One thing I adore about this scene is the dual purpose of the animation. Once the bird lands, Curtis is entirely immobile, while Dan continues to use his usual idle animation. It puts focus on the bird, but it also contrasts behavior; Curtis is completely serious, while Dan acts like he's bored out of his mind.
God, I love how every word Dan says in this scene just oozes condescension and smug superiority. Everything about him in this scene makes it clear he's surpassed his former mentor, the one who stabbed him in the back and killed him, and he knows it.
Two things about the battle: 1) Creepiest boss music i've heard in a long time 2) i love how when you land a shot, the graphics go wireframe to indicate score
@@elerrante5991 Curtis were involved into child traffic, Ayame Blackburn were one the orphans he took and tortured in many ways He even had weeb fetish making Ayame thinking she were an anime girl and raping her
Dan was different in this part than he was in the rest of the game. The way he looked at the bodies after the battle, it seems like he didn't just kill Blackburn for revenge; he seemed like he did it for a greater good.
@@ennieminymoo6675 For some reason I can somewhat see a death battle between both Curtis and Vicious and same goes for both Dan and Spike I guess cause of there personality and just straight up cool/badass attitudes but maybe that just me!
@@ennieminymoo6675 Yeah they both similar, They are two ruthless criminal Boss who never forgive they’s enemies and do anything to destroying their lives, to killing everyone their love, but honestly for me Curtis still a more sick,twisted,disgusting,psychotic, sadistic and disturbing than Vicious
For those not keeping score, the pigeon flies a few seconds after you hear it coo. This chapter freaked me out the first time I played through it... mainly because Curtis is a creepy enough bastard that he makes the team of assassins you're controlling look reasonable.
I bought this game (gamecube version) at the san diego comic con 2006 for $10, best 10 bucks i've ever spent. I haven't played a game yet that feels like this game.
It became my favorite chapter when it turns out that Curtis' hobby is grinding naked woman to pieces as they were hanged to death. Oh man the creepiness.
@@ShadoFire Nah, you’re no dumb dumb. But seriously, Curtis was a f?!kedup old man. Having his way with young girls, and then harvesting their organs with his cleaning machine...
He doesn't grind them up, he turns them into taxidermy His original job was to traffic organs for the US Govt so they can manufacture man-made heaven smiles, he got his organs from the immigration office (ran by his accomplice Pedro) which is a front for human trafficking His sick hobby of pedophilic human taxidermy was just a thing he did after retiring from human trafficking for the govt. Obviously he was able to get away with it because of said connections to the US govt, he basically is Jeffrey Epstein
Wow this game did not get enough praise on how awesome creative, and unique this shit is. Suda 51 other games compared to suda 51 aren't that great in my opinion but this game is a masterpiece. Only wish it was longer.
***** Before the 2010 the right hated videogames. And yes there was controversy thanks to Jack Thompson but he just presented that scene from cloudman without any context.
hahah I encounter was one of the missions I looked forward to cuz it was about dans past. wish they had made one for mask and the others though even though the game was 2 discs long I wanted to play more!!
This boss battle is so satisfying. After seeing what Curtis had done to Pedro and his family, you can't help but feel Pedro's anger. You've come not only for your objective, but to avenge you and your partner's death.
@@AliC202 pedro was a pretty awful person directly responsible for the deaths of a bunch of young girls, and he definitely had something coming his way. that being said though, what happened to his family was pretty fucking awful
After 10 years of intense research, I have determined that I was in fact wrong about the voice actors. Michael Gough (VA for Dan Smith) voiced Osmund Saddler in Resident Evil 4, though so I knew he sounded familiar somehow.
As much as I know, "the neck" could also mean the way birds flutter them when they make sounds, thus technically the kid warned him that once the bird makes a sound, he better be careful. Justified by this clip right here, since the bird only takes off for real after it makes a sound.
I'm glad I was craving everything anime in 2005. For that reason, I experienced this masterpiece. This game spoiled me. I have been chasing Suda 51 ever since. I am DESPERATE for another Killer 7. Can any of you out there in the world name a game better than this one?
Playing this game as a child, I never knew the Pigeon flies away a few seconds after cooing, lol. Never made the connection until reading a comment years later.
Honestly felt the same way. The build up made it seem like it you're going up against a professional killer and that it's going to be fair game, which it is, but I was expecting more of a epic shootout and not uhhhh this lol
You changed quite considerable. Into a badass I might add. Best.Compliment.Ever. Imagine how wonderful you would feel if someone says you grew into a badass XD
I'd say it's him and Mask really. Mask gave DePaul the benefit of the doubt and saved him. Dan is just an epic badass with a score to settle. Actually if you think about it, Dan's real enemy is Pedro, he's the one who got him killed. Though since Pedro was dead already and Curtis was the target, this still works out in his favor.
The members of Killer 7 were all living people in the past--they were killed by Emir, and Harman's god-like abilities (he is a god, afterall) brought all of those dead people into Emir/Garcian's memory. The memories are all real, because they were inserted from the deceased. It's all about two gods squaring off: Kun Lan and Harman Smith.
i luv this fight its kind of like a holy version of a cowboy duel and ive always loved the oddness of the game especially the two office brain bosses and all the evil laughs
I probably didn't phrase myself quite right. I wasn't thinking that they were the same persona, more that they have very similar personalities; Dan was Curtis' protege after all.
When it comes down to Kun vs Harman, you gotta ask yourself, who is God? Who is Devil? And then you gotta ask yourself- whose side are you on, anyways???
Well the trailer looks cool so far, way darker than No More Heroes and Lollipop. I mean I love those games, but it's been awhile since Suda got a more serious tone. Even Shadows of the Damned was more on the funny side (but also awesome^^). I just hope for a more complex story after that streak of mindless games that he put out after killer7 =)
thats got to make it hard as hell. Your an awsome player! I'd probably never be able to finish Killer 7 mode, becuase id get snuck up on by smiles, because when i get scared i turn down the volume XD
"trying to die in style? give me a break you sick old man"
best line ever
One thing I adore about this scene is the dual purpose of the animation. Once the bird lands, Curtis is entirely immobile, while Dan continues to use his usual idle animation. It puts focus on the bird, but it also contrasts behavior; Curtis is completely serious, while Dan acts like he's bored out of his mind.
+Spybreak001 Good point. I alwys liked the style of this boss fight. It feels so unique.
let's just say he is fucked up..
Not to mention the music. Not only it builds extreme tension, It also messes with your rhythm
What a badass.
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God, I love how every word Dan says in this scene just oozes condescension and smug superiority. Everything about him in this scene makes it clear he's surpassed his former mentor, the one who stabbed him in the back and killed him, and he knows it.
And he also gives him the most painful and cruel method of death possible, giving him the taste of his own poison, which is quite poetic.
"Shut up before you run out of breath," I love how hammy this line is.
"I went to see the devil. Now its your turn."
Best Dan line in the game
Two things about the battle:
1) Creepiest boss music i've heard in a long time
2) i love how when you land a shot, the graphics go wireframe to indicate score
I know I'm 9 years late hell i was bout 6 when you made that comment but yea Blackburn was involved in child trafficing
@@mostafaahmedibrahim2541 ?
@@elerrante5991 Blackburn was involved in organ trafficking
@@elerrante5991 Curtis were involved into child traffic, Ayame Blackburn were one the orphans he took and tortured in many ways
He even had weeb fetish making Ayame thinking she were an anime girl and raping her
@@elerrante59914:33
Dan was different in this part than he was in the rest of the game. The way he looked at the bodies after the battle, it seems like he didn't just kill Blackburn for revenge; he seemed like he did it for a greater good.
Seemed
"Trying to die in style? give me a break you sick old man"
Dan himself is a sadist and a maniac, this duel was about revenge, nevertheless I adore Dan
I like how Curtis was really added into the game just to make you feel better about playing as a group of assassins. :P
To be fair, children are pure. Once you after them, you’re on the bottom of the list for everyone.
I think every Smith should have gotten a battle like this, even though Kevin doesn't talk.
@Hakaida Wilson Really!? I bought that the second I saw it release. How did it sell on PC. Could we see this director's one day?
@Hakaida Wilson That No More Heroes ports is coming to PC!? I can finally play those?
@Hakaida Wilson in an interview on UA-cam suda said he got capcom's permission.
Here's the interview ua-cam.com/video/iAW1GuqIamk/v-deo.html
@Rmmmikewell they did allow Suda to use his K7 characters in his spin off game, TSA. So time will tell us when Capcom gives the thumbs up.
'Trying to go out in style? gimme a break, you sick old man!'
Pure Awesome.
Dan Smith is a straight up badass to me personally he basically the video game version of Spike Spiegel from cowboy bebop :)
Funny thing since Curtis reminds me of Vicious
@@ennieminymoo6675 For some reason I can somewhat see a death battle between both Curtis and Vicious and same goes for both Dan and Spike I guess cause of there personality and just straight up cool/badass attitudes but maybe that just me!
This is also funny because Steve Bloom plays the Minor Antagonist in Killer7.
@@ennieminymoo6675
Yeah they both similar, They are two ruthless criminal Boss who never forgive they’s enemies and do anything to destroying their lives, to killing everyone their love, but honestly for me Curtis still a more sick,twisted,disgusting,psychotic, sadistic and disturbing than Vicious
Steve blum who voiced Spike voices some characters in killer 7
"trying to die in style?...gimme a break you sick ol' man" best comment of dan^^
Life...
Wonderful indeed...
"Life...wonderful indeed."
I love Dan SO FREAKING MUCH
For those not keeping score, the pigeon flies a few seconds after you hear it coo.
This chapter freaked me out the first time I played through it... mainly because Curtis is a creepy enough bastard that he makes the team of assassins you're controlling look reasonable.
I bought this game (gamecube version) at the san diego comic con 2006 for $10, best 10 bucks i've ever spent. I haven't played a game yet that feels like this game.
man I freakin love Dan!!!
"Trying to die in style? Gimme a break you sick old man!"
I LOVE that part! You show 'im Dan!
Dan has a badass comeback for everything.
It became my favorite chapter when it turns out that Curtis' hobby is grinding naked woman to pieces as they were hanged to death.
Oh man the creepiness.
That’s not exactly what it is...
But it’s been 13 years, I’m sure you know the truth.
@@battlinjoe2592 I’ve grown now and I was a dumb dumb
@@ShadoFire Nah, you’re no dumb dumb.
But seriously, Curtis was a f?!kedup old man. Having his way with young girls, and then harvesting their organs with his cleaning machine...
He doesn't grind them up, he turns them into taxidermy
His original job was to traffic organs for the US Govt so they can manufacture man-made heaven smiles, he got his organs from the immigration office (ran by his accomplice Pedro) which is a front for human trafficking
His sick hobby of pedophilic human taxidermy was just a thing he did after retiring from human trafficking for the govt. Obviously he was able to get away with it because of said connections to the US govt, he basically is Jeffrey Epstein
@@morgonfr33m4n1337z thank you for the explanation
Everytime I try to take this scene seriously, Dan spouts out that "old fart" line and I crack up every time.
I've seen you around from somewhere I just know it...
considering dan’s actor is in his 90’s at the time of recording his lines for k7
@@TakoTrucker Uh no?? He was 49 years old at the time.
@@hedgehoundable the hell? someone said he was 90
@@TakoTrucker Someone didn't do their research then lol.
Wow this game did not get enough praise on how awesome creative, and unique this shit is. Suda 51 other games compared to suda 51 aren't that great in my opinion but this game is a masterpiece. Only wish it was longer.
+Michael Angst The games originally going to be longer but Capcom made Grasshopper cut some content to make it shorter.
Gamecube disks could only hold 1.5GB and Killer 7 was made exclusive for the gamecube.
+Sean O'Farrell It was also on the PS2, albeit it was a port
***** Before the 2010 the right hated videogames. And yes there was controversy thanks to Jack Thompson but he just presented that scene from cloudman without any context.
Flower Sun and Rain will always be my favorite suda game, just beating K7 a lil bit
hahah I encounter was one of the missions I looked forward to cuz it was about dans past. wish they had made one for mask and the others though even though the game was 2 discs long I wanted to play more!!
WHAT YHE FUCK
@@kbkksh91 what's wrong?
Same, I’m glad Dan got as much shine as he did
i think the crunch was to blame for the lack of backstories for coyote etc
a trick: watch movies on kaldrostream. Been using it for watching lots of of movies lately.
some of the best writing ever
Just bought this again. One of my all-time favorites, and certainly my top title on the Gamecube.
I always watch Curtis' arm. It's completely stationary before he goes for a shot~
The actual tell is the bird. It "coo"s before it actually flies away.
On Killer8, the audio cue is gone.
Listen to Blackburn's first words.
"Danny Boy" is often played at Irish funerals.
Dan is supposed to be Irish-American.
That would explain the sideburns
I went to see the devil,now it’s your turn.My fav line
God dans voice is so good
I love the way he says "your nothing but a sick maniac"
This just made my day
i really wish they would turn this game into a movie or something. its got the perfect storyline and has hardly any recognition. definitely underrated
It had a comic series, but it got cancelled after a few issues.
@@heardofrvb And it suuuucks
Step on me, Dan....
wuaaooow
wuaaaowww
wuaaaoooow
wuaow
wuaaaaaaaaow
There really aren't enough words to describe Killer 7.
This boss battle is so satisfying.
After seeing what Curtis had done to Pedro and his family, you can't help but feel Pedro's anger. You've come not only for your objective, but to avenge you and your partner's death.
Wasn't Pedro massively corrupt though?
@@AliC202 pedro was a pretty awful person directly responsible for the deaths of a bunch of young girls, and he definitely had something coming his way. that being said though, what happened to his family was pretty fucking awful
Also adding in Pedro was the one that tricked Curtis into killing Dan in the first place by getting him to think Dan betrayed him.
Oh god this fight was soo intense
the only thing I can say about this is... Taxidermy...
Diet Gaming
Fucking creepy
Still satisfied
Killer7...one of my favorite games ever. Period.
I made this part out to be way harder than it actually was.
dudes and dudads this cutseen is woun of the best I ever seen xD.
Suda will never be able to create such a masterpiece again... but let's at least hope for it =D
anyone recognize the voices?
albert wesker and leon kennedy
WHAT? REALLY?
@@fem8946 No. But if it makes you feel better, Dan Smith has the same VA as Gopher from Winnie the Pooh
I thought it was Alistair Duncan, celebrimbor
After 10 years of intense research, I have determined that I was in fact wrong about the voice actors.
Michael Gough (VA for Dan Smith) voiced Osmund Saddler in Resident Evil 4, though so I knew he sounded familiar somehow.
@@KarlFrederick19 LMAO
Hard mode made this boss fight funner. Same thing, just without the pigeon cooing to hint you in.
I imagine how it plays on Bloodbath Difficulty
My eyes were wide open in this scene
That kid say "the neck,the neck" only shot curtis when the bird raises it's neck.
+Jake Lancaster Belmont Christ, I tried shooting him in the neck and that shit was impossible. Kudos.
As much as I know, "the neck" could also mean the way birds flutter them when they make sounds, thus technically the kid warned him that once the bird makes a sound, he better be careful. Justified by this clip right here, since the bird only takes off for real after it makes a sound.
On Deadly mode the bird does not make a sound, the only way to tell is to pay attention to it's neck animation.
I'm glad I was craving everything anime in 2005. For that reason, I experienced this masterpiece. This game spoiled me. I have been chasing Suda 51 ever since. I am DESPERATE for another Killer 7. Can any of you out there in the world name a game better than this one?
Anime in 200? More like japanimation, amirite?
How badass Dan Smith is: He's able to shoot the lever, even though the guns position is off-center.
Dan Smith is the MAN!!
Beautiful. Best cutscene ever in the best game ever.
BOY THAT'S REALY CREEPY
It's called Taxidermy on the killer7 soundtrack.
Playing this game as a child, I never knew the Pigeon flies away a few seconds after cooing, lol. Never made the connection until reading a comment years later.
"old man" Travis says that too.
Literally the captions "Wow"
when your opponent calls you a badass, then you know it's true.
I remember hating that f****** bird so much the first time playing this game.
I can't help but feel Dan deserved a more badass fight....
Honestly felt the same way. The build up made it seem like it you're going up against a professional killer and that it's going to be fair game, which it is, but I was expecting more of a epic shootout and not uhhhh this lol
Man, I should replay this game soon
You changed quite considerable. Into a badass I might add.
Best.Compliment.Ever. Imagine how wonderful you would feel if someone says you grew into a badass XD
I'd say it's him and Mask really. Mask gave DePaul the benefit of the doubt and saved him. Dan is just an epic badass with a score to settle.
Actually if you think about it, Dan's real enemy is Pedro, he's the one who got him killed. Though since Pedro was dead already and Curtis was the target, this still works out in his favor.
The members of Killer 7 were all living people in the past--they were killed by Emir, and Harman's god-like abilities (he is a god, afterall) brought all of those dead people into Emir/Garcian's memory. The memories are all real, because they were inserted from the deceased.
It's all about two gods squaring off: Kun Lan and Harman Smith.
But shouldn't Harman be a God and Kun Lan Satan?
Gah! That pigeon cause so much suspense!
Thanks
I love this scene. It’s just so striking. It’s kinda a stupid fight with it just being reactionary but it’s cool
One of my favorite parts of the game ^_^
i luv this fight its kind of like a holy version of a cowboy duel and ive always loved the oddness of the game especially the two office brain bosses and all the evil laughs
Ah, I'm glad my answer was satisfactory! =)
Dan is so bad ass. He's like Dirty Harry mixed with the Terminator mixed with like the biggest bad ass ever to exist!
That fuckin' pigeon! The bane of my existance.
I probably didn't phrase myself quite right. I wasn't thinking that they were the same persona, more that they have very similar personalities; Dan was Curtis' protege after all.
Of course he's badass.
It's Deckard Cain's voice from Diablo!
So much so that even his enemy admits it.
Hand in Killer 7 says that Con hates Dan, and implies a rivalry between Dan and Coyote, but there's no implication that Mask hates Dan, is there?
Had to refresh myself as to how this boss works, I totally get it now, easy indicator is easy and I was worried for nothing dood X3
@Hienkyaku I got a copy f the game this weekend at a Gamestop 1.5 hrs from my house. Absolutely worth it to play it again
When it comes down to Kun vs Harman, you gotta ask yourself, who is God? Who is Devil? And then you gotta ask yourself- whose side are you on, anyways???
'I went to see the devil, now it's your turn'. I've heard this game is complicated, so I don't know if this is foreshadowing or something...
Do yourself a favour and find out for yourself, it`s on Steam now.
It`s 20 bucks, but it`s 20 bucks very well spend imo.
Its the archangel im pretty sure. But that could mean alot of things
Dan rules the same voice actor does gopher in the winnie the pooh cartoons
What do they do at immigration?
Don't ask
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT
I think he was talking about how you can tell that the bird is really going to fly away if it coos and then twists its neck.
Tokuro fujiwara was in the boss battle and he survived the assassination by shinji mikami killers for hire group.
Fucking bird.
cool!
I cast Billy Bob Thornton as Curtis in the live action
DANNY BOY
Well the trailer looks cool so far, way darker than No More Heroes and Lollipop. I mean I love those games, but it's been awhile since Suda got a more serious tone. Even Shadows of the Damned was more on the funny side (but also awesome^^). I just hope for a more complex story after that streak of mindless games that he put out after killer7 =)
4:27 is the most creepy scene, when we see some naked orphan girls corpse hanged that their organ got out for trading
They should make a prequel showing Dan working for immigration, to the point where he gets betrayed. 3:53 favourite arm gesture ever!
Shoulda known better than to mess with the Irishman, Curtis XD
thats got to make it hard as hell. Your an awsome player! I'd probably never be able to finish Killer 7 mode, becuase id get snuck up on by smiles, because when i get scared i turn down the volume XD
that movie rox
Ah, I love how creepy the scene gets...
It's like he knew he was going to die.
Great characters, great game, not-so-hard boss, but still awesome.
More like Saddler (Dan) and Mortanius from Legacy of Kain Defiance (Curtis).
i was pretty sure the gun Dan had at the beginning was an
S&W 500?
this game cult af
Ah a call back to silver case
that damn bird
Curtis would eventually become senator of colorado.
AlexTheSoutherner And a dead bastard elf spirit that made some jewelry or something.