This is why Lee Anderson's constituents can't stand him
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2023
- Tory party deputy chairman Lee "30p" Anderson has caused outrage by coming out in favour of bringing back the death penalty.
We asked the people he represents what they think.
Reporter: Ed Campbell
Camera: Oli Johnson
Producer: Laura Beveridge
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We can't get a doctor or dentist. That's life.
No it's not, it's because you vote Tory.
🤣😂
Lol. Preach.
haha truth
This community is not exactly a Tory stronghold.
If more of the former labour voters, felt the labour was in a better place they would vote labour - as you heard many are staying home on election day.
Anderson whether you like him or loathe him got voted in because Labour was weak - Anderson was a labour man for many years - I assume that may be a comfort to the disenchanted former labour voters in Ashford.
Would be same under labour invite the unskilled 3rd world to our country to use our International Health Service. Free for the world at the point of use
For some people this Tory Government is already a death sentence.
300,000 excess deaths due to Tory austerity apparently. Austerity was a political choice remember, not necessity, and all it suceeded in doing was the fastet growth in inequality ever seen in this country.
Well said.
@@kyorin6526 and still 500 a week now
Yes, its a sentence for the people who keep country running like industry workers, nhs workers, postal workers, Amazon workers, etc.
@@kyorin6526 Where'd you get that, The Guardian? 🙄
"I can't get a dentist, but they can. So kill them"
And he gets the same say on society as the rest of us
The man has grown older but none the wiser.
Scary!
If he was thinking it through, he'd go do some robberies to claim his free dental!
That made me laugh, very succintly put in perspective
'Stoopid keepin em alive' Yeh, funny you say that, I think that about some pensioners, mate....
I am not bothered about the death rate, I’m thinking of the money. Sounds like a true Tory!
"Let the bodies pile high" - Boris Johnson
The money that will never benefit him.
The thing is that, at least in the US, with the cost of trial and appeals etc., it is far more expensive to carry out an execution than it is finance a life sentence.
Old boy knows what he wants and why lol smh
It's bloody Nottinghamshire, they live in the past there. My father-in-law was from near here, he was a hang them, flog them Tory, ex Malaysia Policeman, back when they were an extension of MI5.
Im convinced that if we stopped pensioners from voting this country would be a far more fairer and forgiving society.
The reason why its shit, is because its a fairer and a more forgiving society.
It was
So true! I'm sure most people have thought this for years!🖕
17 million voted for Brexit. Nearly 14 million voted tory at the last GE. You can't tell me that they were all old and crinkerly.
I think if we stopped the young who have no stake in society voting the country would be much stronger and safer
'How did you vote'
'I went down to the local polling station...'
Also I get a sense of Chris Morris comedy
That is one of the greatest lines I have ever heard looool
I will be using that myself from now on , quality
To be fair, he answered the question. The question was ambiguous.
@@thegoat11111 well yeah that's the joke
Seems like a nice lad, though
Nobody likes to admit they voted Tory.
If you want to reduce crime .... reduce poverty
Cause all murderers kill cause they are a bit short on money ok 🤡🤡
@@ryanfraser167 he didn't say that though did he
Correct
And make things legal, when it's your chums doing it.
That is also my view just look at other countries with high unemployment rates
"We can't get a dentist." Whose fault is that, old fella? 🤔
To be honest people who thought Boris was "such a laugh".....they voted.
Plus on here they have said bring him back.....to make more mess than we have already had.
Voted them in to get Brexit done but didn't look at their policies. Which by the way don't help the working classes 1 little bit!!
Only now are people waking up...took them long enough.
What's his problem, he's got no feckin teeth anyway
His own 😂😂😂
Years and years and years from all governments!!!!
@@kathleenfederl5121 Who voted for those governments? 🤔
That old guy - "They get treated like royalty" "Birching on a Saturday morning" 🤣 What a delight he is!! holy Shit!
The thing that gets me. How shit must your life and circumstances actually be? To look prisoners and think they get treated like royalty.
probably lees mate
If he honestly thinks they get treated like royalty then why doesn't he commit a crime and end up in jail
If we had birching proportional to the amount stolen we'd run out of trees before we were half way finished with Michelle Mone.
Good lad !! Can we get tickets!! 🤣🤣
God these videos always make me feel so embarrassed to live in this country.
England, you mean? The UK is three countries and part of Ireland. And none of the rest of us voted the Tories in with an eighty seat majority.
All the stupid people, where do they all come from 🎶
Living in the US can be just as embarrassing- but I think we all know that 😢!!
no worries. every country has morons.
The Tories know it ,that's why they concentrate on feeding their fan base .
Well that was kind of encouraging, that most of 30p lying Lees constituency don't support him. Also for the old man talking about getting an appointment to see a doctor or dentist, do you know why you can't? Because of the Tory party, also I was involved in an accident rushed to hospital and a surgeon was woken up to work on me.. so nothing new there.
We start getting into dangerous territory when we deny medical care to people on the basis of what they might have done instead of their medical need .What next ? Dont treat the overweight , anyone who drinks alcohol , Muslims , Jews , Christians , Atheists , Tory , Labour , Lib Dem or Green voters , anyone over 80 . Where do we draw the line ?
The problem with the death sentence is there’s no room for error. There’s too many cases of people serving long sentences and then being found innocent decades later.
5% of death row inmates in the US were found to be innocent when investigations were re-examined by charities or projects.
I disagree.
Even if we could ever be 100% certain that a certain person committed a crime, killing them is barbaric. "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind". Two wrongs do not make a right.
Of course the "innocent people will be killed" is a useful rhetorical tool, but if that's the only thing stopping us from wholesale slaughter then we have bigger issues.
@@TheMatthooks I think we would agree that there are multiple reasons for abolishing the death penalty & for me which ever of those reasons can be used to end it will be good. Unfortunately the discourse on the death penalty is generally based on emotions instead of facts or evidence
Well if there's any possibility of error then you don't carry out the death sentence. Simple. Another way is to put a rope and a chair in the cell and it's their choice.
@@squizza28 A number of murderers do kill themselves or are killed by another prisoner.
Pot holes are county council issue, but county councils have been defunded by roughly 70% since austerity started.
Vote out the politicians that are pro austerity to get council funding back.
judging by the fancy houses and cars councillors all seem to have, i dont think they are underfunded....
@@888ssss Thats personal wealthy, not the council, itself.
@@888ssss It hasnt come from the wage cuts
I live on the same road as a local transport counciller... Its very potholey round here but strangely not on my road!
@@ThorneyPolitics syphoning fat salaries, privy to property deals and golden pensions probably.
@@888ssss councillors dont get a wage. In Leeds City Council, where I work, councillors can claim a stipend of up to £15,000 a year for expenses. Not much for a full time job. The fact that we don't pay councillors means that generally only wealthy and older people can afford to be a Councillor. It won't pay your rent.
I once saw 30p Lee in a Commons select committee where he was surrounded by various experts and charities dealing with homelessness and the poor. They testified over the rising rates of poverty and patiently explained why.
30p Lee however, declared that the amount of poverty was vastly overstated and that the problem wasn't "as bad as everybody was making out".
His "well researched" evidence for this is that he went round his local primary school and demanded that they hand over the list of families the names, addresses and phone numbers of those families that were on income support and were getting free school meals.
Needless to say, the school quite rightly told hi that they couldn't divulge such information even if he is an MP (i.e. "sod off"), so instead he asked the school to get these parents to call HIM.
And because nobody called him up, he concluded that the the rates of poverty across the COUNTRY are vastly exaggerated.
30p Lee - a mind like a bacon slicer.
amazingly its old and crinkerly that are for death sentence and whipping, i am old and crinkerly and they dont talk in my name
Me too !
Top man 💜
"They get treated like royalty" - has he been to any prisons lately?
Even if he did visit any prison, he wouldn't visit with an open mind.
I think he'd only be happy with Dickensian prisons
It just makes no sense when people say stuff like that because if they honestly believed it was so cushy in jail then why isn't he trying to get locked up?
Probably not , he read in in the Daily Express .
Bloody hell, who'd have thought people like this exist. Only one person really spoke sense and that was the woman who was interviewed outside the bakery.
But she does restore one's faith in human nature, at least a little. And remember that the editor would have decided which interviews to include in the video.
@@stephengraham1153 Ye ol troll using yet another username.
@@brendansparks1511 I have never trolled in my life. Neither have I ever voted tory and will never do so. My memory of Thatcher and the damage she caused to the UK is too strong for me to forgive. To me, brexit is just another crime committed against the UK by the tories - I am a hardcore Remainer. But you can't just exclude certain age groups because you don't agree with their views. Whats next? Excluding younger voters because they are not mature enough to make political decisions. And then certain religious groups and then other minorities and before you know it the UK will become riddled with discrimination, much more so than it is now. With a few very minor exceptions, every citizen of voting age should have the right to vote. You win by persuasion and the force of you arguments, not by excluding groups of people just because you don't like their views.
@@stephengraham1153 Please accept my apologies, I confused your username with a far right troll who uses scores of usernames on UA-cam.
@@brendansparks1511 Apology accepted.
Imagine if any of these thickos ended up on a jury. Chilling.
That's why they have 12, so statistically you won't have more than 8 of them. Most of the time, anyway. See also: Danny Day.
Having served on a jury multiple times, I can tell you the majority of the British public have been led astray by idiots.
My uncle did jury duty a few years ago. When the jurors were discussing the case, one old dear's argument for a conviction was "Well, he looks guilty."
Christ on a bendy bus.
It really frustrates me. That older guy right at the start seems angry that prisoners have access to a dentist.
I wish there was a way to help him understand that the fact he doesn't have access to a dentist isn't because of people in prison. It's because of people like Lee Anderson.
No wonder 30p is an MP with voters such as these. God help us all!
Thicker than concrete milkshakes the lot of them!
30p is now a Tory MP on 86k jumping through hoops to make rich people richer. He is beneath contempt and deserves zero respect. These people do deserve respect. They are real.
Democracy means representation.
What can Labour or Lib Dem offer the people of Ashford? What can be offered to improve the issues that matter to that community.
We do not all live our lives in the same way - Ashford need candidates who are more in touch with local issues and local priorities.
It’s incredibly hard to have any sympathy with some voters!
This is what caused Brexit, and People like Liz Truss being put into power as PM!
"How did you vote?"
"Down at the polling station."
Underrated response of the year
There are some really vile people in this country.
52% in 2016!
Most of them in the Tory party.
"There aren't enough dentists so lets 'ang prisoners", "Oh, no we shouldn't hang people unless they've done something", "am I allowed to say I don't like him?". "nobody can lie".
This was so painful to watch.
Many of the Immagrants are Running From Justice For Sickening Crimes Where do you thing lots of the Bad eggs go to Escape Syrian Iraqi etc Justice.... Look at a Dingy as an Egg Box as many as 1 in 6 of the Immigrants could pose a Threat.... Their littered with Radicals who use Soft Touch British Laws Laws that Are Less Sympathetic Elsewhere. Sweden is Knackered because of Immigrants or No Names as i call them!
Wow, some vile humans live there huh.
It's a very poor, deindustrialiased part of England. Neglected for decades by successive governments... and then snobby idiots like you make comments like that and wonder why these people continuously vote for far-right governments. They may not share your views on life, they certainly don't share mine, but about 50 years of Tory and Labour neglect have made these communities what they are now.
"How did you vote?"
"I went down the lane to polling station."
I love people😅
That was the absolute highlight for me.
And he votes Liebour
@@seantaylor6154 turns out you don't have to be a genius to know the Tories are corrupt.
@@seantaylor6154
Funny……and clever !!
The guy who annoyed me a bit was the one who wanted to remain in the EU but didnt vote . How many others like him are there ?
Fun Facts:
-Killing people costs *more* money than life imprisonment.
-Executions *at best* have a minimum of 4% innocent death rate.
-Complaining people don't get locked up for long enough is a reason to lock people up for longer, not to kill them.
-If a murderer has no right to take a life, neither do you, and neither does someone in a position of power. You are not the arbiter of life or death, and our judges shouldn't be either.
Can you citate an example of cost of the death penalty? I don't support it, but I don't believe that executing someone is more expensive than say funding Dale Creagan living 50yrs in prison on a whole life tariff.
Correct!
@@henners9747 www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/76th2011/ExhibitDocument/OpenExhibitDocument?exhibitId=17686&fileDownloadName=h041211ab501_pescetta.pdf
There's also a video by the youtuber Shaun, a bit older, who did some research and has sources.
now do you have any data to back up your "facts" or are they "feeling" facts ?
@@henners9747 no he cant. 1 is lie with nothing to back it up
2 sounds has no data to back it up.
3 and 4 and literally just opinions.
‘I didn’t vote and I was shocked when my candidate didn’t win…’where do they find these folk?
The Daily Mail must fly off the shelves in that town.
I wish the mail would fly off and never come back, along with all the other Murdoch hate rag's !
It is more a Sun and Express area .
Roston Vasey.
"Maybe it'll stop petty theft", ah yes, let's have the death penalty for people that steal a loaf of bread. What an absolute helmet.
Isn’t that the plot of Les Mis??
When you have the death penalty for things that aren't murder the likelihood of the perpetrator murdering the victim has expecially increased.
If we have the death penalty for theft you won't have a ceo of a coperation or a tory member left. Wait a minute.
He was talking about birching there, not capital punishment. Still barbaric, mind.
The two ladies seemed to be the sanest people interviewed.
That's often the case.
Brilliant answer to anyone who asks: how did you vote on 'live TV' ('I went down to the polling station 🤣)
Also, why specifically a printer? I mean of all the things one might steal during a burglary.
@@obey7T5 ????
Reminds me of my Brother-in-law when told to paint the windows blue whilst serving in the Army, so he painted the windows not the frames!
@@davidyoung5830 I bet that ended well! 🤣
@@obey7T5 Didn't notice any mention of printers in that: 'Asking Lee Anderson's constituents if they'd bring back hanging.' clip you're commenting on EB.
To those complaining about the lack of dental care I would like to remind people that Corbyn at the 2019 GE offered a policy of free dentistry
Nothing is ever free though (it's free paid for by taxpayers)🤨 I like JC, but he can't win with those policies at all. I'm one of his constituents in Islington.
We had that anyway once upon a time in a fairy story.
Years ago it was all free.....
Tories have contracted out departments now...but nobody was taking notice.
Corbyn wanted free internet...utilities back under state control.
People laughed....till too late they realised that was a much better idea!!
@@HShango well you can win on such policies, the issue is you need an intelligent electorate and the LibDems have been offering free higher education for decades but ironically the electorate is too stupid to vote for it...
@@HShango god forbid we should have a fair tax system to pay for public health.
@@HShango I'd happily pay an extra quid or two on my tax return for you to get your gnashers looked at every now and again
"UNLESS. YOU. HAVE. A. CHILD." 😂
Kill me.
It is a known fact that only people with children know empathy and are important enough to be considered.
I'm liking how you're pushing back and probing their mindsets more... Shows how little a lot of them have actually thought about what they're saying
That's the way with the hard of thinking. 60 years ago they'd remember Ruth Ellis, Derek Bentley & be against it.
Most of the them don’t have the capacity to think.
Fascinating how old men close to the grave are eager to deal out death sentences like it’s candy!
"I can't get a dentist, so bring back hanging"
Reminds of a medieval doctors appointment:
"Doctor, I've got toothache"
"OK, lie down here"
'Decapitates patient with axe'
"Success, he hasn't got toothache any more, next!"
Very Monty python 😂
"I don't vote" - is shocked that things didn't go how they wanted. 🙄
Yes you meet eejits like that all over the country you also meet brexit voters who have ruined the country badly
"are you married, have you got children?" What so you understand what love is and i don't? People with kids are pretty insufferable at times.
Old Tory trying to say people not getting a doctor is life is incredible. That's not life. That's the Tory Regime.
Surely you don't expect logic and reason from someone that finds it a struggle to think and breathe at the same time?
The irony, ‘we can’t get a dentist’. Who was it that took these services away?
30p Lee Anderson and his chums?
@@davidyoung5830 The Tories..
The bastard complaining about theft when people can't afford to get food shows some of the issues with our country.
The murder rate per million in the US is four times higher than in the UK so it's definitely not a deterrent.
The bloke at around 5:40 - "stupid, keeping them alive and paying for everything they need". Interesting sentiment, spoken with passion, but I wonder how it would sound coming out of the mouth of someone talking about the sick and the elderly? "I'm just thinking about saving money." I wonder if our man there would still agree?
I'm starting to believe in the death penalty for thick pensioners
and the entire political class and doctors who jab people with experimental corporate-shareholder detritus and those who agree with it.
The lad in the leather jacket weren't a pensioner, how did you vote?. I went to the poling station.
They are not pensioners, they are senior citizens, and all age groups have thicko,s, I agree with you're sentiment though.
A waste of a vote and I'm sorry to say but also good oxygen
@@peterah7957 could you please explain what you mean, a vote for what, waste of oxygen for who. Thanks.
How is it possible to live to an old adult age and have gained so little information? I don't care whether someone does or doesn't support the death sentence, I'm more concerned about how many people happily form their opinions based on such little thought.
Mind Boggling ignorance about everything around them is incredible, they read and watch mainstream media and are brainwashed by it, because they never learned to think consequentially and so they vote accordingly and people like Lee Anderson take maximum advantage of it to raise himself above the rest of them! He knows their mindset and all he has to do is spout some nonsense that appeals to their sense of being exceptional and superior to this or that group of people and they fall for it every time. Just like many of the Germans did during Adolf Hitlers time! It is called manipulation of the population. Thomas Mann Highlighted the problem when he wrote "Mario und der Zauberer" (Mario and the Magician) in 1926 after a Holiday in Italy in 1921 as Mussolini and his fascists were on the rise and the experiences he had during that holiday. Lee Anderson and all his Tory chums are just like the Magician, most MP's have similar personality traits! Which is why the vast majority should never ever be allowed to stand for election! I'm all for professional psychological profiling of everyone that wants power over others!
Old man says prisoners are treated like royalty. Nice one
The Punishment is removal from society, people do not go to prison to be punished, incarceration and removal of liberty is the punishment.
@@davidyoung5830 yeah so people do go to prison to be punished. You just contradicted yourself completely
Maybe we could trial it with MPs. if it works, we can roll it out to the public
Yep let's start with 30p Lee !
Great idea!
Tory voter complaining he can’t get a dentist or doctor, as if he can’t connect that to the past 13 years of austerity cuts to nhs.
he should commit a crime if he's got toothache. haha..
The infection in his molars has spread to his brain
Full life prison sentence is best. Too many innocent people have been hanged.
Prisoners escape...
@@ryanfraser167 Well in that case just do away with prisons entirely or it's the death sentence for everyone, even stealing printers
@@ryanfraser167 name 1. Just 1 in the last,say, 20 years from a maximum security prison.
@@howarddavies6685 good question. I second it.
"How did you vote?" "I went down t'polling station at Moore Lane" LMAO Cracking answer.
Indeed funny and he meant it😂😂
@@susansantapola Exactly , he wasnt trying to be funny , he answered the question literally !
It's strange that many people cannot connect what is happening in this country with the Tory governments lack of policy and wait till the problem goes away strategy started by Johnson. We indeed live in strange times and need a general election very soon.
A lot more people said they don't support it than I thought which gives me a lot of hope.
If there was a death penalty for corrupt politicians........could the hangman cope with the volume of work ?
If there was a death penalty for corrupt politicians, there wouldn't be a death penalty.
If there was a death penalty for corrupt politicians, Lee Anderson would be claiming disability and other benefits, have a carer and a blue badge, and his house would be in his kid's name. The condition he'd be claiming for... Maybe a slight injury that had changed his life, or something clearly untrue he thought he couldn't be pinned down for.
To the guy that said "I dont vote, I didnt even vote in Brexit but I wanted to stay in" - there's a f*cking lesson in there if you look for it......
So a small majority of older people are bound and determined to destroy everything for the younger generation before they die off...
aha. but they got the timing wrong. now they are pension dependent in the face of the worse depression in history..... bad timing.
they already stuffed the young kids with brexit
@hugophurst7132 But they are still demanding their triple lock while everyone else gets worse off. They are the least effected.
@@chokolatelatte4764 Boomers have had the best of everything, a new NHS, endless council homes, retired at 60. They literally take it all for granted, it's still not enough for them.
Maybe they know better than young people... just possible?
Good god: I'd hoped the subject of whether or not state-sanctioned murder should be used as a mechanism of justice wasn't something we'd still need to debate in the UK. Hearing working class people casually say they'd agree with it is so grim, when miscarriages of justice are more likely for those in society who cannot afford to spend millions on lawyers. And the guy suggesting we should arm local police (in emulation of the USA) - has he not paid any attention to the multitudes of innocent Americans getting killed by the police?!
I think I need a strong drink tonight.
It's amazing and terrifying how incredibly thick so many 'older' people are in this country.
alot of them left school at 12 years old, or a bit older not exactly sure, and went into local jobs, manual labour low skilled but for the time and costs of living alot more decent wages than now or the recent past. i can see the difference between my mum and dad. mum left school at 12 and my dad left education at 18 or 19. my mums not the smartest. loves johnson and hates the tories. can't think logically beyond very simple examples. yet my dad is basically a philospher compared lol. very smart, great at maths and everything really hes talented but, they both came from the same backgrounds pretty much. on my dads side there was a bit of wealth and maybe slightly higer standard of living. my mums side a bit less well off but not by much.
in the younger generations you see alot more critical thinking ability, i really believe it comes from the higher standard of education, and more people going to university means younger people have much more life experience just living in another place for a time.
its very scary, we cant let education standards fall. i cant stand gammons and new age gammons will be absolutely mental in 30 years time when they mature
Not necessarily their fault. Education in this country has been underfunded in the past (and probably in the present too) because politicians do not want an educated working class, as we could then start asking awkward questions, and that would never do.
@@plokijplokij97 Not necessarily. Generations can differ.
@@karmah88 You don't sound too sure of yourself either. Just because you have your opinions doesn't mean to say that you are right and everybody who is an older generation than you is wrong. You could learn a lot from older generations who may have Iived through much harder times than you ever will, for example discipline, not having a sense of entitlement and many other things when life was different to what it is now with more manual occupations .than there are now.
Your comments on people going to university are incorrect. Universities are 'ten a penny' now with useless 'non subjects' like 'gender studies'. When these older people were in education, university was the destination for students who had ability, merit and competence, and standardsfor acceptance were higher. Too many ex graduates are leaving university now without common sense, the ability to command basic skills , and absolutely no critical thinking skills or life experience whatsoever. So sorry to disappoint you, that blows your theory out of the water. Plus universities were not 'woke indoctrination camps' like they are now and actually taught relevant subjects to prepare people for appropriate careers.
You seem to have a very one-sided view of others as proven by your 'I don't like gammons' comment ( i presume thats an insult) which seems to show that you show disdain for anyone senior and who may have valid comments and certainly more experience of life than you.
Before making such comments just think on that just because someone may be a lot older than you, they may also have legitimate reasons for believing what they do as their life experiences may have been different to yours. You'll be there yourself one day, don't forget.
@@sugarbertie1143 I was going to form a reply until I got to “woke indoctrination camps”. That’s a perfect example of ignorance.
And actual wokeism at its finest.
0:23 To be fair, he gave a perfectly reasonable answer to the question "how did you vote?". Reminds me a bit of one of my schoolmates who, when asked by our science teacher what hard water was, answered "Ice".
It's the risk of hanging the wrong person that is the REAL issue. It happened to too many in the past and was one of the reasons why we no longer have it.
plus now with deep fake tech how much can you really trust evidence?
I genuinely think most proponents of Capital Punishment arent bothered about that .They think it is a price worth paying ( until it is a member of their family of course ) .
"How did you vote?"
"I went down the polling station"
Love that dude lol
God help us.
Most of these people are how the tories want us, pliable and shallow thinking.
The poor and working would feel the brunt of that and the rich would never
So no change there then?
As a prison nurse, no, they are not treated like royalty.
“How did you vote?” - “I went t’polling station” Ahh bless. 😂😂😂
A good deflective answer.
@@colinireson9339True but I think he was caught off guard in this case. Made me chuckle anyway.
I can see why he was voted for in Ashfield.
Not the brightest bunch are they?
Plastic Yorkshiremen.
@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 It’s the midlands.
Killing 46 people vs stealing a printer 🤯
Blimey where do they find these people.
Outside Poundland on a Monday morning, whilst the people keeping the country afloat are at work.
@@superhumantrueman Like it!
The Tories are very unpopular at the moment, so it will be very interesting to see if Lee Anderson holds onto his seat. Watching this video it looks about 50:50. Personally I hope he loses.
the woman in the scarf gives me hope in my country. she is bang on and an inspiration.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
And before anyone complains, the same man said:
“democracy is the worst form of government - except for all the others that have been tried.”
as the ancient greeks discovered, democracy only truly works when politicians are honest and truthful and voters are informed. we have neither. tho 1 party is far worse than the rest
Wasnt it Churchill who said that ?
Ahh if only we did try democracy, but we haven't yet.
Very interesting to hear what his constituents have to say. I think we have moved on though from an-eye-for-an-eye. As many pointed out there have been far too many wrongfully convicted to ever go back. Plus, don't wish to be a backward country such as those that still have it. the death penalty is not and never is the solution to the problem. Thank you for bringing this to us, it is good to hear local opinion. Cheers
The plague of dims is endless, yet they get older each year.
Oh! So true!
We view prison so strangely in this country, we should see it as a form of rehabilitation and reform than a form of punishment. Even if you think of it in terms of money, a reformed.prisoner will make a return on investment in the form of tax
Agreed, but I get the impression that far too many do not know the difference between justice and revenge.
I'm sure criminals would love your softly softly gentle kind rehabilitation... almost makes going to prison a doddle, no punishment!
@@ryanfraser167 Most crime is committed out of desperation, it's an issue created by the environment we live in. Sure there will be a tiny group of people, like unrelenting psychopaths who can't be rehabilitated, in which a life long prison sentence will be necessary. The aim isnt to punish people for doing wrong, but to show them that there is an alternative.
@@ColourfulAnimalsno it's not, it's committed by lazy ppl who want something for nothing or are psychotic. I have zero sympathy for ppl that steal to fund their drug habit, go get a job and earn some money, come up with a business idea, stop taking my money from me through legalised theft (taxation) and crime. I have no tolerance for it or softy softy ppl like you. No wonder why UK is third world. Oh and prisons don't work because ppl escape from it.
@Ryan Fraser rehabilitation doesn't preclude punishment, nor does punishment necessitate daily whipping, stretching on the racks or listening to baby shark on repeat.
The goal of the justice system should be to end up with functional, law abiding citizens, not, as is currently the case, acting as training and recruitment centres for criminals :D
I would think "if you have kids", you would have more compassion. 🙄
I think we can guess which adult comics some of the "hang 'em high" types get their views from instead of actually analysing the issue or thinking for themselves. They deserve 30p Lee as their MP.
I don’t think someone should get the death penalty for steeling a printer! 🤣
Hey, we have to establish the basics before we get on to the heady stuff
And he wasn’t fvcking joking!
Worrying how many people seem to be ok with the death penalty, I didn't realise this was something people still had split opinions about
Hopefully no evidence clearing the executed will ever come to light, as it has in every country previously. The Innocence Project is a good source of information about this.
How did you vote?…. I went down to the polling station 😂😂😂
9:26 “I don’t vote, I’m one of these” You mean you have no interest in something that effects you, your ability to work and gain an income… this is so typical.. and quite sad really…politicians rely on people like this, having no interest in matters that effect their own lives and livelihoods…
i have not seen a police person where i live for 7 years, their station is closed
They’ve probably all been arrested.
They're quislings half the time anyway
And who is that down to?let me have a guess the tories maybe?
I feel so much more confident about the future of democracy after having watched this.
The gospel according to Gammon at some points. "Other than that, life's alright..." "I'm not bothered about the death rate; I'm bothered about the money..." "There's a terrible pothole darn 't'road..." Meanwhile back in Ukraine...
Very few US states still have an active death penalty, and it costs millions and takes on average 27 years to execute a prisoner, so it's more expensive than life sentences and it isn't a deterrent, plus conservative estimates are that maybe 10% of those executed were innocent, not to mention that it's almost always defendants without good lawyers that get death sentences, never ones with expensive council
Killers very rarely go free in the US... millions of killers are free walking the streets of Britain
Yes, the endless appeals process in capital punishment is far more expensive than a non-lethal sentence.
The country which you can get banged up just for jaywalking ,or being poor or black !
Watching this video, I'm reminded of Churchill:
"The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter."
I don't think anyone is against reform in the prison system but bringing back the death penalty is a step too far
Lee Anderson and the Tories should reap what they sow.
The brightest and the best definitely don't live in Ashfield.
death penalty for bank frauders in the city of london ?
Oh hon hon hon hon guillotine oui oui.
And tax avoiding tories?
The problem with modern policing is that vulnerable people, those with genuine mental health issues get charged for offenses without really being guilty. They are ill. I'm not talking about murder, but lesser charges still ruin peoples lives.
7:12 this is a perfect example, of why you should think before you speak. and still think about the things you say even after they've been said
"How did you vote?" "I went down to the polling station. On Moor Lane"... 😂😂👍
Education in this leaves a lot to be desired
These answers tell me that people have very little idea about the moral and logical arguments for Death penalty.
funny thing the rate of murder in this country went down after the death penelty was abolished and berely rose in the years crime figure until 1980 it has still not risen above the 1963 yearly figures the main problem is lack of police the cuts have driven the increase in petty crime
Sutton -in - Ashfield home of the SCAB !!!!
Not too bright this bunch...
These people going on about “If someone murdered one of my kids”, they should be asked, what if one of your kids was found guilty?
Raise them to use a solicitor to defend themselves... don't associate with murderers and it's unlikely you'll get accused
Statistically it's most likely to be the parent so I don't know what these people are going on about
Sad that the traditional Labour voter chap says he didn't vote last time but was surprised when Anderson won! 🤦♂
lol ' i don't eat fruit, was shocked when i got scurvy' durrrrrrrrrrr
🤣🤣🤣🤣 these people are useless
The man who wanted Birching in public on a weekend morning, if I was the police i'd be looking him up, it's a bit of a danger sign when we have people who want people stripped and whipped in the town centers for all to see.