No its mostly lmgs a less overkill and weapons a less on point when shooting from shoulder Perspektive so the whole jump shotting zig zagging will be a Problem still because all the sweaty basement dwellers still be cancer because there in first person when shooting
@@pittsburghraiderwhy are you crying about movement? The movement in this game is amazing and works well when you have some jack4ss camping with an LMG using a jammer. You should maybe learn to level up your skills before asking for it to be nerfed because you are clearly not good enough to cope with different skill sets.
@@MrPragmatism what kind of trip you running buddy i just responded to the guy here that the whole zig zag jump shotting is still gonna be the same Problem because the people he got a Problem with go first person to jump or zig zag shoot not shoulder Perspektive how many make the mistake of thinking is the same pinpoint aim i never complained about lmg campers with jammers or anything else i just merely responded to the fella if i had a Problem in this game its the cronus users the hackers and the oh so lovely m2e be toxic and racist towards anyone and never get banned clan which i mean as sweaty basement dwellers incase ya wondering
Dear administrators, where is the logic in manufacturing consumables one at a time, since they limited the quantity to carry in the backpack, you could at least increase the quantity of manufacturing as it is senseless to have one at a time and a waste of time.
Getting knives and crossbow kills were nearly impossible for me but with the new knive mechanics I've been getting a few knive kills and now im definetly taking the crossbow into the outlands.
@@Nym-v4l they added a new mechanic last season were u can swing the knife from upper left to bottom right. Were before it was just one direction from upper right to bottom left.
@@Nym-v4l the knife combat got reworked. Instead of doing a slow slash, your character will keep chopping away at what your aiming at as long as you have stamina. And higher tier knives have stun lock. So melee weapons are super helpful now.
This sounds great! Can you guys do an update video about weapon plans and how to get them? I’d love to try out all the weapons but can’t seem to get any plans as a new player.
you don’t need crowns spam eliminations get good get lucky with teams u build up crates very fast plans from crates sometimes best I’ve gotten is the sw-sh revolver
I'm an OG have been playing vigor since beta, yes the new system sucks, but I highly recommend getting your rat traps to level 10 before anything else, yes even your workbench and start donating every week. Upon reaching 10000 save the rest of your food for next week, you'll get all 5 crates at the end of the week.
@@MrPragmatism I've been playing since before battle pass came out dude. Why you getting toxic? Just figure out how to do it instead of quitting when something changes like a sheepish baby.
@@dillyjoeroasting2306 how was i toxic? The game is easier now in terms of recoil control and the update has given campers more power as aggressive players can no longer push like they used to. Please tell me how i was toxic? Take it easy just a bit 😂
This may be a change that we've been needing for a long time! I just don't like how fast a PC port was released before giving the day 1 player bases the proper updates we deserve
I'll give you alot of credit Vigor Devs. I can tell that you have thought very hard about this adjustments. its all makes sense and look forward to the adjustments on all the weapons. Hopefully LMG players will slow them down and wont be able to run around with ease and clear lobbies. Sounds good on the adjusting of objects and materials to shoot thru. Hopefully you didn't miss anything. Its really annoying when you cant shoot thru the object infront of you but the other player can shoot thru it. Thank you! I do hope you have a more exciting Season 20 coming up.
5:42 how is it logical and clear, that M14 firing 7.62×51mm has less base damage than M4A1 firing 5.56×45mm (30 vs 36) and at the same time Gevehr 3 firing same 7.62×51 has base damage 40. It's awful to see devs moving away from realism towards arcade
Sounds good, but please make knifes usable, besides the improvement with windows and barricades, please make it that you can actually do some good damage with them
Hi all. So I've been playing this build/overhaul for a month now & it most certainly is a huge change. Although it's somewhat stifled the way I used to play the game I still feel that the overhaul will be met with approval from the mass majority of players. Things that were asked for have been added/fixed in terms of weapon weight and handling. The weapon classes and indeed individual guns now all have a unique feel and even importance to them now which wasnt possible under the old system. As time goes on maybe there will be tweaks and changes but it most certainly is a major change and something I am still a month later trying to adapt the way I play around. That said, at the 2:30 min mark - filip talks about when switching to a side arm sometimes instead of reloading a primary .. I'd like too - but - since swapping weapons seems to be hard coded to mouse wheel scroll and I cant unbind it I am unable to bring two weapons into an encounter as my scroll wheel is very sensitive and I fat finger it at the worst times when I do not want to at all causing me to have an improper weapon out when I least want it. it also forces me to try and delete guns in shootouts when I loot a body or when I spawn in with a gun & knife combo. If you could please give us the option to unbind weapon swapping on the scroll wheel that would be amazing as I havent found any other work around inside of neither windows or my mouse software. It's good you guys put out this video so that the players can finally see the changes in store very soon. it's a major change and will change how many play the game and I look forward to seeing all the players under one united build/weapon system
if anyone reading this knows a solution/work around to my mouse wheel binding issue plzzzzz lemme know. right now it's maybe my biggest frustration with the pc build lol
also wanna add that it's good to see the new feature of the knives, being able to open barred house and windows faster pointed out. It's a neat feature and I feel the developers can really expand on this and give the knife even more functionality as time goes on - some things I would suggest would be giving knives the ability to lock/unlock map exits, bypass the "numbers" on the locked container allowing each lock to be opened with a simple hold interaction like a window for example, holding a knife while looting a vehicle could bypass the alarms set off by various vehicles when you loot them, if you go up to a telephone and interact with a knife and there's an on-going phone duel between two outlanders you would then "hack" into it becoming the third person on the "party call" , using a knife on the timed safe buttons could bypass the "time limit" between flipping both switches ... the knife can have a lot of function/utility IMHO and speeding up barred house was a great start .. I hope it's expanded upon even further someday. :)
Its awful. All guns seem the same, before each gun had its own character and recoil was tough to control. This update basically makes it so you dont really need to practice with a specific gun, you can just jump in and not really have to learn recoil patterns. Its basically made the game easier. They should revert back.
@@enzocaststream oh yes i see what you mean, movement has been nerfed yes and the recoil has clearly been adjusted to the point where it is much easier to control. These changes further confirm why Vigor is going down hill and losing popularity.
You better get this out on console quick, im not giving empathy for your "troubled" development, and ignore all the dumbasses in the comment section that aren't being critical, I don't know what made you think that relegating the early stages of the rework the the tiny playerbase of PC rather than allowing console players to experience it was a good idea I have played this game for 1900 hours and so far this is the only season which I have had no reason to play the game
you mentioned strapping an armour plate on - I'd love to - but after many many hours (several hundred maybe more), still haven't got a blueprint. any tips on how to get one? it's kind of bad when i die in a gunfight cos the enemy all armoured up and im not. i think in the interest of fairness to all players, the armour blueprint is the one thing everyone should have access to.
I'm sorry but once you get it you will start demanding the adrenaline plan too, it never ends with this game because everything is locked behind a pay wall and gambling through supply drops .
Great. Weapon movement always felt awkward, I really like this game, hope this makes me come back again 👌🏻 Now that you are making overhauls, how about a complete movement twek, Ive always think we could run a little bit faster since that is our only way of travel, and also when are you guys going next gen?
Hi there, we're not working on a movement tweak or the new-gen update at the moment. We hope that you'll enjoy the Weapon Overhaul, and the changes connected to movement that we've done with it 🍅
Now that I saw this I was wondering why the akm was nerfed I noticed many guns operate differently and now I will relearn them and rush a sweaty with sweat moved and probably get hot shotted lol
1. Adrenaline should be taken back into the abyss, having smoother running mechanics should be something for all players and not locked behind consumables. This is coming from someone who has 300 adrenaline shots without paying a single dime on the game. 2. Invisible walls in Aniken both Encounter and Elimination maps, there's an invisible wall on a hill in the middle village in Aniken Encounter, and there's another one in Aniken Elimination that gives the opposite team a high ground advantage, they can climb their's but you can't climb your's. 3. Pistols are currently just filler they serve no purpose, the damage is way too low and the fire rate isn't trigger sensitive. 4. Way too many "weapon overhauls" which leaves the displayed stat bar in an inaccurate state. 5. XP needed for leveling up should not go up every time you level up, there is no point in gaining XP boosts when the XP needed gets doubled or tripled etc... this only keeps the people with no pass from finishing it unless they grind their butts off everyday and keeps the ones who bought it on their toes 24/7 afraid of not being able to finish it. 6. You should go back to the "Days passed" instead of using the backwards system of "second term of the season" since gaining XP is way too hard I'd like to know exactly how many days I have left to plan ahead, waking up to the last term is a horror show and only displays the greed you're getting to, as it only benefits you since if somebody is unable to finish it there's a higher chance he'll buy the cosmetic with currency separately from the store. 7. To keep the player attached to your game you should reward him for coming back daily, or at least make him feel that he is progressing, the current base building requirements are way too much and resources are scarce which makes you reach the state of stalemate as there's no way I'm gaining back 4,000 chemicals in 3 days when I just spent 3,XXX on an upgrade that took me more than 2 weeks to accumulate. It becomes tedious and a stalemate. I'd really appreciate to get a reply
Why its imposible to get wappon-colors with playing/killing? In every game i can get colors when i killed people whit the gun. In vigor i must pay… In vigor i must for all pay
I’ll admit, this has intrigued me. It has peeked my interest in Vigor once again. I once loved this game, then hated it, and now.. I’m in the middle. If you all continue down the path of realism instead of arcade then Vigor can truly be revitalized. I know you all hate criticism, and I get it I would too if I worked hard on something and people hated on it, but criticism should be the motivation to improve and give direction to do better. I will reinstall the game and give my opinion where needs be. Maybe, just maybe, me and all the other veterans may return and enjoy the game once more..
Dont waste your time, they ruined the game. A overhaul was never needed, this is aimed at new players as Philip mentioned at the start of the video. They dont care about your opinion as a console player and this is evident with how they implemented the beta to only PC and not once asked the console player base. All that was needed was tweaks to certain guns, namely LMGs that were way OP but instead they made this game a pure campfest now as you cant run anywhere without your stamina depleting unless you taking max adrenaline+caffeine in each encounter. A borefest is what they have created with this season update.
@@MrPragmatism I have videos on my channel you can watch for reference, and I have a slower methodical play style. I don’t camp, but I play smart and scout areas before pushing in and use my loadouts strengths like long range and short range. At first I’ll admit I hated the stamina change, but now I’m using to it. You don’t have to run constantly to do good and clear lobbies. I just jog around like normal and do just find. As for players camping it’s always been a thing and at the same time it’s a play style so whether we like it not that’s just how some people play. It’s not just a Vigor thing campers exist in every BR/extraction shooter. I’ve played Vigor for years and have well over 5,000 hours in the game.. I’ve gotta say I like how they’ve finally decided to slow the game down. Although we may disagree on that, but that’s fine.
@@KornbreadTV thanks bro, i checked but it seems you haven’t posted in 6months bar your most recent video? You are right, every game has camping and I have no issue with that at all, my issue is that the weapon overhaul has changed the core game mechanics to a point where it has given campers and non aggressive players a ten fold advantage, i mean they always had the advantage pre S20 but this has increased that advantage and simultaneously this has impacted how aggressive players play this game to a point where you simply cant play aggressively unless you take max caffeine+adrenaline in every game. Since this season, the camping has gotten worse and this is all down to the changes. Most games are borefests now.
@@MrPragmatism Yeah, I took a break 6 months ago, and since then I’ve started a new channel (not posted on there yet) because this channel has multiple copyright violations and I want to start a brand channel instead of a hobby channel, ya know? I get what you’re saying, but my friends that are super aggressive players always bring max plates, adrenaline, caffeine, etc. and do just fine. I’m not saying you’re a bad player or anything, but they have adjusted to the new movement system. Of course, they aren’t full sprinting like they used to be, but they are still zig zagging, jump shotting, and all the other dumb stuff sweats do. They are my friends and I love them to death, but I will make fun of the way they play the game same as they make fun of the way I play the game. Even though I’m almost always the last one alive 😂 my best advice would be try to adjust. Use your 3rd person camera to peek around corners before pushing the area, use jammers to see if someone is camping in the area, and stuff like that. Jammers have saved my ass many of times when I’m out of ports.
@@KornbreadTV Zig zag and jump shots have been nerfed massively anyone that knows how to use this skill consistently will tell you the same, i dont play this game anymore since S20 as i dont like the changes and i feel the game is going in the wrong direction. Sure i could adjust if i wanted but thats not my point, my point is that the changes to the core mechanics of this game will only be a detriment. Bringing in max adrenaline, caffeine etc is not the answer either. This is essentially Pay to win concept unless you grinded for a long time and have enough stacked. My point is that the update has given the campers and non aggressive players an even bigger advantage over those that will push and play aggressively, you simply do not have the agility with movement like you used to, running and jumping will deplete your stamina far too quickly, this of course does not impact the campers or players that like to use jammers and not play aggressively because they generally will not push like that.
Yo, been playing a month and got 50, lots of weapons consumables etc and burnt out, only just learnt about the legacy season thing ? Why would you take that away, I'm having to stop playing now as I have nothing to grind, to know a solution to this was actually available literally before i found the game is a deffo "bruh" moment lol
But the longevity of the game will fade, I do this for a living; specifically SEO, and the amount of businesses who do this might get slightly more in the short term but customers will get frustrated and leave so long term wise it's a nuke lol, I hope somebody in their marketing actually reads this, because whoever made that decision should be fired😂
Hey vigor! I like your game a ton but I feel like these seasons recently have been pretty dry, I feel like you guys should add more shelter improvements and levels so theres more to grind for. You could also add new resources to get (not too hard). The best thing this year I've seen right now is the new shootout map which I like. It would be a wonderful QOL that old and new players would like. After all just shooting people after getting every upgrade can get boring!
Wow! That's great! Can we play with friends on steam now? That would be great, thank you! :) Should have stuck to console until the game was more ready for a PC port.
Is this why the game keep crashing? Because ya finally working on it? Why not a heads up so we're all aware and understanding. This is why we're the way we are with ya. Lack of communication!!!
Who about adding the semi auto fire mo to de SPAS-12, programers ALWAYS pass this FACT about the SPAS-12, than it can be fire in pump action and in semi auto mode. Alos the Steyr AUG don't have fire mides, but the pull of the trigger it's fire selector, so if we pull the trigger gently, it's fire semi auto, and if we pull harder its fire full auto.
Je fais des vidéos sur Vigor en Français et mon anglais n'est pas fou.. Quelqu'un pour me faire un petit résumé ? (j'ai compris se qui est écrit sur la vidéo mais je ne comprend pas se qu'il raconte 😅
There are more people cheating now than ever since "all these fixes and updates", and thats if the game actually works. They are changing nothing, a game that could be better than COD but is trash because they want to put energy into skins more than maps, but dont worry they will put out a machete 😂
The games shooting mechanics were fine before you buffed LMGs all those years ago and now you have made things exponentially worse with this update. The guns no longer feel unique and movement is now awful. You cant jump or drop shot either, why are you implementing changes on things that require skill? I will finish this season and if you don’t revert back to a real shooting system like season 19 then it will be time to say goodbye.
Que buenos sois, con la de problemas que tiene el juego como son los chetos amplias a jugadores de pc sois unos genios con la jugabilidad tan mala que tiene jugar en consola con mando se nos suma ahora jugadores con teclado y ratón en pc
@@AngryHoboJR PLEASE LEAVE!! Nobody is gonna miss a crybaby lmg tryhard lmao. We already got enough crybabies and enough lmg tryhards. We don’t need a mega queer lol
Please combine the platforms, there are no players in the pc version, huge vigor, the current number of players in the pc version is 60, we cannot play the game, please take action, do not waste the most beautiful game in the world.
what about nades that go boom not poof make mortars blow up houses blow out walls bullets bust out glass every thing explodable this game feels outdated maps seem dull and boring
I don't think these are realistic expectations. Especially destructible buildings. Almost no game does this. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this but I don't think the team wants to deliver something like that or maybe they lack the resources.
@@AngryHoboJRI know he meant like rainbow six throw a c4 on a ceiling and kill a guy and the floor breaks etc. there has to be a crack in the glass for me to shoot through it sometimes. Maybe a mortar can bust out the windows or a door and now there's no need to open that window anymore I can jump in not holding X to get shot in the back or a house door open I run in and dude camping behind the door..waiting. So I get what he's saying but also take into account we're just one person each. Would take a lot of us recommending this during a live stream.
5 blood splatters, 5 bullet hits and ZERO hit markers. Absolutely trash now. You have destroyed vigor. Wont be playing again meaning no more money from me. Great work guys
Chapters:
0:00 intro
0:30 Why do a weapon overhaul?
0:42 Weapon ergonomics
0:54 high ergonomics characteristics
0:59 low ergonomics characteristics
1:13 how ergonomics impacts gameplay
2:07 goal of ergonomics
2:29 sidearms
2:39 long distance movement suggestions
2:56 assault rifles
3:17 pistols and SMGs
3:39 machine guns
4:01 other weapon categories
4:08 factors impacted by ergonomics
4:19 gameplay balancing
4:25 damage over distance
4:32 crossbow projectile drop
4:50 pistol and SMG ideal range
5:22 damage calculation rework
5:47 bullet penetration
6:43 factors that were evaluated for the weapon overall
7:19 minor changes
7:26 crossbow changes
7:51 crosshair options
8:14 iron sights
8:27 melee changes
8:59 icons rework
9:12 other changes
9:24 shootout and elimination loadout changes
9:37 recap
10:04 outro
Not all heroes wear capes ... This is great for anyone looking to quickly browse through the video. ❤
Thank you stranger
Does this mean you’re finally nerfing jump-shooting and zig zagging? … you know.. the things players have been asking for for years…
I hope so
No its mostly lmgs a less overkill and weapons a less on point when shooting from shoulder Perspektive so the whole jump shotting zig zagging will be a Problem still because all the sweaty basement dwellers still be cancer because there in first person when shooting
@@pittsburghraiderwhy are you crying about movement? The movement in this game is amazing and works well when you have some jack4ss camping with an LMG using a jammer. You should maybe learn to level up your skills before asking for it to be nerfed because you are clearly not good enough to cope with different skill sets.
@@MrPragmatism what kind of trip you running buddy i just responded to the guy here that the whole zig zag jump shotting is still gonna be the same Problem because the people he got a Problem with go first person to jump or zig zag shoot not shoulder Perspektive how many make the mistake of thinking is the same pinpoint aim i never complained about lmg campers with jammers or anything else i just merely responded to the fella if i had a Problem in this game its the cronus users the hackers and the oh so lovely m2e be toxic and racist towards anyone and never get banned clan which i mean as sweaty basement dwellers incase ya wondering
@@MrPragmatismthis guy gets it
His opening line should have been "hello viggers!"
Missed opportunity
Dear administrators, where is the logic in manufacturing consumables one at a time, since they limited the quantity to carry in the backpack, you could at least increase the quantity of manufacturing as it is senseless to have one at a time and a waste of time.
This game is beautiful and practically perfect, if they made a place where we could leave our ideas this game would be but ufff
Getting knives and crossbow kills were nearly impossible for me but with the new knive mechanics I've been getting a few knive kills and now im definetly taking the crossbow into the outlands.
Did they changed it already?
@@Nym-v4l they added a new mechanic last season were u can swing the knife from upper left to bottom right. Were before it was just one direction from upper right to bottom left.
@@MrRock2fun I still havent tried the crossbow so idk.
@@Nym-v4l the knife combat got reworked. Instead of doing a slow slash, your character will keep chopping away at what your aiming at as long as you have stamina. And higher tier knives have stun lock. So melee weapons are super helpful now.
Yes. Defi wanting to take the crossbow out more now too! See yall in the Outlands you scaled threats ! Lol
This sounds great! Can you guys do an update video about weapon plans and how to get them? I’d love to try out all the weapons but can’t seem to get any plans as a new player.
Crowns spent in store nowadays my friend you missed the good days when you would get plans for putting the time in
A moment of silence for Legacy Seasons 😔
you don’t need crowns spam eliminations get good get lucky with teams u build up crates very fast plans from crates sometimes best I’ve gotten is the sw-sh revolver
I'm an OG have been playing vigor since beta, yes the new system sucks, but I highly recommend getting your rat traps to level 10 before anything else, yes even your workbench and start donating every week. Upon reaching 10000 save the rest of your food for next week, you'll get all 5 crates at the end of the week.
I hope the P,M pistol is now more usable.
The piss machine 😂
Weapon overhaul? Interesting. Seems good.
Thank you for the kind words. 🍅The Weapon Overhaul is already available on PC, and it will be coming to consoles soon.
This is what we needed. This is the comeback of vigor
Sounds like things are more on point. I’m looking forward to seeing what happens next.
Still waiting for the weapon plan drop rate to increase
Sounds Great! When does it come to consoles?
👀
It's coming soon. We will share more info about that once everything is confirmed. 🍅
The wappon overhall is the maincontent of the next season 😂
I love everything about the overhaul. Just needs bug fixes but you knew that already. Thanks for the good work
You love the overhaul that made so many players quit? I guess they made the game easier which is why you like it 😅
@@MrPragmatism I've been playing since before battle pass came out dude. Why you getting toxic? Just figure out how to do it instead of quitting when something changes like a sheepish baby.
@@dillyjoeroasting2306 how was i toxic? The game is easier now in terms of recoil control and the update has given campers more power as aggressive players can no longer push like they used to. Please tell me how i was toxic? Take it easy just a bit 😂
@@dillyjoeroasting2306 oh i get it! you must be one of those people that label comments that dont fit your narrative as toxic 👍
@@MrPragmatism your a baby stop cryin
Finally!
I'm looking forward to learning it all again when you guys update.
Thank you
This may be a change that we've been needing for a long time! I just don't like how fast a PC port was released before giving the day 1 player bases the proper updates we deserve
All good stuff can’t wait to see how it turns out was hopping to hear weapon attachments coming but I’ll just keep hoping.
Weapon Overhaul: “Hi, I’m weapon overhaul… I’m kind of a BIG DEAL.” 😂
Thank God, you finally did something for this game 🎉
I'll give you alot of credit Vigor Devs. I can tell that you have thought very hard about this adjustments. its all makes sense and look forward to the adjustments on all the weapons. Hopefully LMG players will slow them down and wont be able to run around with ease and clear lobbies. Sounds good on the adjusting of objects and materials to shoot thru. Hopefully you didn't miss anything. Its really annoying when you cant shoot thru the object infront of you but the other player can shoot thru it. Thank you! I do hope you have a more exciting Season 20 coming up.
5:42 how is it logical and clear, that M14 firing 7.62×51mm has less base damage than M4A1 firing 5.56×45mm (30 vs 36) and at the same time Gevehr 3 firing same 7.62×51 has base damage 40. It's awful to see devs moving away from realism towards arcade
Sounds good, but please make knifes usable, besides the improvement with windows and barricades, please make it that you can actually do some good damage with them
Hi all. So I've been playing this build/overhaul for a month now & it most certainly is a huge change. Although it's somewhat stifled the way I used to play the game I still feel that the overhaul will be met with approval from the mass majority of players. Things that were asked for have been added/fixed in terms of weapon weight and handling. The weapon classes and indeed individual guns now all have a unique feel and even importance to them now which wasnt possible under the old system. As time goes on maybe there will be tweaks and changes but it most certainly is a major change and something I am still a month later trying to adapt the way I play around.
That said, at the 2:30 min mark - filip talks about when switching to a side arm sometimes instead of reloading a primary .. I'd like too - but - since swapping weapons seems to be hard coded to mouse wheel scroll and I cant unbind it I am unable to bring two weapons into an encounter as my scroll wheel is very sensitive and I fat finger it at the worst times when I do not want to at all causing me to have an improper weapon out when I least want it. it also forces me to try and delete guns in shootouts when I loot a body or when I spawn in with a gun & knife combo. If you could please give us the option to unbind weapon swapping on the scroll wheel that would be amazing as I havent found any other work around inside of neither windows or my mouse software.
It's good you guys put out this video so that the players can finally see the changes in store very soon. it's a major change and will change how many play the game and I look forward to seeing all the players under one united build/weapon system
if anyone reading this knows a solution/work around to my mouse wheel binding issue plzzzzz lemme know. right now it's maybe my biggest frustration with the pc build lol
also wanna add that it's good to see the new feature of the knives, being able to open barred house and windows faster pointed out. It's a neat feature and I feel the developers can really expand on this and give the knife even more functionality as time goes on - some things I would suggest would be giving knives the ability to lock/unlock map exits, bypass the "numbers" on the locked container allowing each lock to be opened with a simple hold interaction like a window for example, holding a knife while looting a vehicle could bypass the alarms set off by various vehicles when you loot them, if you go up to a telephone and interact with a knife and there's an on-going phone duel between two outlanders you would then "hack" into it becoming the third person on the "party call" , using a knife on the timed safe buttons could bypass the "time limit" between flipping both switches ... the knife can have a lot of function/utility IMHO and speeding up barred house was a great start .. I hope it's expanded upon even further someday. :)
Can we craft stacks of consumables at once and ping in the firing range
I guess my only question is this weapons overhaul still just in PC test servers still?
Why is it so hard to get weapon plans out of crates now 😢
So there is no bulletdrop anymore ? only the crossbow?
I've been waiting on this for over two years - I hope this is implemented good.
Its awful. All guns seem the same, before each gun had its own character and recoil was tough to control. This update basically makes it so you dont really need to practice with a specific gun, you can just jump in and not really have to learn recoil patterns. Its basically made the game easier. They should revert back.
@@MrPragmatism I think this update was about the movement and not about addressing recoil within each gun.
@@enzocaststream this video title is called ‘Weapon Overhaul’ - where is movement mentioned?
@@MrPragmatism 3:26 - and the ergonomics or each weapon effects that overall
@@enzocaststream oh yes i see what you mean, movement has been nerfed yes and the recoil has clearly been adjusted to the point where it is much easier to control. These changes further confirm why Vigor is going down hill and losing popularity.
You better get this out on console quick, im not giving empathy for your "troubled" development, and ignore all the dumbasses in the comment section that aren't being critical, I don't know what made you think that relegating the early stages of the rework the the tiny playerbase of PC rather than allowing console players to experience it was a good idea
I have played this game for 1900 hours and so far this is the only season which I have had no reason to play the game
Did you fix the bear traps 😮
When is this going into effect?
I'm always scared when a game I enjoy tweaks this much of the mechanics at once but I'm excited to see how it goes
Hi, weapon overhaul is already live on PC Early Access - we will be implementing it for consoles after the full release 🍅
you mentioned strapping an armour plate on - I'd love to - but after many many hours (several hundred maybe more), still haven't got a blueprint. any tips on how to get one? it's kind of bad when i die in a gunfight cos the enemy all armoured up and im not. i think in the interest of fairness to all players, the armour blueprint is the one thing everyone should have access to.
I'm sorry but once you get it you will start demanding the adrenaline plan too, it never ends with this game because everything is locked behind a pay wall and gambling through supply drops .
You can buy the plan, I think it is like 700
Is bullet drop removed, what??
I don't understand that decision
do you get the kill for radiation grenades?
No
Hi there, unfortunately not. We have looked into it, but it is no technically possible at the moment. 🍅
Hey guys, when will these changes go live?
Hi there, they are already live on PC, they will be released on consoles soon. 🍅
Great. Weapon movement always felt awkward, I really like this game, hope this makes me come back again 👌🏻
Now that you are making overhauls, how about a complete movement twek, Ive always think we could run a little bit faster since that is our only way of travel, and also when are you guys going next gen?
Hi there, we're not working on a movement tweak or the new-gen update at the moment. We hope that you'll enjoy the Weapon Overhaul, and the changes connected to movement that we've done with it 🍅
This is awesome thank you all, Very excited to play this!
We're happy to hear that, Outlander 💪 thank you! 🍅
Now that I saw this I was wondering why the akm was nerfed I noticed many guns operate differently and now I will relearn them and rush a sweaty with sweat moved and probably get hot shotted lol
I left the game over a year ago, but these changes if done right might just save this game
1. Adrenaline should be taken back into the abyss, having smoother running mechanics should be something for all players and not locked behind consumables. This is coming from someone who has 300 adrenaline shots without paying a single dime on the game.
2. Invisible walls in Aniken both Encounter and Elimination maps, there's an invisible wall on a hill in the middle village in Aniken Encounter, and there's another one in Aniken Elimination that gives the opposite team a high ground advantage, they can climb their's but you can't climb your's.
3. Pistols are currently just filler they serve no purpose, the damage is way too low and the fire rate isn't trigger sensitive.
4. Way too many "weapon overhauls" which leaves the displayed stat bar in an inaccurate state.
5. XP needed for leveling up should not go up every time you level up, there is no point in gaining XP boosts when the XP needed gets doubled or tripled etc... this only keeps the people with no pass from finishing it unless they grind their butts off everyday and keeps the ones who bought it on their toes 24/7 afraid of not being able to finish it.
6. You should go back to the "Days passed" instead of using the backwards system of "second term of the season" since gaining XP is way too hard I'd like to know exactly how many days I have left to plan ahead, waking up to the last term is a horror show and only displays the greed you're getting to, as it only benefits you since if somebody is unable to finish it there's a higher chance he'll buy the cosmetic with currency separately from the store.
7. To keep the player attached to your game you should reward him for coming back daily, or at least make him feel that he is progressing, the current base building requirements are way too much and resources are scarce which makes you reach the state of stalemate as there's no way I'm gaining back 4,000 chemicals in 3 days when I just spent 3,XXX on an upgrade that took me more than 2 weeks to accumulate. It becomes tedious and a stalemate.
I'd really appreciate to get a reply
The cross hair options does not work on xbox! Any explanation why it does not work??
its not out until tomorrow
Why its imposible to get wappon-colors with playing/killing?
In every game i can get colors when i killed people whit the gun. In vigor i must pay…
In vigor i must for all pay
You do know you don’t have to pay.
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Really? U dont understand what i mean?
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@@Koka-MannNo because you you're illiterate, Sorry.
I’ll admit, this has intrigued me. It has peeked my interest in Vigor once again. I once loved this game, then hated it, and now.. I’m in the middle. If you all continue down the path of realism instead of arcade then Vigor can truly be revitalized. I know you all hate criticism, and I get it I would too if I worked hard on something and people hated on it, but criticism should be the motivation to improve and give direction to do better.
I will reinstall the game and give my opinion where needs be. Maybe, just maybe, me and all the other veterans may return and enjoy the game once more..
Dont waste your time, they ruined the game.
A overhaul was never needed, this is aimed at new players as Philip mentioned at the start of the video. They dont care about your opinion as a console player and this is evident with how they implemented the beta to only PC and not once asked the console player base.
All that was needed was tweaks to certain guns, namely LMGs that were way OP but instead they made this game a pure campfest now as you cant run anywhere without your stamina depleting unless you taking max adrenaline+caffeine in each encounter. A borefest is what they have created with this season update.
@@MrPragmatism I have videos on my channel you can watch for reference, and I have a slower methodical play style. I don’t camp, but I play smart and scout areas before pushing in and use my loadouts strengths like long range and short range. At first I’ll admit I hated the stamina change, but now I’m using to it. You don’t have to run constantly to do good and clear lobbies. I just jog around like normal and do just find. As for players camping it’s always been a thing and at the same time it’s a play style so whether we like it not that’s just how some people play. It’s not just a Vigor thing campers exist in every BR/extraction shooter. I’ve played Vigor for years and have well over 5,000 hours in the game.. I’ve gotta say I like how they’ve finally decided to slow the game down. Although we may disagree on that, but that’s fine.
@@KornbreadTV thanks bro, i checked but it seems you haven’t posted in 6months bar your most recent video?
You are right, every game has camping and I have no issue with that at all, my issue is that the weapon overhaul has changed the core game mechanics to a point where it has given campers and non aggressive players a ten fold advantage, i mean they always had the advantage pre S20 but this has increased that advantage and simultaneously this has impacted how aggressive players play this game to a point where you simply cant play aggressively unless you take max caffeine+adrenaline in every game.
Since this season, the camping has gotten worse and this is all down to the changes. Most games are borefests now.
@@MrPragmatism Yeah, I took a break 6 months ago, and since then I’ve started a new channel (not posted on there yet) because this channel has multiple copyright violations and I want to start a brand channel instead of a hobby channel, ya know?
I get what you’re saying, but my friends that are super aggressive players always bring max plates, adrenaline, caffeine, etc. and do just fine. I’m not saying you’re a bad player or anything, but they have adjusted to the new movement system. Of course, they aren’t full sprinting like they used to be, but they are still zig zagging, jump shotting, and all the other dumb stuff sweats do. They are my friends and I love them to death, but I will make fun of the way they play the game same as they make fun of the way I play the game. Even though I’m almost always the last one alive 😂 my best advice would be try to adjust. Use your 3rd person camera to peek around corners before pushing the area, use jammers to see if someone is camping in the area, and stuff like that. Jammers have saved my ass many of times when I’m out of ports.
@@KornbreadTV Zig zag and jump shots have been nerfed massively anyone that knows how to use this skill consistently will tell you the same, i dont play this game anymore since S20 as i dont like the changes and i feel the game is going in the wrong direction.
Sure i could adjust if i wanted but thats not my point, my point is that the changes to the core mechanics of this game will only be a detriment.
Bringing in max adrenaline, caffeine etc is not the answer either.
This is essentially Pay to win concept unless you grinded for a long time and have enough stacked.
My point is that the update has given the campers and non aggressive players an even bigger advantage over those that will push and play aggressively, you simply do not have the agility with movement like you used to, running and jumping will deplete your stamina far too quickly, this of course does not impact the campers or players that like to use jammers and not play aggressively because they generally will not push like that.
Very interesting changes!
Yo, been playing a month and got 50, lots of weapons consumables etc and burnt out, only just learnt about the legacy season thing ? Why would you take that away, I'm having to stop playing now as I have nothing to grind, to know a solution to this was actually available literally before i found the game is a deffo "bruh" moment lol
Because they want you to buy the cosmetic separately from the store while the price of it is the equivalent of the whole season pass it was in.
But the longevity of the game will fade, I do this for a living; specifically SEO, and the amount of businesses who do this might get slightly more in the short term but customers will get frustrated and leave so long term wise it's a nuke lol, I hope somebody in their marketing actually reads this, because whoever made that decision should be fired😂
@@EdenUptonnew
They haven't announced anything but this is my analogy, seems I was quite right.
Is this update live already? And does it come to consoles after pc? Just getting back into the game, and crossbow still shows 75 damage for me
tomorrow it will come out
@@tomatofjsw source if you don’t mind me asking?
The discord server and its out right now the servers came online
@@tomatofjsw thank you!
Is it possible to send crowns? Recently bought the biggest amount and a friend it's my friends birthday, i'de like to send him some
Did the weapon overhaul include changes made to console players?
tomorrow!!
ADS in FPV????
Console? When?
should have been a feature with the pc release... you missed your chance sadly.
Hi there, the Weapon Overhaul is available on PC already 🍅
Man you've been crying in the comments for months just come or go! You don't have to like everything.
Damn might be coming back to play
Hey vigor! I like your game a ton but I feel like these seasons recently have been pretty dry, I feel like you guys should add more shelter improvements and levels so theres more to grind for. You could also add new resources to get (not too hard). The best thing this year I've seen right now is the new shootout map which I like. It would be a wonderful QOL that old and new players would like. After all just shooting people after getting every upgrade can get boring!
I just hope they didn’t remove the athleticism from the game, for more experienced players 🙏
injustice, we are giving money for nothing
Double Xp?
We're currently making plans for our next Double XP event 💪 Stay tuned on our socials for info about upcoming dates 🍅
Wow! That's great! Can we play with friends on steam now? That would be great, thank you! :)
Should have stuck to console until the game was more ready for a PC port.
If u get shot in the leg it’s should be able to slow your speed down zig zagging should be nerf and jumping
So why is crossbow still useless
sounds good
Is this why the game keep crashing? Because ya finally working on it? Why not a heads up so we're all aware and understanding. This is why we're the way we are with ya. Lack of communication!!!
Hi there, unfortunately, that is a different issue. We are aware of it, and we hope we will be able to fix it as soon as possible. 🍅
Does vigor support mouse and keyboard on ps4 ??
Hei Outlander, there is currently no KBM support for Vigor on consoles 🍅
I beg u to make it cross platform 👏
Who about adding the semi auto fire mo to de SPAS-12, programers ALWAYS pass this FACT about the SPAS-12, than it can be fire in pump action and in semi auto mode. Alos the Steyr AUG don't have fire mides, but the pull of the trigger it's fire selector, so if we pull the trigger gently, it's fire semi auto, and if we pull harder its fire full auto.
Please add the ability to go on raids with friends. how it's done on PlayStation5, Nintendo Switch Microsoft Xbox Series S X
Hei Outlander, playing co-op with friends is not currently possible in PC Early Access, but it will be possible after the full PC release 🙂🍅
Je fais des vidéos sur Vigor en Français et mon anglais n'est pas fou.. Quelqu'un pour me faire un petit résumé ? (j'ai compris se qui est écrit sur la vidéo mais je ne comprend pas se qu'il raconte 😅
PULL THE PLUG
Nerf the mg that gun is ridiculous
Low the prices but holes
Crossbow buff lets gooooo
Get rid of the bot lmgs
What about the part where you guys ruined all the snipers and marksmen rifles by removing the crosshairs
😂 still going to bunny hoping around
There are more people cheating now than ever since "all these fixes and updates", and thats if the game actually works. They are changing nothing, a game that could be better than COD but is trash because they want to put energy into skins more than maps, but dont worry they will put out a machete 😂
The games shooting mechanics were fine before you buffed LMGs all those years ago and now you have made things exponentially worse with this update. The guns no longer feel unique and movement is now awful. You cant jump or drop shot either, why are you implementing changes on things that require skill?
I will finish this season and if you don’t revert back to a real shooting system like season 19 then it will be time to say goodbye.
And new maps
Hi there, you can expect the full Encounter Eikevjen map later this year 🍅 There is actually a small sneak-peak of that in the video 😉
I knew that waterfall looked different
PlayStation crossplay when?
Add reviving
Too glitchy more weapons
Need maps
YES BUT DONT HAVE ANY SENSE THE BALANCE WEAPONS OF THIS GAME
Que buenos sois, con la de problemas que tiene el juego como son los chetos amplias a jugadores de pc sois unos genios con la jugabilidad tan mala que tiene jugar en consola con mando se nos suma ahora jugadores con teclado y ratón en pc
Add cars
If the machinegewehr has changed like big am leaving
Please leave. We don’t need cry baby LMG sweats. PLEASE leave lmao.
Bye Felicia
Hopefully. That thing is the biggest most cringe cheese in the game.
@@AngryHoboJR PLEASE LEAVE! We don’t need cry baby LMG tryhards. So do yourself and everyone else a favor and leave PLEASE!
@@AngryHoboJR PLEASE LEAVE!! Nobody is gonna miss a crybaby lmg tryhard lmao. We already got enough crybabies and enough lmg tryhards. We don’t need a mega queer lol
Please combine the platforms, there are no players in the pc version, huge vigor, the current number of players in the pc version is 60, we cannot play the game, please take action, do not waste the most beautiful game in the world.
what about nades that go boom not poof make mortars blow up houses blow out walls bullets bust out glass every thing explodable this game feels outdated maps seem dull and boring
I don't think these are realistic expectations. Especially destructible buildings. Almost no game does this. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see this but I don't think the team wants to deliver something like that or maybe they lack the resources.
I feel like it wouldn’t be vigor
@@AngryHoboJRI know he meant like rainbow six throw a c4 on a ceiling and kill a guy and the floor breaks etc. there has to be a crack in the glass for me to shoot through it sometimes. Maybe a mortar can bust out the windows or a door and now there's no need to open that window anymore I can jump in not holding X to get shot in the back or a house door open I run in and dude camping behind the door..waiting. So I get what he's saying but also take into account we're just one person each. Would take a lot of us recommending this during a live stream.
Way to much thought for a video game
What is that even supposed to mean? 🥲 Online game balancing is complex as hell.
@@Ample17 we've been asking for it since it came out and it seems like it's to difficult to do balance balance balance
You're not making sense mate. I don't get what you are trying to say.
Why? Your game is dead already
Thats not true
Not true at all, well dead on PlayStation
@@AngryHoboJRthis not true either. Ps alive n good
@@X_BrokenxAK_X Yes indeed, Vigor is truly alive on Playstation
@@Nym-v4l damnnn just I didn’t check for ps just for Xbox
this is such an L
Hi there, may we ask why do you think so?
resolve the error 0
5 blood splatters, 5 bullet hits and ZERO hit markers. Absolutely trash now. You have destroyed vigor. Wont be playing again meaning no more money from me. Great work guys
GREAT work on destroying your game. I deleted it today