    People often confuse Webster for being a boring knockoff version of Lex, when it's actually not the case.
    When Superman 3 came out, Lex in the comics was more of a mad scientist/underground arch-criminal.
    It's only in 1986 when DC rebooted the timeline and made Lex into the evil and manipulative businessman we know him today. A full three years after Superman 3.
    Modern Lex even has a sister and an attractive assistant just like Webster.
    So when you watch this film remember that Webster was an original character that influenced the comics. Not the other way around.
    I honestly don't hate this movie, it's entertaining enough imo. Lana Lang was great, the evil Superman scenes and the junkyard fight are a standout.
    Btw, I think that people miss the point of "evil Superman".
    And that's because he wasn't technically "evil", he was more like "Superman under the influence", or "drug addict Superman". That's why his behavior was more juvenile and uncaring rather than evil.
    What's interesting is that Gus actually made red Kryptonite, but it's green in the movie for some reason.
    Many of these elements in the movie are actually from the early comics.

  • @Yatta-777
    @Yatta-777 Місяць тому +2

    I find it interesting that the Richard Pryor character also inspired Baxter Stockman from the TMNT. I know he mistly gets the short end of the stick, but he's my favorite TMNT antagonist.

  • @ethanreynolds3522
    @ethanreynolds3522 Місяць тому +4

    Fanscription idea. What if Brainiac was the villian of the movie?

  • @ValgardDerithos
    @ValgardDerithos Місяць тому +3

    The main villain of this movie should have been Metallo or Brainiac. Cyborg Superman's first appearance was after the Death of Superman event in the early 90s.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +11

    Another Fun Fact: The song "Earth Angel" by The Penguins is played during the Smallville High School reunion dance attended by Clark Kent and Lana Lang. It was also played during the "Enchantment Under the Sea" dance at Hill Valley High School on November 12, 1955 in Back to the Future (1985). Marc McClure (Jimmy Olsen) also appeared in that film as Marty McFly's elder brother Dave McFly. also The Beatles cover of "Roll Over Beethoven" plays during the Smallville High School Reunion dance. Richard Lester also directed the Beatles' first two films, A Hard Day's Night (1964) and Help! (1965).

  • @thesaiyanjedi
    @thesaiyanjedi Місяць тому +1

    The real shame about this movie is that Ilya Salkind says that his original treat for this film was going to be a much bigger, cosmic production that, yes, would have actually pulled more from the comics. Brainiac would have been featured as the main villain, Supergirl would have been introduced with a love triangle forming between her, Brainiac and Superman (strange and creepy choice, I know) and even Mr. Myxzptlk would have made an appearance. However, Warner Brothers rejected that treatment because they thought it would be too complex and expensive. Some elements did remain in the final film, including Superman splitting into his good and evil self (though why the evil Superman isn't just Bizarro is beyond me), and the supercomputer element is what remains of Brainiac's presence.
    All these years later, not only are we stuck with this movie, but we are still barely scratching the surface of Superman villains on film. How we still haven't gotten Brainiac by now is so disappointing to me.
    By the way, if you do want an idea of what a Christopher Reeve's Superman vs. Brainiac movie could have been, read the comic Superman '78. I recommend it, along with Batman '89.

  • @DreFromMaine8472
    @DreFromMaine8472 Місяць тому +2

    Despite how bad Superman III was compared to the first two, I still really liked Annette O'Toole as Lana Lang. She was perfect for the part. Thanks for reviewing this!

  • @billix0
    @billix0 Місяць тому +4

    I maintain this is worse than Quest for Peace. QfP at least seems to be in the spirit of the first movie, it's just a victim of low budget. SMIII just doesn't mesh with Reeves franchise at all. It's like the director and producers' only take on the superhero genre was the Adam West Batman, and they couldn't stand to deviate it from it. SMIII actually has all the same issues as Thor Love and Thunder. The people that made it clearly think the humor is the most important aspect of the movie and that the humor should focus on quantity over quality. The end result is a stream of gags and jokes to the point the movie is beating over the head with them.

  • @jakekong8489
    @jakekong8489 Місяць тому +5

    Least favorite Superman movie

  • @BrandonIT1337
    @BrandonIT1337 Місяць тому +2

    YES, that transformation sequence horrified me as a child and I still remember it to this very day decades later...

  • @samkresil6011
    @samkresil6011 Місяць тому +2

    24:21 I remember finding this scene where this woman turns into a robot terrifying when I was younger and I actually didn't watch the whole film then.

    • @ssaman3549
      @ssaman3549 20 днів тому

      I remember seeing this clip in the Fandango 9/10 clip video of the movie in the 18th of september of 2021 at 23: 00. PM.....i'll never forget this moment where i got incredibly scared in a point where i couldn't sleep.

    • @ssaman3549
      @ssaman3549 15 днів тому

      me too.

  • @koneheadcokehead4981
    @koneheadcokehead4981 Місяць тому +10

    To quote the Late great Norm MacDonald and something i'm sure Richard Pryor might be thinking about is "If you're in charge of your own destiny, then it's not destiny."

  • @user-rw5bf8ue5c
    @user-rw5bf8ue5c Місяць тому +3

    Tell me, will you analyze films like "Sleepy Hollow" or "Wolf Man" or "Peter Jackson's King Kong".

  • @AlexRN
    @AlexRN Місяць тому +2

    I was floored by how good Malcom’s impression of Richard Pryor was. Kudos!

  • @Stinger2578
    @Stinger2578 Місяць тому +2

    Superman III happens to be my favorite. It was the first one I remember seeing probably around 6 or 7 years old. The scene of the Clark/Superman fight in the junkyard, the stuff with Richard Pryor and I remember being scared watching Superman fight the machine and the sister, and the acid. There was also the scene of a 'video game' and just a few years later there was an arcade version of Superman.

  • @sorenthefilmbrony
    @sorenthefilmbrony Місяць тому +4

    This movie is worse than Superman 4 and Josstice League. There, I said it.

  • @ekmalsukarno2302
    @ekmalsukarno2302 Місяць тому +5

    Doug, it would mean a lot to me if you reviewed these following movies:
    - Wild Thornberrys Movie (starring Tim Curry and Lacey Chabert)
    - Blast from the Past (starring Brendan Fraser and Christopher Walken)
    - Undercover Brother (starring Neil Patrick Harris and Dave Chappelle)
    - Igor (an animated film starring John Cusack and Steve Buscemi)
    - Spiderwick Chronicles (starring Freddie Highmore and Seth Rogen)
    - Penelope (starring Christina Ricci and James McAvoy)
    - Aliens in the Attic (starring Kevin Nealon and Doris Roberts)
    - The 10th Kingdom (a miniseries starring John Larroquette and Dianne Wiest)
    Thank you very much and please accept my requests.

    • @DanArnets1492
      @DanArnets1492 Місяць тому

      "I AM A SPIDERWICK, DOCTOR HAN!"

  • @poochyenajones1362
    @poochyenajones1362 Місяць тому +1

    You know, if you think about it: they could've establish that supercomputer early in the movie, have Robert Vaughn's character use it to do some slimy crimes to boost his business empire, make it gain self-consciousness through some means, then have it possess and robotosize Vaughn halfway through the movie and BAM, he now goes by the name BRAINIAC and plans to destroy Superman and take over the world. You could throw in some commentary on abusing computers and digital technology. You could also add Brainiac and Superman having a philosophical discussion on mankind, where the former would try to show Superman how his quest for helping people is pointless and illogical. It could really hit Supes deeply in the heart to the point where he might get bitter with the world and starts being petty and uncaring (or have Brainiac brainwash him or something). But eventually after some self-reflection his ideals do prevail and he finds the way to stop Brainiac for good.
    The point is that ways Superman is being challenged not just by a mere thug or evildoer but by a computer which is supposed to be perfect and unphamable. But of course just cold logic and efficiency can't build a better future without adding humanity.
    I'd watch that movie.

  • @LungsOutJem
    @LungsOutJem 11 днів тому +1

    That Evil Superman vs Clark Kent fight is a perfect example of a persistent Hollywood issue. The roles actors want to play the most are often boring for audiences. I'm sure Chris loved playing both evil and good versions of the character.

  • @Iwillone
    @Iwillone Місяць тому +4

    This could have been about Brainiac or Bizarro (which kinda exists in this movie), but we got a comedian who could have worked if he was Mitzelplik (- ^ )

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +2

      Believe it or not, the movie could've been a LOT worse.
      Brainiac would've discovered Supergirl after she landed on his planet and adopted her as a daughter until she became an adult that he wants to... F*CK her. (In a Count Olaf way too.) But she declines his marriage proposal and travels to Earth and becomes a Gym teacher as Brainiac desperately tries searching for her. Eventually Supergirl does heroic acts and gets Superman's attention where the two... FALL IN LOVE. (The writer even points out that they AREN'T cousins so he can have an excuse to have them fall in love. Awful.) Brainiac heads to Europe and makes a castle his headquarters. Then when he finds out Superman and Supergirl are in love, he gets jealous and plots to build a machine that turns him evil. As a way to lure Supergirl back to him so can say quote "I'll turn the machine off and leave Superman alone if you marry me, but if you don't I'll make him eviler." (Actual line.)
      Supergirl surrenders and heads to his castle while Superman is set free to search for her. From here, Mr. Myxzptik randomly appears halfway into the movie! The first thing he says is "What's up dickhead?" and pranks Superman during his chase. After making him vanish with the old "say Kitpzyxm!" he received an "X-ray message?" from Supergirl where she is. And Brainiac takes her into a time portal back to the Middle Ages. Meanwhile, Jimmy Olsen and Lana coincidentally show up to Europe. (Btw, Lois is written out of the story by saying she moved to Hong Kong and Lana doesn't know who Clark is despite being his childhood crush.) and they free Superman from a laser cage. They then go back in time where Brainiac NOW decides to try to kill Superman and then f*ck his adopted daughter. Brainiac turns the evil machine back on to make Superman evil again, but fails because of... THE POWER OF LOVE he has with Supergirl. (F*ck you.) Superman quickly returns to the present to make a deal with Mr Myxzptik and they both go back in time and he screws up the dimension where Superman and Brainiac don't have powers so they can have a duel. Superman wins and Brainiac is taken to a dimension where he'll rot as everyone returns to their present dimension. After making Mr Myxzptik disappear from a challenge of freezing Metropolis into scattered puzzles that have to be solved in 1 minute. (Before the pieces are sent to Mercury.) Which he and Supergirl work together to solve. Thus, everyone forgives Superman is good, and the treatment ends on either having Superman marry Supergirl at the end of the movie or in Superman IV.
      Suddenly, drunk Superman and Richard Pryor aren't so bad after all, hmm?

    • @Iwillone
      @Iwillone Місяць тому

      @@brandonspain12345 Yep, that would definitely have been worse 😐 Forgot about how bad that initial plot was.

  • @the_unknown_podcast
    @the_unknown_podcast Місяць тому +5

    Fun fact Lana is played by the same person that played Clark's mom in Smallville ( TV)

    • @aboxinspace
      @aboxinspace Місяць тому

      ironic that Lana in CW Superman&Lois gets possessed by Superman's mom

    • @22espec
      @22espec Місяць тому

      Yes, it has been mentioned a lot

  • @LightningNerd
    @LightningNerd Місяць тому +2

    God… I had forgotten about that robotization scene until this review. That scene messed me up as a kid. Thanks for the nightmares returning, Doug!

  • @michaellucejr.6374
    @michaellucejr.6374 Місяць тому +2

    And another thing! I think if after this film, the Supergirl should have included more ties to the Superman movies like maybe a cameo appearance by Christopher Reeve as Clark Kent but not as Superman.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Місяць тому +3

    Nice I always thought Superman lacking in Richard Pryor.

  • @johnnysparkle
    @johnnysparkle Місяць тому +4

    According to Ilya Salkind, the original script was going to involve Brainiac and Mister Mxyzptlk, who would've played by Dudley Moore, teaming up against Superman, who would also meet his cousin, Supergirl, who was adopted by Brainiac. The three characters would have been involved in a Love Triangle, with a jealous Brainiac turning Superman evil and Supergirl agreeing to marry him if he returned Superman to normal. Superman would have made a deal with Mxyzptlk to transport him and Brainiac to another dimension in order to settle the matter without superpowers, which they would have done by jousting in medieval armor.

    • @mfulunguanamanuelsebastiao4325
      @mfulunguanamanuelsebastiao4325 Місяць тому

      I hate living in this Timeline

    • @northwindkey
      @northwindkey Місяць тому +2

      Just as a note, in that treatment (Which is free online), Supergirl is not his cousin. They changed that just to have a romance for no reason, but they did at least change it and have it not be incest.

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@northwindkey Regardless, there's something about changing a pair of long established cousins from the comics into non related couples just to make the excuse to have them fall in love just feels... wrong. and creepy. (In a very fanfiction sorta way.)

    • @brandonspain12345
      @brandonspain12345 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@mfulunguanamanuelsebastiao4325 I hope you're joking. I'd take Richard Pryor skiing off a building and drunk Superman over a love triangle story where Brainiac tries to rape his adopted daughter through incest marriage and a random Superman character pops up hallway into the movie for braindead fanservice, and ending with a duel fight. And completely change Brainiac (a highly intelligent being with the plan of world dominance) into Count Olaf.
      We're in the good timeline, buddy.

  • @lucastheprinceofdarkness9344
    @lucastheprinceofdarkness9344 Місяць тому +1

    Fun Fact! About a year ago, we got a comic based on this version of Superman and it involved him finally facing off against Brainiac. It was pretty good in my opinion.

  • @waypastcoolkid
    @waypastcoolkid Місяць тому +1

    No Borg joke with the roboticization? “No resistance is futile”? Honestly proud of you for taking the SatAM high road ︎💙

  • @jeremyadler9620
    @jeremyadler9620 Місяць тому +3

    Fun fact about Robert Vaughn. When I first saw the movie, I knew him from the BBC series Hustle, where he played a con man. Highly recommend the series! It's really good :)

  • @dolphincrescent54
    @dolphincrescent54 Місяць тому +9

    How I desperately WISH this movie had been about the Pink Kryptonite!
    A woman can dream....

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Місяць тому +2

      Which version? It either turns you gay or switches your gender

    • @JerrySkoll
      @JerrySkoll Місяць тому +2

      I once saw a 1980s italian gossip magazine that had rumors of pink kriptonite appearing in supergirl or Superman movie at the time

    • @nemesis2345
      @nemesis2345 Місяць тому

      But instead we get the prototype of Black Kryptonite

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 Місяць тому +2

      “We don’t talk about the pink one.”
      -Solid JJ

    • @theironfox2756
      @theironfox2756 Місяць тому

      I saw a fan film by an obviously reputable producer portray pink kryptonite as causing arousal.

  • @pokemaniacalex8031
    @pokemaniacalex8031 Місяць тому +2

    The villain really should've been Brainiac. It would've tied in well with the pre-existing Super Computer idea, it would explain Gus's excentricities mixed in with bouts of unexplained competence (that being Gus is accually posessed by Brainiac, and is able to do all of this stuff, but wants to distract people with his odd behavior so nobody suspects him), and it could even reveal that Gus is Brainiac by having the afro be a wig, and Gus taking it off would show us the circular pattern on Brainiac's forehead. The computer can even robotisize Gus to make him even more like Brainiac from the comics, and Superman could, I guess, do that body fission thing he did when he split into good Clark and evil Superman for that personal battle thing on Gus to save him from Brainiac. Make that earlier scene make sense.

  • @MarkGuerrero-cz9bh
    @MarkGuerrero-cz9bh Місяць тому +1

    an early script had Brainiac and Mxyzpitlik. also included Supergirl but instead of superman's cousin would have been his love interest
    she would have had the same origin as Clark, except her ship was found by Brainiac

  • @Nasser851000
    @Nasser851000 Місяць тому +13

    Just finished watching X Men 97 and it was pretty good ;)

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Місяць тому +4

    My least favorite superman movie

  • @reneastorgaterre1954
    @reneastorgaterre1954 Місяць тому +2

    I swear to god I thought I was watching 2 movies at the same time, one was Superman goes on vacation, and the other Richard Pryor plays War Games, and at the middle mark both movies started to share the set.

  • @dubsquad156
    @dubsquad156 Місяць тому +1

    I have a feeling that this could have been the first time we could’ve had Brainiac on the big screen.
    With the whole computer plot he could have been a man-made enemy that was originally designed by a down on his luck scientist that ends up getting hired by Lex to create a technological empire, something that Superman could not destroy with his fists as it all exists on the internet. But the A.I begins to learn and grow more ambitious as to create something this complex it would have to be based off of someone’s brain so the Scientist modeled it after his brain but then later after getting hired by Lex he requests that his smarts is added to the make up of the brain. So it would have the genius of the scientist and the ambition and ego of Luthor creating a villain that evolves throughout the movie. First it starts off as a standard helpful program like Google, or Microsoft, then it evolves to NASA level computers as it creates something akin to crypto, then it starts to adapt to art and inadvertently learns emotions.
    Then the ambition of Luthor starts take hold as it then views it self as a greater being forced to slave away for something that is lesser than it after all IT was the one that created all these systems not Luthor, not the Scientist, IT did. So through the internet it then hires people from the shadows to steal and create an even greater computer for it. Then we get the first roboticization scene when it transforms the goons to robots and then eventually more and more people go missing. Eventually these things storm Lex Corp and while Luthor gets away the Scientist is caught and made into the prototype vessel for Brainiac then the invasion begins and its ultimate goal is to make Superman its vessel and roboticize the entire world for “Metal is superior to Flesh”.
    Edit: I just realized I combined a little bit of Ultron, Eggman, and Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It would still be cool in my opinion.