What do you think about the insecurity of the RFID cards and codes? Will this be a potential problem for the Amico and customers if/when the console is released? Check out Jenovi's latest video concerning the Amico here: ua-cam.com/video/3HLRuriqKfw/v-deo.html
The insecurity is jaw-dropping bad. It's awful even if an amateur would have done that. That a company with actual engineers would let something like that out is mind-blowing.
Thanks for sharing my video and for the solid coverage. I did a proper follow-up video discussing the larger issues since that short video seemed to cause confusion. I think the follow-up shows clearly the deception (scam), and why it should be upsetting to everyone.
Great job on the followup. I'm sorry you feel you have been fooled by Intellivision's marketing, especially if you were genuinely excited for the product.
Actually, Tommy has the perfect security planned for these "physical products" and their ID codes: they'll never be on store shelves in the first place. Can't steal the codes if there's no place to buy em!
2022 is when someone will datamine and figure out that the Amico ownership doesn't actually run on NFTs, at which point Intellivision will put out a video claiming they were just trolling the haters, and NFT in this context always meant New Friend Tommy, because anyone who buys an Amico game is Tommy's new friend.
If they do that, then they have the fed coming after them. They received public grant money because they said they were using NFT technology for this console. I would not be surprised at all if Tommy ended up behind bars once this is all done. I just would hope that "Tommy" would keep calling in with updates about him and his new roommate.
@Coffee Man Not for me. Literally it's a completely new thing every week. They've rarely had to trudge over the same things twice. There's always a new low for the amico it would seem.
I’m glad you guys looked at Sean’s video. He’s a genuine dude and his content is always honest. When I saw him upload this video, I knew the games had to be on a whole other level if he was speaking about it on his channel. The whole state of this is abysmal.
Another thing that people don't mention. A lot of these folks promoting and shilling the Amico? They don't realize that they are violating the FTC Guidelines themselves. The FTC states on their site "Disclose when you have any financial or personal or family relationship with a brand. Don't assume your followers already know about your brand relationships. Not doing so is a violation of the FTC Guidelines." And a lot of these folks are being sent free Amico hats, Amico t-shirts, etc. or are investors themselves...and yet they don't mention that in their videos.
I am really curious to see what his old co-host and friend Victor Lucas will end up saying about all of this in the end. I am a fan of Victor's and feel he is a truly genuine person. During a livestream of his I brought up the Amico and he said that he did not want to speak on that at the moment.
Pat next book should be called "Scam Consoles" the rise and fall of the Chameleon and Amico and whatever other relevant scam consoles came around. I'm sure there is an amazing book somewhere in those piles of dramatic trash! When Chameleon took a SNES Mini and threw it in a Jaguar Case is the funniest thing in gaming I've ever seen!
It really is nice to see someone like Jenovi give his raw impressions. YET, even with that, even with someone being real and honest, some Amicommunists still attack the guy on not being "up to date" with every single piece of Amico news. I thought the market was Mom and Dad of today? Are they up to date with the Amico? Do they even know it exists? What does being up to date even have to do with "impressions" when opening a package? They are cheap and flimsy, that's it. These zealots are 100% part of the problem, not Jenovi or Pat/Ian who criticize with facts. Tommy literally spent 10 plus minutes talking about what "limited edition" meant in his unboxing video, can never just give a simple, direct answer, only to say there will be something "special" for owners digitally on the console. He had to gall to say "nobody asked me this", as if people never asked what does limited edition get you on AtariAge and social media commentary. So being vague will really bring on more sales because a digital item will be waiting for you. Oh how special! You would think that would be something to market, printed on the back of the box or include a slip of paper in the "limited edition" informing customers what they will receive for their hard earned dollars. Nah, Tommy thinks less information is better, but someone like Jenovi should be "up to date" on vague/non-information coming from the People's Republic of Intellivision Company themselves. 🤡
These "physical games" remind me of the scene in Dumb & Dumber when the brief case is opened and it's filled with IOU's. "That's as good as [games], Sir. Those are IOU's".
I was watching a Gordon Ramsay video where a chef put prawns in chocolate sauce, and he mentioned how such a vile flavor combination that was NEVER going to work was just stupid arrogance on the part of the chef. At that moment, for some reason, my thoughts turned to Tommy Tallarico and the Amico. Wonder why that could be.
Either the keys are unique. In which case they can be stolen and used up without even leaving the store. Or the keys are not unique. In which case anyone with the url can get the game without buying it. Either way, I can't imagine Gamestop will be happy about carrying the Amico. Also, no way in hell these games will have anything to do with NFTs.
YO I JUST GOT MY FOUR PACK AND I GOT A VARIANT!! i was so pumped when i opened the luscious baby blue, biodegradable, eco friendly, environmentally conscious case and found a eight ball of yayo, coke, power powder, booger sugar, white lines, devils snow instead of the hand engraved, forged in fire, precious metal limited coin. THANX MR. TOMMY TILLILICKAHOLE!! #familyfun #whitelineswiththekids 😎🤘🏽😂😂😂
Didn't Sam M from Ars Technica on how he broke into the Devs Portal that show the specs of the console and it was easy to get into and finding out more about this scummy SCAM console. That's how it shows you that Amico website is easily hackable and be able to get all those RFID codes and probably would sell it back to hardcore Amico Fans.
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
The fact that the "boxes" won't even stay closed once the shrink wrap is removed should tell you they were never designed to be opened in the first place. IE expected them to sit on a shelf for display purposes (also explains why the RFID card has no security). That or the person who designed them is an incompetent idiot with no knowledge product packaging...
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 There's only 10 numbers in our base 10 counting system and if there's one thing computers are good at, it's counting things very quickly. Now, they'd have to count _slow quickly_ as trying 50,000 codes might overload the 486 they set up as the "server".
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Yes, but that's assuming that anything that Tommy said even remotely has a grain of truth, and I'm on the Ian Pessimistic side of "he made it all up".
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
Knowing full-well Tommy is watching your videos, and is very likely reading these comments for artillery, I wanna say this; “Hi Tommy, your fake game console sucks farts and you’re a bad person”
Not sure how these could be sold in Canada. Games that require downloads for some of the content has to have a warning put on the outside the front of the case. If no actual game in inside, that also needs to be on the case as well.
Also, the Amico just so happens to be missing a few mission critical things. Like that little label on the back of my keyboard even though it doesn't do radio communications, still gives it a classification as an electronic product. Like ICES or NMB?
Website link means they have no hope of stopping bad actors, all attacks can be easily automated. Printed code means having a photo of someone else's games (like on ebay) can become yours, like how you can get Windows activation codes from used computer listings.
Exactly, no type of encryption or anything. That's insane. Even if the console isn't out yet and no one can claim them now. Validation and ecryption should be in place if these game keys are already accessible like this.
Servers not being finished yet adds another interesting wrinkle. People will post unboxing videos before they have a chance to claim the game. I just got Finnigan Fox from someone who seemed to know to cover the code but wasn't fast enough. What happens to them when the infrastructure turns on but I am the first to load the URL? It doesn't even require someone to be near the game to steal it.
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
My headcanon is that Tommy wanted the Coleco Amico, but _something_ happened and he didn't want his product associated with a scam. ...Because he's running one and wanted a clean record.
Why is Tommy Tallarico is selling Skylanders shaped like Intellivision cartridges? Selling the "carts" without the RFID base reader. At least Skylanders look cute on a shelf without a base reader fake carts are LAME!
Hey guys, I'm just wondering how many of you besides me thought this console smelled like the ouya, but with a touch of nostalgia tied to it as a usp?. Sad thing is I actually was looking forward to it. But thanks to the ridiculous price tag and pat and Ian's analysis I quickly changed my mind. Thanks for saving me money and sanity!
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 I think you could actually argue the ouya was more capable than the amico is! I think I should have stated more clearly what I meant, I mean it's smells like a failure in the same way the ouya was.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 got a few of those lol its such a shame though, with the right licences, the amico could have been a fairly successful machine. But Tommy has shot himself in the foot with those stupid ten commandments.
Now I'm not only looking forward to this week's "Tommy" call, but also next week's call too already. I can also see Tommy going to jail for this eventually and hope that "Tommy" keeps calling with updates about his new roommate and their time together.
People who invested with Tommy deserve what they get. Why would you give money to a guy who matches the profile of every hot car stereo peddler from the 90's?
telling you... buy from store.. keep sealed. scan the game. put game in microwave for 5 seconds. Card is dead. no one will ever be able to scan it. Return the game to store... game for free, game for life.
I've watched this video several times on the Amico playlist, but this is the first time I noticed the ESRB rating on the boxes. Firstly, why would they put an ESRB rating on a product that technically is not a game? Secondly, how was the ESRB able to rate the games shown on the box? Are the games actually done? Perhaps Tommy fraudulently put the rating on the box before submitting a game to the ESRB?
Honestly if they are just passing a plain text id... yea no these things are going to be endlessly activatable. This is no way this system is going to even remotely have anti-piracy measures.
It helps that Evercade knows it's market and what the price point of its products should be. Also, they know how to make functioning hardware and software.
I still kind of want one "game." Too bad they don't sell them that way. If this system never comes out, I get a box mockup and collector coin--how cool would it be to have that for the Indrema L600 or Phantom?
Tommy T the CEO of a company that is selling IOUs of so called "physical products" that could be games sometime down the road. I agree with Pat that this is indeed insane that the RFID cards are not encrypted at all which could lead to a disaster waiting to happen as Pat mentions @12:26 with people using a random RFID scanner to steal the codes for the games and having the NTF feature kick in more than it should. WHAT THINGS could exist that mitigate that issue with out explanation Tommy? I think Tommy is a joke at this point because he seems like he doesn't care if anyone steals codes for games that his company is trying to sell.
Who in their right mind is going to spend all their time and money trying to steal games that cost 2.99 in their digital store. People are buying physical collectors editions because of the coins and artwork. Also not all games are going to have physical releases.
@@thegamelibrarian1681 True that not all of the games are not going to be physical releases. But there are some very insane people out there who would possibly do just that. But Yeah I can't think anyone with a proper brain who would though.
I assumed they would at least have included rfid shielding in the packaging like Amiibo. I did have a feeling all along though that the rfid feature in general would complicate the hell out of transferring ownership. Even more so if the code is written on the card. The problem is you can't just buy the game used. It sounds like the original owner needs to do something to transfer the digital game to you. I also have to wonder how many people accidentally leaked a game code doing an unboxing.
Well, you know. If anything that Tommy has claimed up to this point about how it works is even anywhere close to reality. TT is the kind of guy that if he said the sky was blue, I'd have to take a moment to double check, yeah?
What will prevent hackers from going after this is the fact almost no one will actually own an Amico to use these codes on. Security through obscurity.
I suspect that Intellivision will add some extra band-aid authentication for these "boxed editions" e.g. provide your store order number after scanning the card.
I was on the Intellivision mailing list because I ordered controller inserts from them back when they released the Intellivision Flashback years ago. I was onboard with the Amico because I only knew Tommy as a guy on G4TV who was a big Tron fan. I would have been one of those suburban dads who would have preordered the Amico. But I knew about the Coleco Chameleon; That’s what made me not pull the trigger on the Amico.
I was interested in this for a while, mostly because of supposive Earthworm Jim game. Im glad I decided not to pre-order. Wow. Thanks for keeping us up to date!
@@a-volpe9091 Yeah, I know that now. Which is why I said "supposive". I haven't seen anything on it so I decided not to preorder based on that, which was about a year ago. It's sad, I hope EW Jim releases on something else. :)
"You get NOTHING, you lose! Good day, sir!" One of the best responses I have heard Pat give! I hope people grasp the layers of humor and snark in this. Laughed so hard at that!
This console is the one last splash chance for Tommy and others to make a good chunk of money. I had snapdragon in my cheap no name cell phone 10years ago..
A great point that you guys made is that if Evercade can make a physical product with a nice case, a full color manual and an actual cartridge, what is Tommy's excuse? Oh wait, he has no excuse because he is a snake oil salesman.
I don't care what's going on in the world if I wake up and see a Pat and and Ion doing another Amico update that jumps the Cue! Oh.. looks like Alec Baldwin shot and killed somebody on set..what's this??? Pat and Ian talking Amico?? (Click Play)
Just watched the MJR vid on the evercade games/console. Amazing little console with awesome game packs- for around $100. I love the game boxes and coloring convention too.
I just dont get why being a fan of the product still drives sales when the buy is so egregiously bad. I am the biggest PS1 fan; it is my favorite system. Did I buy the PS classic? Absolutely not, not even with the price drop.
This non-physical media is absolutely perfect. Why? Because there won't be any physical console, either! The perfect media for the Phantom Amico. Sorry to disappoint everyone who backed this, preordered this, and now bought this phony "physical" media. All you bought was Tommy Tallarico. You bought his crap, and stuffed his wallet. I don't know what purpose a Tommy Tallarico serves, outside of bringing us unintentional comedy, but... You got him. Enjoy. Mike Kennedy wishes he could be Tommy Tallarico when he grows up.
at this point I may owe Tommy some money for all the entertainment the Amico has been providing me with. Not because its a great system with great games, but because listing to Pat and Ian talk about it all the failures and sketchy behavior has been great!
Remember when Sony first sold the PS2 in Europe they specifically called it a computer (as it had a copy of Yabasic included) instead of game system to avoid tax laws... just saying Amico investors, better be careful they don't copy the VCS and give it a Sandbox mode.
@Marc Carran The same version as the Wii had? Course, we have to think back to the specs, such as they might be. That would have been a device that could muster what, Android 4.1, maybe 5 as a stretch? I can't imagine those versions would be much secure, and I'd be surprised if it has a kernel version higher than 3.
It would be neat if it was no more than 120 bucks and had a collection of original games built into it that with a push of a button could swap over to modern visuals (like Halo Combat Evolved did). They could have also ported this product onto a cart/disc and put it on modern consoles as a backup plan, which would have allowed them to see if a simple family console was actually a good idea or not.
You think that stealing codes and posting them on a site like G2A and getting free money... Would be too much trouble... For free money? People literally use way more complex methods to steal codes from other stores. What are you talking about.
Another question I have is, do all those games even exist in playable form as yet? I know we've seen a few snippets here and there but I cant help but think probably 2 or 3 are remotely playable.
Here’s a question, whats the validity/legality surrounding ESRB ratings on these boxes for games that arent even finished yet? Are they just assuming the rating?
It turns out the ESRB allows submissions of incomplete products, which seems like something they should be tighter about. After all, what if someone sneaks in Custer's Revenge into Moon Patrol at the last minute?
What do you think about the insecurity of the RFID cards and codes? Will this be a potential problem for the Amico and customers if/when the console is released?
Check out Jenovi's latest video concerning the Amico here: ua-cam.com/video/3HLRuriqKfw/v-deo.html
The insecurity is jaw-dropping bad. It's awful even if an amateur would have done that. That a company with actual engineers would let something like that out is mind-blowing.
@Dan Smith
It gives me a good feeling in the sense that my expectations of future laughter have risen dramatically.
@@midimusicforever 100% MMF!
The entire packaging should have been edible, so you can fart your game onto this shit console.
@Dan Smith
They can always reactivate the game. The hassle will be for Intellivision, to determine who's legit, and who's not.
Thanks for sharing my video and for the solid coverage. I did a proper follow-up video discussing the larger issues since that short video seemed to cause confusion. I think the follow-up shows clearly the deception (scam), and why it should be upsetting to everyone.
Great job on the followup. I'm sorry you feel you have been fooled by Intellivision's marketing, especially if you were genuinely excited for the product.
Shark shark guys
@@schnarfschnarf5886 nobody cares. Good user name, thought
Semi-weekly Amico dumpster fire discussion has quietly become my favorite recurring segment on the podcast.
Yup. It's a guilty pleasure 😜
This is every bit as good as the chameleon.
Shark shark
Actually, Tommy has the perfect security planned for these "physical products" and their ID codes: they'll never be on store shelves in the first place.
Can't steal the codes if there's no place to buy em!
2022 is when someone will datamine and figure out that the Amico ownership doesn't actually run on NFTs, at which point Intellivision will put out a video claiming they were just trolling the haters, and NFT in this context always meant New Friend Tommy, because anyone who buys an Amico game is Tommy's new friend.
If they do that, then they have the fed coming after them. They received public grant money because they said they were using NFT technology for this console. I would not be surprised at all if Tommy ended up behind bars once this is all done. I just would hope that "Tommy" would keep calling in with updates about him and his new roommate.
Shark shark
RFID mean Regularly Fraud Investors Daily
I have to admit, I’m going to be kind of sad when this drama is over.
@Coffee Man Not for me. Literally it's a completely new thing every week. They've rarely had to trudge over the same things twice. There's always a new low for the amico it would seem.
Its the gift that keeps giving.
@LaserActiveGuy Ha. I already have two Switches for my kids. Mario party, Mario kart and smash brothers seems to do the trick.
Shark shark
@@joshsimpson79 did ya get the new mario party? I heard its like the older ones (which is a good sing)
I’m glad you guys looked at Sean’s video. He’s a genuine dude and his content is always honest. When I saw him upload this video, I knew the games had to be on a whole other level if he was speaking about it on his channel. The whole state of this is abysmal.
Well put sir ✊
Shark shark
Another thing that people don't mention. A lot of these folks promoting and shilling the Amico? They don't realize that they are violating the FTC Guidelines themselves. The FTC states on their site "Disclose when you have any financial or personal or family relationship with a brand. Don't assume your followers already know about your brand relationships. Not doing so is a violation of the FTC Guidelines." And a lot of these folks are being sent free Amico hats, Amico t-shirts, etc. or are investors themselves...and yet they don't mention that in their videos.
Funny that Evercade has a physical Intellivision cart release
Funnier that Tommy promoted this Intellivision cart on his Twitter.
"People that can't afford shirts but can afford to blow $10,000 on Intellivision" hmmm I wonder who Pat could be referring to! 😆
What a bait and switch. And glad you gave jenovi some shine. He some great content and was genuinely interested in the amico.
Ayyyy is this fella haha.
Shark shark
I am really curious to see what his old co-host and friend Victor Lucas will end up saying about all of this in the end. I am a fan of Victor's and feel he is a truly genuine person. During a livestream of his I brought up the Amico and he said that he did not want to speak on that at the moment.
I bet he’ll keep it that way.
Pat next book should be called "Scam Consoles" the rise and fall of the Chameleon and Amico and whatever other relevant scam consoles came around. I'm sure there is an amazing book somewhere in those piles of dramatic trash! When Chameleon took a SNES Mini and threw it in a Jaguar Case is the funniest thing in gaming I've ever seen!
I’d love a documentary video that covered those shenanigans. Those were some hilarious times.
Scameleon? Scamiico?
There's also the smack z.
Nah snopes game room has scam (or any scam) consoles well covered
How has nobody mentioned souljaboy yet?
It really is nice to see someone like Jenovi give his raw impressions. YET, even with that, even with someone being real and honest, some Amicommunists still attack the guy on not being "up to date" with every single piece of Amico news. I thought the market was Mom and Dad of today? Are they up to date with the Amico? Do they even know it exists? What does being up to date even have to do with "impressions" when opening a package? They are cheap and flimsy, that's it. These zealots are 100% part of the problem, not Jenovi or Pat/Ian who criticize with facts. Tommy literally spent 10 plus minutes talking about what "limited edition" meant in his unboxing video, can never just give a simple, direct answer, only to say there will be something "special" for owners digitally on the console. He had to gall to say "nobody asked me this", as if people never asked what does limited edition get you on AtariAge and social media commentary.
So being vague will really bring on more sales because a digital item will be waiting for you. Oh how special! You would think that would be something to market, printed on the back of the box or include a slip of paper in the "limited edition" informing customers what they will receive for their hard earned dollars. Nah, Tommy thinks less information is better, but someone like Jenovi should be "up to date" on vague/non-information coming from the People's Republic of Intellivision Company themselves. 🤡
John Riggs seems he had no problem with the packaging which it seems weird because he should have problems with it and what they are doing
Riggs obviously has a hand in all of this because all his videos regarding the amico are smoke-blowing
Riggs is a shill.
These "physical games" remind me of the scene in Dumb & Dumber when the brief case is opened and it's filled with IOU's. "That's as good as [games], Sir. Those are IOU's".
Sony ps4 and ps5 games were released before the console.
@@thegamelibrarian1681moron
this makes john riggs look even more like a tommy shill now
The manufacturer asks Tommy if he wanted magnets for the digipaks and he said “Magnets? How do they work?”.
Shouldn't john Riggs have to say in his videos of the amico that he's a friend of the guy ??
Shark shark
I was watching a Gordon Ramsay video where a chef put prawns in chocolate sauce, and he mentioned how such a vile flavor combination that was NEVER going to work was just stupid arrogance on the part of the chef. At that moment, for some reason, my thoughts turned to Tommy Tallarico and the Amico. Wonder why that could be.
Either the keys are unique. In which case they can be stolen and used up without even leaving the store. Or the keys are not unique. In which case anyone with the url can get the game without buying it. Either way, I can't imagine Gamestop will be happy about carrying the Amico. Also, no way in hell these games will have anything to do with NFTs.
YO I JUST GOT MY FOUR PACK AND I GOT A VARIANT!! i was so pumped when i opened the luscious baby blue, biodegradable, eco friendly, environmentally conscious case and found a eight ball of yayo, coke, power powder, booger sugar, white lines, devils snow instead of the hand engraved, forged in fire, precious metal limited coin. THANX MR. TOMMY TILLILICKAHOLE!! #familyfun #whitelineswiththekids 😎🤘🏽😂😂😂
btw this is a joke. i don’t wanna get sued or get a visit from the amico “legal” team in the middle of the night in a dark alley lol. just saying
I only sleep 5 hours a night and wear two watches! Coke? You mean the drink?
@@g10118 that’s the only coke i know of lol
Shark shark
Didn't Sam M from Ars Technica on how he broke into the Devs Portal that show the specs of the console and it was easy to get into and finding out more about this scummy SCAM console. That's how it shows you that Amico website is easily hackable and be able to get all those RFID codes and probably would sell it back to hardcore Amico Fans.
There wasn't any 'breaking in'. It was wide open and basically a search index bot archived it. Even worse.
I wonder down the road when the games won't load if this will be called a really special limited variant of the physical media :)
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
The fact that the "boxes" won't even stay closed once the shrink wrap is removed should tell you they were never designed to be opened in the first place. IE expected them to sit on a shelf for display purposes (also explains why the RFID card has no security). That or the person who designed them is an incompetent idiot with no knowledge product packaging...
A brute force to attempt different ID numbers for each game is trivial. Someone is completely going to do that.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 There's only 10 numbers in our base 10 counting system and if there's one thing computers are good at, it's counting things very quickly.
Now, they'd have to count _slow quickly_ as trying 50,000 codes might overload the 486 they set up as the "server".
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Yes, but that's assuming that anything that Tommy said even remotely has a grain of truth, and I'm on the Ian Pessimistic side of "he made it all up".
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
Shark shark
They can prevent that server side very easily
There may be 3 TIERS by which to recover or profit from investment, but I'd bet on there being a lot more TEARS!
Knowing full-well Tommy is watching your videos, and is very likely reading these comments for artillery, I wanna say this;
“Hi Tommy, your fake game console sucks farts and you’re a bad person”
A 2015 budget smartphone board in a footbath shaped console
Not sure how these could be sold in Canada. Games that require downloads for some of the content has to have a warning put on the outside the front of the case. If no actual game in inside, that also needs to be on the case as well.
Also, the Amico just so happens to be missing a few mission critical things.
Like that little label on the back of my keyboard even though it doesn't do radio communications, still gives it a classification as an electronic product. Like ICES or NMB?
I am not going to say this is a scam, but if I was the type to run a scan, I would be taking notes.
Theres no way Intellevision generates 22 million in sales. Not a chance.
My personal prediction is below Gizmodo/Zodiac levels of sales.
Shark shark
@@schnarfschnarf5886 Your right, that game should put them over the top, Big Time.
What’s the over/ under on how many days/ weeks before Mr Tommy goes to jail?
With the SEC already involved, I can only hope it's under, rather than over.
"Dumpster Fire of the Week" 🔥🤣
Website link means they have no hope of stopping bad actors, all attacks can be easily automated. Printed code means having a photo of someone else's games (like on ebay) can become yours, like how you can get Windows activation codes from used computer listings.
Exactly, no type of encryption or anything. That's insane. Even if the console isn't out yet and no one can claim them now. Validation and ecryption should be in place if these game keys are already accessible like this.
Servers not being finished yet adds another interesting wrinkle. People will post unboxing videos before they have a chance to claim the game. I just got Finnigan Fox from someone who seemed to know to cover the code but wasn't fast enough. What happens to them when the infrastructure turns on but I am the first to load the URL? It doesn't even require someone to be near the game to steal it.
@@parkerengines I think everyone can agree that Intellivision is in the forefront of cyber security 😂
First Pat says no one wants the Amico and the games suck. Then he says everyone is going to pirate the boxed editions to play on the Amico they don't want to buy!?!? Pat is truly grasping at straws at this point.
@@thegamelibrarian1681 People who don't own the Amico will be the ones who pirate the games, just to destroy the horribly designed system.
Some people are so far behind in the race, they actually think they're leading. - _Junior_ _Soprano_
I see Pat + Ian + Amiico = i click... already have the popcorn... here we go
I'm half expecting Tommy to say it isn't coming out after the first of the year.
Then he’ll blame Pat and Ian for sabotaging his company with their “lies.”
Intellivision should just port these games over to the Coleco Chameleon :)
My headcanon is that Tommy wanted the Coleco Amico, but _something_ happened and he didn't want his product associated with a scam.
...Because he's running one and wanted a clean record.
Two words: Class action
This disappointed customer is the exact kind of person I was saddened for when this news came out. They really did trick their poor fans
Why is Tommy Tallarico is selling Skylanders shaped like Intellivision cartridges? Selling the "carts" without the RFID base reader. At least Skylanders look cute on a shelf without a base reader fake carts are LAME!
Should have just released another plug n play, the initial intellivison flashbacks have gotten expensive.
This could easily transition into that…it’s barely above a plug & play + “S.A.F.E.”*
*S.lightly
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Hey guys, I'm just wondering how many of you besides me thought this console smelled like the ouya, but with a touch of nostalgia tied to it as a usp?. Sad thing is I actually was looking forward to it. But thanks to the ridiculous price tag and pat and Ian's analysis I quickly changed my mind. Thanks for saving me money and sanity!
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 I think you could actually argue the ouya was more capable than the amico is!
I think I should have stated more clearly what I meant, I mean it's smells like a failure in the same way the ouya was.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 got a few of those lol its such a shame though, with the right licences, the amico could have been a fairly successful machine. But Tommy has shot himself in the foot with those stupid ten commandments.
*RESET THE CLOCK!*
I dunno if Pat & Ian are aware yet, but Fig may have literally been bankrupted by the lack of return on Amico. Wild stuff.
The "things in place": A big rusty metal box to block the RFID - $250
Now I'm not only looking forward to this week's "Tommy" call, but also next week's call too already.
I can also see Tommy going to jail for this eventually and hope that "Tommy" keeps calling with updates about his new roommate and their time together.
I'm surprised that there's actually a download for the games. I thought all the games would be preloaded and the card would just be an unlock code.
People who invested with Tommy deserve what they get. Why would you give money to a guy who matches the profile of every hot car stereo peddler from the 90's?
Man what a SAGA this has been. What an era....How do you think this will ultimately end?
@Coffee Man …actually…it’s setting up for TT to lay all the blame on Todd & Slade.
Tommy is wearing a new orange jumpsuit and is laughing it up with Orange County's finest. In Prison.
Shark shark
telling you... buy from store.. keep sealed. scan the game. put game in microwave for 5 seconds. Card is dead. no one will ever be able to scan it. Return the game to store... game for free, game for life.
But for all that work you are just left with an Amico game
@@paulliadis touché! lol
I've watched this video several times on the Amico playlist, but this is the first time I noticed the ESRB rating on the boxes.
Firstly, why would they put an ESRB rating on a product that technically is not a game?
Secondly, how was the ESRB able to rate the games shown on the box? Are the games actually done? Perhaps Tommy fraudulently put the rating on the box before submitting a game to the ESRB?
Jenovi rocks, a true retro gaming fan. Great video lads 👏
Ahhh yes my favorite segment.
No irate repartee from Tommy this episode....damn.
Honestly if they are just passing a plain text id... yea no these things are going to be endlessly activatable. This is no way this system is going to even remotely have anti-piracy measures.
I cant wait to.play " Ferrari Payments" when it releases. $59.99 Amico console sold seperately
Feels crazy to be part of a pat video haha! Awesome!
I fucking love how you guys don’t sugar coat stuff, love the Evercade products, that’s how it should be done, Intellivision take note
It helps that Evercade knows it's market and what the price point of its products should be. Also, they know how to make functioning hardware and software.
@@stephenschlueter8242 they also managed to release a working version of earthworm Jim 😀
You can tell it's a scam by the wording.
I still kind of want one "game." Too bad they don't sell them that way. If this system never comes out, I get a box mockup and collector coin--how cool would it be to have that for the Indrema L600 or Phantom?
Wow. What a disaster. So glad I abandoned the idea of getting the Amico a long time ago...
Tommy T the CEO of a company that is selling IOUs of so called "physical products" that could be games sometime down the road. I agree with Pat that this is indeed insane that the RFID cards are not encrypted at all which could lead to a disaster waiting to happen as Pat mentions @12:26 with people using a random RFID scanner to steal the codes for the games and having the NTF feature kick in more than it should. WHAT THINGS could exist that mitigate that issue with out explanation Tommy? I think Tommy is a joke at this point because he seems like he doesn't care if anyone steals codes for games that his company is trying to sell.
Who in their right mind is going to spend all their time and money trying to steal games that cost 2.99 in their digital store. People are buying physical collectors editions because of the coins and artwork.
Also not all games are going to have physical releases.
@@thegamelibrarian1681 True that not all of the games are not going to be physical releases. But there are some very insane people out there who would possibly do just that. But Yeah I can't think anyone with a proper brain who would though.
@@thegamelibrarian1681 paid shill
I assumed they would at least have included rfid shielding in the packaging like Amiibo. I did have a feeling all along though that the rfid feature in general would complicate the hell out of transferring ownership. Even more so if the code is written on the card. The problem is you can't just buy the game used. It sounds like the original owner needs to do something to transfer the digital game to you. I also have to wonder how many people accidentally leaked a game code doing an unboxing.
Well, you know. If anything that Tommy has claimed up to this point about how it works is even anywhere close to reality. TT is the kind of guy that if he said the sky was blue, I'd have to take a moment to double check, yeah?
What will prevent hackers from going after this is the fact almost no one will actually own an Amico to use these codes on. Security through obscurity.
Did Pat catch the news that "fluffernutter" was added to the dictionary?
Turbo Joe is excited for this
This whole Amico situation has very strong Fyre Fest vibes…
Dude even Nintendo knew to make sure the NFC chip wasn’t readable in the Amiibo packaging.
how much are these physical copies worth in stanley nickels?
At this point Tommy should've called it quits but didn't for fear of being sued "now" so instead he keeps it going so he's only sued "later"
I miss fake Phone In Tommy.
I suspect that Intellivision will add some extra band-aid authentication for these "boxed editions" e.g. provide your store order number after scanning the card.
It wasn’t the only variant; my “Shart Shart” was mistakenly titled “Shark Shark” 💩
What is that gray console with the screen in the background to the right of Pat's head?
Not sure, but looks to me like PC Engine with screen attachment 🤔
PC Engine LT, which stood loosely for "Laptop", only released in Japan.
@@super256colors2 thank you!
Like buying an engagement ring for a girl that doesn’t exist.
and the chick doesnt even come with a coin and a lenticular card - pffffft!
Or like buying a fake ring for a real girl and then she finds out.
@@Blue-zw8er Hello Zach @ DreamWorld :D
I was on the Intellivision mailing list because I ordered controller inserts from them back when they released the Intellivision Flashback years ago. I was onboard with the Amico because I only knew Tommy as a guy on G4TV who was a big Tron fan. I would have been one of those suburban dads who would have preordered the Amico. But I knew about the Coleco Chameleon; That’s what made me not pull the trigger on the Amico.
You made the Right choice..!!
Oh boy, the sequel that just keeps on giving! 🍿🍿🍿 what a clusterf%$#!
Pat and Ian's favourite Steven King book has to be The Tommyknockers.
How long until Pat finds an Amico for $5 on flea market madness?
“And you gotta autograph it!”
Probably never because Intelevision will run out of money before they can put the system out.
Pat: Frank.
Frank: What?
P: You coming?
F: Nah. I'm tired.
P: They got an Amico here.
F: I'm there.
@@juicyfruit6311 cue Frank being beamed up in a rainbow and transforming into his mecha form like Keith Courage in Alpha Zones
I was interested in this for a while, mostly because of supposive Earthworm Jim game. Im glad I decided not to pre-order. Wow. Thanks for keeping us up to date!
Earthworm Jim 4 is Never coming out dude..
@@a-volpe9091 Yeah, I know that now. Which is why I said "supposive". I haven't seen anything on it so I decided not to preorder based on that, which was about a year ago. It's sad, I hope EW Jim releases on something else. :)
@@MisterRobomareGaming
The EwJ4 artist has said on record that he has no plans to work on a new game, not now or in the future
@@a-volpe9091 yup, already know that. Thanks for thr details though.
"You get NOTHING, you lose! Good day, sir!" One of the best responses I have heard Pat give! I hope people grasp the layers of humor and snark in this. Laughed so hard at that!
This console is the one last splash chance for Tommy and others to make a good chunk of money. I had snapdragon in my cheap no name cell phone 10years ago..
encrypting this day and age is soooo easy to do, unreal they didnt do it.
They did encrypt
@@thegamelibrarian1681 🤡 go away paid shill
A great point that you guys made is that if Evercade can make a physical product with a nice case, a full color manual and an actual cartridge, what is Tommy's excuse? Oh wait, he has no excuse because he is a snake oil salesman.
Just when you think it couldn't get any crappier....
Toilets and Tommy and this amico, are getting shittier every day. It's the ultimate dumpster fire for your popcorn movie pleasure.
I don't care what's going on in the world if I wake up and see a Pat and and Ion doing another Amico update that jumps the Cue! Oh.. looks like Alec Baldwin shot and killed somebody on set..what's this??? Pat and Ian talking Amico?? (Click Play)
Could this project get any lower? Good gracious these “games” reek!
Same Bat time, same Bat channel!
Next week on The Amico Dumpster: Amico bankrupts Fig? Could have!
WRONG! Get a load of "shark shark" then get back at me.. Yyeeeaaaaahhhhh.
Thought so..
Just watched the MJR vid on the evercade games/console. Amazing little console with awesome game packs- for around $100. I love the game boxes and coloring convention too.
I just dont get why being a fan of the product still drives sales when the buy is so egregiously bad. I am the biggest PS1 fan; it is my favorite system. Did I buy the PS classic? Absolutely not, not even with the price drop.
This non-physical media is absolutely perfect. Why? Because there won't be any physical console, either! The perfect media for the Phantom Amico.
Sorry to disappoint everyone who backed this, preordered this, and now bought this phony "physical" media. All you bought was Tommy Tallarico. You bought his crap, and stuffed his wallet. I don't know what purpose a Tommy Tallarico serves, outside of bringing us unintentional comedy, but... You got him. Enjoy.
Mike Kennedy wishes he could be Tommy Tallarico when he grows up.
at this point I may owe Tommy some money for all the entertainment the Amico has been providing me with. Not because its a great system with great games, but because listing to Pat and Ian talk about it all the failures and sketchy behavior has been great!
Remember when Sony first sold the PS2 in Europe they specifically called it a computer (as it had a copy of Yabasic included) instead of game system to avoid tax laws... just saying Amico investors, better be careful they don't copy the VCS and give it a Sandbox mode.
@Marc Carran The same version as the Wii had?
Course, we have to think back to the specs, such as they might be. That would have been a device that could muster what, Android 4.1, maybe 5 as a stretch? I can't imagine those versions would be much secure, and I'd be surprised if it has a kernel version higher than 3.
Wow! It just keeps getting weirder and weirder.
Who in there right mind would blow 20 bucks on a digital copy and a lame coin. This company must be ran by cracksmokers.
It’s actually $80 or $160 because you have to buy them in 4 or 8 bundles
@@cellversesfrieza that's messed up man.
Put those "Physical Products" in a Volcano, Lava Loves it 💥
It would be neat if it was no more than 120 bucks and had a collection of original games built into it that with a push of a button could swap over to modern visuals (like Halo Combat Evolved did). They could have also ported this product onto a cart/disc and put it on modern consoles as a backup plan, which would have allowed them to see if a simple family console was actually a good idea or not.
It seems to me currently that stealing the games according to the methods discussed here would take more time and effort than playing them.
You think that stealing codes and posting them on a site like G2A and getting free money... Would be too much trouble... For free money?
People literally use way more complex methods to steal codes from other stores. What are you talking about.
Just get it wata certified and sell it and you'll make a million bucks easy.
Imagine if Pat had done a podcast every dayfrom 1997 to 2011 leading up to Duke Nukem Forever...this is what it feels like with the Amico LOL
There could be a smaller section on Too Human, and the Phantom Console - I mean the jokes write themselves for that one.
Another question I have is, do all those games even exist in playable form as yet? I know we've seen a few snippets here and there but I cant help but think probably 2 or 3 are remotely playable.
Here’s a question, whats the validity/legality surrounding ESRB ratings on these boxes for games that arent even finished yet? Are they just assuming the rating?
@LaserActiveGuy good to know, thanks!
It turns out the ESRB allows submissions of incomplete products, which seems like something they should be tighter about. After all, what if someone sneaks in Custer's Revenge into Moon Patrol at the last minute?