I wouldn’t say it is more common starting under 40 but more like for people under 60. I mean the OG Valley Girls were GenX and GenX were the ones who first grew up speaking this way and using all these terms. It was like totally way spread beyond the Valley and across the US already by the early 80s. GenX did all this even more than younger gens. You just mention the stuff that just never died out. Literally adds extra emphasis.
valley accent migrated to spanish too, we have this kind of people called fresas and they have the same accent as valley girls. It started thus rich people in mexico used to go to college in the US especially california and they started speaking spanish with the same vowels pattern.
The fresa thing has been around longer than the Valley girl accent.. but yes they were mostly rich people from Guadalajara or Mexico city with horrible spanish mixed with English..the reason Spanish speakers born in the US use words or sounds like "um" or "so" is because they can't remember words in Spanish so they say "um" to take time and think what they need to say.
There is no doubt American English is easily transferred between people by the massive American media production. but I think that the superlative or the extreme way of speaking is a product of using and addicting social media services that encourage every extreme tweet, post. pic or Idea. I agree with you that it is a trend in life in general. I'm Egyptian Arabic native speaker and I can notice it.
I’d also note “like” is used to signify paraphrasing. (Coming from a Valleyspeaker myself haha) “I was talking to Cam and he was like ‘nobody told me that!’” Carries a different meaning to “I was talking to Cam and he said ‘nobody told me that!’” The second sentence signifies that I’m directly quoting him, but the first means I’m paraphrasing what he said, he might’ve said something differently but it carries the same meaning of “no one told me.” ✌🏽
Exactly what I said. It's actually honest to say "like." It means it's not a direct quote. It's also saying "similar to" (which is the actual meaning of the word "like"). That's why it's a brilliant word. So I watched this video and was like, whatever
I’m an Iranian American who moved to Los Angeles and happen to live in a portion of LA area that is called “the valley”. Even though I went to high school here I did my best not to speak like that
Thats a big ooof for my cousins who swore she and her brother wouldn't have that accent and since he was so gay she caught the accent and when they came back after 6 years of university they both have this valley girl accent and always adds that uhm and so and totally and literally in their sentences and their sentences are structured like questions. Hahah 🤣 and my relatives started to assume they were dumb or something because they keep on engaging conversations with more questions. Since the understanding and comprehension of english here isn't contextual
This phenomeon is not limited to American english, i think this "Valley-girlification" is universal. In Turkey this is how all people younger than 25 speak like. Im sure it also happens all over the world
@Koriander Yander It originated in A California valley, namely the San Fernando Valley, or just "the Valley". The major cities in the LA "Annex" are Northridge, Arleta, Canoga Park, Chatsworth, Encino, Glendale, Granada Hills, Lake View Terrace, Mission Hills, North Hollywood, North Hills, Pacoima, Panorama City, Porter Ranch, Reseda, Sherman Oaks, Studio City, Sun Valley, Sunland, Sylmar, Tarzana, Toluca Lake, Tujunga, Van Nuys, Valley Village, West Hills, Winnetka, and Woodland Hills. The best known LA through-streets, there, are Mulholland, Van Nuys, Ventura, Sepulveda, Cahuenga, Brand, Marbro, EE Horton, & Devonshire to name a few.
@tzjyoutube..it brings back my 3 vacations in the valley area,especially Burbank,Pasadena,and Sun Valley..even downtown..omg..how l miss those food markets,Mexican bodegas ,guitar centers and thrift stores..l cant wait for a new tourist visa to visit my friends there Greetings from Havana, Cuba.
I'm learning English and I am impressed with this video about accents because a lot of people keep trying to imitate a valley girl looking for the appearance of sounding "more natural". By the way, Luke, your diction and pronunciation are amazing! I understood everything you said. You got a new subscriber right now!!
It's from girls who hung around San Fernando valley shopping malls, popularized by Moon Zappa's record "Valley Girl" that came out in the late 70s. It has a lot of overlap with surfer English.
I believe the reason that "like" started being used a lot is the lack of vocabulary, which has been a thing in california for many teenagers not to be good in school reulting in a large lack of vocabulary!
@@hannuvepsalainen74 because they want to be rebellious towards their parents. Every generation has their own lingo, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s etc..Pretty common sense dear.
@@larrysmith2123 well this thing has gone on longer than a decade and it is a thing that has persisted and gotten worse, lingos come and go, not stay and get worse.
Spot on! Origin: San Fernando Valley - mid 1970s. Popularised by Frank Zappa's song, 'Valley Girl' in 1982. Spread internationally via the film, 'Clueless'. 1. Upward intonation at the end of most sentences (as if you're asking a question). 2. The word 'like' used where it should not be used (always excessively). 3. The voice also taking on that raspy downward tone as if you have a sore throat. These are all things that have sadly, reached as far as the UK. The original teenage Valley Girls would be in their 50s and 60s now. BTW, the word 'so' at the beginning of every sentence was popularised by 'Seinfeld'. I know companies that won't hire people who speak as above.
I'm German and I LiTeRalLy feel like everybody started to say "und ich war nur so....", which is close to a translation of " I was like..." a few years ago in Germany. So the valley girl seems to even spread lIkE even further than the english language itself does. Very interesting video by the way, quite enjoyed it!
Indonesian too. The younger generation in Jakarta is starting to use the word "kayak" which means "like" as a filler in every sentence. I think this californian accent is spread all over the world
Same in swedish, but I think it has been here for 20 years ish maybe? Young people say "o ja ba" which is a sloppy way of saying "och jag bara" which is the same as "and I was like"
Und ich so : "Hä? Dieses "Oh, mein Gott " wird auch so VOLL häufig benutzt, und so !" Ey, voll Hammer. (Valley is, like, SO ev-ry-where...! Peeps talking so grody...)
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After hearing a valley girls' conversation for three minutes or so, I start to understand why shows such as Downton Abbey even exist, and their stylish way of exchanging thoughts grows on me, lmao.
Thats because Downton Abbey is selling a myth of posh British times, that was lost decades ago already.....its kinda banal. Upstairs Downstairs is the real shit, the queen likes this serie. Jeeves and Wooster is real intellectual comedy, or rather P.J. Wodehouse in general, like "Pigs have Wings". i mean....Wodehouse stories are the fav. books of Fry.
This was so good. 😂👍 So these valley girls are making things or situations extravagant. They're kind of being mellowdramatic while expressing their thoughts and emotions. Because they personally might feel like whatever is happening in their life is so important and a really big deal and no one has ever experienced anything like that before.🧐
It’s actually an indicator of a serious personality disorder. It’s called Impressionistic Speech and it happens because these people lack empathy and a normal range of emotion. They are theatrical psychopaths who destroy lives. If this is becoming standard American English, be afraid. I associate it with I’m insincere “social justice” types these days. I think they associate it with “being Liberal.” That accent has nothing to do with being genuinely progressive, yet they keep affecting it. They also think it makes them sound young.
Vally girl accent actually makes me not that afraid to talk in English cuz i can literally, like just use the word like when I was like totally forgetting about what the word is, and so it gives me time and helps me relaxed to re-member or re-phrase what I wanna say. It's just so powerful and easy.
0:30 "The Valley" is the San Fernando Valley in the city of Los Angeles which is a little (12 miles) north of downtown. Also the city of San Fernando is in the valley but it's separate from and surrounded by LA.
It is easy to learn as a non native speaker because when I say “like” or “um” al lot, I can ignore grammar rules to a certain extent, and gain a second or two of thinking time.
I'm Indonesian and i can say that this valley girl accent influenced city society, millenials, gen Z especially in Jakarta and mixed up with Indonesian language and local language, such as bahasa jaksel for example. Bahasa jaksel created as a product of young Jakartan mentality and perspective towards american culture which sounds "cool and stylish" to them. You'll find a lot of this in urban areas and spoken by high schoolers and upper middle teenagers, but this is spread to rural areas too, since Indonesian internet penetrators are more than 123 M, it spread rapidly, and it affected other local languages,styles and accents too. Thanks to Internet, Tiktok, Instagram, it changed everything.
Thanks for this good video. As a foreigner, I was always asking myself why the Kardashians seem to speak a "different" type of English, especially in terms of their intonation. Also, learners of English as a foreign language are told that words ending in -ion (condition, expectation, tradition, etc.) have the stress on the last but one syllable (conDItion, expecTAtion, traDItion). However, the Ks put the stress on the last syllable (condiTION, expectaTION, tradiTION). Is this typical of valley girl English?
I can agree with you. I also noticed that I am also slowly being influenced by this "valley girls" accent. Thankfully, I don't talk like that in person but often talk like one through chat. If I were to avoid this habit, I should try to use new filler words because I wanted to talk more formally and appropriately.
Back in the 1960s, Playboy magazine ran several "Little Annie Fanny" cartoons. They were VERY funny, and one of them included a hippie girl talking about the groovy "experience" she was having and every nth word was "like." So this "like" stuff has been around for at least that long, and probably longer. Some say as far back as the 19th century.
Buddy I enjoy the contrast of your normal talking and the talking examples you made, you might have guess I am still learning English, thanks for the video
I think that more than an accent, it is a personality trait or an attitude. It probably exists all over the world. There's an equivalent of the "valley girl" in Spanish as well, including every other country that speaks some type of Spanish. In Mexico we call them "fresa (gender neutral)" or "freson (if it's a boy)", "fresona (if it's a girl). Also, when someone in Mexico says "she/he speaks with a potatoe in his/her mouth" we mean that the person is "fresa" in an indirect way lol. The word "fresa" in this context is used as a slang, but the formal meaning of the word "fresa" is "strawberry" in English.
im not a native speaker, someone told me i'm trying to imitate a valleygirl accent when until now that i searched i didnt even know what it was! i think english is becoming a valley accent in general!
I feel there is a kind of gravitational force within u which doesn't follow one of the rule of Newton's Law coz there is no falling back if thrown up either it's ur motivation, enthusiasm, exitement etc. It is as higher as sky.
I'm an Indonesian guy who speaks with like, a thick valley girl accent. when speaking english, like, I never even go to the U.S. let alone Cali. even most of my friends find it literally confusing. like. I NEVER EVEN WATCH THE KARDASHIAN SHOW OR FOLLOWING THEM IN SOCIAL MEDIAS. although, a friend of mine said that I do have a "natural" valley girl accent. like, dude. so confusing.
I was a teen in the 80s and it's seemed to me that starting in the 80s and until today teenage girls all over the USA speak valley and then have to unlearn it as adults, whether consciously or unconsciously. This is nothing new. But what we call valleyspeak has changed over the years. definitely vocal fry and the tired-speak you describe seems to be a later addition. That was not part of valleyspeak in the 80s. But as for LIKE... that started more as hipster/slacker thing in the 60s. Although it wasn't yet the filler-word it became later. See ua-cam.com/video/1BrAg0ouxXk/v-deo.html It spread to surfers and thence to valley girls. And then everywhere.
Yes. I notice the 80s valley girl accent was overly energetic in their words and in how they animated they are. It seems like the exaggeration in their wording has not left, although the animation is much less and has more of a "lazy" feel to it now. Majority of girls AND guys under 30 speaks like this now unfortunately. But the core are young women (unless she is an intellectual or part of a black, hispanic etc. culture). What I really hate about it is that every expression they give off is calculated. They grin a lot or have a emotionless face, but they never explode in laughter or suddenly become sad because of what you said. It comes off as very fake and insincere and usually the people that have these heavy accents actually are just that lol.
@@jjsan27 I hate to hear that but maybe it is a regional or class related thing. My son is 20 and I don't remember hearing any of his peers have any valley in their speech. We are in the midwest. But I recognize the stereotype. It is exaggerated in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. But now that I think about it... I remember hearing that speech pattern in the midwest guys i would have called potheads in the 80s. but only those guys.
@@frederickburke9944 Makes sense. Most people I know that come from midwest sound normal imo. The "MTV" accent is very concentrated here in coastal california but sprinkles a bit throughout the nation.
OMG I’m like sooo offended by this. I literally don’t talk like this! Just kidding! I thought this was very funny. I showed my husband your video and afterwards, he counted the number of times I said these words. It’s official: I talk like a valley girl!
i literally was talking to this girl from the Hood (South Central LA) whose friends literally (actually) constantly accuse her of "sounding white" and sounding like a valley girl. we had to watch this video together to try to figure out how that could be, since she is born and bred hood. well, somehow she does lol it's spreading even into the hood apparently!!!
@@HollywoodTacticool I used to get that same heat when I was younger too. Folk told me I "sounded white" and accused me of listening to Alanis Morissette when I would rather listen to LL Cool J and 2Pac. Now when I speak, people always mistake me for somebody from Brooklyn 😂🤣
As an older Valley Girl, I don't know where this came from..certainly after my childhood. Something I learned after moving down South (Alabama) was "Um kye", in stead of OK...drove my mom nuts!
6:01 lol as someone from southern california, I tend to say like: ohmygodialmostdiedtodayinmathclass, instead of like "oh my god! i almost died in math class"
I am 50, I grew up in SoCal back in the 70s and 80s. I don't know why, perhaps because I am male or just too old to be caught up in this but I thank the gods I don't speak with a Southern Californian accent. I don't use the vocabulary of a valley girl and never use up talk. I think my only sin in this regard is excessive vocal fry.
Its true, I just to be teased hard in FL for saying like! Chicano english was actually the influence. I started hearing college students talking like me at some point and it is wild.
this is so weird because when i think about it i do sound like valley accent american. and its weird. and english is my second language and i dont know how to change it. it comes naturally. i need help seriously.
Nice try..'Like' as an interjection predates Valley Girl by about 30 years..'like' was used by beats and jazz musicians as far back as the forties ..Valley Girl is more characterized by upspeak and vocal fry, linguistically speaking
I'm from Southern California, and I can confirm this. I honestly hate the "valley girl" accent. Maybe it could be because even though I was raised in Los Angeles my whole life (born next door in the city of Inglewood), I tend to be mistaken for somebody from Brooklyn or Queens (due to family friends from NYC and listening to East Coast Hip Hop). I'll admit, I sometimes catch myself when I let a "like" slip out my mouth every blue moon
I'm from Argentina (I live here but travel and work using english) and I speak English since I'm a kid. But valley accent really fucked me up and I can't stop, essentially taken from Kardashians and tík toks, basically media. It's funny because I started like a joke but liiiiike now is literally like myyyy way to speak (and with latin accent too) hahahahahdk need to stop
I'm from the northeast part of the USA and dated a guy who was from Chilé for a little. When we first met he couldn't speak English very well yet. We use to always joke around because no matter WHAT he was saying when he spoke in English he would always take on this "surfer dude" accent and couldn't help it no matter how hard he tried LOL
Admirable how you get through this with almost no show of contempt. As a German who only learnt some British English I find this "dialect" quite, if not totally, ugly. Like.
LOL U're always on point Luke, how in the hell I didn't notice I became a valley girl b4. Hahaha now people will say all of us millennials are the ones who started this😒. Thanks 4 always sharing updated content, keep it up!
I watched this video, and I was like, "OMG, this is totally what I wanted to know!". I was thinking "Valley" means "San Fernando Valley" because that called "The Valley" in The Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise.
There might be more to it. Many young people now drop the long "a" sound and turn it into an "o" sound. "That" is pronounced kind of like "thot." Also, "class" is pronounced like "closs." "Than" is spoken like "thon." Kinda sorta. What do you think?
Brooo guilty as charged I grew up in the 80's in Maryland and alot of my friends talked that back then. But to be honest we weren't trying act dumb it was just common speech. Like my cousin was like. And I was like and he was like...my aunt thought we were crazy but that was a normal way of holding a conversation. I don't have a problem with ppl who talk valley.
i moved to the hood from the suburbs around middle school and people could not stop pointing out my "accent" which always just sounded default to me. But now I hear people of all walks of like talking in approximations of this style, or rather a blend of the style with whatever their dominant cultural background is.
Hi! This video just made me to become your new subscriber! Just a quick question tho…. I’ve lived in the States for about a decade but I feel like I still sound like a foreigner. It’s not a matter of pronunciation, I think it’s definitely accent problem. I’m trying to find an American actress whom I can mimic&practice accent from, but I don’t know if the “valley girl” English would be the most elegant, intelligent, and native-like English to stick to. What do you think? And who would you recommend?
You’re spot on and it drives me crazy!! Hope this is a lesson for people and not a…. “Ohhh myyy gawddd,I sooo talk like thissssss,like I’m soooo cuuute. Like I’m 57’7777 and still put my haaaaur in pony tails but like,literally everyone says I’m soooo cute” Which is all over the comments. Yeah it’s not even professional at McDonald’s.
LA valley girls be like "omg, like, i heard you guys have like a special on, like, all frappacinos today??????? like omg, im, like, totally dying for like, a caramel frap today?????? like, omg?????????????" "??????, ya, ??????? and one of ??????? plz?????? ya thank you ???????????????"
This reminds me of back when I was 14 years old and talking to a boy on AOL instant message about sneaking out to meet up with each other. Well, I didn’t understand all the slang at the time, lol. I asked about his parents.. like how he would get away with it and he told me that his dad was “passed out”. I said, “omg, is he okay?!” Because I didn’t know it was slang for asleep. 😂 I feel embarrassed thinking back on that.
this reminds me of the word 'cool' and how this word was created and spread. This accent has also being spread through the media; either bc media is very cali influenced, or because a group of folks wants everyone to talk like that.
Damn it !!!! I use a Lot that " I was like " expression and also "so" for this or for that, does it mean that I am speaking wrong English? Is it good for boys to speak like that?
Not wrong, just annoying. But there is no real reason to stop talking like that. Heck I even talk like a valley girl at times. I’ll find myself unconsciously using like and ending a sentence as If its a question.
If you use the word "literally" the Californian way it means you're literally speaking incorrect English... I'm so starting to talk like that and I hate it because it's really stupid and grammatically incorrect.😳
I'm so afraid of this phenomenon. All Canadian young girls are speaking like this already. I thought it was a standard Canadian accent. I've been instinctively thinking it sounded super super annoying !! Omg!!!!
If you like this video, check out my other video about Kim Kardashian's speech patterns:
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I wouldn’t say it is more common starting under 40 but more like for people under 60. I mean the OG Valley Girls were GenX and GenX were the ones who first grew up speaking this way and using all these terms. It was like totally way spread beyond the Valley and across the US already by the early 80s. GenX did all this even more than younger gens. You just mention the stuff that just never died out.
Literally adds extra emphasis.
“OMG like that’s totally sooo annoying”
Yeah like literally. Oh my gosh! 😆
Ikr
yaa dude. like bro its so annoying. like dude. stop it oh my gosh
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valley accent migrated to spanish too, we have this kind of people called fresas and they have the same accent as valley girls. It started thus rich people in mexico used to go to college in the US especially california and they started speaking spanish with the same vowels pattern.
The fresa thing has been around longer than the Valley girl accent.. but yes they were mostly rich people from Guadalajara or Mexico city with horrible spanish mixed with English..the reason Spanish speakers born in the US use words or sounds like "um" or "so" is because they can't remember words in Spanish so they say "um" to take time and think what they need to say.
@@ccchk1 Have you heard people from Monterrey Nuevo León?
we also have fresas in venezuela, but i’m not sure they have anything to do with mexican fresas or the US
@@sundogsun los fresas son gente de dinero habitualmente bastante arrogantes, como son en venezuela?
Chilangos!
There is no doubt American English is easily transferred between people by the massive American media production. but I think that the superlative or the extreme way of speaking is a product of using and addicting social media services that encourage every extreme tweet, post. pic or Idea. I agree with you that it is a trend in life in general. I'm Egyptian Arabic native speaker and I can notice it.
I’d also note “like” is used to signify paraphrasing. (Coming from a Valleyspeaker myself haha)
“I was talking to Cam and he was like ‘nobody told me that!’” Carries a different meaning to “I was talking to Cam and he said ‘nobody told me that!’” The second sentence signifies that I’m directly quoting him, but the first means I’m paraphrasing what he said, he might’ve said something differently but it carries the same meaning of “no one told me.” ✌🏽
Exactly what I said. It's actually honest to say "like." It means it's not a direct quote. It's also saying "similar to" (which is the actual meaning of the word "like"). That's why it's a brilliant word. So I watched this video and was like, whatever
I’m an Iranian American who moved to Los Angeles and happen to live in a portion of LA area that is called “the valley”. Even though I went to high school here I did my best not to speak like that
Good. It's trashy.
@@neutralnarration1463 also sounds non classy.
@@captaincurd2681 that’s literally what trashy means lol
Thats a big ooof for my cousins who swore she and her brother wouldn't have that accent and since he was so gay she caught the accent and when they came back after 6 years of university they both have this valley girl accent and always adds that uhm and so and totally and literally in their sentences and their sentences are structured like questions. Hahah 🤣 and my relatives started to assume they were dumb or something because they keep on engaging conversations with more questions. Since the understanding and comprehension of english here isn't contextual
9:55 "Ok guys, if you like, haven't already, like, hit the like button."
This phenomeon is not limited to American english, i think this "Valley-girlification" is universal. In Turkey this is how all people younger than 25 speak like. Im sure it also happens all over the world
Do you mean the tiki girl who speaks through the nose? Like "Mert neredesııan? Evet evinin önündeyim ağğbiııe."
@@bulk7133 Yes, I specifically had that intonation in my mind!
@Koriander Yander
It originated in A California valley, namely the San Fernando Valley, or just "the Valley". The major cities in the LA "Annex" are Northridge, Arleta, Canoga Park, Chatsworth, Encino, Glendale, Granada Hills, Lake View Terrace, Mission Hills, North Hollywood, North Hills, Pacoima, Panorama City, Porter Ranch, Reseda, Sherman Oaks, Studio City, Sun Valley, Sunland, Sylmar, Tarzana, Toluca Lake, Tujunga, Van Nuys, Valley Village, West Hills, Winnetka, and Woodland Hills.
The best known LA through-streets, there, are Mulholland, Van Nuys, Ventura, Sepulveda, Cahuenga, Brand, Marbro, EE Horton, & Devonshire to name a few.
We have to suffer this annoying way of speaking in French too "Genre, le mec m'a dit que, genre, il était, genre,..."😅
@tzjyoutube..it brings back my 3 vacations in the valley area,especially Burbank,Pasadena,and Sun Valley..even downtown..omg..how l miss those food markets,Mexican bodegas ,guitar centers and thrift stores..l cant wait for a new tourist visa to visit my friends there
Greetings from Havana, Cuba.
I'm learning English and I am impressed with this video about accents because a lot of people keep trying to imitate a valley girl looking for the appearance of sounding "more natural". By the way, Luke, your diction and pronunciation are amazing! I understood everything you said. You got a new subscriber right now!!
Yes, they think that being a stereotypical, North-American, spoilt brat is cool
I'm from the UK and I'm in my 40s and have spoken this way for a loooooong time! Thanks for your video:)
It's from girls who hung around San Fernando valley shopping malls, popularized by Moon Zappa's record "Valley Girl" that came out in the late 70s. It has a lot of overlap with surfer English.
This is such a perfect explanation
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I believe the reason that "like" started being used a lot is the lack of vocabulary, which has been a thing in california for many teenagers not to be good in school reulting in a large lack of vocabulary!
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Not true.
@@larrysmith2123 what is the reason then?
@@hannuvepsalainen74 because they want to be rebellious towards their parents. Every generation has their own lingo, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s etc..Pretty common sense dear.
@@larrysmith2123 well this thing has gone on longer than a decade and it is a thing that has persisted and gotten worse, lingos come and go, not stay and get worse.
Spot on! Origin: San Fernando Valley - mid 1970s. Popularised by Frank Zappa's song, 'Valley Girl' in 1982. Spread internationally via the film, 'Clueless'. 1. Upward intonation at the end of most sentences (as if you're asking a question). 2. The word 'like' used where it should not be used (always excessively). 3. The voice also taking on that raspy downward tone as if you have a sore throat. These are all things that have sadly, reached as far as the UK. The original teenage Valley Girls would be in their 50s and 60s now. BTW, the word 'so' at the beginning of every sentence was popularised by 'Seinfeld'. I know companies that won't hire people who speak as above.
I'm German and I LiTeRalLy feel like everybody started to say "und ich war nur so....", which is close to a translation of " I was like..." a few years ago in Germany. So the valley girl seems to even spread lIkE even further than the english language itself does.
Very interesting video by the way, quite enjoyed it!
Indonesian too. The younger generation in Jakarta is starting to use the word "kayak" which means "like" as a filler in every sentence. I think this californian accent is spread all over the world
Same in swedish, but I think it has been here for 20 years ish maybe? Young people say "o ja ba" which is a sloppy way of saying "och jag bara" which is the same as "and I was like"
Und ich so : "Hä? Dieses "Oh, mein Gott " wird auch so VOLL häufig benutzt, und so !" Ey, voll Hammer. (Valley is, like, SO ev-ry-where...! Peeps talking so grody...)
@harveydent302 “Oh mein gott” hits different though.
The “OMG” moment was so funny lol
It's like u r dreaming & speaking simultaneously.
Te mamasté jajajaja (it means lmao)
@@christiansarrazin8564 lol
I goddamn said this in a valley girl accent, and oh my gawd it’s like totally perfect.
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Man, you nailed it. You are genius!!! Like totally, like literally, OMG...:)) Liked and subscribed! You deserve millions of views and likes!!!!! Like Totally...
You forgot the high pitched Voices!
Like: Ooooooh Nooooooo(high pitched)
My shoes...
After hearing a valley girls' conversation for three minutes or so, I start to understand why shows such as Downton Abbey even exist, and their stylish way of exchanging thoughts grows on me, lmao.
Thats because Downton Abbey is selling a myth of posh British times, that was lost decades ago already.....its kinda banal. Upstairs Downstairs is the real shit, the queen likes this serie. Jeeves and Wooster is real intellectual comedy, or rather P.J. Wodehouse in general, like "Pigs have Wings". i mean....Wodehouse stories are the fav. books of Fry.
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This was so good. 😂👍
So these valley girls are making things or situations extravagant. They're kind of being mellowdramatic while expressing their thoughts and emotions. Because they personally might feel like whatever is happening in their life is so important and a really big deal and no one has ever experienced anything like that before.🧐
Indeed, they shall learn having a "stiff upper-lip".
It’s actually an indicator of a serious personality disorder. It’s called Impressionistic Speech and it happens because these people lack empathy and a normal range of emotion. They are theatrical psychopaths who destroy lives. If this is becoming standard American English, be afraid. I associate it with I’m insincere “social justice” types these days. I think they associate it with “being Liberal.” That accent has nothing to do with being genuinely progressive, yet they keep affecting it. They also think it makes them sound young.
Vally girl accent actually makes me not that afraid to talk in English cuz i can literally, like just use the word like when I was like totally forgetting about what the word is, and so it gives me time and helps me relaxed to re-member or re-phrase what I wanna say. It's just so powerful and easy.
So I guess I talk like a valley girl. Except for the weird nasally thing.
So for you, this is a lesson about learning the nasally thing. You’re one step away from mastering the art
@@CloudEnglish LMAO
Lol I've been calling it the "white girl twang" for the longest time... didn't know there was already a term for it.
🙄 Dude! Valley girls come in like a range of colors. It's like, totally bitchin'🤘
@@lolamello2680 😂😂😂😂
In Italy, people living in Milan have adopted this way of talking into their ordinary way of speaking
0:30 "The Valley" is the San Fernando Valley in the city of Los Angeles which is a little (12 miles) north of downtown. Also the city of San Fernando is in the valley but it's separate from and surrounded by LA.
It is easy to learn as a non native speaker because when I say “like” or “um” al lot, I can ignore grammar rules to a certain extent, and gain a second or two of thinking time.
Ohhh my god, I like never realized it but... I’m like so totally a valley girl and like I literally never realized it. OMG
😂😂😂
I'm like pleased to know these so, literally, totally, you know!
I'm Indonesian and i can say that this valley girl accent influenced city society, millenials, gen Z especially in Jakarta and mixed up with Indonesian language and local language, such as bahasa jaksel for example.
Bahasa jaksel created as a product of young Jakartan mentality and perspective towards american culture which sounds "cool and stylish" to them. You'll find a lot of this in urban areas and spoken by high schoolers and upper middle teenagers, but this is spread to rural areas too, since Indonesian internet penetrators are more than 123 M, it spread rapidly, and it affected other local languages,styles and accents too.
Thanks to Internet, Tiktok, Instagram, it changed everything.
Agree
Yeah. Even now we put the word "kayak" -which is the translation of "like"- and put it as a filler in every sentence
Im a japanese girl then i learn valley girl English. So this video totally useful for me
oh my god this video is literally the best
Thanks for this good video. As a foreigner, I was always asking myself why the Kardashians seem to speak a "different" type of English, especially in terms of their intonation. Also, learners of English as a foreign language are told that words ending in -ion (condition, expectation, tradition, etc.) have the stress on the last but one syllable (conDItion, expecTAtion, traDItion). However, the Ks put the stress on the last syllable (condiTION, expectaTION, tradiTION). Is this typical of valley girl English?
I can agree with you. I also noticed that I am also slowly being influenced by this "valley girls" accent. Thankfully, I don't talk like that in person but often talk like one through chat. If I were to avoid this habit, I should try to use new filler words because I wanted to talk more formally and appropriately.
Back in the 1960s, Playboy magazine ran several "Little Annie Fanny" cartoons. They were VERY funny, and one of them included a hippie girl talking about the groovy "experience" she was having and every nth word was "like." So this "like" stuff has been around for at least that long, and probably longer. Some say as far back as the 19th century.
Buddy I enjoy the contrast of your normal talking and the talking examples you made, you might have guess I am still learning English, thanks for the video
I learned a lot and totally agree to your theory. I think recent Korean has the same trend too. Thank you!
I think that more than an accent, it is a personality trait or an attitude. It probably exists all over the world. There's an equivalent of the "valley girl" in Spanish as well, including every other country that speaks some type of Spanish.
In Mexico we call them "fresa (gender neutral)" or "freson (if it's a boy)", "fresona (if it's a girl). Also, when someone in Mexico says "she/he speaks with a potatoe in his/her mouth" we mean that the person is "fresa" in an indirect way lol. The word "fresa" in this context is used as a slang, but the formal meaning of the word "fresa" is "strawberry" in English.
I have to do this accent an upcoming play. Thank you for the help!
Yassssssss!
also there is this vocal fry and the high pitched voice at the end of sentences as if every sentence ends in a question mark.
Been meaning to understand this "like" thing thankfully found this channel!
She's a spirit that possesses people who watch too much reality TV. God bless
Great piece of analysis. I literally enjoyed it. 😂
im not a native speaker, someone told me i'm trying to imitate a valleygirl accent when until now that i searched i didnt even know what it was! i think english is becoming a valley accent in general!
I feel there is a kind of gravitational force within u which doesn't follow one of the rule of Newton's Law coz there is no falling back if thrown up either it's ur motivation, enthusiasm, exitement etc. It is as higher as sky.
That’s high praise :)
Like, a lot of Aussies speak like this too, like, literally, a lot!
californication by red hot chili peppers makes this exact point
I learned english through youtubers so.... i only speak valley girl......
I'm an Indonesian guy who speaks with like, a thick valley girl accent. when speaking english, like, I never even go to the U.S. let alone Cali. even most of my friends find it literally confusing. like. I NEVER EVEN WATCH THE KARDASHIAN SHOW OR FOLLOWING THEM IN SOCIAL MEDIAS. although, a friend of mine said that I do have a "natural" valley girl accent. like, dude. so confusing.
A man with that accent comes off homosexual. I'd suggest you work out of that accent.
@AliR what.
As a female from NorCal I say “like” a LOT...and totally...and so...but I don’t talk like the drugged out girl you impersonated! 😂
Thank you for your explanation.
I was a teen in the 80s and it's seemed to me that starting in the 80s and until today teenage girls all over the USA speak valley and then have to unlearn it as adults, whether consciously or unconsciously. This is nothing new. But what we call valleyspeak has changed over the years. definitely vocal fry and the tired-speak you describe seems to be a later addition. That was not part of valleyspeak in the 80s.
But as for LIKE... that started more as hipster/slacker thing in the 60s. Although it wasn't yet the filler-word it became later. See ua-cam.com/video/1BrAg0ouxXk/v-deo.html It spread to surfers and thence to valley girls. And then everywhere.
Yes. I notice the 80s valley girl accent was overly energetic in their words and in how they animated they are. It seems like the exaggeration in their wording has not left, although the animation is much less and has more of a "lazy" feel to it now.
Majority of girls AND guys under 30 speaks like this now unfortunately. But the core are young women (unless she is an intellectual or part of a black, hispanic etc. culture). What I really hate about it is that every expression they give off is calculated. They grin a lot or have a emotionless face, but they never explode in laughter or suddenly become sad because of what you said. It comes off as very fake and insincere and usually the people that have these heavy accents actually are just that lol.
@@jjsan27 I hate to hear that but maybe it is a regional or class related thing. My son is 20 and I don't remember hearing any of his peers have any valley in their speech. We are in the midwest. But I recognize the stereotype. It is exaggerated in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. But now that I think about it... I remember hearing that speech pattern in the midwest guys i would have called potheads in the 80s. but only those guys.
@@frederickburke9944 Makes sense. Most people I know that come from midwest sound normal imo. The "MTV" accent is very concentrated here in coastal california but sprinkles a bit throughout the nation.
Too much pot made people think shower so they had to add Like to take breaks between words with actual meaning 🤣
OMG I’m like sooo offended by this. I literally don’t talk like this! Just kidding! I thought this was very funny. I showed my husband your video and afterwards, he counted the number of times I said these words. It’s official: I talk like a valley girl!
You even type like a valley white girl lol
I talk like this too. Although not that much.
I talk like one too 😭
@@rubiojesse4991 she does, doesn’t she?
@@anj4461 I’ve tried to cut down on it but I still talk like one and it annoys me.
i literally was talking to this girl from the Hood (South Central LA) whose friends literally (actually) constantly accuse her of "sounding white" and sounding like a valley girl. we had to watch this video together to try to figure out how that could be, since she is born and bred hood. well, somehow she does lol it's spreading even into the hood apparently!!!
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I'm from South Central LA, and I can vouch for your comment because I hear it too from the younger girls on the block
@@hoodmistressreloaded yup, she's younger! thanks for your comment
@@HollywoodTacticool I used to get that same heat when I was younger too. Folk told me I "sounded white" and accused me of listening to Alanis Morissette when I would rather listen to LL Cool J and 2Pac. Now when I speak, people always mistake me for somebody from Brooklyn 😂🤣
As an older Valley Girl, I don't know where this came from..certainly after my childhood. Something I learned after moving down South (Alabama) was "Um kye", in stead of OK...drove my mom nuts!
Is that “kye” said like “kay” or “key”?
I'm from colombia, and here we have this thing too, so crazy.
6:01 lol as someone from southern california, I tend to say like: ohmygodialmostdiedtodayinmathclass, instead of like "oh my god! i almost died in math class"
omg you so totally nailed it omg.
I love Vally Girl accent
Ari is so cute😍
This video is eye opening! Your last sentence may be where the world is headed lol
My whole life I’ve been told I have a valley girl accent I don’t see it but I’ve lived in southern Cali like my wholeeeee lifeee
This is absolutely literally awesome vídeo pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee come on..! So so so ENCINO...!
Since today I'm gonna start shadow your accent I was looking for someone that I like his way of speech and I picked you
Why thank you, Mister Potter
And may I just add that I think you married the wrong woman
I regret about it everyday believe me !!
You're a genius, you figured it out, I was thinking about the same thing for a long time, this is like a virus... lol.
This documentary is like totally awesome to the max
I am 50, I grew up in SoCal back in the 70s and 80s. I don't know why, perhaps because I am male or just too old to be caught up in this but I thank the gods I don't speak with a Southern Californian accent. I don't use the vocabulary of a valley girl and never use up talk. I think my only sin in this regard is excessive vocal fry.
I love this breakdown!🤓
Very good, thanks a lot!
I am Mexican and I’m from LA but I did not grow up in the valley at all and honestly I do say like a lot😬
Its true, I just to be teased hard in FL for saying like! Chicano english was actually the influence. I started hearing college students talking like me at some point and it is wild.
Hey. I live in Asia. Here English teachers & influencers promote this way of speaking as "sounding more like native English speaker"
this is so weird because when i think about it i do sound like valley accent american. and its weird. and english is my second language and i dont know how to change it. it comes naturally. i need help seriously.
Nice try..'Like' as an interjection predates Valley Girl by about 30 years..'like' was used by beats and jazz musicians as far back as the forties ..Valley Girl is more characterized by upspeak and vocal fry, linguistically speaking
I'm from Southern California, and I can confirm this. I honestly hate the "valley girl" accent. Maybe it could be because even though I was raised in Los Angeles my whole life (born next door in the city of Inglewood), I tend to be mistaken for somebody from Brooklyn or Queens (due to family friends from NYC and listening to East Coast Hip Hop). I'll admit, I sometimes catch myself when I let a "like" slip out my mouth every blue moon
OMG, you’re literally like 100% right… Totally mindblowing, right?
I'm from Argentina (I live here but travel and work using english) and I speak English since I'm a kid. But valley accent really fucked me up and I can't stop, essentially taken from Kardashians and tík toks, basically media. It's funny because I started like a joke but liiiiike now is literally like myyyy way to speak (and with latin accent too) hahahahahdk need to stop
It's literally a trap.. like, literally.
Since I was a kid.
@@fernandocastro8696 yes, when I don't use the language often I start to write pretty bad
If you want to get a good job STOP all Valley Girl, Kardashian-speak and voice fry. Learn new words every day from word a day emails.
I'm from the northeast part of the USA and dated a guy who was from Chilé for a little. When we first met he couldn't speak English very well yet. We use to always joke around because no matter WHAT he was saying when he spoke in English he would always take on this "surfer dude" accent and couldn't help it no matter how hard he tried LOL
Admirable how you get through this with almost no show of contempt. As a German who only learnt some British English I find this "dialect" quite, if not totally, ugly. Like.
LOL U're always on point Luke, how in the hell I didn't notice I became a valley girl b4. Hahaha now people will say all of us millennials are the ones who started this😒. Thanks 4 always sharing updated content, keep it up!
IKR!!!
I watched this video, and I was like, "OMG, this is totally what I wanted to know!".
I was thinking "Valley" means "San Fernando Valley" because that called "The Valley" in The Karate Kid/Cobra Kai franchise.
오늘 또 새로운 지식을 배웠다. 감사합니다.
Like, and um, are filler words. Through Toastmasters I reduced them. Just pause. We do this because if we dont fill we get interrupted
There might be more to it. Many young people now drop the long "a" sound and turn it into an "o" sound. "That" is pronounced kind of like "thot." Also, "class" is pronounced like "closs." "Than" is spoken like "thon." Kinda sorta.
What do you think?
Brooo guilty as charged I grew up in the 80's in Maryland and alot of my friends talked that back then. But to be honest we weren't trying act dumb it was just common speech. Like my cousin was like. And I was like and he was like...my aunt thought we were crazy but that was a normal way of holding a conversation. I don't have a problem with ppl who talk valley.
English is not my first languange but I deffinetly speaking with the valley accent coz I watch Laguna Beach and The Hills a lot.
i moved to the hood from the suburbs around middle school and people could not stop pointing out my "accent" which always just sounded default to me. But now I hear people of all walks of like talking in approximations of this style, or rather a blend of the style with whatever their dominant cultural background is.
Hi! This video just made me to become your new subscriber! Just a quick question tho…. I’ve lived in the States for about a decade but I feel like I still sound like a foreigner. It’s not a matter of pronunciation, I think it’s definitely accent problem. I’m trying to find an American actress whom I can mimic&practice accent from, but I don’t know if the “valley girl” English would be the most elegant, intelligent, and native-like English to stick to. What do you think? And who would you recommend?
You’re spot on and it drives me crazy!!
Hope this is a lesson for people and not a….
“Ohhh myyy gawddd,I sooo talk like thissssss,like I’m soooo cuuute.
Like I’m 57’7777 and still put my haaaaur in pony tails but like,literally everyone says I’m soooo cute”
Which is all over the comments.
Yeah it’s not even professional at McDonald’s.
Valley girl is how the Kardashian's speaks
LA valley girls be like "omg, like, i heard you guys have like a special on, like, all frappacinos today??????? like omg, im, like, totally dying for like, a caramel frap today?????? like, omg?????????????"
"??????, ya, ??????? and one of ??????? plz?????? ya thank you ???????????????"
This video is excellent.
Thanks for uploading it, I will use it for one of my EFL lessons.
Why is it called valley?
Los Angeles valley from late ‘90s / San Fran Valley from the ‘60s
This reminds me of back when I was 14 years old and talking to a boy on AOL instant message about sneaking out to meet up with each other. Well, I didn’t understand all the slang at the time, lol. I asked about his parents.. like how he would get away with it and he told me that his dad was “passed out”. I said, “omg, is he okay?!” Because I didn’t know it was slang for asleep. 😂 I feel embarrassed thinking back on that.
this reminds me of the word 'cool' and how this word was created and spread. This accent has also being spread through the media; either bc media is very cali influenced, or because a group of folks wants everyone to talk like that.
Sitting here cracking up.. omg that's like so me. Didn't know i talk like that. I'm from the valley Madera CA.
Vocal Fry is alive
I agree with the like part, sometimes I find myself asking my friends did you think that or did you said that when they are relating a story to me
Likklkkkkleeeeeeee ooooooooh mmmmmmmmy jooooossssssh
I'm from Poland, and I fucking hate it with all my heart. Totally.
Damn it !!!! I use a Lot that " I was like " expression and also "so" for this or for that, does it mean that I am speaking wrong English? Is it good for boys to speak like that?
Not wrong, just annoying. But there is no real reason to stop talking like that. Heck I even talk like a valley girl at times. I’ll find myself unconsciously using like and ending a sentence as If its a question.
If you use the word "literally" the Californian way it means you're literally speaking incorrect English... I'm so starting to talk like that and I hate it because it's really stupid and grammatically incorrect.😳
@@elainebenez1069 😃😃😃😃
@@abel82 what?
Omg! You even got the creaky voice right. That's dope, dude
I'm so afraid of this phenomenon. All Canadian young girls are speaking like this already. I thought it was a standard Canadian accent. I've been instinctively thinking it sounded super super annoying !! Omg!!!!