3rd Bass Confronted By MC Hammer On K Day In 1991
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Hammer was probably thinking during this entire phone conversation, "These guys are going to get the scare of their lives about fifteen minutes from now when my brother Louis's guys surround the place." And what do you know? The Rollin' 60 Crips had the place surrounded shortly after Hammer hung up the phone.
Dont really make hammer hard doing that he just snitched to his local gang police. They no doubt charged him for it too despite not laying a hand on them so hammer got hustled.
@@L1am21Serch been snitching ever since and got PTSD 😂😂
He with the crips tho he not snitchin if its they boys @@L1am21
Dude almost got smoked for dissing, then goes on the radio and try to gaslight hammer the next day.... bold af.
They finally found this rare gem
Man. I can't believe how those dudes talked to MC. Tough guys over the phone.
'Hey, we from New York', MC 'it don't matter where you from. ' Right on, Burrell.
It's hard for me to hear this. I served in the Navy with MC, just us two, night shift, before he was officially MC. He was a good dude. Deep conversations. He entertained me night after night! He told me about his town Oakland (and he was proud about being from there), about his involvement with the A's (I didn't believe him, and told him so!), That he was recording music (again, lol, didn't believe him!) One night, Burrell takes me out to his car, pops the trunk and I'll be damned, it was full of cassettes and records! With his big handsome smile he says, "I told ya homeboy, I'm gonna rock the world!" Lol. Ah man, that you did, MC!
I had a great time with him.
He was highly intelligent, funny, never arrogant, kind...and every night wanted to show you his 'new' moves.
Much love and respect for my MC. '83/'84 Moffett 👊🏼👊🏾♥️🖤💯
Very cool story man. Thanks for that.
@@liamnissanS2K Thanks, all truth.
I also heard he was an accomplished boxer while he was in the Navy, too. Any truth to that?
@@michaelnewton1332 When I was with him one on one [84], I don't recall us talking about boxing. That doesn't mean that boxing rumors are not true. However, he did share with me some of his 'experiences' of growing up in his beloved 'Oaktown'.
Ham is the HipHop GOAT!!!
They knew what they were doing. There's a big difference between "Turn this Mutha Out" and "The cactus turned Hammer's mother out". All they did was make themselves look like cowards.
As a dude from Oakland, wherever I travel I tell anyone who would listen that Hammer & his family & crew were not to be trifled with. Lotta cats let the runnin man, genie pants & s curl fool em!
Didn't Andre from Outkast once famously say, "Try to run up on Hammer and see what happens"?
3rd Bass tried do make a valid point. Turn this mutha out could have been interpreted as Hammer turning someone else mom out. However the line was the Cactus turned Hammer's mutha out. So I get the play on words. But because you said Hammer's mutha and not this mutha that's where the confusion sets in.
Perfect example of two "down" white dudes not fully understanding the nuances of a culture they've co-opted as fans. No Black rap artist would go so far and disrespect dude's mother so casually UNLESS they were fully prepared for ALL THE SMOKE. Serch, no matter how he felt connected to Blackness, clearly didn't understand where that line of demarcation was.
@@bOmBAsTiK but Search does fully understand it. He was embraced by the culture. Still is. Pete said the rhyme but Search having his man ‘s back to the brunt of it all.
The phrase "Turn this Mutha Out" was taken from an old Parliament/Funkadelic song called "Give Up The Funk." The phrase was chanted during the last 2 minutes of the song. Obviously, 3rd Bass must not have ever heard the song because the song originally came out in 1975. This legendary beef by Hammer and 3rd Bass may unfortunately be the result of a generation gap since Hammer is slightly older. 😒 Also George Clinton and crew intended the word "Mutha" to mean the "stage" or "arena" that his group performed in. The line in the song had nothing to do with anyone's mother in the first place. However, I still believe that 3rd Bass made a pot shot at Hammer's mother because many rappers in 1991 were dissing hammer - Redman made a reference to Hammer's Mama as well.
@@MrRudyc85if serch understood he wouldn’t be excusing disrespecting the man’s mother to this day. He’d either stand on it or admit his mistake not attempt to intellectualize why he “isnt actually disrespecting his mother” turn this mother out disrespects a general mother not someone’s specific mother and that nuance is clearly being missed on people. Rappers will diss other rappers in a generalized way as a part of bugging themself up, that’s hip hop and we know if a rapper disses a specific rapper by name, then that’s something totally different and opens the door to response/engagement in a totally different way
This happened on *01/23/90*, the day after Hammer won 2 awards at the American Music awards. The Cactus Album came out 11/10/89 which is why Hammer was still heated about it. It was recent. By 1991 3rd Bass were moving on to doing newer material for their upcoming album “Derelicts of Dialect” to be released in June 1991.
Props to you.
@@ChynaFearsBuckwheat2001 Much appreciated.
Great Hop Hip historian
Thanks for the clarification
Man, Hammer don’t play! Like Arsenio Hall said once, (paraphrasing): “Run up on Hammer! I Dare you! Run up on Hammer and see what happens!” Hammer was The Man back then and still a great artist. Ice too.
Actually it was Andre from Outkast that said that.
Actually it was Redman that said that...
Actually it was Ice Cube who said that…
I love 3rd Bass and this was MEANT as disrespect, as was "what do we think about Hammer?" on "The Gas Face." It would have been easier just to apologize and move on, instead of trying to justify.
Serch could’ve apologized for the group
Got cute with the wrong person. Rumor has it his stay on the west coast wasn’t very pleasant.
Serch was talking reckless...funny dude!
How did I miss this call in real time? I listened to KDay all the time
Serch had to pray just to make it that day. Just another Crime Story.
No Glory
😂😂😂😂 see what you did there
3rd Bass ain't want absolutely no smoke with Hammer. Dude was heavy in them Oakland streets and rolled with some wild dudes. Fools tried to step to Hammer thinking shit was sweet and got they ass knocked out.
yeah!!!! i'll smack the shit out of serch over hammer!!
@@drewali7 try it
3rd Bass burned a lot of bridges they shouldn't have even looked at. It is known that when they would be hanging out at Def Jam headquarters, they used to regularly blast the "N" word and no one checked them....until Professor Griff kicked the crap out of both of them. I shudder to think what Hammer would have done to Serch in an actual fight.
Pure facts
Allegedly $500,000 hit on 3rd Bass’s head. Rollin 60’s outside waiting for 3rd Bass waiting for that PAYDAY! Allegedly
It was 50k
Hammer should get his money back then they still breathing.
Guess he was too quit to be legit. Imagine wasting 50k over a corny diss line when you can just diss back and actually make money from the dissing.
@@L1am21are you slow? The money doesn’t get paid until the hit is complete 😂
Serch is such a lying wanna be thug! In recent interviews he claim he was talking tough to Hammer on K Day yet it was totally the opposite. Those dudes were copping pleas like crazy & I wish you had the full audio of this.
I came here trying to verify that too
Even Pete Nice himself called Serch out on his bullshit. He basically called him a liar.
So is your mom
This actually makes sense now. I always wondered about that. I listened to that song a few weeks ago and I was like damnnnnnnnn they talked about Hammer's mother. I totally forgot about Turn this Mutha out lol.
"Lets turn this mother out" has always ment
"Lets turn up in this mother fucker" referring to the place they are currently at. Like, let's party to the max
Damn hammer didnt play the radio
One of the first East Coast/West Coast rivarly sega (80's/90's)
3rd Bass also called out Vanilla Ice as well. Dissed both on the 1991 song "Pop Goes The Weasel".
Great song/ Great Times
Great content he was just on Vlad shook to death😉😂
For folks that don't know MC Hammer ain't no joke his friends and family are real Street people Oakland ain't nothing to play with it ..much love and respect to O.g Hammer good brother gave hundreds of people jobs even if it was for a year hey coming from the hood that's better than nothing
All the rappers tried to clown Hammer thinking he was a pushover
Funny thing is that MC search has blown this out of proportion
According to search in New York he and Hamer where at club and search wanted to do a dance battle and hammer kind of blue him off he said that was the 1st insult but then they did the record and the line was turn hammers mother out and that is what ultimately drew the criticisms from everyone and that's why you heard him try and confront these guys and say well that's crossing line you don't talk about people's families were have you and as far as they were concerned that's not what happened well not according to DJ search
Search has further told the story that because of that they were trying to do a couple of things in Los Angeles and their record label and their management team were unaware but somebody put a hit out on 3rd base and to hear search talk he says Hamer did it and they had a problem where they came to LA they were doing something they had to be rushed to the hotel they had to rent the entire floor get them into the hotel get the security and be on lockdown because there was a significant wrisk somebody was gonna try and take one member if not all 3 of 3rd base out
What Actually happened was whether they knew it or not they insulted one of the members of a gang in Los Angeles and that's where the problem came from it didn't evolve hammer didn't evolve his brother didn't have anything to do with anybody and MC search has pretty much for the last 25 plus years basically blamed MC hammer because he put a hit out on them search has been lying through his teeth about certain things and this is 1 of the stories that he's told which is why 3rd bass is not together to this day
In the end the guy that put the hit out on them they basically said will drop it if you do this and you do that for me and pay some money and they let the whole thing go so his management team negotiated this stand down thing with the guy that put the hit out on 3rd base and they paid him off and it is a well know fact it's not like that was a secret there are people including myself that were familiar with the story because it's been told so much
The whole 3rd verse of Cactus was about banging Hammer's mother. There is no damage controlling that. Nice said it, but Serch wrote it. He should have just owned up and moved on, but he kept trying to gaslight saying Hammer was wrong because he blew it out of proportion. If you read the lyrics, there is exactly only one way to translate it.
Wheres the rest?😒
Hammer wanted that smoke.
Hammer is the HipHop GOAT- he is above them.... and I’m a huge 3rd Bass/Serch fan.
This is the first time I address rappers but MC Serch is still in the house the lyrics go straight into 2021-20th century!
I came here from Search's VladTV interview.
Mc Serch is lying. He said in another interview that it all started when he wanted to battle Hammer and Hammer said no. If you look at Gas Face they dissed Hammer there too, they even say here that it was "subliminal".
Finally!
Serch blew this way out of proportion and Hammer sounds dumb not getting the reference to his own song
Nope, didn't fall for the weak explanation then and now.
Yeah, word play of Hammer's song was used in retaliation, but delivery of context is something else. The lyric was received as its delivery intended. The difference is that because they (specifically Serch) was "I'm from NY" clout throwing and thought that would be the end of it. They weren't expecting the response they got. Louis' (Hammer's brother) reaction was "you fckd around, now come out here so you can find out." It's 2024 and Serch hasn't been back to the Bay Area since then. And if he has, it was covert and quick enough to not be detected.
Not on the literal on the metaphorical is what he should’ve said. The Subliminal could mean he was talking about hammers mother lol
HEE-LARRY-US
I think the real truth behind it was is that someone had said that 3rd base was talk you buy hammers brother and he reached out there be for clarification the reality was the line in the rhyme it said turn this mother out and they're talking about the rhyme itself
The problem was is the MC search decided to lie and make a Big very complicated story about something that happened to the whole group and then blaming olit on mc hammer thats when it became an issue and he has been called out as lying through his teeth everything he pretty much said it's not what happened and ultimately he's gonna have to live with that
Search said in interviews that he was talking reckless to Hammer and Greg Mack damn liar
Does anybody have the audio when Biggie called up to the radio station upset cause Dogg Pound was in NYC???
It use to be on UA-cam
Only Angie has that.
NYC dont like piggie seen in a bad light. Dont know why most his lyrics were vile. Nas is NYC 2pac not piggie.
lol Serch said they almost got hit leaving this interview
Wow! He’s tripping! MC HAMMER 🔨 IS CRAZY ‼️
no he aint!!!! i'll smack serch over hammer!!!!
Just because it was a play on words doesn't mean they weren't talking about his mother. They tried to spin it as something else and just come off as phony cowards. It's embarrassing.
MC SERCH LIED. HE HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS HOING TO SURFACE
This was so funny,,,this was a funny beef days....😂😂😂😂
Serch dissed the beastie boys as well and he got the answer from mca and mca just destroyed him
Xevi brought me here.
oh serch you're such an intelligent "brother"
i thought this was one occasion where serch has a legitimate point to that hammer said his problem was that the word "mutha" was used at all, the actuall lyric is "prince paul(who was the producer) turned hammer's mutha out" was just saying that this song and production level is better than hammer's song 'turn this mutha out"...he was just trying to provide some context and explain that they weren't dissing hammer's mother at all, he was just showing the difference between mainstream people who anytime you mention the word mother that you might construe that as being literal, meaning that your talking about "or dissing" someone's mother and trust me, 3rd bass wanted no part in offending hammer's mother, because hammer could legitimately have them killed(and i ain't joking) and put enough space between himself and the actual act and get away with it
"Lets turn this mother out" has always ment
"Lets turn up in this mother fucker" referring to the place they are currently at. Like, let's party to the max
when a Hammer don´t nail it.....
SVAR
Leave family members out of the talk is what's best.
If only the song was called "Turn This Sucka Out"
Hammer don’t play baby!!! Never !!! ❤️💯
He let 2pac call him a sambo tho.
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1:21
LOL
No, Hammer
It WASN'T a line
IT WAS A WHOLE F**KING VERSE........
Post Script
( I looked 4 her on the Cosby Show & I aint seen her neither )
Don’t know what to believe. Look up Lord Sear & his interview with Pete @ Serch arguing over Serch’s lies...
it's true tho. it was a reference to the Hammer record. And Hammer looks simple minded taking it as a direct attack on his real mother
These guys are being rude and arrogant towards hammer.
griff beat the shit out of serch!!! i would do the same.
@@drewali7 what you talking about 🤨
Hammer sounds slow AF not understanding their dis as a reference to Mutha from his own song, not his actual mother. Idiot. Also, Pete Nice did not back down at all.
Pretending you were gonna bang on Hammer at the last Yo MTV raps gets the gas face. 😂
Why is this relevant today?? Just seen a video of Necro explaining a beef between Hammer & Serch that happened recently on Vlad?
Serch sounds way blacker here then he does now.
After someone named Mike Miske, who thought himself to be a crime boss, put a price on my head, the powers that be eventually sent two great friends from my past to come see me after the fact, to let me know everything was alright. Unfortunately the "gangstalking", or constant attention from people I didn't know needed to make that happen, while well intended, led me to incorrectly believe that the hit was much higher level than it actually was, and I was too paranoid to recognize my friends after all these years! I wish someone could have explained the situation to me at the time.
They obviously weren't talking about his mom smh. Yes we all know how gangster hammer is but the way he took this was ridiculous
Their was already a song from the 70’s called turn this mutha out from the 70’s and most people in the urban “culture knows the term mutha is short for muthafu*ka not mother. So either search was being sarcastic or he exposed himself as a culture vulture with little knowledge or respect of our music history
So cringey How Serch was trying to be down
Looks like a set up. They didn't say anything about hammers mother he was just on his period.
Turn this mother out is from parliament funkadelic! Everybody know that. Hammer 🔨 song. Not nobody mother. 3rd bass trying to weasel out of this with excuses. They were insulting as hell to Hammer. No reason. Because he was west coast. NY Rappers back then dispised west coast hip hop. I remember. I'm 51. Like if your music wasn't from NY, it gets no play or love or respect. For years
Hammer came out trying to dis Run DMC!! Look at this fool now in his feeling, stop it Hammer!!!
Money grip pandering
Serch is a liar
F 3rd bass . .
What yall mean
Hammer scared this 2 white boys lol
3rd Bass...two jews pretending to be black
Pete nice didn't
That's a straight lie
How?
🤣🤣
Hammer was being noble but to still want them dead after this explanation was just BS, moral of the story, *Hammer can't take jokes*
Takes plenty of jokes from the black rappers just not the white ones.
@@L1am21 Hammer stepped to Redman as well.
@@robertm3951 not in same way.
@@L1am21Yes he did. The difference was that Redman understood the tone used to say it and apologized. Especially after EPMD was run out from Oakland. Serch refused to read the room.
@@L1am21Serch is a guest in Hip Hop he don’t deserve to be approached in the same way