Jennifer and James Crumbley read statements before sentencing verdict given: Full video

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  • Опубліковано 8 кві 2024
  • A judge sentenced both James and Jennifer Crumbley to 10-15 years in prison for their roles in the 2021 Oxford High School mass shooting committed by their son, who murdered four students, injured seven other people and terrorized a community using a gun that he had long begged for.

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  • @davidgori4500
    @davidgori4500 3 місяці тому +54

    The only person in the room dumber than Mrs. Crumbley is Mrs. Crumbley's lawyer.

  • @tiffanyoneill8718
    @tiffanyoneill8718 3 місяці тому +107

    Never took her son to a therapist in all his years.

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 3 місяці тому +1

      Depraved (heart) Indifference is best understood as an utter disregard. for the value of human life- a willingness to act not because one intends harm, but because one simply doesn't care whether grievous harm results or not!

    • @LadyDazzleDance
      @LadyDazzleDance 3 місяці тому +4

      Didn't you listen to her statement? She didn't think he son was having any trouble. She didn't know he was having issues at school. Hello......anyone in there!

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong 3 місяці тому +6

      @@LadyDazzleDance They chose not to cooperate with the school when they wanted him removed from class. Heellllloooo why are they giving their school aged child a gun??? I grew up in a house with guns, everything was always locked or put somewhere we didn't have access to unless supervised. They fucked up and now gonna pay the price as they deserve.

    • @paulschab8152
      @paulschab8152 3 місяці тому

      Do gangbangers go to therapy? This whole case is a liberal parade...

  • @cmn1035
    @cmn1035 3 місяці тому +79

    She still has zero accountability in her mind wow

  • @catlink8998
    @catlink8998 3 місяці тому +228

    The attorney of Jennifer Crumbley is a detriment to her client. Her behavior, delivery, and arguments simply emphasize self-entitlement and blame-shifting. This is one case where the client would have done better representing themself.

    • @lovepet4565
      @lovepet4565 3 місяці тому +14

      She looks like an evil Chatty Cathy doll
      ( one I had growing up in 60s)

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@lovepet4565 OMG, me too! It terrified me into nightmares for 45 years! Glad I wasn't the only one.

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 3 місяці тому +3

      And looking for a new roommate/ honey

    • @denisesorenson4000
      @denisesorenson4000 3 місяці тому +5

      So did Jennifer get her 10 to 15 years at her Lawyers Guest house like she wanted???

    • @lovepet4565
      @lovepet4565 3 місяці тому +3

      @@denisesorenson4000 nope

  • @DaturaHellebore
    @DaturaHellebore 3 місяці тому +82

    His mother...still NO accountability! He was telling you he was hearing voices and having hallucinations! At a minimum they should have taken him to professionals so THEY could confirm or not, that his statements were fake. His parents just choosing to decide that for him, was COMPLETELY irresponsible!

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 3 місяці тому +4

      💯

    • @kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934
      @kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 3 місяці тому +6

      And buying him a gun after she was aware of his state of mind, hearing voices and having hallucinations

    • @kerstieamiya4880
      @kerstieamiya4880 3 місяці тому +2

      @@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934that right there is INSANE to me like why in tf would someone ever do that

    • @nuorigin
      @nuorigin 2 місяці тому

      They decided to give him a gun

  • @happybergner9832
    @happybergner9832 3 місяці тому +53

    She needs to take responsibility for the part SHE played in these murders.

  • @Obsidian_Iris_
    @Obsidian_Iris_ 3 місяці тому +143

    Her entire statement can be summarized as “It’s anyone’s fault but ours, but especially not mine.” All of this time, after everything that has happened, and she didn’t learned a thing.

    • @mepulley7913
      @mepulley7913 3 місяці тому +12

      You said it perfectly.

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 3 місяці тому +6

      Depraved (heart) Indifference is best understood as an utter disregard. for the value of human life- a willingness to act not because one intends harm, but because one simply doesn't care whether grievous harm results or not!

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 3 місяці тому +4

      Both tried to blame the school! Father wanted, parole with time served! Ankle monitor!

    • @traceyarnaud8433
      @traceyarnaud8433 3 місяці тому +9

      @@j.dunlop8295 These two are reprehensible

    • @gailmarie65
      @gailmarie65 2 місяці тому +1

      Unless they stop all the denial of everything they did wrong and how they failed their son they will have a very tough time in prison. I’m not holding my breath that they will as they’re FAR from it

  • @Trobtwillis
    @Trobtwillis 3 місяці тому +52

    14:32
    Good on Judge for calling b.s. on defense rhetoric.

  • @usersmoop
    @usersmoop 3 місяці тому +62

    How did her lawyer approve this pathetic statement ?

    • @kc-lp6wg
      @kc-lp6wg 3 місяці тому +16

      Her lawyer approved of the statement because she is as clueless as her client.

    • @LeslieLyn86
      @LeslieLyn86 3 місяці тому +2

      She probably wrote it lol

  • @jackiecarson859
    @jackiecarson859 3 місяці тому +94

    Quick reminder - these 'parents', as soon as their kid was arrested, went on the lam. They ran away. Basically, *they ditched their own son.* They booked it to Detroit, possibly on their way to Windsor, Ontario, Canada. The Detroit police department received a tip from a business owner, and arrested them. *There was no indication that the Crumbleys had planned to surrender.*

    • @tmholtry
      @tmholtry 3 місяці тому +18

      They also cleaned out their son's bank account that day, more than $3,000.

    • @sandramichaud8033
      @sandramichaud8033 3 місяці тому +8

      Thanks for that reminder. Needs more emphasis when this is shown.

    • @sandramichaud8033
      @sandramichaud8033 3 місяці тому +8

      @@tmholtryglad they were convicted. They deserve every day. I’m hoping prison justice will take hold

    • @robynpayne9448
      @robynpayne9448 3 місяці тому +1

      I feel as though the sentencing doesn't take this into account.

  • @ericahope3007
    @ericahope3007 3 місяці тому +154

    Jennifer has no remorse and her lawyer is beyond disrespectful and has no empathy for these families, I can’t continue to listen to her.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne 3 місяці тому +1

      Then don’t listen to her. 🤣 🙄

    • @kathleenclement1406
      @kathleenclement1406 3 місяці тому +2

      I thought her letter was the correct way a Mother would feel...it changed half way through...from good letter to not so good ..she should have stopped while she was a head

    • @kellybrus8663
      @kellybrus8663 3 місяці тому +10

      It was absolutely nauseating. Empty words. She's not the least bit sorry. The husband was just as bad

    • @ericahope3007
      @ericahope3007 3 місяці тому +6

      @@Teresa-Anne I turned her off!

    • @traceyarnaud8433
      @traceyarnaud8433 3 місяці тому +7

      @@Teresa-Anne Why so rude? This isn’t amusing

  • @nancylux9593
    @nancylux9593 3 місяці тому +101

    She has gained wisdom of power to forgive ..the prosecution ?????? You've got to be kidding me. She really should not have gone there. Lost all credibility

    • @KetoBlackBarbie
      @KetoBlackBarbie 3 місяці тому

      That’s why she sitting in the seat that she’s in is because of her failure of self-awareness

    • @Ezinma88
      @Ezinma88 3 місяці тому +3

      You still thought she had credibility?

    • @---C_B---
      @---C_B--- 3 місяці тому

      I nearly spat my tea out 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 3 місяці тому +77

    She’s unique!!!! She can shoot it, carry it and store it in the trunk but she CANNOT lock it. The 10 seconds is tooooo HARD.

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 3 місяці тому

      It’s not required by law to lock up guns at that time. They change the law now.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +6

      Makes me wonder if the guy she was having the affair with is secretly relieved she got sentenced for so long.
      It gives him time to change his name and move across the country.

    • @reneetuer3525
      @reneetuer3525 3 місяці тому +5

      I'm sure his wife is happy she's gone.

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong 3 місяці тому

      @@Charmander009 its not require by law that you take your kid to the dentist or teach them to tie their shoes, but somehow parents manage to figure that out. Locking up guns and keeping them away from kids while unsupervised is Gun Safety 101. No excuse for these scumbags

    • @SusieQ1971
      @SusieQ1971 3 місяці тому

      😂😅

  • @ABab-jf2jb
    @ABab-jf2jb 3 місяці тому +53

    The father asked for time served! I am shocked to hear such nonsense.

    • @jborden18
      @jborden18 3 місяці тому +8

      Mom too!! Saying she's "scared for her life" at the thought of going to prison

    • @LeslieLyn86
      @LeslieLyn86 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jborden18but but she would serve it in Shannon’s guest house 😂😅

    • @jborden18
      @jborden18 3 місяці тому +3

      @@LeslieLyn86 I wish I had a house big enough to tell a friend, hey girl, just stay in my guest house. 😂😂😅🤣

  • @shelleystrong8673
    @shelleystrong8673 3 місяці тому +129

    Master class in how to NOT take responsibility for one’s actions even while shuffling your way to prison. She will never get it.

    • @victorvelazquez1190
      @victorvelazquez1190 3 місяці тому +1

      😅😅😅lol..started out good..then pause and asked judge n court for shovel to bury himself.

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 3 місяці тому

      So true

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 3 місяці тому +5

      Bottom line is Ethan took the unlocked gun to school on Nov. 30th and even after school invited parents on the 30th, they stayed 15 minutes. Saw a picture of Ethan holding a gun and shooting up kids in school.
      She didn't want to take Ethan home because she wanted to see her bf at 4pm

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 3 місяці тому

      If only the stupid ass hadn't bought his son a gun.
      As a parent, if I took my son to counseling when he asked multiple times, things would be different .
      He hasn't been able to speak with his family just like the clients.

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 3 місяці тому +3

      What exactly is the truth James Crumbly believes hasn't been brought out to court. I guess when you are a negligent parent, crying conspiracy is your only hope.

  • @emilykay115
    @emilykay115 3 місяці тому +105

    The fact the school notified them of the concerning behavior as well as parents having access to all grades shows she's still lying to refuse accountability for her ooor parenting.

    • @mepulley7913
      @mepulley7913 3 місяці тому +16

      A person who has true integrity and dignity would apologize and say she was wrong. This woman, No such thing.

    • @acespace7255
      @acespace7255 3 місяці тому +4

      Nice acceptance speech. .....of your prison sentence

  • @deborahandradebajo7395
    @deborahandradebajo7395 3 місяці тому +119

    Jennifer never addressed why she didn't tell the school that Ethan was given a gun, that fact could have saved lives that day.

    • @kahledblackman318
      @kahledblackman318 3 місяці тому +6

      That would take her bring somewhat accountable for her actions. She does not process that ability.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne 3 місяці тому

      And neither did James! So what’s your point. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @jackiejohnson7158
      @jackiejohnson7158 3 місяці тому +2

      I really wish they would have addressed that. If they had done only that, this might not have ever occurred.

    • @user-cb6re8yd8e
      @user-cb6re8yd8e 3 місяці тому +2

      No ones gonna admit fault bc I’m pretty sure they’re both gonna appeal their sentences

    • @Howdygirl11
      @Howdygirl11 3 місяці тому +5

      Neither parent mentioned their little chucky owned a gun because they were both very arrogant, self indulged, and didn't care!

  • @marymargaretaguilar3578
    @marymargaretaguilar3578 3 місяці тому +29

    Shut up Shannon!!! Worst lawyer EVER! She makes me need a drink!!! I love the way the judge is basically saying "shut up" in more polite words

  • @ABab-jf2jb
    @ABab-jf2jb 3 місяці тому +82

    The trials are over, and the jury found them both guilty. Why did the lawyer keep babbling! Shut up and go, please.

    • @Maui_Gyrl_
      @Maui_Gyrl_ 3 місяці тому +1

      This is so wrong!! The parents did nothing wrong! They should not be going to jail bc the kid made a bad decision.

    • @chriswiland
      @chriswiland 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Maui_Gyrl_ they bought him a gun and did not secure it. They are 1000% at fault for all those people dying. Their actions are what caused this to happen. If that was one of your kids that got killed. I’m sure you might see a differently.😳

    • @369blueneptune
      @369blueneptune 3 місяці тому

      She keeps blathering because she finds it absolutely unacceptable that she lost the case. She behaves like a person with a severe case of N.P.D. Sadly, her client's best interest is secondary to the needs of her fragile ego.

    • @369blueneptune
      @369blueneptune 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Maui_Gyrl_ You're so far off base and lost in some really dubious emotional thinking which is how you arrived at your incorrect conclusion.

    • @Maui_Gyrl_
      @Maui_Gyrl_ 3 місяці тому

      @@chriswiland We had guns all over my dads house. I grew up in the Midwest, and we went shooting animals for sport it food. A lot of ppl in the Midwest or south does it. I just don't blame the parents bc they did nothing wrong. T

  • @tigeygirl
    @tigeygirl 3 місяці тому +72

    Still not taking responsibility. Disgusting.

    • @bmorecareful3723
      @bmorecareful3723 3 місяці тому +2

      Just imagine if we started to charging parents in the inner city with crimes their kids commit, everyone would be crying racism

  • @jokingrudolf76
    @jokingrudolf76 3 місяці тому +55

    Neither one of the parents are truly remorseful nor do they take any responsibility for how they enabled their son while ignoring the warning signs--they both blame others for what happened. It's sickening.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +10

      I thought the husband was going to superman over the bench and attack the judge. I see where Ethan got a lot of his instability from.

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 3 місяці тому +4

      Nope and she never got the care that her son was begging for.

    • @alisongaber190
      @alisongaber190 3 місяці тому +2

      He appears genuinely remorseful and somewhat accountable.
      She is disgusting in her blaming others, the school to the prosecution.
      She's a sad excuse for a parent and a human..her words speak volumes as to how her son became such a f.u. young man.
      Her gall and lack of insight when she says this could happen to any family left me incensed.

    • @jokingrudolf76
      @jokingrudolf76 3 місяці тому

      You and I must not have watched the same coverage. He kept saying "the truth will come out." He asked for time served and probation and they are both appealing their sentences. Neither of them admit any wrongdoing. @@alisongaber190

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 3 місяці тому +2

      @@alisongaber190 Parent(s) both are responsible

  • @JanisAllen-vx6fl
    @JanisAllen-vx6fl 3 місяці тому +38

    I wish Jennifer’s atty would stop talking. She is trying to start this trial all over again.

  • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
    @user-mo6tz6oh9i 3 місяці тому +44

    They both act like they’re SO INNOCENT!!
    Please!

  • @aliasenigma3265
    @aliasenigma3265 3 місяці тому +36

    Imagine she doesn't see she was at fault for anything, she is blaming the school as if the school bought the gun or as if the school was responsible for safe guarding the school, as if the kids that got kill was just an unfortunate coincidence and nothing more, that woman is sick, both of them are monsters

    • @LeslieLyn86
      @LeslieLyn86 3 місяці тому +1

      Monsters? I don’t agreee with their statements however that school is 1,000%’ to blame as well.

  • @jg0346
    @jg0346 3 місяці тому +106

    Find it hard to understand why the lawyer is allowed to try to re-argue the case after the client has been convicted by a jury. Neither the lawyer nor Mrs. Crumbley are willing to accept facts proven in court.

    • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
      @user-mo6tz6oh9i 3 місяці тому +11

      Yes! What an unprofessional lawyer!

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly

    • @langlang9326
      @langlang9326 3 місяці тому +3

      For the appeals. The defense always does this.

    • @denisesorenson4000
      @denisesorenson4000 3 місяці тому +3

      I think this lawyer has a crush on the Mrs.......

    • @janetdurkee8527
      @janetdurkee8527 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed- she just bought her client more time in prison. What a dope!!

  • @apsaraa8209
    @apsaraa8209 3 місяці тому +85

    SHE KNEW he was SICK and she just ignored him for her own selfish self.

    • @nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718
      @nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 3 місяці тому +1

      How do you know?

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718maybe you should have watched the trial.

    • @user-rc3pk4xy6r
      @user-rc3pk4xy6r 3 місяці тому +1

      She did not know he was sick. Even the professionals at the school thought he was safe to stay at school and they had information they never relayed to the parents.

    • @julieburton7253
      @julieburton7253 3 місяці тому +2

      @@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 he asked for help!

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong 3 місяці тому

      @@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 uuuh her own child ASKED FOR HELP!!!!! goddamn people quit making comments if you didn't follow the trial

  • @robinflood7334
    @robinflood7334 3 місяці тому +102

    She still has no remorse. She’s reading that like a programmed machine. Still doesn’t take responsibility for her part and tries shifting the blame o the school. Give her the max!!!!!!!

    • @valeriefionda979
      @valeriefionda979 3 місяці тому +7

      Totally 💯 agree with you 😮😮😮

    • @DUB-Track
      @DUB-Track 3 місяці тому +1

      Oh really... So your telling me that you would agree that gang member's parents should be responsible for their children do? Get real, your position crumbles...

    • @andrewjames8980
      @andrewjames8980 3 місяці тому

      When people are falsely accused of crimes and then made to look like the worst person on earth for 2.5 years would you expect them to be grateful?

    • @williammoore772
      @williammoore772 3 місяці тому

      When you know your kid is an inexperienced driver and wipes out a family, I hope you turn yourself in for the Max.

    • @DUB-Track
      @DUB-Track 3 місяці тому

      Are you serious? Lets get a real comparison here...

  • @LuvMyTators
    @LuvMyTators 3 місяці тому +72

    Jennifer Crumbley’s attorney appears to be unprepared; what’s wrong with this woman?

    • @selfesteem3447
      @selfesteem3447 3 місяці тому

      Lol

    • @ang_ro
      @ang_ro 3 місяці тому +8

      This is how she was the whole trial. 🫠

    • @JoyceJohansen
      @JoyceJohansen 3 місяці тому +1

      Agree

    • @tinaschultz1976
      @tinaschultz1976 3 місяці тому +1

      She always has a temper tantrum I believe the father is remorseful

    • @esdee878
      @esdee878 2 місяці тому

      She😮was Larry Nassar's attorney too.

  • @stutzbearcat5624
    @stutzbearcat5624 3 місяці тому +67

    Lawyer speaks - lawyer makes IT WORSE.

  • @user-de3wg7ln8y
    @user-de3wg7ln8y 3 місяці тому +28

    Loves her family so much...she blames the husband and son... now thats a mothers love right there

  • @ankie6420
    @ankie6420 3 місяці тому +73

    Still Blaming others.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne 3 місяці тому

      Ummmm. Respectfully, THE SCHOOL FK’D UP!!!! BIG TIME!! The one guy (school employee), carried Ethan’s HEAVY (His words), backpack with the damn GUN IN IT, to the office and eventually gave it back to Ethan! THEY SAID ETHAN COULD STAY AT SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +29

    Judge already knows what she is going to do!! Shut up. Blame someone else?????

  • @mzmartin8115
    @mzmartin8115 3 місяці тому +28

    Lawyer for Mrs Crumbly is trying to retry the case at sentencing...dit down counselor your making it worse for your client damn. 😅

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 3 місяці тому +13

    This is probably the last time the Crumbleys will see each other for a long time.

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +60

    Shut up Shannon...you are NOT helping!!

    • @emilykay115
      @emilykay115 3 місяці тому +13

      She never does. She's a terrible lawyer.

    • @user-cb6re8yd8e
      @user-cb6re8yd8e 3 місяці тому

      She’s probably a divorce attorney not a criminal one 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @RocknRolla2023
    @RocknRolla2023 3 місяці тому +27

    Still blaming everyone but themselves. Sit in there and think about it, y’all have plenty of time.

  • @kimthreadgold2755
    @kimthreadgold2755 3 місяці тому +17

    This lawyer is clueless. Her client is a monster. No raising a school shooter couldn't happen to every parent.
    Less discuss how Jennifer met her lover in the afternoon of day her son shot up the school.

  • @timothyhandy5379
    @timothyhandy5379 3 місяці тому +16

    First off it should have been 10 to 15 per life lost. And 5 to 7 for those injured. These people took ZERO accountability for anything ignoring all the warning signs their kid obviously showed. Then when they had an opprotunity to do something right they ran and hid in a warehouse in Detroit. Handed their kid a gun rather then get involved in their sons life and his problems. Neither of the 3 should see the light of day

  • @sherrienale9974
    @sherrienale9974 3 місяці тому +112

    The lawyer for Jennifer is either untrained or not very good..Her remarks were not appropriate at all,nor correct...I hope someone that is actually falsely accused does not choose her to defend them...very unprofessional...

    • @robinflood7334
      @robinflood7334 3 місяці тому +21

      That lawyer is aweful

    • @nina2hansen
      @nina2hansen 3 місяці тому +1

      @@robinflood7334 I promise you, I'm not making excuses however she is an overworked & underpaid public defender who was trapped into taking this horrible case.

    • @jmlewis435
      @jmlewis435 3 місяці тому +32

      ​@@nina2hansenShe is a private attorney, NOT a public defender!

    • @hithere8140
      @hithere8140 3 місяці тому +9

      Just like to point out jennifer has a very strong, dont tell me what to do, ill do what i want personality. Perhaps the lawyers advice was just not taken.

    • @cristineconnell7803
      @cristineconnell7803 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@nina2hansenThey hired her before they were even charged! They had no intentions of paying for an attorney for their minor son!

  • @paulahenderson9878
    @paulahenderson9878 3 місяці тому +11

    Jennifer's statement is worth less than 0%

  • @LeeOliver-jq4cr
    @LeeOliver-jq4cr 3 місяці тому +25

    She still doesn't get it. He came across Much more sympathetic

    • @emcooper3031
      @emcooper3031 3 місяці тому +2

      I didn't feel that way after listening to him. He doubled down on saying there were no warning signs, Ethan had no access to the gun, victims' parents don't know the truth.

    • @Carrjacked
      @Carrjacked 3 місяці тому

      I agree. James absolutely is so wrecked emotionally from all of this. Jennifer not so much.

  • @sherreywurz731
    @sherreywurz731 3 місяці тому +35

    Still not taking accountability for anything ....sad very sad.theses parents were not around for there son...to busy with themselves and there own lives.parenting is sooooooo hard. But your son suffered immensely and due to his actions looked how many people are suffering. And you can deny till your blue in the face that you didn't know what was going on with your son .....

  • @Monty-Remick
    @Monty-Remick 3 місяці тому +24

    The fact that they are arguing that they were "hamstrung" and that evidence wasn't allowed in just shows that they truly do not believe what they are saying. They have no remorse for the families and victims, they only care about themselves. Trying to blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility is disgusting! They should put themselves in the victim's shoes and really try hard and think of what justice would look like for them... They are absolutely culpable in this horrible and tragic situation, they bought the gun and let Ethan have full access to that gun, PERIOD. Their lives will go on with their son alive and at some point down the road will be able to communicate with him, they unfortunately will never get that opportunity. When reading a statement to address the victims and the court nobody wants to hear the "but!" I'm sorry, I feel terrible, but... To ask for time served and probation "as long as you deem necessary" takes balls and is absolutely INSANE!!! SMFH 🤦‍♂️💯

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 3 місяці тому

      Law at the time says not required to lock up gun

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Charmander009 There's the letter of the law and there's the spirit of the law. Common sense says you don't buy a gun/leave it unsecured for your lonely 15 year old son who told you he saw/heard demons. He self medicated by drinking, they found multiple empty bottles in his room for Pete's sake. They didn't tell the school they bought him a gun. As a parent, you are supposed to know your child. Honestly, I think they bought him the gun so that he would unalive himself so that they could go on living their selfish lives. But he ended up shooting up the school, they panicked and knew THEY were in trouble.

    • @user-re3gh9cw5r
      @user-re3gh9cw5r 3 місяці тому +1

      This lawyer sucks ( Jennifer’s lawyer) I’m embarrassed for her . Hard to watch . Yes, this could have been any parent in her shoes BUT if it were me ( and I have an emotionally disturbed son) all I would say is “ I’m sorry and I accept my punishment “

  • @lisadunn1138
    @lisadunn1138 3 місяці тому +16

    Me, me, me!! Wow! How to pretend this isn't your fault! And take absolutely no accountability. Shows exactly why their son did it.

  • @codyor4483
    @codyor4483 3 місяці тому +101

    I"m trying to understand how one gets past the fact that not being an attentive parent, substituting a gun, with violent undertones, instead of jumping into your childs life with both feet, is a travesty. You let down the Parents of the Children Murdered, The parents of the other school children, and most of all Your Son, who was damaged beyond recognition because you were too busy, with other things. How many more parents like you, at your age, are out there, with kids who will set their sights on Murdering other children simply because they are happy, and your kid is not.

    • @user-et5ih2uh6f
      @user-et5ih2uh6f 3 місяці тому

      With these parents being convicted, it opens a door for all parents to be convicted if their child does something wrong.
      If you give your child a car and know that they have consumed alcohol in the past. You can now be convicted if they kill someone in white driving drunk.
      If your child has anger issues and kills someone because you didn't have them under a doctor's care or put in a nut house, you can be convicted.
      This ruling has opened a door that can't be closed.
      American parents are screwed forever
      This is what the liberal American society wanted.

    • @hulkimania
      @hulkimania 3 місяці тому +10

      Ah the perfect parents... We've been looking for you.

    • @langlang9326
      @langlang9326 3 місяці тому +2

      it's not any certain age, it parents of all ages.

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong 3 місяці тому +6

      @@hulkimania not about being a perfect parent. shit, my parents were abusive alcoholics but I was still never allowed access to my father's guns unsupervised. Gun Safety 101...these parents deserve to be held responsible.

  • @sunshinegal4294
    @sunshinegal4294 3 місяці тому +9

    These parents are in COMPLETE DENIAL! Jennifer saying her son seemed so normal. NOT! He needed help! She wasn’t there for him. They were both totally irresponsible and for Jennifer to say she’s an average, good parent, she must live on a different planet!!!!

  • @ambarely-here
    @ambarely-here 3 місяці тому +3

    i have been waiting rather impatiently for someone to call out jennifer’s defense attorney. i am living for it

  • @sallyshafer436
    @sallyshafer436 3 місяці тому +15

    And still, she does not get it. She was a normal parent and it could have happened to any of us? No, girl. I would never have left a child begging not to be alone alone to go play with horses. Most good parents wouldn’t. Full sentence deserved, even though she’s still clueless.

  • @kc-lp6wg
    @kc-lp6wg 3 місяці тому +16

    When Jennifer had to back up around 8:10 because she forgot to read the "most important part" and it's that she should be forgiven. I'm glad that she's going to have at least a decade to re think her decisions.
    It galls me to think that this is where she's at in terms of taking responsibility after 3 years behind bars.

  • @ninasage7735
    @ninasage7735 3 місяці тому +13

    I’m so glad the judge is correcting Shannon

  • @user-ej7tz3cn1m
    @user-ej7tz3cn1m 3 місяці тому +12

    No matter what they knew or didn't know, the gun was not secured. It is time that all gun owners understand that they can be held responsible if their unsecured gun is taken and misused. It is a new day.

  • @Agathanagatha
    @Agathanagatha 3 місяці тому +16

    She’s blatantly been told to say she would definitely do things differently.when she was asked during her trial if she would do anything different and she said no,that was what disgusted everyone.her poor son was crying out for help and they totally neglected him even down to taking him to a dentist,he had a mouthful of cavities.we will never know if they had got him the help he was crying out for would those innocent kids still be here
    She’s still not taking responsibility she deserves to be in prison and so does that simpering sorry excuse of a father

    • @Agathanagatha
      @Agathanagatha 3 місяці тому

      @christyklosshe apparently had 13 cavities

    • @Agathanagatha
      @Agathanagatha 3 місяці тому

      @christykloss yep and she really doesn’t care,she’s disgusting

  • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
    @smwoutdoorfishingadventures 3 місяці тому +34

    I started to watch both parents impact statements. It wasn't about the lost innocent souls and the remaining victims. These lawyers still never offered one bit of empathy to the family's. She pats Crumbley on the back of the head. I watched the victims impact statement in the Nasser case. Shannon Smith should be bared from trying law

    • @andreabrown8569
      @andreabrown8569 3 місяці тому +1

      Defense attorneys cannot give condolences. It is a rule in some states. I am not allowed to acknowledged the victims until after sentencing.

    • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
      @smwoutdoorfishingadventures 3 місяці тому +1

      @@andreabrown8569 Attorney or not this is a different case where children lives were taken. Look at the Nasser trial. That is what the judge said the lack or remorse from all parties

    • @localnemesis94
      @localnemesis94 3 місяці тому

      Was Shannon smith involved in the nasser case as well?

    • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
      @smwoutdoorfishingadventures 3 місяці тому

      Yes is was a down right shame how she treated those young ladies. never showed one bit on empathy or compassion against them. She want clients that have been charged with sexual abuse. She must think its ok for these monsters to sexually abuse someone

    • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
      @katherinegilbert-espada3715 3 місяці тому

      Shannon Smith is a disgusting human being. She is the worst lawyer ever.

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 3 місяці тому +28

    Denial. Intent is not required for GROSS negligence. No foresight required to follow instructions and lock gun with lock provided. 10 seconds. They knew immediately he was the shooter. Zero acknowledgement of any role or responsibility. Hope she serves 15. Blame everyone else. The victims are also not the persons they were. Narcissism meets its end.

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 3 місяці тому

      You’re not required to lock up your gun according to the law at that time

    • @birdly3850
      @birdly3850 3 місяці тому +3

      I’ve thought that so many times. They immediately knew he was the shooter. They knew.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Charmander009 A lot of things are not required but that's where common sense comes into play. Unfortunately, there's not much of that around lately.

    • @jackiejohnson7158
      @jackiejohnson7158 3 місяці тому +1

      If they just would have told the school their kid had access to a gun this could have turned out completely differently.

    • @carolynupchurch9428
      @carolynupchurch9428 3 місяці тому

      I wonder if the kids parents in the River Raft stabbings trial will be held accountable for their actions. That poor man was bullied.

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +24

    Better apologize you're going to prison for along time.

  • @UwU-eb3hq
    @UwU-eb3hq 3 місяці тому +18

    i still think this could have been planned - like to have such an incompetent lawyer so she can appeal on grounds of ineffective council

    • @thetruepatriot7733
      @thetruepatriot7733 3 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂😂....nahhh. this attorney just sucks.

  • @KetoBlackBarbie
    @KetoBlackBarbie 3 місяці тому +14

    I’m sorry I thought this was sentencing not retrying the case

  • @kevinbarry3548
    @kevinbarry3548 3 місяці тому +11

    He's a coward and refusing responsibility to the bitter end--inflicting trauma on all the families again. He's in for a wake up call once he's released from prison. He won't be able to live in peace under the radar. We will not forget.

  • @virginiamccall6927
    @virginiamccall6927 3 місяці тому +11

    I would have liked to have seen more concern for the damage inflicted on her son at the age of 15 years s old when he was asking her for mental help and being ignored. Both of these parents appear to care more about themselves than their son so sad.

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 3 місяці тому +13

    James, what about you threatening the prosecution? It’s hard to believe whatever you say.

  • @Timkast
    @Timkast 3 місяці тому +22

    The Crumbley’s are the worst of us. Put them UNDER the jail.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne 3 місяці тому

      Yea, not gonna happen. They’ll walk in just over 7 years. Are you saying unalive them? Wow! 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @cristineconnell7803
    @cristineconnell7803 3 місяці тому +14

    Seems Jennifer's attorney is trying to retry the case!

  • @casreich8577
    @casreich8577 3 місяці тому +8

    Wow. Not a single shred of accountability

  • @sallyshafer436
    @sallyshafer436 3 місяці тому +7

    Whiny defense attorneys who failed at their job don’t do their clients any favors.

  • @jborden18
    @jborden18 3 місяці тому +11

    The mom's eyes had this emptiness about them and the erie flatness of her voice, i cant put my finger on it, but there's something way off about this chick

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +20

    Blame game!!!

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 3 місяці тому +8

    I want to hear her admit her fault in the tragedy. She is still saying she had no clue about her son.

  • @pearlrawson8636
    @pearlrawson8636 3 місяці тому +11

    The police got it right! The District Attorney got it right! The Jury got it right! The Judge got it right!
    Tate Myre, 16; Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; and Justin Shilling, 17. young lives mattered….plus the other seven people injured matters! Then add the their surviving family members, community and student body of Oxford…. you made countless victims!
    All because you ignored your son, period!
    First responders ran toward these precious people while you drained bank accounts and ran from your son and the law!!
    I will continue to pray for these families and hope to God they can find some level of peace and healing.

  • @BillyBoy198
    @BillyBoy198 3 місяці тому +22

    Two text book examples of why we should implement laws that force people to take courses and pass a parenting exam before having children. This is what happens when unfit people have kids... That young man never stood a chance. Sad.

  • @myrnawashington9057
    @myrnawashington9057 3 місяці тому +6

    This wonderful woman chose to buy and board horses instead of buying insurance for Ethan so he could have mental health help. She is really playing the victim.

  • @debbielighthall9671
    @debbielighthall9671 3 місяці тому +7

    Damn
    This lawyer is despicable

  • @beverlytorrado266
    @beverlytorrado266 3 місяці тому +10

    The lawer keeps trying to retry the whole case.

  • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
    @user-mo6tz6oh9i 3 місяці тому +11

    The parents and the school bear a lot of responsibility for this travesty. I don’t really believe this man. The woman’s statement just blames the school. I can’t believe her lawyer let her say some of the crap she said about hating the prosecutor.SMH! They should have gotten more time!!!

    • @ksc743
      @ksc743 3 місяці тому +2

      The husband threatened the prosecutor not her. But I do believe neither of them cared much for their child. She even told the owner of the riding school where she kept her horses that her son is "weird".

  • @Ricaaa13
    @Ricaaa13 3 місяці тому +7

    Her lawyer ‘s hand motions are almost as distracting as her arguments!

  • @starsrgood
    @starsrgood 3 місяці тому +7

    The fact that Jennifer could not stand to read her statement tells me that her message is not from deep within her soul. She might as well have been reading a novel. James statement was stronger and more heartfelt. James definitely has a conscience, Jennifer does not.

    • @CreaticityIsLife
      @CreaticityIsLife 3 місяці тому

      I agree James at least attempted to show some empathy, but he ended up sounding angry and accusatory. The information he is claiming was withheld was them trying to force Ethan to testify in THEIR defense, along with Ethan's psychologists. He is STILL throwing Ethan under the bus.

  • @ninasage7735
    @ninasage7735 3 місяці тому +9

    She is being ridiculous. It didn’t just happen overnight. You could tell by looking at her house.

  • @user-de3wg7ln8y
    @user-de3wg7ln8y 3 місяці тому +19

    I heard jennifer didnt wanna do her time in prison....she wanted to do her time at her lawyers home hahahah

    • @QueenOfTheNorth65
      @QueenOfTheNorth65 3 місяці тому +7

      Yes; she requested to be under house arrest at the home of the lawyer in the white suit.

    • @ITJustMeKG
      @ITJustMeKG 3 місяці тому +5

      lol

    • @carolgill6713
      @carolgill6713 3 місяці тому +2

      Have you ever heard anything that crazy, if Shannon Smith was my atty I'd be embarrassed.

  • @ozsomenurse
    @ozsomenurse 3 місяці тому +4

    Apparently she has not taken any responsibility at all.

  • @sarahhorne2828
    @sarahhorne2828 3 місяці тому +10

    She still is trying to blame other people 🙈🙈🙈🙈I just can’t with her!!! And, her attorney, nails on a chalk board😳😳😳😳. Her whining voice is over the top😏😏😏

  • @paulahenderson9878
    @paulahenderson9878 3 місяці тому +4

    Jennifer: Blaming Ethan and everybody else; and not taking any accountability. She deserves prison.

  • @Trobtwillis
    @Trobtwillis 3 місяці тому +10

    The parents want to blame the school. The school officials want to blame the parents. As an outside observer, I blame both parents & school.
    School is hiding behind some bogus state immunity. I hope that the lawyers for the grieving families find a way around that. Of course, I am not blaming every employee of the school or district. I am blaming the people who were in that meeting regarding the violent graffiti on the math paper.
    Between all those people in that room, I think that it is criminally negligent that neither Ethan's bookbag nor locker were searched before sending him back to class.

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 3 місяці тому +1

      This.

    • @CreaticityIsLife
      @CreaticityIsLife 3 місяці тому +2

      I think the difference is that the school took action - you can argue that they didn't do enough, or didn't do the right things, but they clearly cared about Ethan and tried to help. They called in the parents and wanted them to take him for therapy that day. The Crumbleys not only did nothing, they undermined the school's ability to put any plan into effect. They were openly and deliberately obstructive.

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 3 місяці тому +1

      @@CreaticityIsLife Telling the parents their child is suicidal without doing anything to rule out homicidal tendencies is gross negligence, especially when it comes from someone with the title counselor. It can lead the parents to believe they shouldn't do anything to cause him further distress ie. take him home against his will, and could easily make them think he isn't a risk to others (remember the school allowed him to stay--clearly they believed he was not a threat to others and the parents understood that as the message). The school had the responsibility to keep every child safe and failed to do so. They are just as guilty as the parents who didn't secure the gun.

  • @tracirogers9719
    @tracirogers9719 3 місяці тому +3

    You know what we really need here? Is for our government to be held accountable, jailed for what they have done to our society and the HELL our children have endured because of their greed and corruption!!

  • @UwU-eb3hq
    @UwU-eb3hq 3 місяці тому +8

    why the fk do you casre how the public perceive your client? a narc lawyer for a narc client...fkn joke

  • @et1016
    @et1016 3 місяці тому +6

    His heart pours out to everyone of them now that he knows he’s about to go to prison for the next 10 to 15 years. Did he find Jesus too? 😂

  • @grantkearney6354
    @grantkearney6354 3 місяці тому +7

    No, this couldn't just happen to anyone. There's no guns in my house.

    • @enidpierce9394
      @enidpierce9394 3 місяці тому +1

      No guns in our house either or in our vehicles.

    • @dodiebondwood
      @dodiebondwood 3 місяці тому +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking.

    • @jeanneriggan8774
      @jeanneriggan8774 3 місяці тому

      Do you guys understand people can get guns anywhere!

    • @grantkearney6354
      @grantkearney6354 3 місяці тому

      @@jeanneriggan8774 Not in New Zealand. It's super hard.

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 3 місяці тому +9

    Well she had time to rest up and the defense is still flailing.

  • @Mst-bh9ti
    @Mst-bh9ti 3 місяці тому +13

    I honestly wonder about the intellectual level of the patents. I don't mean psychotic. But it's pretty clear they have no clue vis-a-vis how to parent. Freedom and rights being what they are, there's no way to prohibit couples that are deemed to be horrible parenting material from having kids, and that's probably as it should be. Just devastating though to see the wreckage, that standard parenting interaction would have precluded😮

    • @carlathomas6257
      @carlathomas6257 3 місяці тому

      I'd say they were below average intellect. She has a flat affect when she speaks,which indicative if some mental issues,whether it's emotional or intellectual, you'd have to test for with a forensic psychologist. We live in a world of self-absorption. It's not limited to kids who haven't outgrown childish me-first behavior. Some can be so clueless as to what is going on right in front of them. Is it by choice? Is it a learned response to survive their own traumas? Regardless, our lives intertwine with others. If we'd only all learn to be kind to each other, and t a ach that by example, we might have less tragedies and less court cases like this.

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +8

    The son is getting the help he needs now! Someone is talking to him...
    Thats what he wanted ..was someone to hear he wanted help!
    Shannon is retrying the case

  • @ITJustMeKG
    @ITJustMeKG 3 місяці тому +3

    omg her lawyer is BRUTAL

  • @jeanlarocque6586
    @jeanlarocque6586 3 місяці тому +2

    He had insomnia! He asked you for help! He texted you advising you he was seeing demons! You remained at the stables! It’s perplexing that you chose to ignore his cries for help. Ethan was totally on his own!

  • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
    @katherinegilbert-espada3715 3 місяці тому +3

    She is the worst attorney I have ever seen. She hasn’t learned a thing since her last performance.

  • @vjdalady
    @vjdalady 3 місяці тому +4

    Jennifers “wanna be lawyer” gave a terrible statement.

  • @nb3longbridge
    @nb3longbridge 3 місяці тому +2

    Is she blaming the school? I am shocked. As a teacher, I am furious. Behaviour and emotions are parents responsibility! We help. But it is parents’ job!

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 3 місяці тому +20

    They cant speak to their kids ...ever!!

  • @pallavmishra
    @pallavmishra 3 місяці тому +9

    The Crumbleys sound totally apathetic.

  • @codyg727
    @codyg727 3 місяці тому +1

    That male prosecutor is that one kid in school that runs straight to the teacher and tells on everyone 100% guaranteed

    • @LeslieLyn86
      @LeslieLyn86 3 місяці тому

      OMG this is the best comment I’ve seen LOLLL 100% 😂😂😂

  • @enidpierce9394
    @enidpierce9394 3 місяці тому +6

    The words from Jennifer disgust me. Her rolling her eyes when Hanna was speaking. Pretty pathetic. Glad they both get 10 - 15 yrs. Those broken hearts of the families that will never again hug their kids. My heart hurts for them. I pray for healing for the families.

    • @sarahmelissa4253
      @sarahmelissa4253 3 місяці тому

      I thought she was calling the lawyer out for rolling her eyes.

    • @enidpierce9394
      @enidpierce9394 3 місяці тому

      Sorry.... Hanna's sister.

  • @jobinsmith4116
    @jobinsmith4116 3 місяці тому +6

    She found God wow , God would’ve told her to keep it simple, apologize for your lack of insight and vigilance instead of blaming everyone else but you and your husband after all you are the ones bought your son the gun

    • @lisaturtle1106
      @lisaturtle1106 3 місяці тому +1

      I thought the same !! Underage child having access to a firearm with mental problems is a situation for complete disaster!!!! Who is to blame? the parents for letting him have it, then leaving him at school instead of taking him for immediate help!

  • @zzz7815
    @zzz7815 3 місяці тому +4

    What ghastly people those parents are! They should have been given nonparole sentences

  • @margielepore2319
    @margielepore2319 3 місяці тому +4

    These lawyers not only typed the words but actually wrote them to make James and Jennifer look good. Nothing will do that.