Thanks. I have done itva couple of times before and tested it in the John Deere ride on to make sure its all OK. Key us to leave it overnight to settle before draining it off. Off camera it takes 5 mins to mix it. And 10 mins the next day to drain it off. It's worth it for a mower or old machine.
Removing the ethanol drops the octane rating down from ~87 to 83 - 84. I found that adding (quality) octane booster added about $3.80 per gallon to bring the octane back up to 88. I have access to non-ethanol 91 octane gasoline in the nearby town for less than the added cost of extracting the ethanol. Your're also losing 10% of your fuel when you do the extraction on E10 gas.
i just start with premium. so ends up being 89-91 octane. plus i just use ethanol free for storing motors longer than 4 months. actually running a regularly used engine with ethanol seems to create no issues for me.
@@ct1762 Creates no issues for anyone except the naysayers. I've been running all my classic vehicles on Ethanol blended fuel since the UK introduced it in 2008, with no issues. The latest blended fuel introduced 1 year ago now contains up to 10% ethanol, but the naysayers claimed it destroyed their engines on the day it was introduced, even though it was introduced in accordance with all the vehicle manufacturers specs.
@@thra5herxb12s I've talked with plenty of so called ''naysayers'. It doesn't seem to affect everything, but the increase in number of problems with small and old engine's fuel systems definitely corresponds with the introduction of ethanol. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....it's not likely to be a donkey...even when the BBC news says it is..!
I think you will find that if the pump you are using at your ethanol free station is a single pipe type you are pumping in 1/2 gallon of 10% before the pump line is ethanol free if it was used for 10% the time before you used it. Just do an ethanol check on your fuel.
@@453421abcdefg12345 That is very possible for the type of pumping set up you described. The filling station I get non-ethanol gasoline from is a free standing pump that is isolated from the other pumps. It's an old style dial pump, no electronics. It's funny watching the gas jockey trying to figure out the charge without the pump telling him.
Water sinks, petrol, an oil derivative, floats. So, it's water at the bottom. Couldn't you fit a tap of some kind to the bottle top, then turn it upside down and drain off the water/ethanol mix leaving the fuel in the bottle and maybe burn the ethanol later to dispose of it?
On that Ethanol video you did 3 years ago back now. If you take poly PEX plastic clear line one shorter than the other one to set above the ethanol jelly and water at the bottom of the patrol unleaded fuel in the two liter.,or two litre plastic bottle drill two holes the same.,or about the same size for A snug fit of the lines to push through the cap twist it back on to the bottle full of fuel.,an etc. blow slightly into the shorter line to prime your hose to let drain into your one to store the ethanol free fuel in to use.
Do you have to be carefull what plastic container you use.. petrol melts some plastics. So when you leave it for a night it will be a melted mess when you return?
Good video, well demonstrated... But all that messing about, then lowering octane level, then adding octane booster back to it.. I put e10 in my bike, its already made my fuel tap leak.. So it definitely eats away at fuel lines etc.. Il just buy shell vpower from now on
What a great work around 👏👏. I have no use for it personally. But it's going to be great use for those people who are looking for a way out of the situation. As you said people put taps on containers and drain it. I think I would use a Demi Jar (from home brew kit)Cork bung with a tap or hose with a tap. It's clear and It's strong. Just needs a frame to hold it in while in use.
Yes to be honest I got a metal 5 gallon tank with a drain tap I use. But you can't see through it for a video. I just drain it off into a jar until petrol starts to flow. I been using it in my ride on for a few weeks now to make sure it was OK before I made a video about it. Thanks for watching.
A few years ago a local station sold regular gas that had over 35 percent alcohol. Many loggers and other chainsaw users ruined many of their saws by running that gas. One outfit lost a dozen 1000 dollar saws. I had one quit, decided i hadn't mixed the oil in, added more oil and started another saw which i noticed was overheating and shut it down but too late. I have been removing the alcohol from all fuel for small engines ever since.
Don't forget you have now reduced the octane rating and also washed out the detergents and some of the other additives that modern petrol contains. For lawn mower use it is cheaper to just use the super unleaded E5 petrol as you have reduced the E10 petrol by 10% and E5 is only something like seven and a half percent more expensive.
@@ct1762 Detergent mix with water, in fact they work by bonding to water at one end of the molecule and oil grease etc at the other end so the detergent and some petrol will wash out as well as the alcohol. If you want non ethanol petrol it better to get some aspen4.
@@Equiluxe1 Aspen4 is more than double the price though. Have just priced up 5litres of it and with a 5% discount it is £20.50p +VAT and on Amazon it is £7.37 per litre or £36.85p per gallon. Cheaper to buy the 5% stuff at the pump.
@@JonDingle But you do not need fuel stabiliser or "T oil and it can be left in the machines over winter without any trouble with rotted diaphragm's etc.
Great info, and good to know, but for your information, a US company called ‘ Mister Funnel’ makes a hydrophobic funnel that automatically filters out any water and ethanol in your petrol. So it cuts out most of the rigmarole.
They don’t remove the ethanol. They remove water, but once the ethanol bonds to the water, it is no longer just water so the mr funnel just pi55es through. (Ask me how I know!)
@@NorfolkMancave Waste oil goes in my diesel car strained through a sock with a bit of fresh diesel. Ethanol is very combustible, I run all my engines on it.
Where do you dispose of the ethanol contaminated water, I assume it’s poison in the water table and the earth. Thanks borris for poisoning my classic car and motorcycle. Motorists are also voters let’s not forget that.
Thanks for uploading this and spreading the tip. You're helping to save countless hours of pain! 👍👍
Thanks. I have done itva couple of times before and tested it in the John Deere ride on to make sure its all OK. Key us to leave it overnight to settle before draining it off.
Off camera it takes 5 mins to mix it. And 10 mins the next day to drain it off. It's worth it for a mower or old machine.
All those stupid people burning their houses down and pouring buckets of unwanted ethanol down the drain is adding to the pain. 🤣
Next, add a lead-replacement additive.
Removing the ethanol drops the octane rating down from ~87 to 83 - 84. I found that adding (quality) octane booster added about $3.80 per gallon to bring the octane back up to 88. I have access to non-ethanol 91 octane gasoline in the nearby town for less than the added cost of extracting the ethanol. Your're also losing 10% of your fuel when you do the extraction on E10 gas.
i just start with premium. so ends up being 89-91 octane. plus i just use ethanol free for storing motors longer than 4 months. actually running a regularly used engine with ethanol seems to create no issues for me.
@@ct1762 Creates no issues for anyone except the naysayers. I've been running all my classic vehicles on Ethanol blended fuel since the UK introduced it in 2008, with no issues. The latest blended fuel introduced 1 year ago now contains up to 10% ethanol, but the naysayers claimed it destroyed their engines on the day it was introduced, even though it was introduced in accordance with all the vehicle manufacturers specs.
@@thra5herxb12s I've talked with plenty of so called ''naysayers'.
It doesn't seem to affect everything, but the increase in number of problems with small and old engine's fuel systems definitely corresponds with the introduction of ethanol. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....it's not likely to be a donkey...even when the BBC news says it is..!
I think you will find that if the pump you are using at your ethanol free station is a single pipe type you are pumping in 1/2 gallon of 10% before the pump line is ethanol free if it was used for 10% the time before you used it. Just do an ethanol check on your fuel.
@@453421abcdefg12345 That is very possible for the type of pumping set up you described. The filling station I get non-ethanol gasoline from is a free standing pump that is isolated from the other pumps. It's an old style dial pump, no electronics. It's funny watching the gas jockey trying to figure out the charge without the pump telling him.
Water sinks, petrol, an oil derivative, floats. So, it's water at the bottom. Couldn't you fit a tap of some kind to the bottle top, then turn it upside down and drain off the water/ethanol mix leaving the fuel in the bottle and maybe burn the ethanol later to dispose of it?
Very good tip would probably be useful for my old atco and lister d type engines
Excellent! Now I have a way to get alcohol when the pub is closed
Lol.. indeed 🤣🤣
On that Ethanol video you did 3 years ago back now. If you take poly PEX plastic clear line one shorter than the other one to set above the ethanol jelly and water at the bottom of the patrol unleaded fuel in the two liter.,or two litre plastic bottle drill two holes the same.,or about the same size for A snug fit of the lines to push through the cap twist it back on to the bottle full of fuel.,an etc. blow slightly into the shorter line to prime your hose to let drain into your one to store the ethanol free fuel in to use.
Great job showing and telling, keep up the good work learning I am thanks see you next time see ya bye.
The ethanol has a higher octane rating then petrol, so you may want to add some octane booster to make up the difference.
Do you have to be carefull what plastic container you use.. petrol melts some plastics. So when you leave it for a night it will be a melted mess when you return?
I wonder what you can do with the ethanol, make Moonshine maybe ?
Bad idea! 🤣
Good video, well demonstrated...
But all that messing about, then lowering octane level, then adding octane booster back to it..
I put e10 in my bike, its already made my fuel tap leak.. So it definitely eats away at fuel lines etc..
Il just buy shell vpower from now on
what a good tip many thanks mate
What a great work around 👏👏. I have no use for it personally. But it's going to be great use for those people
who are looking for a way out of the situation. As you said people put taps on containers and drain it. I think
I would use a Demi Jar (from home brew kit)Cork bung with a tap or hose with a tap. It's clear and It's strong.
Just needs a frame to hold it in while in use.
Yes to be honest I got a metal 5 gallon tank with a drain tap I use. But you can't see through it for a video. I just drain it off into a jar until petrol starts to flow. I been using it in my ride on for a few weeks now to make sure it was OK before I made a video about it. Thanks for watching.
A few years ago a local station sold regular gas that had over 35 percent alcohol. Many loggers and other chainsaw users ruined many of their saws by running that gas. One outfit lost a dozen 1000 dollar saws. I had one quit, decided i hadn't mixed the oil in, added more oil and started another saw which i noticed was overheating and shut it down but too late. I have been removing the alcohol from all fuel for small engines ever since.
2 uploads in one evening,great stuff.👍
Wait for it. A 3rd one uploading now. Lol.. all filmed today so been a busy day.
I hope you keep your Fire Insurance up to date.....
A cheap PTFE separatory funnel with a stand would save loads of hassle.
Would it be better if you did it twice?😮
Watch out for the petrol vapour and sparks from the pump or power supply. Make sure it’s well ventilated or boom…..
ow yes. safety first sir.
Don't forget you have now reduced the octane rating and also washed out the detergents and some of the other additives that modern petrol contains. For lawn mower use it is cheaper to just use the super unleaded E5 petrol as you have reduced the E10 petrol by 10% and E5 is only something like seven and a half percent more expensive.
how does ethanol contain detergents its alcohol? id think the detergents would be left in the gasoline?
@@ct1762 Detergent mix with water, in fact they work by bonding to water at one end of the molecule and oil grease etc at the other end so the detergent and some petrol will wash out as well as the alcohol. If you want non ethanol petrol it better to get some aspen4.
@@Equiluxe1 Aspen4 is more than double the price though. Have just priced up 5litres of it and with a 5% discount it is £20.50p +VAT and on Amazon it is £7.37 per litre or £36.85p per gallon.
Cheaper to buy the 5% stuff at the pump.
@@JonDingle But you do not need fuel stabiliser or "T oil and it can be left in the machines over winter without any trouble with rotted diaphragm's etc.
Thinking a siphon should work instead of the pump?
Wouldn’t it be easier just to remove the water first
What is the ratio of gas & water? How to make a pump like yours?
Super, thanks
Great info, and good to know, but for your information, a US company called ‘ Mister Funnel’ makes a hydrophobic funnel that automatically filters out any water and ethanol in your petrol. So it cuts out most of the rigmarole.
ow. I wonder if we have such a device over hear?? I must look.
They don’t remove ethanol …
They don’t remove the ethanol. They remove water, but once the ethanol bonds to the water, it is no longer just water so the mr funnel just pi55es through. (Ask me how I know!)
How did the ethanol free petrol perform ,, any noticeable difference ?
Well I Bern using it in my John Deere ride on mower and its been perfect.
How can you work with all that crap on your bench?
Trust me the state of my sheds anoy me to. Lol..
Very interesting
Works well mate. I did try it about a month ago with 5 gallons. Used it in my ride on to make sure it was OK before I filmed it.
What do you do with the ethanol after removing it from the petrol?
Despose of it the same place as your waste oil. Suppose you could tip it under a Bush but that's not really the right thing to do.
Hev Yew Gotta Loight, Boy? BOOM.
Does the petrol not absorb any of the water? A quick test would be to use a pipette and drip some on a hot pan and see if it spits or just evaporates
Petrol is oil, it doesnt absorb water, the oil floats on top. Ethanol is alcohol which is water based. It sinks to the bottom.
What do you do with the ethanol once you have a whole bucket full.
I personally put it in my waste oil drum and its get collected.
@@NorfolkMancave Waste oil goes in my diesel car strained through a sock with a bit of fresh diesel. Ethanol is very combustible, I run all my engines on it.
What do you do with the waste ethanol?
Dispose of it how you wish. You can just despose of it like waste oil. Thanks for watching. This method works a treat.
E 10 just ruins your engines
No it isn't in the top layer, it in the water. The top layer is excess petrol.
Do you have a light please ? 🧨🧨🧨
😆 🤣 😂
I wouldn't recommend putting it in your car .
Where do you dispose of the ethanol contaminated water, I assume it’s poison in the water table and the earth. Thanks borris for poisoning my classic car and motorcycle. Motorists are also voters let’s not forget that.
I personally put it in with my waste oil and its collected.
I'm sure the idiots will be pouring it down the sink.
Can't you just pour it on some firewood in a firepit and light it??