U nailed it. For the life of me I will never understand as a filmmaker why would u recycle a quote or a moment from someone else’s creation. Like how will u EVER have a classic of your own if u do that. I will never understand it lol
Thank you! It's so weird when another filmmaker recycles old lines in a franchise. It just comes across as try-hard and embarrassing. I feel like they had an opportunity to create a new and very meaningful line between Andy and Rain too.
I liked the opening on Jackson's Star Colony but once it became an Alien film it went downhill fast for me. The "Get your hands off her you Beetch" moment was the worst moment in any Alien movie and just dumb things like the guy saying he knew how to use the gun from reading it in a magazine was cringeworthy dialogue. When that Alien Human Hybrid came out at the end, i realised for all its faults Alien 4 was a more interesting film than this one.
I love Alien and Aliens. But the other films have been disappointing to poor and this is the same. A couple of good sequences but I had many issues with Romulus. SPOILERS: - The ending slenderman man thing was not for me. I prefer the xenos as simply a terrifying species, not a product of the black goo/giver of life stuff from Prometheus/Covenant. - The hideous CGI Ash! If it was a quick cameo where his face was half in shadow then fine but when he became a main character and the CGI was in bright light it took me out of the film. - Why is it now only 5 - 10 mins for a chestburster to be implanted/grow/emerge. In all other films it's taken at least several hours. - Similarly, how stupidly quick can the chestburster cocoon itself and grow in the sack on the wall into a full grown xeno? Seemed like minutes. - Again, how did the stupid thing at the end grow from a baby to an 11 foot xeno/engineer hybrid in a matter of minutes? - Why could the characters leave the mining planet with no questions asked with a spaceship I'm guessing belonging to the company? - Why were they the ONLY ones to notice a massive derelict spaceship? - Why does the android say the "you bitch" line? It's a callback to an event in the future which makes no sense. Also an android wouldn't say that. Would make more sense for him to make a dad style joke as that was his thing. - The pulse rifles here are better than the pulse rifles in Aliens with their auto aim. So they downgraded their weapons in Aliens? - Why does the Alien in the elevator shaft just scream at the main girl? Other than to give a cool looking shot? Aliens rip you apart/cocoon you asap. The only exceptions have been in Aliens when the Queen told a few xenos to back off as Ripley threatened her eggs and Alien 3 due to Ripley having a Queen inside her. - The facehugger hallway scene was cool in concept but they'd have been dead even without the radio call giving them away. They raise the temperature to mask themselves but are told don't make noise or even sweat. How are they not going to sweat when the temperature is raised that much? - How many people were on that derelict ship? They would be kept to minimal crew for costs but there seemed to be LOADS of xenos. They showed a few cocooned bodies but nowehere near the number of xenos. In Aliens/Hadley's Hope there are over 100 xenos because it's a terraforming station & it states the population being over 100 (can't recall the exact number). I just didn't like the film but the majority of people seemingly do which is cool. Just stating my reasons for my opinion.
Bro you nailed it. 😂 Plus... in 2... a group of elite marines were no match... here a kid with no weapon experience wipes out like 30 with 1 magazine. 😅 The baby thing was goooofy. I couldve walked out. Alien 1 and 2 are both in my top 10 movies of all time (actually liked Alien 3 too 😅) and this was terrible. Cant see me watching it ever again any time soon
I love the first two film too! Just rewatched them early this week with my community on Discord. As you said, this film just makes some baffling choices. Excellent breakdown!
Dude I just got outta the theater. I told myself to not get over hyped, that it'll just be an okay horror movie. I'm so disappointed. It had so much potential, but they just had to turn it into some CG action adventure movie. They could have had a great cast of actors, but no, they just had to go with 20 something nobodies with zero appeal, zero gravitas. It should have been grizzled miners pulling off a job for a colony mafia. For every good production decision there was like three stupid choices. Such a bummer.
I just watched it on imax today! Came out so disappointed. Looked great (cinematography and recreating Alien retro aesthetic) but the Alien was pathetic imo. This wasn’t a horror movie nor mentality stimulating enough for sci fi imo. Might aswell be a PG film.
It started to disintegrate for me when the facehugger was miraculously removed from the character but still was able to implant the alien embriyo (even though it was only on the host minutes). Then the alien was born within minutes after that...then movie continued to go downhill.
Can someone please tell me what's wrong or bad with the ending? I saw this movie and freaking loved it! From beginning to end, and to be honest the creature in the end was freaking phenomenal. I seriously don't see the negatives, and has been the funnest film I've seen all year
This is my opinion. The offspring looks like a human. We come to an alien movie to see an alien. We don't come to an alien movie to see a human hybrid. Can you imagine if the indominus Rex was a human hybrid dinosaur in jurassic world. I'm just saying the offspring isn't scary it's just tall and has a human face. It's literally resurrection all over again with a different "newborn". This is my opinion.
@TheNITRO68 actually I am I'm just not whiny and enjoy most movies for what it is, even if the cg isn't the best with Ian Holm, the ending being similar, or that one dumb rehashed one liner but at its core it's fun and at least has guns unlike alien 3 and would rather have more movies than none. But I'm glad you didn't enjoy it.
Loved it but 3 major issues for me. 1) totally unnecessary to crowbar Ash back in. Laughable cgi. Just use another synth variant. 2) the egregious usage of Ripleys iconic line when fighting the Queen in Aliens, in a film that technically pre-dates it. Seems bad form to me in that it undermines its impact now. 3) The Offspring. Awful. Taken me 25 years to block out Alien Resurrection and they felt they needed to try it again?? Hardly the "perfect organism" when it looked about as healthy as a Brundle-Fly.
You highlighted my three biggest issues with the film! All of these issues can easily be fixed with changes to the script. Thanks for watching as well!
It felt like the director tryed to make his own movie and Disney came in and edited it and inserted things that didn’t need to be there. But it was still decent enough in my opinion. 7/10
Well, Alvarez is known for doing unnecessary fan service in his Evil Dead Remake and he and his co-writer struggle with endings. Ridely Scott's presence probably didn't help either.
@@chrisjherman Evil Dead 2013 being a reboot, it was fine to have the callbacks. It's one of my fav horror movies in recent times and I think the ending was great - it had a 4th act that felt like an hommage to the original Alien films, which had me hyped for him taking over the franchise. But Romulus being a new entry is just ridiculous to have all these references. It's just shallow and lame. I think Alvarez has the talent and would've done something great but was definitely held back by Scott's prequel lore and Disney. 😒 It's so disappointing
It would be great if the writer made Andy perfect and not suffering a seizure or some form of malfunction and work his ass off to support Rain's livelihood, that way we could see the beautiful bond between the siblings couple. On top of that, it would be great if Andy was shown to have piloting skill and fly the Corbelan or whatever that ride they were in when they took off and escaped. After all Andy was created to do heavy duty stuffs on a mine field so a synthetic must be multiskilled to cover all kinds of jobs. I wish in this new instalment of Alien, a synthetic would take center stage as the protagonist protecting his beloved ward ie Rain.
Honestly, that final act was so wild, ballsy and disturbing that I actually dug the hell out of it. And Prometheus really isn’t that bad, it’s just Covenant that sucked and ruined everything that it had set up.
I really enjoyed the movie. I agree that the line from Aliens should not have been in there. Agreed, the gestation period of the Alien has been off for some time now. The last act should have been removed. This is my third pick on the Alien series.
We're pretty much on the same page. I think it's the third best as well, though I might dislike it a little bit more than you do. Thanks for checking out the review!
It had a lot of potential. Great set design, and effects. I liked Andy’s character. The cast was kept to a minimum so there was a chance with decent writing that they could grow on you. Almost like characters need arcs for us to get attached. Unfortunately instead of doing that, they focused on filling it up with memberberries, and cramming aspects of all 6 of the previous movies into one film. Especially that final act. I do not want or need the black goo, hybrids, or philosophical questions in an Alien movie. I want suspense, action, decent characters, and different types of xenos, by way of different species getting facehugged and seeing different castes within the Aliens hive system.
The only examples of a later entry into a franchise connecting to unpopular aspects of earlier entries is Clone Wars & WandaVision. I’ve always heard people say the Clone Wars series improves the prequels because of all the added story & context. & people have said that the later episodes in WandaVision improved Age of Ultron for them. Which people may forget, Ultron was not a well received movie when it came out. It made Joss quit directing for a while
When Ridley Scott is kept out of the writing room we get alien, when he’s allowed that creative control we get the prequels and this, and there’s your problem. He wanted to put his ideas in alien and it was not allowed, this is why
Yep, pretty much. The film lost me out the gate with the generically pretty fresh-faced cast. No shade to those kids, but I didn't buy them as indentured space slaves that had never see sunlight. It started to win me back but then lost me again with the zombie CGI cameo and the fact they *literally dug up* the OG alien. But you're right the film shat the bed for good by tying up with Ridley Scott's Prometheus/covenant gobbledygook. All those rubber bodybuilders and foppy robots did was neuter the cosmic lovecraftian horror of the original. I hate all that crap so much and I wish I could unsee these last three films.
Probably an 8 for me. The last boss at the end was not what i expected but was definitely scarier than resurrection. 3rd best Alien movie but the og Alien and Aliens cant really be beat.
The problem I had with this movie is that the plot is so by the numbers. I felt I've seen this movie before. That's not to say it's not enjoyable it's just so basic. I enjoyed Andy because he reminds me of the Android character "Father" from The series Raised by Wolves. In my opinion A Quiet Place Day One is the better Alien movie. It had no graphic violence and was far more scarier and engaging than Romulus.
I feel the same after watching Romulus. The 1st 2/3rd of the movie were really enjoyable. The last 3rd pulled me out. Mixed bag for me & falls way short of the first 2.
I guess IV doesn´t look that bad anymore. That´s what new movies do. Let us look fondly back on older entries of a franchise that were not fan favorites. That CGI character was atrocious. I laughed when you said Ridley wiggled his way into this one. Not good. 😂 So, greatest hits combined with the never otherwise released B-side singles. 🙈
Thank you! It's just so weird that Alvarez also wanted to do callbacks to some of the worst entries in the series. I could feel Ridley Scott's presence as a producer and it definitely bothered me.
The inclusion of a tracking mechanism on the pulse rifle was a clever and well-executed touch, and the anti-gravity acid blood scene demonstrated some genuine creativity. I particularly appreciated the emphasis on practical effects and sets, which added an authentic feel to the film. The score also contributed effectively to the atmosphere. However, the film's most significant flaw is that it treads familiar ground, offering little in the way of innovation within the franchise. The narrative recycles elements we've seen before, failing to break new ground. The characters are difficult to connect with, often making frustratingly poor decisions that only exacerbate their predicament, leaving me rooting for the Alien to end their misery. Andy was the only character I found remotely tolerable. As for the story, when you strip it down, it’s essentially the same premise the franchise has revisited time and again: a group of individuals becomes entangled in Weyland-Yutani's relentless pursuit of understanding the Alien for the purpose of creating bioweapons or, in this case, experimenting with the Xenomorph for other human enhancements-resulting, predictably, in everything going disastrously wrong. 5/10 Very average film and really the tagline for Alien: Romulus should be "The Most Okayest Alien Movie U Will Ever Experience"
Agreed on all the technical aspects of the film. The practical effects, sets, lighting and overall production design was wonderful. All the issues I have with this film are on the page. The CGI character can easily be changed, the ties to a certain infamous Alien movie can easily be left out, the dialogue can be scrubbed of obnoxious callbacks and the third act can be re-written to not be so goofy. It's frustrating.
Also adding the black goo isn't great. However, making a confirmation that it is a product from a xenomorph, not something that creates them, makes me forgive it.
Great set designs and practical Alien effects but as an actual film it just didn't work. Started off well on the Jackson's Star Colony and i wanted to see more of that world but as soon as it became a "Best of" Alien movies, it went downhill very fast. The dialogue was actually embarrassing at times and the fact they included the "Get your hands off her" line just summed up how devoid of ideas this film was.
@@chrisjherman Yes and i liked the reference to Blade Runner when she is being interviewed by the Terminal woman. It looked such an interesting world on the colony but we barely get to know it despite which was a great shame and it seemed it was rushed just to get us to Romulus asap. I'm looking forward to the FX TV series 'Alien: Earth' which i hope will explore Colony life far deeper.
⚠️⚠️⚠️ Spoilers I dont know how they did it, but they passed the whole movie with One Alien Kill! Kill count blue print. 1 Alien Chestbuster (That doesn't count) 2. Organ Explosion from acid. 3. Classic xenomorph head shot kill. 4. CGI zombie eating a neck. I would have threw the script out and said talked to me when you are serious. It's a Frankenstein movie, it doesn't have any material to stand on.Its own it stands on other parts and scenes from the series.So that's why it doesn't feel original. It's just a copy and pace cash grab. There's way too much wrong with the story as someone who writes them. The story never does anything new or gets chaotic or anything. It's some cool shots and ends in a replicated scene that is highly rejected. Maybe one day I will be able to write a decent chapter to the franchise that's not Ridly filter. Not a fan made events dish but a new plate to give the Audience something new to talk about and yet stays in the xenomorph elements and not humanize it with some CGI crap. The aliens come from a parasitic world. There's mutations and variants and other things and ways to explore the xenomorphs and not the universe. I'll leave it there.
Agreed . The hybrid offspring brought this movie down . I was expecting the queen xeno . Instead we got a monster who plays in Space Jam . Thus, I drank a fireball shot after the WTF is that moment . Then got home and got drunk from this disaster.
@@chrisjherman if you know these movies inside out, it's detrimental to the experience of its own plot. The audio callbacks are most distracting for me. flitting between all the movie scores and individual themes takes me out because that's what I'm processing. Xeno wilhelm screams ripped directly from aliens etc. Some people who have seen it are only picking out the bigger references, which would be lovely. Every few minutes there is some visual or audio cue to take my concentration off the plot. The bigger callbacks I generally could have done without, but they're not distracting. The plot itself is my bigger problem as an Alien movie. If it was a one off horror movie, it's a well made, effective film.
Last act the movie went off the cliff, they have a goldmine right in front of them with the xenomorph, explore and expand, how hard is that? Seems like the ship turned 360 degrees and the director took a 2 week smoke break, and told the writers to finish it. Now we have black goo, and engineer todlers, regurgitated AGAIN.....sigh
Thank you! That's very kind of you to say. I felt like I was pretty fair with this film. It has a lot of great stuff in it that I like, but it becomes frustrating later on.
That's totally okay! Nothing wrong with that at all. There are plenty of people digging the entire movie. Did you like Andy as well? Love his character.
They should have just made Alien Isolation into a movie. I consider that game the great 3rd part of the series. It had one good action scene at the end but you’re right the story and characters were very weak. I’m pretty sure Ridley Scott interfered a bit as a producer and the ending that came from Alvarez was just too much for me.
This felt much more an overly safe, money-producing ‘product’ than an actual film. The visuals and production quality felt top-notch, but the actual plot and constant replication of scenes from previous films felt like a badly-written fan fiction.
I enjoyed it up until the last 10-15 minutes of the movie. I didn't have a problem with them connecting certain movies to this one. The quote was to forced and stupid could have used a cheesy dad joke probably would have hit better. I like the cgi character but they could have done a better job on it. I think we needed more time with the crew. I didn't really feel a connection to any of them.
I didnt like it. I think having David on the Romulus instead of Rook would have made for a more engaging movie, and give a final chapter for the android. I thought the character development was poor. Worst of all, it wasnt scary or gory at all.
Alien! Romul-Kiss-My-Ass.. WTF! What were they thinking, Blomkamp would have run rings around this shit!! he already had Sigourney and Biehn on board but he got shut down because he wouldn't bow down to MR. Scott,, Marketing con suckered me into this movie being open minded and I should have known better. Not dissing the effects and practical effects and the production crew that deserves 100% as for the rest..I feel short changed....
Thank you! I just realized it while I was watching the third act when all these references came out of nowhere. Abrams and Alvarez share so many of the same flaws as filmmakers.
Thank you so much! I did enjoy a lot about the movie, but those things in the back half were really frustrating. Fully agree on Andy as well. He's such a great new character.
Agree I was all in… but around 15 mins in when introduced to lame supporting human characters, followed by huge plot hole that Weyland never sent up anyone in the company to go check out a huge vessel that’s entered the orbit of Weyland mining planet before these mining minions do totally took me out. It lost me at that major unbelievable set up and devolved into what I’d feared - a Teen Slasher Horror where I was rooting for the creature to kill the irritating humans. That’s not what I want from a classy Alien film. 5/10. This is not the Alien film to complete a trilogy you are looking for.
🤦 you can't complete the Trilogy, that's probably one. Alien 3 killed that. People need to let that go and just search for a new story out of the franchise. All the classic characters are dead sadly in this world.
I saw Alien Romulus last night with my Dad and, To be honest it was Underwhelming. The only Good things about The Movie were its Characters, some of the kill scenes, use of Practical effects & Animatronics, less use of CGI, and none of the forceful Political Messages or virtue-signalling that Hollywood loves to shove down audience's throats these days. However it's Story failed to bridge the gap between Alien and it's sequel Aliens, especially with it's anti-climactic/half-baked ending with No cliffhanger leading to the events of the next movie, which left me literally walking out of the theater confused over how it ended. The constant use of dialogue & references from previous movies or should we say "Member-Berries". And finally it wasn't Scary at all, only a few shocks and that freaky Human-Xenomorph hybrid which honestly looked like a Rake with a tail (Spoiler Alert). In conclusion, Alien Romulus was just a-run in-the-mill Scifi Horror Movie made to cash-in on the Franchise' Name but failed to bridge the gap between the Two Movies (as a "Midequal"), and even failed to SACRE ME as a HORROR Movie, thus didn't live up to the advertising. Even when we watched it in IMAX it was hardly impressive. My Dad gave this Movie a 6 out of 10. It wasn't the Worst Movie, but it wasn't the Best either, It felt more like a waste of time. Once again, to Me it seems it's a longer road for the Aliens Franchise to recover after Prometheus and Alien Covenant, still struggling to get back up on its feet and re-capture what made the previous Movies great. If You liked the Movie, good for you, but don't try to bash me in the comments because I didn't enjoy the Movie, it's just my personal opinion and I'm sure that there's other people that have seen the movie and felt the same way.
I just rewatched all the alien movies and resurrection was definitely better than pt 3 ,pt 3 suckkkked . I didnt really see that much fan servise in romulus that i noticed right away none of it botthered me . Prometheus and covanet seeemd wayyyy better watching them now then when they came out l really liked them alot more ,avp was pretty cool i couldnt belive in that version bishop from alien 2 and 3 was based off of waylend the same actor plays weyland in avp 😂 , avp is connected to predator 2018 but there not connected to Prometheus and covnant .
@@chrisjherman I think if they made the film feel more claustrophobic and feel more compact it could be better at points it did feel like they was sort of used to the alien and not scared anymore which is strange so get u
Need to learn more about screenwriting man. Your opinion isnt invalid it just doesnt matter just like an opinion that supports the movie doesnt matter. No ones opinion matters when it comes to story tellings. Its about telling a story that is commercially feasible as well as a visual experience. A few seconds of a scene of a room full of aliens cost more to produce than most peoples yearly salaries. Movies arent about storylines like novels are. A novel gets a whole chapter to explore a theme where a movie only gets a few seconds of a scene. Being able to appreciate that the franchise is still being developed instead of trashed I feel is better than giving up on it
The alien franchise isn’t going into obscurity because a new movie isn’t coming out. Why would you prefer they keep bringing out subpar movies than let the good ones sit as classics?
Oh, c’mon! It’s very good-period. No “until” no “until.” 😂 Seriously, respectfully disagree. Nevertheless, this is going to make a lot of money. It’s a hit. It’s a winner. Hey, we’re just talkin’ movies here.
As I said, I think the first half is great and Andy is a wonderful character. It was doing so much right, but as soon as that CGI character is introduced, it starts to fall apart. The fan service, callback lines and how it ties itself to some of the worst entries in the franchise is just baffling to me. Agree to disagree on this one, but I wanted to love it.
I think this film is great, and I love the lore that the Ridley Scott prequels add to the series. Theres still so much mystery
I really enjoy half the movie, but I don't care for the Prometheus connections.
U nailed it. For the life of me I will never understand as a filmmaker why would u recycle a quote or a moment from someone else’s creation. Like how will u EVER have a classic of your own if u do that. I will never understand it lol
Thank you! It's so weird when another filmmaker recycles old lines in a franchise. It just comes across as try-hard and embarrassing. I feel like they had an opportunity to create a new and very meaningful line between Andy and Rain too.
It was down right cringe borderline insulting @@chrisjherman
I liked the opening on Jackson's Star Colony but once it became an Alien film it went downhill fast for me. The "Get your hands off her you Beetch" moment was the worst moment in any Alien movie and just dumb things like the guy saying he knew how to use the gun from reading it in a magazine was cringeworthy dialogue. When that Alien Human Hybrid came out at the end, i realised for all its faults Alien 4 was a more interesting film than this one.
You say that BUT.. In the Road House remake I was REALLY disappointed the "Guys like you in Jail" line WASNT used ! lmao ITS A GREAT EFFIN LINE !
@@deontecoleman7047 why do u care to hear a quote that’s not gonna be as good or even better than when it was previously stated?!😂
I love Alien and Aliens. But the other films have been disappointing to poor and this is the same. A couple of good sequences but I had many issues with Romulus. SPOILERS:
- The ending slenderman man thing was not for me. I prefer the xenos as simply a terrifying species, not a product of the black goo/giver of life stuff from Prometheus/Covenant.
- The hideous CGI Ash! If it was a quick cameo where his face was half in shadow then fine but when he became a main character and the CGI was in bright light it took me out of the film.
- Why is it now only 5 - 10 mins for a chestburster to be implanted/grow/emerge. In all other films it's taken at least several hours.
- Similarly, how stupidly quick can the chestburster cocoon itself and grow in the sack on the wall into a full grown xeno? Seemed like minutes.
- Again, how did the stupid thing at the end grow from a baby to an 11 foot xeno/engineer hybrid in a matter of minutes?
- Why could the characters leave the mining planet with no questions asked with a spaceship I'm guessing belonging to the company?
- Why were they the ONLY ones to notice a massive derelict spaceship?
- Why does the android say the "you bitch" line? It's a callback to an event in the future which makes no sense. Also an android wouldn't say that. Would make more sense for him to make a dad style joke as that was his thing.
- The pulse rifles here are better than the pulse rifles in Aliens with their auto aim. So they downgraded their weapons in Aliens?
- Why does the Alien in the elevator shaft just scream at the main girl? Other than to give a cool looking shot? Aliens rip you apart/cocoon you asap. The only exceptions have been in Aliens when the Queen told a few xenos to back off as Ripley threatened her eggs and Alien 3 due to Ripley having a Queen inside her.
- The facehugger hallway scene was cool in concept but they'd have been dead even without the radio call giving them away. They raise the temperature to mask themselves but are told don't make noise or even sweat. How are they not going to sweat when the temperature is raised that much?
- How many people were on that derelict ship? They would be kept to minimal crew for costs but there seemed to be LOADS of xenos. They showed a few cocooned bodies but nowehere near the number of xenos. In Aliens/Hadley's Hope there are over 100 xenos because it's a terraforming station & it states the population being over 100 (can't recall the exact number).
I just didn't like the film but the majority of people seemingly do which is cool. Just stating my reasons for my opinion.
Bro you nailed it. 😂 Plus... in 2... a group of elite marines were no match... here a kid with no weapon experience wipes out like 30 with 1 magazine. 😅
The baby thing was goooofy. I couldve walked out.
Alien 1 and 2 are both in my top 10 movies of all time (actually liked Alien 3 too 😅) and this was terrible. Cant see me watching it ever again any time soon
I love the first two film too! Just rewatched them early this week with my community on Discord. As you said, this film just makes some baffling choices. Excellent breakdown!
Completely agree on all fronts
Dude I just got outta the theater. I told myself to not get over hyped, that it'll just be an okay horror movie. I'm so disappointed. It had so much potential, but they just had to turn it into some CG action adventure movie. They could have had a great cast of actors, but no, they just had to go with 20 something nobodies with zero appeal, zero gravitas. It should have been grizzled miners pulling off a job for a colony mafia. For every good production decision there was like three stupid choices. Such a bummer.
I just watched it on imax today!
Came out so disappointed.
Looked great (cinematography and recreating Alien retro aesthetic) but the Alien was pathetic imo. This wasn’t a horror movie nor mentality stimulating enough for sci fi imo.
Might aswell be a PG film.
I really like your grizzled miners idea. Very world weary, but tough and bitter from time spent on that world. Good stuff!
It started to disintegrate for me when the facehugger was miraculously removed from the character but still was able to implant the alien embriyo (even though it was only on the host minutes). Then the alien was born within minutes after that...then movie continued to go downhill.
Yeah it breaks Canon and anything the breaks Alien and Aliens canon does not count in my book.
You bring up a good point. Alien movies post-Aliens are wildly inconsistent with the gestation of the chestburster embryo
Can someone please tell me what's wrong or bad with the ending? I saw this movie and freaking loved it! From beginning to end, and to be honest the creature in the end was freaking phenomenal. I seriously don't see the negatives, and has been the funnest film I've seen all year
Are you asking a real question? You liked the ending so what's the point. Baby to ten foot smiley guy in five minutes c'mon man
This is my opinion. The offspring looks like a human. We come to an alien movie to see an alien. We don't come to an alien movie to see a human hybrid. Can you imagine if the indominus Rex was a human hybrid dinosaur in jurassic world. I'm just saying the offspring isn't scary it's just tall and has a human face. It's literally resurrection all over again with a different "newborn". This is my opinion.
Personally, it felt rushed and very derivative of another Alien movie ending. I thought the creature looked goofy and the CGI was out of place.
If your an avid fan you should know the answer to why, but as your not I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@TheNITRO68 actually I am I'm just not whiny and enjoy most movies for what it is, even if the cg isn't the best with Ian Holm, the ending being similar, or that one dumb rehashed one liner but at its core it's fun and at least has guns unlike alien 3 and would rather have more movies than none. But I'm glad you didn't enjoy it.
Tbh promuteus is my least favorite alien movie 2/10
Loved it but 3 major issues for me. 1) totally unnecessary to crowbar Ash back in. Laughable cgi. Just use another synth variant. 2) the egregious usage of Ripleys iconic line when fighting the Queen in Aliens, in a film that technically pre-dates it. Seems bad form to me in that it undermines its impact now. 3) The Offspring. Awful. Taken me 25 years to block out Alien Resurrection and they felt they needed to try it again?? Hardly the "perfect organism" when it looked about as healthy as a Brundle-Fly.
You highlighted my three biggest issues with the film! All of these issues can easily be fixed with changes to the script. Thanks for watching as well!
It felt like the director tryed to make his own movie and Disney came in and edited it and inserted things that didn’t need to be there. But it was still decent enough in my opinion. 7/10
Well, Alvarez is known for doing unnecessary fan service in his Evil Dead Remake and he and his co-writer struggle with endings. Ridely Scott's presence probably didn't help either.
@@chrisjherman Evil Dead 2013 being a reboot, it was fine to have the callbacks. It's one of my fav horror movies in recent times and I think the ending was great - it had a 4th act that felt like an hommage to the original Alien films, which had me hyped for him taking over the franchise. But Romulus being a new entry is just ridiculous to have all these references. It's just shallow and lame. I think Alvarez has the talent and would've done something great but was definitely held back by Scott's prequel lore and Disney. 😒 It's so disappointing
I enjoyed the movie. I did notice some of the callbacks
Happy you dug it. I really enjoyed the first half.
The good outweighed the bad for me. I loved 95% of it
Nice! What part didn't work for you?
@@chrisjherman I thought there were too many call backs. I also didn’t like the ending.
Chris I agree with you. You have to talk about this again on Double Toasted. You, Corey and Martin are Comedy gold
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed the review. I'll be reviewing The Crow later this week as well.
@@chrisjhermanMasterful elephant avoidance.
It would be great if the writer made Andy perfect and not suffering a seizure or some form of malfunction and work his ass off to support Rain's livelihood, that way we could see the beautiful bond between the siblings couple. On top of that, it would be great if Andy was shown to have piloting skill and fly the Corbelan or whatever that ride they were in when they took off and escaped. After all Andy was created to do heavy duty stuffs on a mine field so a synthetic must be multiskilled to cover all kinds of jobs. I wish in this new instalment of Alien, a synthetic would take center stage as the protagonist protecting his beloved ward ie Rain.
I actually liked that he was malfunctioning. Made him more interesting, sad and sympathetic.
Honestly, that final act was so wild, ballsy and disturbing that I actually dug the hell out of it.
And Prometheus really isn’t that bad, it’s just Covenant that sucked and ruined everything that it had set up.
I really enjoyed the movie. I agree that the line from Aliens should not have been in there. Agreed, the gestation period of the Alien has been off for some time now. The last act should have been removed. This is my third pick on the Alien series.
We're pretty much on the same page. I think it's the third best as well, though I might dislike it a little bit more than you do. Thanks for checking out the review!
It had a lot of potential. Great set design, and effects. I liked Andy’s character. The cast was kept to a minimum so there was a chance with decent writing that they could grow on you. Almost like characters need arcs for us to get attached. Unfortunately instead of doing that, they focused on filling it up with memberberries, and cramming aspects of all 6 of the previous movies into one film. Especially that final act. I do not want or need the black goo, hybrids, or philosophical questions in an Alien movie. I want suspense, action, decent characters, and different types of xenos, by way of different species getting facehugged and seeing different castes within the Aliens hive system.
The only examples of a later entry into a franchise connecting to unpopular aspects of earlier entries is Clone Wars & WandaVision. I’ve always heard people say the Clone Wars series improves the prequels because of all the added story & context. & people have said that the later episodes in WandaVision improved Age of Ultron for them. Which people may forget, Ultron was not a well received movie when it came out. It made Joss quit directing for a while
You bring up a good point! Sadly, I feel like the lesser entry connection takes away from Romulus. It devolves into some goofiness.
This movie makes me want to play Alien isolation again
Same! Made me want run and hide from the Alien 😅
When Ridley Scott is kept out of the writing room we get alien, when he’s allowed that creative control we get the prequels and this, and there’s your problem. He wanted to put his ideas in alien and it was not allowed, this is why
" The next JJ Abrams"- Well, I have to agree.
Thanks! Fede Alvarez has talent, but his writing and fan service undercuts his movies.
JJ Abrams is still better than Michael Bay, Zack Snyder and Colin Trevorrow.
Yep, pretty much. The film lost me out the gate with the generically pretty fresh-faced cast. No shade to those kids, but I didn't buy them as indentured space slaves that had never see sunlight. It started to win me back but then lost me again with the zombie CGI cameo and the fact they *literally dug up* the OG alien. But you're right the film shat the bed for good by tying up with Ridley Scott's Prometheus/covenant gobbledygook. All those rubber bodybuilders and foppy robots did was neuter the cosmic lovecraftian horror of the original. I hate all that crap so much and I wish I could unsee these last three films.
Probably an 8 for me. The last boss at the end was not what i expected but was definitely scarier than resurrection. 3rd best Alien movie but the og Alien and Aliens cant really be beat.
I'd definitely rank Romulus third as well. Agreed that it doesn't reach the same heights of the first two.
100% agree
Started as a 9/10 and finished as a 5/10 for me. Sad.
Thank you! Yeah, I was initially very impressed, but sadly letdown by the end.
The problem I had with this movie is that the plot is so by the numbers. I felt I've seen this movie before. That's not to say it's not enjoyable it's just so basic. I enjoyed Andy because he reminds me of the Android character "Father" from The series Raised by Wolves. In my opinion A Quiet Place Day One is the better Alien movie. It had no graphic violence and was far more scarier and engaging than Romulus.
I get that but looking at how people complained about Prometheus and Covenant they probably wanted to play it safe
You're not wrong about the story. It's fairly straightforward and back to basics. Also, I preferred A Quiet Place Day One as well.
I feel the same after watching Romulus. The 1st 2/3rd of the movie were really enjoyable. The last 3rd pulled me out. Mixed bag for me & falls way short of the first 2.
I fully agree with you. I really wanted to love it, but that last third makes some very odd choices. Thanks for watching the review too!
I guess IV doesn´t look that bad anymore. That´s what new movies do. Let us look fondly back on older entries of a franchise that were not fan favorites. That CGI character was atrocious. I laughed when you said Ridley wiggled his way into this one. Not good. 😂 So, greatest hits combined with the never otherwise released B-side singles. 🙈
Agreed.
Ridley was balanced by Dan OBannon, who is being strangely ignored.
Thank you! It's just so weird that Alvarez also wanted to do callbacks to some of the worst entries in the series. I could feel Ridley Scott's presence as a producer and it definitely bothered me.
The inclusion of a tracking mechanism on the pulse rifle was a clever and well-executed touch, and the anti-gravity acid blood scene demonstrated some genuine creativity. I particularly appreciated the emphasis on practical effects and sets, which added an authentic feel to the film. The score also contributed effectively to the atmosphere. However, the film's most significant flaw is that it treads familiar ground, offering little in the way of innovation within the franchise. The narrative recycles elements we've seen before, failing to break new ground. The characters are difficult to connect with, often making frustratingly poor decisions that only exacerbate their predicament, leaving me rooting for the Alien to end their misery. Andy was the only character I found remotely tolerable. As for the story, when you strip it down, it’s essentially the same premise the franchise has revisited time and again: a group of individuals becomes entangled in Weyland-Yutani's relentless pursuit of understanding the Alien for the purpose of creating bioweapons or, in this case, experimenting with the Xenomorph for other human enhancements-resulting, predictably, in everything going disastrously wrong. 5/10 Very average film and really the tagline for Alien: Romulus should be "The Most Okayest Alien Movie U Will Ever Experience"
Agreed on all the technical aspects of the film. The practical effects, sets, lighting and overall production design was wonderful. All the issues I have with this film are on the page. The CGI character can easily be changed, the ties to a certain infamous Alien movie can easily be left out, the dialogue can be scrubbed of obnoxious callbacks and the third act can be re-written to not be so goofy. It's frustrating.
Also adding the black goo isn't great. However, making a confirmation that it is a product from a xenomorph, not something that creates them, makes me forgive it.
Great set designs and practical Alien effects but as an actual film it just didn't work. Started off well on the Jackson's Star Colony and i wanted to see more of that world but as soon as it became a "Best of" Alien movies, it went downhill very fast. The dialogue was actually embarrassing at times and the fact they included the "Get your hands off her" line just summed up how devoid of ideas this film was.
I would have liked to have spent more time on that mining colony too. It was so wonderfully realized and miserable looking.
@@chrisjherman Yes and i liked the reference to Blade Runner when she is being interviewed by the Terminal woman. It looked such an interesting world on the colony but we barely get to know it despite which was a great shame and it seemed it was rushed just to get us to Romulus asap. I'm looking forward to the FX TV series 'Alien: Earth' which i hope will explore Colony life far deeper.
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I dont know how they did it, but they passed the whole movie with One Alien Kill!
Kill count blue print.
1 Alien Chestbuster
(That doesn't count)
2. Organ Explosion from acid.
3. Classic xenomorph head shot kill.
4. CGI zombie eating a neck.
I would have threw the script out and said talked to me when you are serious.
It's a Frankenstein movie, it doesn't have any material to stand on.Its own it stands on other parts and scenes from the series.So that's why it doesn't feel original. It's just a copy and pace cash grab. There's way too much wrong with the story as someone who writes them. The story never does anything new or gets chaotic or anything. It's some cool shots and ends in a replicated scene that is highly rejected.
Maybe one day I will be able to write a decent chapter to the franchise that's not Ridly filter.
Not a fan made events dish but a new plate to give the Audience something new to talk about and yet stays in the xenomorph elements and not humanize it with some CGI crap. The aliens come from a parasitic world.
There's mutations and variants and other things and ways to explore the xenomorphs and not the universe.
I'll leave it there.
Excellent breakdown for the kills! Yeah, the screenplay is flawed and frustrating.
Agreed . The hybrid offspring brought this movie down . I was expecting the queen xeno . Instead we got a monster who plays in Space Jam . Thus, I drank a fireball shot after the WTF is that moment . Then got home and got drunk from this disaster.
I knew there would be some issues when the first interior had the giant pecking bird framed and back lit.
That didn't bother me too much, though it did precede the avalanche of references in the back half.
@@chrisjherman if you know these movies inside out, it's detrimental to the experience of its own plot.
The audio callbacks are most distracting for me. flitting between all the movie scores and individual themes takes me out because that's what I'm processing. Xeno wilhelm screams ripped directly from aliens etc. Some people who have seen it are only picking out the bigger references, which would be lovely. Every few minutes there is some visual or audio cue to take my concentration off the plot. The bigger callbacks I generally could have done without, but they're not distracting.
The plot itself is my bigger problem as an Alien movie. If it was a one off horror movie, it's a well made, effective film.
I liked it until I didn't sums this up for me. The first CGI character sucked me out of the movie, the 2nd actively had me turn against it.
It was the first red flag of the movie for me, and I completely agree with you on that goofy, CGI monstrosity at the end.
Last act the movie went off the cliff, they have a goldmine right in front of them with the xenomorph, explore and expand, how hard is that? Seems like the ship turned 360 degrees and the director took a 2 week smoke break, and told the writers to finish it. Now we have black goo, and engineer todlers, regurgitated AGAIN.....sigh
People still not getting the CGI Ash robot was supposed to look like that! on purpose because it was bloody damaged artificial person! ... Duuuuuhhh
I doubt that. Why is his face floating and too small for his head?
One of the best and insightful takes here.
Thank you! That's very kind of you to say. I felt like I was pretty fair with this film. It has a lot of great stuff in it that I like, but it becomes frustrating later on.
I don't know dude...
I guess I just don't agree with you on a lot of your points. .
That's totally okay! Nothing wrong with that at all. There are plenty of people digging the entire movie. Did you like Andy as well? Love his character.
Andy actor went full Rain Man.
Rain as a female lead dropped the ball Ripley dunked it.
What happened to the big chap and the crew on the Romulus should have been what the movie was about
They should have just made Alien Isolation into a movie. I consider that game the great 3rd part of the series. It had one good action scene at the end but you’re right the story and characters were very weak. I’m pretty sure Ridley Scott interfered a bit as a producer and the ending that came from Alvarez was just too much for me.
This felt much more an overly safe, money-producing ‘product’ than an actual film. The visuals and production quality felt top-notch, but the actual plot and constant replication of scenes from previous films felt like a badly-written fan fiction.
I didn't mind the straightforward nature of it initially, but badly written fan fiction is a great way to describe the back half.
@@chrisjherman I definitely agree that I was more invested during the first half of the film.
I enjoyed it up until the last 10-15 minutes of the movie. I didn't have a problem with them connecting certain movies to this one. The quote was to forced and stupid could have used a cheesy dad joke probably would have hit better. I like the cgi character but they could have done a better job on it. I think we needed more time with the crew. I didn't really feel a connection to any of them.
Hey Chris ! "Alien:Romulus" OR "Prey" ??
Hello! Prey for me.
Totally agree with this! Is there any director / writer that can turn the Alien franchise around?
I didnt like it. I think having David on the Romulus instead of Rook would have made for a more engaging movie, and give a final chapter for the android.
I thought the character development was poor.
Worst of all, it wasnt scary or gory at all.
A new android would have worked for me. Wouldn't have needed the CGI at all.
Michael Fassbender's David is my favourite Android in the franchise, I would of loved to have seen him make a return to the series.
Alien! Romul-Kiss-My-Ass.. WTF! What were they thinking, Blomkamp would have run rings around this shit!! he already had Sigourney and Biehn on board but he got shut down because he wouldn't bow down to MR. Scott,, Marketing con suckered me into this movie being open minded and I should have known better. Not dissing the effects and practical effects and the production crew that deserves 100% as for the rest..I feel short changed....
JJ Abrams of horror, spot on 👌
Thank you! I just realized it while I was watching the third act when all these references came out of nowhere. Abrams and Alvarez share so many of the same flaws as filmmakers.
The whole movie sucked😂
I actually think the first half is quite good, but it makes some mistakes later on.
@@chrisjherman they could have done something really original
Awesome review and I enjoyed the movie, but I do think it leaned too heavy in some of the fan service and David Johnson was so good as Andy.
Thank you so much! I did enjoy a lot about the movie, but those things in the back half were really frustrating. Fully agree on Andy as well. He's such a great new character.
Agree I was all in… but around 15 mins in when introduced to lame supporting human characters, followed by huge plot hole that Weyland never sent up anyone in the company to go check out a huge vessel that’s entered the orbit of Weyland mining planet before these mining minions do totally took me out. It lost me at that major unbelievable set up and devolved into what I’d feared - a Teen Slasher Horror where I was rooting for the creature to kill the irritating humans. That’s not what I want from a classy Alien film. 5/10. This is not the Alien film to complete a trilogy you are looking for.
🤦 you can't complete the Trilogy, that's probably one. Alien 3 killed that. People need to let that go and just search for a new story out of the franchise. All the classic characters are dead sadly in this world.
I saw Alien Romulus last night with my Dad and, To be honest it was Underwhelming.
The only Good things about The Movie were its Characters, some of the kill scenes, use of Practical effects & Animatronics, less use of CGI, and none of the forceful Political Messages or virtue-signalling that Hollywood loves to shove down audience's throats these days.
However it's Story failed to bridge the gap between Alien and it's sequel Aliens, especially with it's anti-climactic/half-baked ending with No cliffhanger leading to the events of the next movie, which left me literally walking out of the theater confused over how it ended. The constant use of dialogue & references from previous movies or should we say "Member-Berries". And finally it wasn't Scary at all, only a few shocks and that freaky Human-Xenomorph hybrid which honestly looked like a Rake with a tail (Spoiler Alert).
In conclusion, Alien Romulus was just a-run in-the-mill Scifi Horror Movie made to
cash-in on the Franchise' Name but failed to bridge the gap between the Two Movies (as a "Midequal"), and even failed to SACRE ME as a HORROR Movie, thus didn't live up to the advertising.
Even when we watched it in IMAX it was hardly impressive.
My Dad gave this Movie a 6 out of 10.
It wasn't the Worst Movie, but it wasn't the Best either, It felt more like a waste of time.
Once again, to Me it seems it's a longer road for the Aliens Franchise to recover after Prometheus and Alien Covenant, still struggling to get back up on its feet and re-capture what made the previous Movies great.
If You liked the Movie, good for you, but don't try to bash me in the comments because I didn't enjoy the Movie, it's just my personal opinion and I'm sure that there's other people that have seen the movie and felt the same way.
I also feel like hybrids would be excepted if they looked cool and not handicap and deformed 😂
I just rewatched all the alien movies and resurrection was definitely better than pt 3 ,pt 3 suckkkked . I didnt really see that much fan servise in romulus that i noticed right away none of it botthered me .
Prometheus and covanet seeemd wayyyy better watching them now then when they came out l really liked them alot more ,avp was pretty cool i couldnt belive in that version bishop from alien 2 and 3 was based off of waylend the same actor plays weyland in avp 😂 , avp is connected to predator 2018 but there not connected to Prometheus and covnant .
plz tell me isabella was 3 months away from retirement
Ha! Let's just say her due date was accelerated 😅
I thought the film was the best since aliens imo
You're right. It probably is, but it doesn't have stiff competition for that spot.
@@chrisjherman I think if they made the film feel more claustrophobic and feel more compact it could be better at points it did feel like they was sort of used to the alien and not scared anymore which is strange so get u
Alot of people leaving the theater, found it dull
Rook looked good in my theater. :)
I really didn't like the CGI face. It didn't fit on his head and the uncanny valley of it all took me out.
@@chrisjherman That CGI was very noticeable, the CGI on the aliens was way better.
All the copied stuff in the second half is an absolute disgrace.... ruined it for me
It was just so unnecessary. It felt so awkward and out of place. Loved the first half, but the last half was disappointing
As for the 3rd best I’d have to say I liked the first AvP better then this movie
The callbacks made my eyes roll and the last 20 minutes were awful and pointless.
Fully agree. The dialogue callbacks were so unnecessary, and that last part was just super goofy.
Disappointing. It makes you realise just how good Alien and Aliens are.
Not a great movie, disappointing
Need to learn more about screenwriting man. Your opinion isnt invalid it just doesnt matter just like an opinion that supports the movie doesnt matter. No ones opinion matters when it comes to story tellings. Its about telling a story that is commercially feasible as well as a visual experience. A few seconds of a scene of a room full of aliens cost more to produce than most peoples yearly salaries. Movies arent about storylines like novels are. A novel gets a whole chapter to explore a theme where a movie only gets a few seconds of a scene. Being able to appreciate that the franchise is still being developed instead of trashed I feel is better than giving up on it
Nihilism much? 🤣
The alien franchise isn’t going into obscurity because a new movie isn’t coming out. Why would you prefer they keep bringing out subpar movies than let the good ones sit as classics?
Oh, c’mon! It’s very good-period. No “until” no “until.”
😂
Seriously, respectfully disagree. Nevertheless, this is going to make a lot of money. It’s a hit. It’s a winner.
Hey, we’re just talkin’ movies here.
As I said, I think the first half is great and Andy is a wonderful character. It was doing so much right, but as soon as that CGI character is introduced, it starts to fall apart. The fan service, callback lines and how it ties itself to some of the worst entries in the franchise is just baffling to me. Agree to disagree on this one, but I wanted to love it.
It was trash…
The slowest, dumbest, softest Alien. Far from the perfect organism…
Nah, it was good til the end, stop it.
Stop what? It's just my review and I highlighted what I liked and didn't like about the film.