@@randomredshirt5274 Hopefully they'll do both- start off meeting them again onboard the sub and then at the end of that quest line, they become the crew for the Highwind, maybe? It'd take a bit of reworking to make it work though, but honestly I really enjoy these characters enough that I genuinely would love for them to join the team full time in Part 3 on the airship.
@@randomredshirt5274 If I recall correctly, they don't know you're the guy from the parade. As such, you have the option to fight them (which of course kills them) or just commandeer the sub yourself, which spares their lives).
Even now, I wonder what's really going on here. His persona may be "SOLDIER" according to what stories he heard from Zack, but Cloud's skills speaks for itself. How else could we explain the difference in skill level from your typical Shinra Security Officer. We can speculate that that the mako-infusion is what's responsible for Cloud's strength, and for whatever reason, he's pieced together memories of all his experiences, plus ones from Zack's retelling of the events to craft this persona that passes for truth (before scrutiny). But Cloud has SOLDIER skills and there's no way to explain why. AFAIK, the timeline for Crisis Core events was that he was still crippled and found himself in Sector 7, where Tifa found him, then shortly after that the events of FF7 started. What time did Cloud have to build up the skills he has now? Surely we are overestimating how powerful Zack's memories are!
@@terrancecloverfield6791I’m pretty sure he has the skills to be a SOLDIER but he lacks the mental fortitude that Zack has because as you can see Cloud is constantly being easily manipulated by Sephiroth and also by the fact that he’s constantly mixing things up thanks to the Mako poisoning
@@terrancecloverfield6791 cloud was always physically capable of being in soldier, the reason why he didnt get in was because during the final stage where the soldiers are meant to fuse with mako, his mind was rejecting it. Even when he has jenova cells which is basically the advanced set, he was left comatosed his eyes didnt become infused til after zack died and his mind was basically reshaping bits and pieces of itself to make a narritive for him to cope.
@@terrancecloverfield6791 I always imagined that Cloud DID have the potential, especially with Zack taking him under his wing. If it weren't for the Nibelhiem incident and give it a few more years, Cloud could've eventually ended up in SOLDIER.
Because at the end of the day, no matter what happened, the infantrymen are just people doing their job and are not good nor evil. It's the upper brass that carries the weight of the burden.
@X1erra I mean according to Before Crisis Cloud was able to fight Ravens and those are just reverse engineered SOLDIER's usi.g only a sword he'd managed to get and kept up with a turk, guy was better than people gave him credit for as an infantry man
Commander really struck out that one day. Had no CAPTAIN until the inauguration day parade and just hired one of the laziest ones who never showed up for practice and wins her battalion the reward.
A moment to salute how freaking *gifted* Tifa and Aerith are? Less than a few hours warning and they're following Cloud's lead in the parade perfectly? I get they're martial artists but holy shite.
@@bladerj As far as I know, yes. From this point 31:52 five troopers will accompany you until you reach the boss, it is up to you to ensure that all or some of them survive. As you may have noticed in this cutscene 35:17 three troopers appear to support their captain, which means that the group had 2 casualties. The number of troops in the cutscenes depends on how many of the 5 troopers manage to survive. 38:06 But I don't know how the cutscene will be if none of the 5 troopers survive.
@@terrancecloverfield6791 She definitely sees it and knows Cloud is a Soldier as she later comments that she only wishes he would stay as having a Soldier under her command is a dream come true. This happens in her final scene before she tells them she won't report seeing them. And THIS only happens if you score an "A" or better in the parade.
13:20 - *_...What fresh hell did I just walk into????_* This is NOT how I imagined a skinhead bar to be like. XD Cloud, RUN! They gonna shave your chocobo of a head!!!
5:37 Now I am wondering if she knows exactly who Cloud is and is intentionally promoting him to get closer to the president for whatever scheme he is trying? Commander might be part of a splinter cell within the Shinra military? So many possibilities in this games plot!
Makes you realise not all of Shinra are "bad" people as a whole and that their are truly those within it that value human life and want to protect the innocent, obviously as always its the higher ups that are the corrupt and most evil greedy ones, i can't wait for this to come to PC so i can play it :3
The irony of Cloud not getting any recognition or respect until AFTER the Jenova incident and going underground as a criminal is one of the more hilarious bits.
According to the lore in Before Crisis Elena's sister was a former Turk who after that game went into hiding, Elena even refused to join the turks till her older sister left due to an intense sense of rivalry
@nicksmanalo2636 it's not Cissnei though it is one if the selectable player turks like all of them we don't have an official name for her but her designation is Gun (Female)
Shinra doesn't pay them enough. That and Rufus basically stopped caring. The commander probably knows, but will turn an eye. The grunts will just assume some black ops SOLDIER Turk psyops stuff is going on; Cloud helped them against the monster when no other reinforcements came right? He was clearly an undercover SOLDIER bodyguard; he saved the president on that podium!
The Captain was right on the podium with the new President when the Wutai assassin woman tried to take the shot! We saw everything! Clearly the Captain's a SOLDIER plant on bodyguard duty; the president even cut the feed to speak with him for a bit. If the Captain was in cahoots with the assasin, clearly the new President would have ordered everyone to shoot him right there on the podium.
At first I doubt what you say, but once Cloud's helmet is down and he's speaking to them, while the Seventh Infantry's loyalty were definitely tested, they are indebted to the captain, gave him the benefit of the doubt. They eventually met on the field and showed further proof that they're fighting the good fight despite their reputation.
MA'AM YES MA'AM!!!😍🖖🏿 Now one of the things I hope for in part 3 is that this hot commander and her seventh infantry unit troops will join Cid's Highwind crew somehow.
They likely are going to be the submarine or High wind crew. Cloud mentioned that you need a crew for the Highwind and also the commander looks similar to the crew in the submarine.
You know… the guns sorta bug me. They don’t have the butt stocks. I get it’s a fictional item but… can’t help but think it would have looked better with the conventional stock lol
I believe those are standard issue machine guns or assault rifles and to why they don't come with shoulder stocks. Something tells me the Shinra's military doctrine is somewhat similar to imperial stormtroopers of Star Wars. Meaning a lot of troopes shooting a lot of lead down range and no concerned with accuracy. As long they're firing in the direction where the enemy is who cares if they miss a several shots, they got the numbers or whatever.😅 They do have rifles with stocks as see in the Junon parade scene. but those look like they're used for ceremonial purposes only. Not to mention from looks of them they're seem to be base on breech loading rifles, but that's just a guess until we see the official weapon concept art.
@@RedWolf777SG I think they took the stocks off for ease of animation/clipping. In the original game, the troopers had stocks on their rifles hence why they suddenly have them in the parade scene so they can do the gun twirling from the original.
Shoutout to the 7th infantry, I hope we see them on the highwind in the future
In the og you meet your paradebuddies again on the submarine. So if they're not on the highwind i'm pretty sure they'll crew your sub
@@randomredshirt5274 Hopefully they'll do both- start off meeting them again onboard the sub and then at the end of that quest line, they become the crew for the Highwind, maybe? It'd take a bit of reworking to make it work though, but honestly I really enjoy these characters enough that I genuinely would love for them to join the team full time in Part 3 on the airship.
@@randomredshirt5274 If I recall correctly, they don't know you're the guy from the parade. As such, you have the option to fight them (which of course kills them) or just commandeer the sub yourself, which spares their lives).
Including that hot commander!😍😁
It’s super ironic how Cloud is supposed to be posing as an infantryman when that’s his actual rank and his “default” persona was playing SOLDIER
SE sure knows how to jab on us who knew without spoiling it. xD
Even now, I wonder what's really going on here. His persona may be "SOLDIER" according to what stories he heard from Zack, but Cloud's skills speaks for itself. How else could we explain the difference in skill level from your typical Shinra Security Officer. We can speculate that that the mako-infusion is what's responsible for Cloud's strength, and for whatever reason, he's pieced together memories of all his experiences, plus ones from Zack's retelling of the events to craft this persona that passes for truth (before scrutiny). But Cloud has SOLDIER skills and there's no way to explain why.
AFAIK, the timeline for Crisis Core events was that he was still crippled and found himself in Sector 7, where Tifa found him, then shortly after that the events of FF7 started. What time did Cloud have to build up the skills he has now? Surely we are overestimating how powerful Zack's memories are!
@@terrancecloverfield6791I’m pretty sure he has the skills to be a SOLDIER but he lacks the mental fortitude that Zack has because as you can see Cloud is constantly being easily manipulated by Sephiroth and also by the fact that he’s constantly mixing things up thanks to the Mako poisoning
@@terrancecloverfield6791 cloud was always physically capable of being in soldier, the reason why he didnt get in was because during the final stage where the soldiers are meant to fuse with mako, his mind was rejecting it. Even when he has jenova cells which is basically the advanced set, he was left comatosed his eyes didnt become infused til after zack died and his mind was basically reshaping bits and pieces of itself to make a narritive for him to cope.
@@terrancecloverfield6791 I always imagined that Cloud DID have the potential, especially with Zack taking him under his wing. If it weren't for the Nibelhiem incident and give it a few more years, Cloud could've eventually ended up in SOLDIER.
I love these guys
Really humanizes Shinra troops even more than before
Definitely
Because at the end of the day, no matter what happened, the infantrymen are just people doing their job and are not good nor evil. It's the upper brass that carries the weight of the burden.
The gap between the commander’s treatment of Cloud and her giddiness when her unit wins is rather charming, I think.
Despite not really making it to SOLDIER, Cloud would make a pretty interesting captain for infantry long term
Maybe.
Well, he sure did a fine job as an infantryman back then and now here too. It's just in his element.
I mean...(spoiler I suppose)
...
As infantry, he killed Sephiroth. He wasn't even in SOLDIER.
@@scaleofjudgement tbf
Sephiroth kinda high at the time
@X1erra I mean according to Before Crisis Cloud was able to fight Ravens and those are just reverse engineered SOLDIER's usi.g only a sword he'd managed to get and kept up with a turk, guy was better than people gave him credit for as an infantry man
2:37 the look from Tifa haha.
She's ready to Dive Kick her
"Shave it clean and make it gleam-"
"Gleam like the midday sun"
"Buff it fine and make it shine-"
"Shine bright for everyone".
I want more scenes of the commander
Me too give her a name in the next installment doesn't have to be a secul just a side story.
we will on the submarine I feel ;)
She is commanding some serious assets. 😮
Commander really struck out that one day. Had no CAPTAIN until the inauguration day parade and just hired one of the laziest ones who never showed up for practice and wins her battalion the reward.
Genius putting Tifa and Aerith in the drill minigame. And it's so cool to see Cloud becoming the commander he never was.
A moment to salute how freaking *gifted* Tifa and Aerith are? Less than a few hours warning and they're following Cloud's lead in the parade perfectly? I get they're martial artists but holy shite.
And they did the same thing with Yuffie in the Gold Saucer. It's a weird but awesome skill these two have.
38:06 A moment of silence for 7th Infantry Trooper B and 7th Infantry Trooper D, who didn't make it.
wait they can die ?
@@bladerj As far as I know, yes. From this point 31:52 five troopers will accompany you until you reach the boss, it is up to you to ensure that all or some of them survive. As you may have noticed in this cutscene 35:17 three troopers appear to support their captain, which means that the group had 2 casualties. The number of troops in the cutscenes depends on how many of the 5 troopers manage to survive.
38:06 But I don't know how the cutscene will be if none of the 5 troopers survive.
@@Agente6231oh shit they can die? I got all 5 of them alive. Do someone got them all killed? Lmao
@@tranhuy7575 well i mean, when you're trying to fight enemies you get overwhelmed and one of your companions dies in other games so yeah
@@bladerj yea, one of mine died and 4 soldiers showed up in that scene for me
If no one else got my back, at least I know the 7th Infantry will always have my back!
im calling it now, the 7th infantry will help Barret and Tifa escape Junon in part 3 when they are going to be executed.
I really like the commander
Mommy commander
Ma'am yes ma'am!😍🖖🏿
*Seeing Tifa and Aerith in gear, I can't help but think Fist Soldier game was too beautiful for this world.*
Hahahahaha, Tara Platt isin't even trying to make it sound different from Edelgard
Right
Or Mitsuru.
Regardless...the voice fits so I'm not complaining.
Now you've mentioned Tara Platt, that's why I recognized her voice because she voiced Zero from Drakengard 3
GODDAMN!!! Why is the Commander so damn HOT???? I mean, it's Final Fantasy sure, but like.... WOW. She checks all my boxes.
And of course she’s voiced by Tara Platt.
That was on the tip of my tongue. I knew her voice from somewhere I just couldn't remember. I know her from Temari in Naruto.
Final Fantasy is more like “Fan Fantasy” because of how many attractive people are in the series.
@@halfbee7886 thank the lord for Japanese devs.
She is independent and strong Woman and at the same time enthusiastic person which makes her really cute daayuumm I'm so down bad lady like her
am i the only one that prefered cloud in his infantry uniform rather than his makeshift soldier one
Commander really likes Cloud😮😊😊
What's surprising there....is that despite being commander, she couldn't see the mako-infused eyes??
it should have been me dammit
@@terrancecloverfield6791 She definitely sees it and knows Cloud is a Soldier as she later comments that she only wishes he would stay as having a Soldier under her command is a dream come true. This happens in her final scene before she tells them she won't report seeing them. And THIS only happens if you score an "A" or better in the parade.
@@terrancecloverfield6791 side quest gives you more time with her and the boiz
Commander: "Now, make us proud!"
Me: "Yes Mom... I mean Ma'am!" ^
another hot girl thirst for cloud
and there's tifa glare at that woman and thinking how to break her hand for touching him
26:00 I WANT TSENG's Ringtone! I know its Shinra's theme but it has some what of a more hollow sound
Aerith being ordinary civilian and a cetra with no military experience is doing a fine job. A worthy for The bravery of a soldier.
0:27 I love how they casually point guns at their friend.
Cloud was about to go full Gunnery Sergeant Hartman at around ~17min but luckily was stopped before the game got rated R.
The commander is cute bro holy shit!!!!!
5:35 WTF she got heart eyes
Most normal interaction between cloud and females,....
The Commander is pretty fine ngl 😏
mommy
The commander is hot
I think the commander is Emma aka Gun from Before Crisis aka Elena's older sister.
That'd be cool😉😂
13:20 - *_...What fresh hell did I just walk into????_* This is NOT how I imagined a skinhead bar to be like. XD
Cloud, RUN! They gonna shave your chocobo of a head!!!
5:37 Now I am wondering if she knows exactly who Cloud is and is intentionally promoting him to get closer to the president for whatever scheme he is trying? Commander might be part of a splinter cell within the Shinra military? So many possibilities in this games plot!
Probably a part of Wutai or even the Original Avalanche
@@FBI_Not hope not
original avalanche is menace, that's why they are hated
You can have your Tifas and Aeriths now.
Shinra Public Security Forces are awesome.
9:48 oh of course. They got Yuri Watanabe to get in this game as the commander, so I was quite sure Spider-Man wouldn’t be too far away.
Spider-Man is also Johnny!
NGL I could’ve played a whole game with the 7th infantry
Makes you realise not all of Shinra are "bad" people as a whole and that their are truly those within it that value human life and want to protect the innocent, obviously as always its the higher ups that are the corrupt and most evil greedy ones, i can't wait for this to come to PC so i can play it :3
The irony of Cloud not getting any recognition or respect until AFTER the Jenova incident and going underground as a criminal is one of the more hilarious bits.
Those are my boys!
Is Elena the commanders daughter or sister? They look so much alike.
According to the lore in Before Crisis Elena's sister was a former Turk who after that game went into hiding, Elena even refused to join the turks till her older sister left due to an intense sense of rivalry
@@AKASUKIJOE doesnt this sound/fit the description of Cissnei? just wondering
@nicksmanalo2636 it's not Cissnei though it is one if the selectable player turks like all of them we don't have an official name for her but her designation is Gun (Female)
The commander looks vaguely like a commissar from Warhammer 40,000!
the music is so good
Hopefully this won't be the last we see of these guys.
People have already suggested it but have them be the crew of the Highwind in Part 3
They're gonna be the crew of the submarine.
I expect these guys to become members of WRO after part 3.
junon part was very fun lol
Temari is that you? Lol
The soundtrack in the last part, sounds like from Ivalice. XD
is that elena sister ?
No, Emma has a slightly different design and I'm pretty sure she and the other Turks are far away from Shinra at this point.
I thought it was Gun too when I saw her.
Why would they get along with them? Is shinra troops are supposed to chase them?
Pretty sure they're just good people like Cloud and Zack when they joined Shinra
Shinra doesn't pay them enough. That and Rufus basically stopped caring. The commander probably knows, but will turn an eye. The grunts will just assume some black ops SOLDIER Turk psyops stuff is going on; Cloud helped them against the monster when no other reinforcements came right? He was clearly an undercover SOLDIER bodyguard; he saved the president on that podium!
The Captain was right on the podium with the new President when the Wutai assassin woman tried to take the shot! We saw everything! Clearly the Captain's a SOLDIER plant on bodyguard duty; the president even cut the feed to speak with him for a bit. If the Captain was in cahoots with the assasin, clearly the new President would have ordered everyone to shoot him right there on the podium.
they don't know they are baddie.
At first I doubt what you say, but once Cloud's helmet is down and he's speaking to them, while the Seventh Infantry's loyalty were definitely tested, they are indebted to the captain, gave him the benefit of the doubt. They eventually met on the field and showed further proof that they're fighting the good fight despite their reputation.
Rayos esa comandantes si que esta buena
In the original game I was a legend at screwing up the parade 😂
Ah yes the Adventure of privat Thunder head.
Do you have an Alternative Scene of 7th Infantry, where you keep 5 Infantry Alive instead of 3?
What's up with Rufus' outfit XD It looks like a dress ha ha ha! I like how one of the commanders is a female and that's so cool.
Can someone please write down the lyrics of Rufus' anthem? it sounds so good
These guys cannot take out a Hell Rider II and say that they hope for the sake on the one that can hope that they don't mean on the battle field.
MA'AM YES MA'AM!!!😍🖖🏿
Now one of the things I hope for in part 3 is that this hot commander and her seventh infantry unit troops will join Cid's Highwind crew somehow.
I want to play as the 7th infantry.
"an older, more mature girl that could keep you on the straight..." very wise words from his mom.
Commander needs a name... I like the name Edelgard for some reason.
well, bcs Shinra doomed to be destroyed by Weapon, i hope 7th infantry survived.
They likely are going to be the submarine or High wind crew. Cloud mentioned that you need a crew for the Highwind and also the commander looks similar to the crew in the submarine.
Too bad they cut out the most beautiful part, after they ask him whether they will see each other again
💔in the middle.
You know… the guns sorta bug me. They don’t have the butt stocks. I get it’s a fictional item but… can’t help but think it would have looked better with the conventional stock lol
I believe those are standard issue machine guns or assault rifles and to why they don't come with shoulder stocks. Something tells me the Shinra's military doctrine is somewhat similar to imperial stormtroopers of Star Wars. Meaning a lot of troopes shooting a lot of lead down range and no concerned with accuracy. As long they're firing in the direction where the enemy is who cares if they miss a several shots, they got the numbers or whatever.😅
They do have rifles with stocks as see in the Junon parade scene. but those look like they're used for ceremonial purposes only. Not to mention from looks of them they're seem to be base on breech loading rifles, but that's just a guess until we see the official weapon concept art.
@@RedWolf777SG I think they took the stocks off for ease of animation/clipping. In the original game, the troopers had stocks on their rifles hence why they suddenly have them in the parade scene so they can do the gun twirling from the original.
Wgs❤
2:38 Commander, you may join Cloud's Private Infantry. and she is NTR'ing both Aerith and Tifa IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES!
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