Canadian Builders School : Great Details Here!
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2020
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I can't believe we don't have more hands-on learning centers like this in the U.S.! & I know where I'd recommend young people go to train! Way to go Canada!
Yes it’s great you can learn everything you need to know about home building and ownership and not even go in to a building trade helps tremendously when your purchasing a first home
We do, it’s called a construction site.
We have something just like this in the US. The United Brotherhood of Carpenters has training centers across the US and Canada where free training like this is offered to it’s members.
@@nate9945 I've never seen one in Texas...but I'll look into that!
@@NunYaO contractors in Texas do not do any actual work, they hire the cheapest labor fresh off the border.
I'm very proud to be a BCIT Alumni. Best school ever.
My brother went to BCIT. He had nothing but great things to say.
Now that’s a trade school I would have loved to have access to.
I would love this stuff ALOT..man... The thing that turned me away from trades and into computer science...was the fact that there wasnt anything like this canadian school thing in the states, Id love to take these courses and start building...Kinda hate my office job
im in construction management and i love watching your shows and seeing new ideas you come up with
Bravo Alex! Vraiment super intéressant...wish I was in my 20s I would drop everything here in La Belle Province and move out to BC to attend this fabulous school. Keep up the great work!
I learned something new about stainless steel conduction properties that I wasn't aware of. Interesting for our northern climate here in Maine.
I own a mechanic shop and build alot of show cars, diesel trucks, rock crawlers. People come in with thier brand new supercharged ZL1 Camaros with nitrous and start talking about thier set up, and all I hear is blah blah blah. But i go to someone's house and notice its built out of ICF, or they have a solar system, or notice a passive design, or thier wall is 14 inches thick. I start asking them questions and get really interested and excited. I have up cars and guns and dirt bikes and motorcycles to start saving for my house build, it's the only thing that grabs my attention these days, passive house assemblies are more exciting then anything under the hood of a mustang any day.
that's a lot.
meh... I build guns and trucks and I'm a builder....money is the key.
passive house is for glamour. there is no cost savings unles you own the home for a long ass time which statistically no one owns a home for more than 5 years....do it because it's fun and make you liberal senses feel good... not to save money unless you are in it for the long haul...further more when shitty builders try to adopt tight home ideas it usually leads to more issues because of improper low cost labor screw ups.
@@drewp503 I bought my first house when i was 16, it will be 15 years this july. It needs to be town down anyways, it's old and dilapidated, I want to quit renting and move my shop home. So for half the price I pay in house payment and Yahoo rent I can build to high quality standards, have alot better house, more shop space, heated floors, new lifts, overhead crane, save my self an hour of drive time everyday, and save hundreds a month in the winter on utilities. There is literally no downsides, besides the fact that it's hard as ahit to get financed for a decent house, they dont care if you'll save money, they only care what you're making currently.
Could use that analogy as a sign of a poorly built house. Everyone runs to see the beautiful vintage Ferrari with gloss paint like a mirror. But there engine backfires, the floors are rusted out under the carpet, it leaves puddles from leaking fluids if left in one parking spot for an hour, and zip ties hold up the gas tank in the trunk.
drewp503 I think you make a good point but I can’t help but think the answer for the majority of people in the future is something in the middle. Houses that are close to the simplicity to build that we have now but use simple but effective methods to minimise heat transfer, increase insulation etc etc. At the moment it’s an all or nothing attitude.
I’m glad Matt that you have spent some time in Canada, looking at how we build homes, next stop, Ontario and Quebec. Where Quebec does a lot of electric heating.
@eyeonfish I live in the West Island and want to do similar to a 100 year old house, but have no idea who to talk to.
I really want to attend a class like this. I could learn a lot and it’ll help me be proactive when building.
Man, I wish we had one of these. Matt, would like it if you could do a video explaining why you "wouldn't do that". Think that'd be good information.
Absolutely! I don't want to put words in Matt's mouth, but I am guessing it is impractical / counter productive in Texas.
I am from BC, and just want to know the correct way to do it.
Love the tips, great for self builders as well as for pros. I was on my site today looking to fit some Schock connectors on my Quad Lock ICF house
This seems like such a great program. Also, there's some serious bromance watching these two guys nerd out over construction. This is awesome.
Thanks Matt & Alex, I learnt so much in 20 minutes, imagine how much I could learn during a whole course! Incredible knowledge Alex, & I like how you want to make Passive "Cool" :)
You just keep getting better and better.
Matt - Love to see you thinking of the implications in real time at 16:18! As always, great stuff - I wish we could have every builder train in these things. It could be tremendous if we could return to genuine apprenticeship and build into our young people (or people who want to change into the builder profession).
This Michigan viewer is glad you went to Canada. The Texas homes don't match our weather zone. Thanks for the trip and knowledge sharing!
I never knew that certain builder trades are not required to be licensed by some states. Geez, is that important to know. I was planning on building in another state. So important is what Matt Risinger is doing. Thank You, Matt.
Like in IN there is very little electrical that yoy can do without a permit. But, to get a permit you just have to pass a test that's available to everyone regardless of education. So I can extend and maintain existing circuits but cannot add new ones and it can be tricky when structural stuff is involved (like no drilling through joists without a permit of a different type, to move fixtures around even though it's existing). But there's exceptions too, like you can get a change permitted retroactively by a licensed electrician; often, it's just having them inspect your work and sign off, but, if the cost is the same whether they do it or you as homeowner do it, then I'd just pay them. Idk about other states hut our code is available online. It's sometimes a bear to read but very helpful
Thank you Matt
We work on old houses but I love the science here.
Once you go to Siga stuff you wonder what you were doing before, love their products
Fantastic video Matt.
Man, what a fascinating video.👍🏾
Our read seal is recognized world wide and continuing to improve knowledge base is nothing but a win win for everyone
Did my Steel Fabrication Red Seal there many years ago lots of great industrial brain power under those roofs
Awesome, we (in the colonies) could really benefit from an educational system like that.
Would have been nice to have a place like this when I graduated high school.
Would be nice to see a lot more Education Institutions like this down here in the states, as we do have some places you can go to for the Trades; but not very convenient for some, & the cost can also be a major factor.....depending on State live in, Trade going for, & the necessary training, certificates, & licenses you may need.
Definitely need to tighten up their processes, still super interesting that places like this exist!
Mr.Risinger, I have 2x12 roof rafters with sprayed foam insulation, can I run penny-gap directly on the rafters? Should I put Sheetrock on first? Do I need the Sheetrock there?
Love the details. Lets see what the water does in your next video
Great to see passive house principles getting longer legs. Triffic show Matt.
I love the Mustang analogy!
Wicked! Greetings from Munich, BV!
I’m a Canadian living in the US. I went through a trade program in Canada. I’m a huge proponent of it. I wish such a program existed in the US nation wide.
The Canadian approach is applied to trades in multiple sectors - from cooks to carpenters. Students attend an approximately 15 months session in college. The curriculum is developed by the industry - certified trades people sit on the council. It’s reviewed regularly and updated accordingly.
Then students work under a journey-person to accumulate 6000 hours (3 years) of work experience. They will typically go back to school for about a month for 3 times over the 3 years. A test is written after each session. A final test is then written at the end of the last session.
Successful completion of the education, 6000 hours of work experience, 3 additional sessions in school and passing all test certified the trades-person. Then earn their red seal.
Employers have a reasonable level of confidence in hiring journey-person from one of the country to the other.
It is an extremely good system, i went through too. My only complaint is that the building departments and home warranty systems do not recognize it at all. Any idiot who pays a few grand and takes a couple online courses is the same in the eyes of the government as a 20 year journeyman with no warranty issues and who has trained apprentices. In fact, the carpenter also needs to pay the same money and take the same moneygrabbing courses. Also, since anyone can pick up a hammer and they often do, that is what the building departments seem to be geared towards. Even a building small enough to comfortably fit in part nine often requires engineering now, despite being simple standard practice for a seasoned carpenter.
It makes me sad to see the ticket devalued and replaced with a host of tiny little certifications. The only places that value the ticket anymore are in heavy industry.
You know in the states you can go get a job at 15 years old with a trade of your choice as an apprentice. GET PAID TO LEARN and by the time you're 18 you have the knowledge most people twice your age don't...
The problem is no one wants to build things anymore... No one wants to get a sliver that could get infected. No one wants to have permanent grease stains on their hands like I do as a diesel mechanic. Everyone thinks "I want to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to watch Netflix in an office". It's just sad.
@@brandoncrimmins6296 I got an apprenticeship at 16. My teachers formed a group and went to my boss and told him he was throwing away my potential. Told him that the trades were a waste of my talents and that i should go to university. I am glad neither he nor I agreed. I was making 1200$ a weekend in grade 11.
@@hosmerhomeboy I went to tech/trade school for diesel. And dropped out after a couple months because I was paying them for me to help teach the class. I quickly put 2 and 2 together and realized that I was wasting money to get an ENTRY-LEVEL job and I already was ENTRY-LEVEL! So I got a job at a Diesel shop and within 5 years I was the day shift foreman. That was fifteen years ago. I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. But I get paid quite well. So I guess I'll stick with it.
@@brandoncrimmins6296 good on ya. I went through in the early 200's and they had these "pre apprenticeship" courses. The idea being that a pre app would be more attractive to employers by dint of having some extra schooling. Giant companies aside, no one wanted to hire them. Turns out that extra schooling has either little correlation to worksite skill, or negative correlation. Also, pre apps felt they should be hired ahead of laborers and paid more. The whole thing was a waste imo. Want a trades job? go apply, and be ready to work. Want an apprenticeship? get good enough they want to keep you so when you ask your odds are good.
Great video!
excellent video matt
Building associations in the US need to talk with their local community colleges and trade schools about offering similar education opportunities. I hear builders and trades always say they need a pipeline of good workers. This is one way to get some eager and well trained employees to your business. Maybe send a copy of the video to your local association and ask what they are doing to increase the access to well trained employees.
You must be kidding. No trade school replaces years of experience. Trades are just to get you started so you don't look like a fool, too much, when you start working. Most people that go to trade schools do not survive in the business.
That’s cool. Thanks for sharing. Trade school with recurrent training combined with working in the trade?
Matt don't interrupt. You're finishing the man's sentences.
You cannot stop a stereotypical American from being a stereotypical American. Why try? There was a way worse example some months back that drew way more comments than just yours, and he still didn't give a flying you know what :-D I didn't even notice in this one, I thought it was mostly reasonable, the other one was downright rude.
@@fredio54 And that's an American thing? Is being presumptuous and judgemental a trademark of where you're from?
@@Resistculturaldecline do not put words in my mouth (or anything else, for that matter!). Stereotypical, as in, fits the stereotype, whether that stereotype fits the masses, or just a few, that's what it globally and universally is. And Matt fits it IMO. Perhaps poor reading comprehension is a trademark of where you're from? :-D
@@fredio54 First sentence of your first post proves my point, and contradicts your last post. Have a nice day.
@@Resistculturaldecline Again, separating stereotypical and the subclass of it from American the super group - they are two words together. You cannot stop a stupid Frenchman from being stupid or French. Same statement. Can be used with any terms. The only statement I made is that Matt is one. I stand by that. I enjoy his entertaining antics, but like sher53sher sometimes cringe at the rudeness and crassness.
Matt is looking pretty sharp in this video, looks like he has been working out or something ... Matt is one handsome man and smart too!!!
One of the benefits of the Red Seal program is that it is internationally censured. You have it you can get recognizance for it in many countries that are involved with the ITA.
Hey Matt by any chance is there a workshop in san Francisco or Los Angeles just like this one on the video
Stainless steel rebar in concrete can have issues with acidic corrosion cracking...
Carbon steel to Stainless steel welding is not a problem, you need to up alloy to a higher nickel content rod such as 308 SS filler for 304 base metal.
Awesome program. Dunno why it takes a year though. Really wish you'd get close-ups of the details - always been an issue. Are there any programs like that in the US? We should force every builder to learn this stuff.
Former BCIT student here, different trade though.
The one year is for uneducated straight out of high school very green students. If someone was a go getter already spent a couple summers or years working as unskilled labour can go straight to the journeyman program, for my trade, 4 sets of 6 weeks of study
Would love to see what you didn’t like about the exterior insulation flashing detail at about 845 looking at the class room mock-ups.
Hey Matt! Any chance to make more videos about cold climate house details? cuz watching all your videos all the time, i feel like an expert in building houses on the south, but i live in the north.. :D
Is there anything like this in Newengland? I live in Vermont and would like to become passive haus certified but go through this type of training.
Please Help!!!!! Thank you!!!!
This was kind of hard to watch because Matt was talking all over the guy. But, I don't think that he was doing it out of ego.
I think he was doing it to keep the video on schedule. The guys spoke a little slowly and Matt might have just been trying to pick up the pace.
So, it was hard to watch, but I don't think Matt intended any disrespect.
Even when he bad mouthed the flashing detail, he was doing it for our benefit. I appreciate the honesty!
You should come to The Netherlands sometime!
At 13 min you are talking about admiring under the hood of a Mustang and how that should be a thing for houses. That really should be a thing. Imagine walking into the foyer (ok or the bathroom) where there is some wall "art" about the building science and techniques. And I loved those clear models of engines as a kid. I think the Prius succeeded because of its version 2 iconic shape. People knew you were driving a new thing. Imagine the Prius of advanced building science construction instantly identifiable from the curb. People want to signify.
great idea. Even a nice schematic on display.
two peas in a pod. lol. love it.
Fiberglass and carbon fiber has even lower cunductivity, but it would be designed in thermal expansion in mind
Carbon fibres alone have very high conductivity.... like copper...
Was hoping to see more on the roofing insulation.
Matt, what were you referring to when you mentioned the “insulated headers?”
A Stef the headers have insulation between the wood.
Rather than a single piece of timber that fulfill structural load requirements on the window header you have two pieces that are insulated in-between.
Matt, could you post a video (either on your UA-cam channel or the Build Show Network) of your sales pitch for high performance homes? I'd love to hear how you approach the topic, the correlation with Yeti, and how you've seen clients respond.
yes!
I thought it was standard in the US to have such trade schools. Here, in Canada, this is standard for most trade apprenticeships.
Welding stainless to carbon is simple. You just need a 309 filler material
Many simple things are represented here as unque
What is the name of blue tape under the pvc window?
Blue skin
I can understand low e coated windows in warm climates, but isn't it counterproductive in colder climates?
In my house in MA I Def hear the heater kicking on less (and I burn less wood) on sunny winter days when I have the blinds up and the curtains open. I pretty much live in a field so I I have full sunlight most of the day... Wouldn't a low e window hurt my solar heating?
Sure they would help a ton in the summer months, but what's the climate cutoff between where low e windows are beneficial vs when they actually hurt the performance of the house?
The principle behind Low E glass is to reflect the heat back towards it's source. A major advantage of Low E glass is it keeps the inside surface of the glass warmer in the Northern areas like Massachusetts or where I live in Wisconsin.
For passive solar gain low-e glass should only be used on the North, East and West sides of the structure. Un coated glass should be used on the south side (Northern Hemisphere) to allow for solar heat gain. Properly sized roof eaves will prevent overheating in the summer months.
6:06 euro window Trocal :) just instal some of them here in EU, relatively good frame not the best but not near the worst here
The windows in US sxxk! And they are very expensive also. There are many brands that makes framing profiles for windows and doors like REHAU, TROCAL, LACOSTE, LG and so on... but non of those are in US.
Real education like this is the way its done,...because how else can you know what you don`t know.
This video is so smart!
When you saw the wall structure with exterior xps foam insulation, you looked at the camera and said "don't do that". Why? I was thinking of adding some when I do new vinyl siding. I live in Pennsylvania, climate zone 5 or 6. 2x4 walls r13 fiberglass batts. I need to improve that from the 70s era and bring it up to the modern era.
You need the walls to breath. It's like creating an extra vapor barrier on the outside of the house.
This video reminded me of a certain Bob. Don't go full Bob, Matt. Be courteous to people opening their doors for your content.
Bob Vila?
Yeah Matt, great job, next time let him finish his sentence. Bob Villa used to do that, it gets a bit annyoing and slightly disrespectful.
I get it trying to move it along, but French isn't his first language, it's a little pressuring on him.
Great facility, and school, love your show, great job! Thanks!
hi good show
How do I convert an existing house to a passive house?
MetaView7 you and me. As the building designer said when he looked at my plans, “ you’d be better off pulling it down and starting again”. Except I’m not. Mine will be sheathed in Hempcrete infill which I’ll do myself. It meets code where I live, is labour intensive, but suits diy and looks fantastic. May not hit .6 ach, but I’ll have fun trying.
@@rossmcleod7983 Hempcrete?
I am in. I don't need fire rating. :v
This should be mandatory for all builders and renovators in North America.
I like my beer cold as well
matt do you have an email, for general questions?
On my website for my building company. FYI, I get lots of emails daily so I cannot always keep up. 😬
Awesome. It sure is a lot like what you do for us, except that the world is your classroom.
This Detail is so Expensive!
Imagine the costs of stainless rebar.
It hardly never goes to the average person...
This is High End build .
Brilliant though .
I love passive builds
Well done B.C .
Like to see how much , all this costs
Double wall construction with dense pack cellulose adds very little to the overall costs...….material wise on my last design it was about 2k difference on a 2100 square foot house.
Other methods can add considerably more, such as exterior foam, it can add as much as 20k to the same house depending on insulation levels….and on house that costs 30k in materials a extra 20k is a lot,......2k not soo much.
Those costs can easily be negated thru wise finish choices such as flooring and appliance options....., simply going from 5 dollar a square foot flooring to 4 dollar a square foot can cover the costs …..that would be 2100 savings on a 2100 square foot house, covering the 2k extra for thermally broke double wall r-40 performance...……
The first step to fixing the problem is recognizing there is a problem,...……..we are building some really poor houses here, not up to first world standards at all. Pigs in lipstick, energy pigs that is, while looking really nice, the performance is horrible......you can pay a house off no matter what the cost, you can never pay the gas or electric bill off, they keep coming month after month, year after year and only increase .
@@shawncockrell6007 great point on the heating costs, I live in a house built in 1892 in the UK and it's not cheap to heat.
lol @matt mouthing "I wouldn't do that" hahaha
Still really awesome school, building passivehouse style, if it really only takes 5 days more, should honestly be standard.
love the 5 day return course though!
What's the time stamp?
8:32 lol what is going on there. guy is talking about flashing details and tape and there isn't any of that going on.
Its about value
Cool. Nice to see old timers there in the class who have tons of experience but just need a look at what’s available to meet new codes.
Net Zero and Passive House construction techniques make for a quality home.
Passive houses are cool but the real thing a place like this would be good for is for teaching best practices for waterproofing and water mitigation. I live in Minnesota yet could care less to actually own a passive house. I don’t want the thing to rot away from a shitty Tyvek job.
I wish all Canadian builders were trained to these standards and all Canadian houses were built with these standards but that is not quite the reality.
My brother lives in BC. I'm in Ontario.
He wonders why I'm not signed up yet after 5+ years working in the trades and my employer has been fined repeatedly for not doing so.
In the office they laugh about it because they save more on wages than they pay in fines.
I think Ontario is the worst, from my understanding. First world levels of regulations with third world levels of enforcement.
Thermal conductivity is different than electrical conductivity.
Plumbers need a license in Texas, when did they rescind the law passed last year?
"But starting this September, plumbers in Texas will not have to be licensed, insured and they won't be required to take continuing education classes. ... The Texas State Board of Plumbing Examiners oversees plumbing in Texas. But that agency will soon be abolished, eliminating state requirements for plumbers." Jun 3, 2019
Byron Tabor They did that so all the illegals (who can’t/don’t speak English) can take MORE jobs away from Americans!!
Actually, if my understanding is correct, the licensing was supposed to transition from the Texas Board of Plumbing Examiners to the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, who licenses the other trades in Texas. The problem came in when the TBPE was sunset and the TDLR had not picked it up yet. You could probably Google it.
FYI- you can't compare expensive cars to well-built passive homes. BMWs drive well but costly to maintain. Tesla have updates all the time, and most driven by former Porsche-holes. Should say Honda or Toyota for long-term savings, reliability and resale (hint someone drives a Tundra).
8:32 I really want to know what you are telling us.
Pretty sure he said "I wouldn't do that."
That was kinda rude
@@jaceay2662 Thank you
@@supacook2000 I agree. Might have been better to talk about later, in studio, with explanation.
If you add the subtitle on screen it is better for foreigner like me..
The amount of materials in these assemblies, there’s got to be a better way.
ICF. Wood is so prone to so many issues but you'd better be sure about your floorplan. :-)
@@michaelronneseth801 you'd better be sure of your floorplan if you're going to build with ICF, too! ;)
@@roryhassett9581 yeah, exactly what I said :-)
Complexity can be better if simplified! A lot of stages there.really! These concepts are not for BMW owners only! But for everyone! So cost is a huge hurdle!
Peter Magnusson exactly I wish they would teach the middle ground, something more realistic for most people but still making a more energy efficient structure than the usual high volume garbage housing we all put up with.
😃👍🏻👊🏻
BC had a big problem with leaking and rotting timber houses. This is the response.
In case you're wondering why housing is expensive.
I find education now is going overkill. I think it is going to be to the point that people are going to be deterred from the trades because there is so much supplemental information you have to really search for the important stuff.
RTIC is better than YETI... YETI just has the marketing game figured out.
No sloped sill. Water is the enemy
@Astepahead YES! Always slope your sills...even trim under a window (if you aren't using a window pan, or window flashing), should have a 5degree bevel on it.
@Astepahead there are definitely ways around it...but if you want a sure fire way to keep water out (or away from the exterior of your home) everything should be sloping away from the wall. Here are some great section views of the process canadianmasonryservices.com/portfolio-item/window-sills/ they also cover issues and problems encountered with using different techniques.
Bonjour Québec 12:46 😉🌱
"Kay Beck!" oh pass so many sortie up 87 Northway to Montreal...
@@xoxo2008oxox Ee... 0k... What's the point... 🤔
Lack of homebuyer education means too many people only value what they can see, such as granite countertops. If a homebuyer is pushing the budget, better to save the eye candy for later and spend what little they have on good bones. As a builder, how do you get your buyers thinking that way?
Always thought they need to build a wall with plexiglass rather than drywall to show the difference in wall construction. People want to be educated, but have no idea what a green/passive/energy star home means or how its achieved or why it matters. Walk into a home and there might be a clueless flak with a brochure with a sentence or two. That simply isn't enough to get people to look deeper/pay more.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb, that's a start. And of course you are spot on with the salesman observation. What doesn't come easy are the real numbers. If a builder could show that--yeah, you're gonna pay $100 a month more on the mortgage, but you'll save $200 a month on utilities--then that will get some people's attention.
@@greatscott9231 Yeah, but how do you do that unless you build identical homes? Would be an interesting sales tool for a large tract to show the difference. Efficient Home A costs $25K more than B. But B costs an extra $300 to heat/cool. 7 year payback. Would that resonate with buyers? I'm skeptical. I think reality is few would choose the better built home vs adding more bling.
Hi Matt. Love your channel, but don’t be a jerk when someone is hosting a tour of their school. At 8:03 in the video you mouthed “don’t do that” or something to that effect. Maybe don’t say anything!
Frank Taccetta I see your point but you’d rather misinformation be disseminated? I think the guy’s ego can take it for the sake of education.
I thought he said "He didn't do that." but I could be wrong.
@@bassntruck I'm not sure why he said that but I think it's because having a non breathing exterior insulation leaves the very real possibility of moisture getting trapped between the wall and the insulation and causing massive rot/degradation of the sheathing and wall assembly. There was a ton of contractors making this huge mistake right after the 2012 code came in to play as they struggled to meet the assembly insulation requirements. R24 hadn't come out yet and doing the double wall wasn't practiced by anyone I saw. The better solution they should have employed in that sample was air barrier at the wall and then Roxul Comfortboard over that with a rainscreen and then the siding. I'd never ever use rigid on the outside like that, ever.
More like TINY HOUSES 🤪😳🙄
I'm all for quality. But I'm not paying $400+ for a damn cooler. I could buy a power inverter for $50 on Amazon as well as a mini fridge for $50. And for $100 I can FREEZE my drink if I want to.
Yeti makes a great product. I'm not denying that. But people that buy it are not very intelligent.
Lifetime and ozark trail coolers at Walmart are basically the same thing. You twice the size for half the price of a yeti.
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Have to admit. These passive setups are not anywhere near as good as previous ones Matt and Steve have shown.
OK, Matt, now I want to see you build a house using what you have learned so far. Design it to fit in where that poopy '70 house was. Pick up a hammer and start swinging! Make it a video series. Less yack yack, More whack whack!