How ancient Herculaneum papyrus scrolls were deciphered

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  • Artificial intelligence has helped decipher an ancient papyrus scroll, which was transformed into a lump of blackened carbon by volcanic ash from Mount Vesuvius in AD 79. The first passages of readable text reveal never-before-seen musings from a Greek philosopher.
    The discovery nabbed the $700,000 grand prize in the Vesuvius Challenge, and used a combination of 3D mapping and AI techniques to detect ink and decipher letter shapes within segments of scrolls known as the Herculaneum papyri, which had been digitally scanned. The combined efforts of the winning team members - Youssef Nader, Luke Farritor and Julian Schilliger - could pave the way for more discoveries from additional papyrus scrolls that were once housed in a library in the ancient Roman town of Herculaneum.
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  • @swthelostarchives
    @swthelostarchives 3 місяці тому +47

    The progress of Ai is insane! This is a great use for it

    • @dhm7815
      @dhm7815 3 місяці тому +1

      AI is usually a buzzword for computer programming. The programs here do not reprogram themselves or each other, that is, rethink their own or others logic.

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 3 місяці тому +26

    would love to see a full documentary on this...hope its being made by someone. PS - frustrated by how everything is labelled AI these days...even if it is not the core software

  • @sftommy01
    @sftommy01 3 місяці тому +19

    How many other libraries still lay carbonized and buried in Herculaneum ?
    Where one rich man had a library, his friends and competitors are likely to have had theirs

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 3 місяці тому +4

      So far only part of the top floor of the library supposedly collected by L Calpurnius Piso has been recovered. Those scrolls are all in Greek, so it is presumed that the floor below holds his Latin scrolls.

    • @JohnSmith-en6ev
      @JohnSmith-en6ev 2 місяці тому +1

      Maybe it's all greek 😂

  • @redbarchetta8782
    @redbarchetta8782 3 місяці тому +9

    I've been following this and man, what an amazing thing to witness. We might be seeing unknown works from some of the greatest in Western thinkers.

  • @Caligulashorse1453
    @Caligulashorse1453 3 місяці тому +8

    This is super exciting! I’ve been keeping up with this project I’m both a historian and theology nerd I can’t wait to see what else they find especially with older religious text

  • @lindaj5492
    @lindaj5492 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank goodness for the people in this project who caught the ‘science & computing bug’ and have been able to pursue their passion!

  • @davidjooste5788
    @davidjooste5788 3 місяці тому +8

    Hopefully this will include Aristotle's lost works
    What an incredible project. Im inspired.😮😮

    • @FloatingOer
      @FloatingOer 3 місяці тому +1

      Hopefully one or two works from the "Epic Cycle" can be found as well, as only the Iliad and Odyssey (2/8) have survived till modern age

  • @DreadPyriteBob
    @DreadPyriteBob 3 місяці тому +5

    Bro I have been waiting for them to do this for years!!! The hype is real!!

  • @mafarmerga
    @mafarmerga 3 місяці тому +5

    this is F'ing amazing.
    And I have spent a career in imaging and image processing.

  • @michaelcapeless3268
    @michaelcapeless3268 3 місяці тому +3

    Not enough detail - but thanks for this - I'd like to know more about how the "scan" was conducted.

  • @colorbugoriginals4457
    @colorbugoriginals4457 3 місяці тому +1

    I usually insist that tech that seems impossible is coming...but I did not see this one happening. I'd have called this impossible and I'd have been wrong. So incredible, please keep up the good work. 😮

  • @susanne5803
    @susanne5803 3 місяці тому +3

    This is breathtaking!

  • @stevefranklin9176
    @stevefranklin9176 3 місяці тому +1

    Congratulations absolutely astounding work.

  • @wernerkrautler8668
    @wernerkrautler8668 3 місяці тому

    still unbelievable. great job done.

  • @cristinabutasimon9159
    @cristinabutasimon9159 3 місяці тому +2

    So, if they were deciphered what do they say?
    Some people are more thrilled to know the content than the technology used to read them.

    • @juliettelynne5861
      @juliettelynne5861 3 місяці тому

      Couldn’t they give us at least two words?

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 Місяць тому +3

      ​​@@juliettelynne5861They are the rolls of Philedomos of Gadara. Till now, they discovered the (possible, they're gonna check if it's true) real place where Plato is burried and corrected a few mistakes about his life that we saw as a fact. And it also contains him complaining about a foreign artist playing his music in thrace. And that's just 1/3!

    • @ValidatingUsername
      @ValidatingUsername 29 днів тому

      There are claims and two papers circulating that “lead” likely intentionally introduced into the ink has allowed some sections to be interpolated and then run through an AI translator as well.

    • @loveslayer718
      @loveslayer718 29 днів тому

      @@houseplant1016 where can we read them?

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 3 місяці тому

    If they can bring back a single lost book from antiquity this will be incredible. Imagine if they find and decipher Ptolemies Biography of Alexander the great. We'd have our first "Firsthand account" of Alexander's campaigns! We know they existed because later Historians cited Ptolemies book as a source.

  • @lindaj5492
    @lindaj5492 3 місяці тому

    Diamond Light Source is an amazing place to visit, if they’re still doing open days! High security place so you’d need to book well in advance.

  • @georgekraus9357
    @georgekraus9357 3 місяці тому

    His technology is actually extremely useful for medical imaging, allowing radiologists to see organs and bones in 3D !!!

  • @atrocitasinterfector
    @atrocitasinterfector 3 місяці тому

    hopefully we can do this to find the neural correlates of specific conscious states

  • @vaxxedfilms7477
    @vaxxedfilms7477 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant, congrats and thanks

  • @stefanigarcia87
    @stefanigarcia87 3 місяці тому

    Estou fascinada! É incrível!

  • @marmieRH
    @marmieRH Місяць тому +1

    What does it say on these scrolls?

  • @matthewgilmore4307
    @matthewgilmore4307 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic!

  • @AlaskaJiuJitsu
    @AlaskaJiuJitsu 3 місяці тому +2

    Hope all translations are released immediately and I pray that the ancient texts from all institutions- from the Vatican to the Smithsonian be translated and released immediately as well. 🙏

  • @LUCKO2022
    @LUCKO2022 3 місяці тому +2

    How?
    I don't understand how it is readable without unwrapping it.
    How are they seeking the ink??

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 3 місяці тому +6

      While not really explained in this video I'm assuming it's similar to an MRI scan. The ink would have a different chemical composition to the papyrus, or perhaps just a higher density, and with a high resolution scan they would be able to separate each layer to digitally unroll it. I would be interested to see a more detailed explanation of the scanning process though.

    • @lindaj5492
      @lindaj5492 3 місяці тому +1

      @WaterShowsProd Diamond Light Source has lots of info on its website about how it works.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 3 місяці тому

      Thank you. @@lindaj5492

  • @ericsonhazeltine5064
    @ericsonhazeltine5064 3 місяці тому +1

    So tell us what was written.

  • @NoahSpurrier
    @NoahSpurrier 3 місяці тому

    Amazing

  • @reneharkamp4309
    @reneharkamp4309 3 місяці тому

    Amsterdam,
    Deeply impressed 😊

  • @ChrisCoombes
    @ChrisCoombes 3 місяці тому

    I know only 3 minutes but I was hoping for a bit more explanation of the steps involved.

  • @d1agram4
    @d1agram4 3 місяці тому +1

    Nothing on what the scrolls said?

    • @philippedurbecq2419
      @philippedurbecq2419 3 місяці тому

      Les premiers passages d’un texte lisible révèlent des réflexions inédites d’un philosophe grec sur l’effet de la musique sur celui qui l’écoute, des plaisirs du goût et de la vue.

  • @dreamerworld1495
    @dreamerworld1495 3 місяці тому +1

    what they say? I do not read greek. can they be gentle with those who do not speak or recognize the language and at least translate a bit?

  • @elcasho
    @elcasho 3 місяці тому +2

    Smart people

  • @IbnBahtuta
    @IbnBahtuta 3 місяці тому

    Let's hope it isn't full of ways to read the entrails of goats.

  • @kevinbyrne4538
    @kevinbyrne4538 3 місяці тому +3

    The findings were terribly disappointing:
    Butcher: 1 1/2 libra sausage
    Baker: 2 loaves bread
    1/2 libra cheese ...

  • @seanrowshandel1680
    @seanrowshandel1680 3 місяці тому +1

    No need for a video about this. It's obvious. Everyone knows what you did [already] Just Because you wrote the headline in adherence to standard protocol.

  • @AlexTRat
    @AlexTRat 3 місяці тому +1

    A brilliant testimony to science, imaging software and collaborative computing. But what a poorly made and disjointed short video - surely you can do better than this?

  • @georgiosgusos9919
    @georgiosgusos9919 3 місяці тому

    ...the writting is greek...and the city s name was heraklia...!!

  • @Am-ih5nf
    @Am-ih5nf 3 місяці тому

    Give us the full translated text or its bologna clickbait

  • @JukeBoxDestroyer
    @JukeBoxDestroyer 2 місяці тому

    thank you, white people

  • @midlifemotox
    @midlifemotox 2 місяці тому

    Deciphered into the same old meaningless nonsense as the Bible. If not,, why aren't we hearing about the context.?? Amazing technology.. However.