Can a Solid State Amp be Better than a Valve Amp? - NEW Orange Super Crush vs Orange Rockerverb!
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
- The Orange Super Crush has taken the world by storm! It's a solid state amp that sounds very similar to a valve amp, some have even called it 'the valve killer'. Is this actually true? To find out we compared the Orange Super Crush to the Rockerverb! | tinyurl.com/y4kx9f82
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the Super Crush 100 is capable of imitating the massive, rich and responsive tone of Orange's flagship Rockerverb amps but in affordable, solid-state form. Whether set for clean or punishing high-gain distortion, this flexible amplifier effortlessly captures the legendary Orange sound. It does this so well that you’d swear there were valves inside!
In true Andertons fashion, we decided to shootout the Orange Super Crush to a Rockerverb! Which one did YOU like best?
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» 0:00 Is This a Valve Amp or a Solid State Amp?
» 3:00 Let's Talk About Orange Amps!
» 6:24 Let's Try the Orange Super Crush (Clean)!
» 10:51 Moving On to the Rockerverb (Clean)
» 13:44 Initial Thoughts?
» 14:55 Back to the Super Crush on the Dirty Channel!
» 21:00 Comparing it to the Rockerverb (Dirty)
» 25:30 Reverb Test!
» 27:07 Final Thoughts?
» 29:53 Valve or Solid State? (Answer)
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Your powers of persuasion won't work on me! I shan't spend any money... cuz Dave Simpson already convinced me to buy it. The combo version arrived yesterday. Totally awesome amp, and I haven't even tried my pedals yet. Also, Dave's settings = killer sound.
Does dave have a combo?
@@marka8738 No, Orange sent him the head version, but the settings are the same on both.
What one was it you got? I love daves tones but think a head is a little overkill for at home
@@marka8738 I got the combo. He has the master volume set just past 2, so it's not that loud. The dirty channel gives you some flexibility with the volume, but Lee and Pete are right that there's a sweet spot for the gain. You can kind of move it by playing with the channel volume, but you're basically moving them in sync.
@@JustSomeGuy The nice thing about Orange combos is that the speakers are connected just like you would with a head, which means you can use the combo AS a head. It's the best of both worlds.
I think the real question isn't which one is better.
It's how close is the solid state to the tube amp, and that's what makes this thing a revolutionary step forward for guitar players.
Orange decided to push the envelope and see how close they get a solid state amp to the performance of a tube amp, and the Verdict is: damn close.
I've officially decided to buy the Super Crush 100 as my half stack.
Same bro
Sorry but with UA-cam compression. A lot is lost in that signal. Now I haven’t played this specific amp in person but I’ve played plenty of gigs with people who use solid state. And it absolutely never ever competes. It’s just not the same. Doesn’t mean it’s bad at all, because imo it can sound very good and can fit. However it’s just not the same.
@@TheLeadG u right i played the other day
Vs a tube amp it responds differently with ur picking
@@jessetate9701 100% it’s not even really a tone thing, it’s more a response thing. And how the distortion itself distorts.
This amp is testament that old fashioned solid state transistor amps rock. I have a Marshall MOSFET from the 90s and that thing absolutely rips, you got things like Peavey bandits that are cheap cheerful and cracking tone, and then this is another level ! Nice one lads !
I have an old Peavey Audition 110 25w amp and I love it, so versatile!
No, it only tells the "valve amp effect" can be obtained with solid state, if someone is smart enough.
I bought made in USA Peavey Audition 110 months ago. A wonderful amp!
I couldn't agree more ...👍👌🤘..I have peavey studio 112 silver stripe ,peavey bandit silver stripe,an early 90's randall solidstate 40.....
Agreed. I have a Peavey Studio Pro 112 red stripe. Great little amp !
Yes!! Been waiting for this release and Anderton's review of the orange head for months! Thanks guys! Sounds AMAZING..
That's a pretty impressive solid state amp! Most can't get that slight crunch on the clean channel. I've always theorized that solid state could potentially provide similar clipping and harmonic content to tubes by using FET based amplifier stages with the correct biasing, gain setting, and filtering. Since solid state amps have traditionally been considered "entry level", I think most manufacturers have avoided putting the R&D into it.
and, as someone said in another post, if manufacturers tried somenthing was to replicate valve ways of work and desgings instead of giving solid state its own way
Blues Cube can and does...
I sometimes wonder if people's incorrect superstitions are just catching up with reality. Obviously there are bad solid state amps, but bands I love (pantera, corrosion of conformity, red fang) have sworn by solid state for over a decade, as being equal but different to tube.
@@iandunsmore8091THANK YOU haha Dimebag used Randall amps and then Krank later on
I love the people that hate on solid state then put a distortion pedal in front of a tube amp at home at low volumes
I use solid state for practice period. Only because I don’t need to turn them up. And because I risk breaking a $100-$200 amp instead of a $2,000 amp. Less hours on my tube amps the longer they last and the less issues I will have.
I 100% am a tube snob tho and will continue to stand by tube over solid state, modelers. They never ever ever ever nail metal tones. Ever ever. I’ve played with dozens of bands with Kemper, helix. And they just don’t really sound as good. Never have they ever. People try to fool themselves into thinking there is no difference. I can literally hear it predictably. Funny tho a lot of people think you can ONLY play on tube. And I disagree with that! Solid state has its place. It still can sound good. It’s just not the same.
@@TheLeadG well I've never personally put it to the test I've heard that kemper, helix, grid biased all those they can pass as the real deal at like festival level volumes where there's a lot of other sound sources competing but slowly on their own like direct record they will never compare. Forgive my lack of punctuation talk to text.
@@seanmurry6903 agreed, although even at a festival it’s usually still a tad noticeable. Atleast for me personally
This orange ss sounds absolutely great!!!
I recently received my Super Crush 100 and one thing I would like to note about it is that it’s taking me a bit of a learning curve to dial it in to the tones I want. It’ll do about anything, but the interaction between the gain on the dirty channel, two volumes, and the eq sections are unlike any amp I’ve ever played. I think if the guys at Andertons had a little time with it, the comparison would have been a little closer in results. I’m not saying a $500 solid state amp is going to be 100% as good as a $2000 tube amp…but it comes very close.
Also the tone stacks are different since the super crush is based on the mkiii
As somebody who has never played tube amps, while I've heard of solid state amps crapping out at full power, honestly, I can't understand it through my monitors. They both sounded fantastic!
Usually it's more in the feel than the sound you're hearing (especially over monitors or headphones). Tube amps have a certain touch responsiveness to them that most solid state amps lack (in other words they get dirtier the harder you play them), although the Crush series is one huge exception to that rule. Orange did a damn good job of emulating that tube-like response.
this channel has become fantastic - just keeps getting better
44 seconds in and I don't care if it's Solid State or Valve.... that thing sounds killer! :O
Solid State forever! Red Fang and Melvins are a small but BIG proof solid state can handle in live and studio scenarios.
Buzzo still use beta sunns?
@@stillpist Wtf is a Beta Sunns? Yes, he uses the Hilbish Designs version of the Beta Lead.
@@stillpist sure, but the sunn beta lead is in fact a solid-state amp. I'm pretty sure Dixie from weedeater also uses solid-state sunn amplifiers. You're probably thinking of the model T. Which is kind of the quintessential tube amplifier in the stoner and doom community.
I have played both valve solid state amps since the mid 80's. They both have their place. Among the best setups i've had was the Gallien Krueger ML250 solid state amp with 2000 CPL preamp connected to two 4x12 Marshall speaker cabinets. Now i have sold all my amps and i use software only. So easy and good sounding. :)
I got it wrong on the blindtest, I thought the first amp was the valve one cause seemed a little warmer and more chewy. Good job Orange !
While I'm a Marshall tube amp guy, Ty Tabor of King's X is famous for getting absolutely sick tones from his solid state amp. We can't discount that.
Yeah, he uses the Crush 120.
The comparison of the two clean channels as a pedal platform is what I’ve yet to see. That super crush kills. I love my cr120 for dark doom tones, but this will probably do everything else much better and clearer
Having a similar issue. Do you think it's loud enough to stay clean during gigs?
I can't help but smile when pete is feeling the amp and goes for it 😁👌
I was not surprised at what amps Pete was using at the beginning, I was surprised that I could actually guess. But I think I could tell because of the usual differences that a solid state amp and a valve amp have. The way valves work is messy or sloppy, there is sag, there is lag, there is compression and it all happens on different levels for different frequencies, it's just the messy way of attracting electrons. Romantics would call that mess as complexity and richness. Transistors are more accurate, more immediate, there is a geometric accuracy in the way the work and that, to many people, translates as a flatter, more linear tone.
The Supercrush sounded good indeed.
Guessing which was which was not a matter of which sounded better but rather which one exhibits ss characteristics and which valve ones.
If I wanted accuracy, I would be listening to EDM.
@@gnrfront Cool story bro but nobody asked.
You've been seduced by Mr. Dumble's "Crystal Lattice" theory.
turn up the channel volume and you got all the compression you need lol
@@gnrfront Sorry, but that's a hilarious statement.
Great demo. Thanks.
Great playing, too.
Got my first Orange amp about a month ago, Rockerverb 100MKiii. Been using a Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40 before that. It took me 0.2 seconds to know that the Orange was the tone I’ve been searching a decade for. I’m really happy to see solid state amps come so far because we might not see tubes in amps as often in the future. Part of the reason why I got it was I was afraid I would never be able to get my hands on one ever again. But it’s truly wonderful that we can have such excellent sounding solid state amplifiers being made by people who actually give a damn about sound AND style. Killer amps all of them but hats off to Orange for being absolute monsters in both worlds.
Sounds great to me - Orange distortion with no tubes! Vox has always done great SS amps too, from the Pathfinder to the underrated MV50 hybrid mini-heads. I'm partial though, I have a Quilter Aviator 8 and a Quilter 101 Reverb running through a 12" Eminence Cannabis Rex. Awesome clean tones and plenty of crunch. Would love to hear Pete play through one of the new Aviator Cubs!
Ive been curious about those quilters and a pedal, but i have my concerns it won't be loud enough my boy drums hardAF, but then i hear that rockverb and even thru all the mics and my bluetooth earrbuds I can tell that rockverb is way better. i feel like i should wait and save.
Just picked one up in black and it sounds great coming from tube amps. I was very impressed with the tone and feel especially the cab sim direct out on the closed back setting. Good stuff even for metal if you have a few pedals to run with it.
Solid states excell at clean tones. I'd put the Peavey Bandit clean up against anything. But the distortion can be a bit crispy. The older style SS amps like the Marshall MOSFET 100 and this get pretty close though. Good enough for almost anyone. If tubes are ever banned, I could live easily with these.
Funny enough, I was always a pure "tube only" guy until I entered the world of Jazz and R&B. Then all of a sudden, I started experimenting with Solid State stuff and currently use a quilter steelaire. Hard to beat a cranked up tube amp for dirty stuff, but there are some gems in the SS world like the Marshall you just mentioned.
A clean boost in front of the SC100 really makes it come alive! Just what I am finding it needs.
I enjoyed this video because I too like “ To make it nice for yourself and your feelings!” You guys consistently slay me.
I owned the v1 orange crush and was glad they added more headroom to the clean channel. That reverb is pretty recognizable and gave the game away.
I’m bummed because now you cant get a chimey style break up with the increased brightness
@@georgexander7170 pedals don’t sound as good
@@georgexander7170 lmaooo I’ve tried expensive pedals and cheaper ones and none of them sound as good as a good amp overdrive.
I’ll use fuzz as an effect on occasion but it still isn’t a replacement for amp overdrive. Just a special use effect
@@georgexander7170 actually I don’t know if you know or not there’s this thing called a master volume which allows you to get distortion at a lower volume .
Also this amp is solid state so it’s not like anyone is running it louder for power tubes distortion.
@@georgexander7170 actually I’ve already have 🤡
Try again
It's perfect... I live on the west coast of the states and generally start my day out with a video from you guys... by the time my coffee is ready you guys have uploaded for the day!
I love my tube amps but with the sound quality getting so much better in solid state I want to get one. It'd be nice to have something that I can throw in my truck and not have to worry about it getting bounced around going from place to place.
I grew up with both types of amps, love them both if they're built well. I am from the west coast as well, so we know what's up.
West Coast Also .,Coffee and Andertons
@@lobster4501 Caffeine and the boys of GuilfordSHIRE! lol
I used to use a custom re-wired Bogen Police PA as my tube head, before that a JCM900, Carvin MTS, Mesa Nomad, I've had tube combos, modern and vintage Fenders, Crate, Vox, solid state combos, modeling amps, and recently I switched to a Quilter and likely won't look back. At least not for gigging. What they're putting out in the Tone Block and Aviator series is nothing short of incredible. The Tone Block head weighs 4 lbs and fits in my pedalboard gig bag. They're doing crazy overpowered Class D amps voiced with the same technology they're using for IRs but all 100% analog. I've yet to find a cab it doesn't sound great through: a ported 4x12, a closed back 4x10, ported 4x10, 1x12 with a horn, open back 2x12. And they're stupid cheap AND built in Costa Mesa.
Love from SLO County California!
@@evilrobotchris Orange County California ..here
Always played Fender tube amps, and loved them...still do, till the solid state Roland Blues Cube Stage changed my mind.
Orange answered my prayers with the Super Crush 100. It is everything I needed and wanted in one package.
I always liked the CR120 for checking guitars. Most other amps kept varying their voicings with newer models, so difficult to assess like-with-like over time with guitars, but the CR120 kept the same for a long time. I'd like to try/hear the CR120 with the Supercrush 100 now to see which I prefer, but expect only the new amp will be available.
I had a Marshall 50 Split Channel Reverb, a good 2x12 solid state combo amp from the 1980's, which I just sold. When I had it the volume was never turned up very loud as we used it indoors and I have a wife who doesn't like loud guitars! When I sold it the guy that bought it wanted to test it out and we decided to turn it up. Contrary to most SS amps, that thing sounded monstrous when loud, all of the bass tones I'd never heard suddenly came out, it was awesome. The point is, not all SS amps lose it when turned right up, that one just got better the louder we made it.
I think both amps sounded great. I could hear a difference on the cleans, but I couldn't tell which was which. I could tell the difference on the overdriven tones and I guessed the solid state vs. valve correctly. The solid state amp drive tones still sounded good though.
That's a well loved Telecaster! Nicely done fellas.
They do make the coolest looking amps and the price on Super Crush is a steal for the quality sounds you get from it.
Lovely playing by Pete
I love ss amps but my first amp in the mid 80s was a Yamaha G100 212SIII which was about a grand (from memory) or so. It sounded as good as my brothers JCM800 in all but overall volume. The Marshall was twice as loud, but aside from that, I love solid state as long as you've got good speakers to go with it.
Great video! The valve was clear from the clean tones, it's just a better tone. That tele is dreamy by the way. The solid state is good though and...a solid choice. I'll get my coat
21:00 I love how Pete is honest on this one. Even though I have a Nextone amp nothing's like a good tube amplifier.
I no longer play in a band, but if I did I'd definitely go for the tubes.
I use a crush pro 120 for bedroom use and it sounds awesome with a pod hd500x (4 cable method). Also solid state means no ongoing cost with re tubing and swapping.
I'm using an Orange Rockerverb 100 MkIII as home amp, yes HOME AMP! I live in a house and when my kids and wife are not at home, i crank it up LOUD!!! IT'S GLORIOUS! Can't beat a cranked tube amp! But for bedroom level guitar playing I could see myself playing a solid state amp like the Super Crush! Sounded really good at low and mid volume!
The Rocker 15 is also nice cause of the power scaling if you want to stick with tubes
Not really surprised as the first amp sounded a bit Fuzz like on the high gain setting. The valve amp has that ballsy grunt when cranked and is very addictive, which is why I now wear hearing aids to reduce the effects of tinnitus. Was fun tho 😉
Pete is seriously one of the best guitarists I’ve ever heard
I prefered the overdriven valve amp .... but it blew my mind when I discovered that I prefered the clean channel of the solid state.
Yeah, they really have a nice clean sound if they are well made. Its just more balanced somehow.
I think this is why some people consider the old Music Man amps to be the best “clean” amps ever. They have a very well-built solid state pre-amp, and I think that transistors provide a stability and firmness for clean tone that preamp tubes can’t always get. My Music Man HD-130 is the least “flubby” amp I’ve ever experienced, even when it’s cranked! And I don’t think it would be like that if it didn’t have the ss preamp.
I guess it also comes down to the Dave Simpson argument of ownership benefits like stability and reliability of solid state and whether this is more important to you than some of the tonal benefits of valve amps.
That flubbiness is probably because of the Les Paul. Put that mud harvester away and get the Tele back out.
It is also not _unheard of_ for an Orange amp to have an unruly low end. Some people like to tame that low end.
Others, I.e. those who love it when bands "bring back the nasty riff, but slower," see it as a feature rather than a bug. 😁
Merry Christmas All at Andertons and to all who see the channel! Doing this same experiment right now myself!
A lot of times I can’t tell the difference but it makes me feel better knowing I have tubes in my amp. I went from a line 6 to a mesa California tweed and it definitely changed my perspective.
There have been many great solid state amps over the years. Roland JC120. Marshall Mosfet. Fender M80. Peavey Transtube. Sunn Beta.
The old Marshall Valvestate amps mastered the blend of solid state with valve tones. I have an old 1997 Marshall Valvestate VS30R, and it is loud & clear on the clean, and loud and dirty as hell on the drive channel. I have to have the volume down on 2 when playing at home, just like my valve amps, but the solid state amps sound way better at low volumes than my valve amps do.
I'm glad yours sounds good because I had one too and it was crap lol
Amen bro,I have 100 watt Valvestate kicks ass👍🏿
I have a VS100R, it isn't that good, or any good whatsoever, very raspy and thin sounding, let alone the buzz it creates by just being turned on, it's unbearable (even after replacing the preamp tube). It wasn't any good when new, it isn't any better now that they are older. I can say that the stock Marshall Goldback speaker sounds amazing through a tube amp, I've been using the VS100 as a 1x12 cab as it's the only use that thing can have 🤣🤣🤣
@@JohnWiku That’s a bummer. Not sure if I got lucky then.
I bought mine brand new in 1997, and it has never left my bedroom. I recently bought a brand new Katana mk2 100w and a Blues Jr, thinking I was upgrading, but my old Marshall VS30R is still more clear and articulate than both of them on the clean channel, and when using pedals with it. The only thing lacking to me is the dirty channel. It’s a weak overdrive sound, but when I pair it up with Boss Blues Driver, it sounds great.
I run a crush 120 with a katana 100. Together they are really good. And it’s not the end of the world if a beer gets spilled on them unlike a rockoverb. Good video guys
Yeah you needed Dave on this it’s his specialist subject
The other day I ran my Marshall origin 50 combo with my friends little 8 inch orange crush amp and it actually sounded amazing
This, the Marshall MOSFET, and several Vox offerings, show that yes, it can be done.
I’m loving the tone of the Rockerverb MK2
I saw the Orange amp and was hoping I'd see the guitarist from Collateral, Todd Winger. Guys a beast!
Great vid guys.
Knew right away which amps he was using. Solid state has nice tight tracking and dynamics when the tube is a bit more warm spongy and compressed
I'm sold on the combo Super Crush.
Great sounding amp. I could tell the difference between the two, but it will not be something to write home about. Meaning get the solid state if you want to - wou WILL NOT regret it. It is a fine amplifier. Playing time, practice and general creativity is what moves tone forward. ;)
To the video title, absolutely, because not every valve amp is amazing. Some sound terrible, and others just might not fit what you want or need.
I have a peavey trans tube head from the early 90s.... basically a bandit on steroids. love it. I also have a carvin x100B, love it too. I go back and forth between both. Like the peavey for distorted tones and the carvin for cleans
It would have been nice if the half hour test video could have included at least a 5-10 second chugga-chugga metal riffage. Some people would use the amp for heavier music than ZZ Top.
I play the crush 60 pro with a celestion V30 for years now and I still can't complain about it. Except for the volume thing you guys mentioned compared to the Valve amp. That is very true to my crush 60 as well. Sounds awful when you turn it up to compete with a drummer 😅
I'm really not hearing what they are hearing when they say the solid state sounds worse at the high gain settings...it sounded absolutely fine...good actually. I'm listening through studio monitors and I just don't hear this flubby thing they are referring to. Can anyone help me out?
I don’t about this latest amplifier from Orange - but I own the Orange Crush 12 and it absolutely crushes it in terms of tones. Sounds like an actual tube amp with low end warmth.
The clean sound from the Tele was just beautiful - I thought the Crush crushed it ;)
A good analog solid state amp, like a JC120 or Fender Dyna-Touch, is a great thing. I've been using one since the late 90s in stereo with a tube amp to get the best of both worlds.
The front of a note is a bit different... more immediate on the solid-state.
yep I bought a jc120 a few years back and there's a huge IMMEDIATE-ness to it....you can't hide behind that amp! if you're a crappy player then it'll show it!
Yeah you can hear it if you have this A-B next to each other, but i must say the solid state sounds pretty nice. I like how it sounds clean, but the distortion is nice on the valve amp...
Pete's facial expression at 1:26 give it away.😁
I think my Roland Blues Cube Hot is a better 'overall amp' than any like-sized valve....far more practical for home use/practice too especially for apt dwellers. ... built in attenuation feature is so practical. There is nothing like a wailing tube amp...I will confess that...
TWO DAYS LATER: I have a Marshal DSL5CR coming tomorrow...miss tube...need to try a small tube amp.
The blues cube is an amazing amp, really gives you the tube feel, without the problems that tubes come with.
I also have a blues cube 60 and find it to be way more compressed on the lead channel. Orange is more open and real sounding to me.
Both sound great....😁👍🎸😎
I only have a solid state amp these days, it does the job but I can still remember how a tube amp sounds.
Solid State miss that creaminess that makes you feel like you could reach out and touch the sound in the air.
Still, for some applications it is just fine. I'm happy with mine for my home noodling.
Have you turned up the reverb though?
I have both and modelers and they're mostly the same except the tube amp has to warm up. Tube romance is so silly. 🙄
@@MobileDecay in the room with amps loud its not even comparable, tube wins everytime!
@@Ron4president09 How loud does it need to be in a room?
@@MobileDecay super loud! Only way to play!!!!
look to be a good little amp :) great sound
great sounds for the money and amp features.
I own the super crush and for the money it's a seriously good choice if you just want a simple reliable amp. I also run a clean boost infront of it at all times and it just gives it that little extra that I think it needs.
I'm wondering how loud this sounds in the studio setting if the decibel meter is reading into the high 90's? From someone who has just spent a a fair wack on re valving and servicing my two valve amps, the Solid State Super Crush sounds like a great deal for clubs and pubs with a good guitar and some quality pedals to shape the sounds.
Decibels aren't misleading. They are what they are.
Maybe do a vid with your favourite valve amp and sound, and (try to) recreate it with a clean solid state amp and an assortment of pedals?
Solid state amps can be awesome. I used a mid 70’s AC30SS for many years. Totally killer amp.
Damn, Pete's playing is so good.
I guessed the cleans correctly but the gains wrong! Think I prefer the tubes because I'm in love with that slightly pushed sound which a solid state just doesnt do!
I used to play an old Fender M-80 Stereo Chorus that was solid-state. I loved that amp. I still have it but it's in need of some repair and it's become too heavy for me.
I honestly thought of getting myself the Orange Crush 100 by selling my valve blackstar 100HT, just for the purpose of having an Orange head with my orange cab. I would just use the pedals in it, not the amp distorsion. BUT it is also true that valves are valves, they have that thing that for the moment 400$ solid state amps don't have. but the price is veeeery gooood!
Only needed to watch up to 3:00 to reach the conclusion that the warm clean tone on the Tele sounded fantastic ... and I would be happy with either amp. Just comes down to feel and price.
Quilter Labs has made their name by building great sounding Solid State amps. They are one of a very few (Maybe the only) companies that has address the farting that occurs when you push the power amp section too hard by giving the power section a ton of headroom. Your overdrive strictly from the preamp section. It makes sense.
I got it right, both times. However, while I could hear the difference between the valve to the solid state. That solid state amp was so close that I don't think it matters.
I own both ss and valve, I use a 20w valve combo to get my tone, then run that direct out into a 250w SS pa amp hooked up to 2 4x12 marshall quadboxes.
Ty Tabor and a Labtec L5 does it for me! Though he's been using a Super Crush of late I hear.
Captain, the cleans have a great edge of break up sounds which u overlooked.
The legendary Orange sounds, but achieved using transistors. Great !
just bought the 120 pro the other day. it is amazing for the price
Was sure amp 1 was solid state in both dirty and clean! Liked the drive of the valve amp quite a bit more, but at the same time preferred the cleans of the solid state!
speaking on ss amps--remember the Marshall lead 12--impressed many to even use in the studio
Pete! What's happened to the purple OG? White mark of doom or additional relic?
Too me they both sound great it’s just a matter of preference and your situation. Without some sort of attenuation, you’ll never be able to crank the tubes loud enough to get their good tone at home. With the solid state, if you crank it for gig use you’ll push it past the point where it sounds good. I play 99.99% at home so I’d go with the crush and if I had to gig I’d use it as a pedal platform. Either way, if you own one of these you have a great amp.
But what if it was miked to a PA? If the PA has the headroom, then you might not need to drive the solid state as high.
Not completely true, it depends on the design of the amp, you can play an ENGL or a Diezel at bedroom level without any problem since the structure comes from the preamp and the poweramp doesn't add gain. They're meant to have a very high headroom so there's no cranking and the distortion remains clean and controlled, exactly the opposite as with an old Plexi.
I think this comparison does a little bit of a disservice to both amps but more so to the super crush. The super crush is based on the rockerverb mkiii. The one in the video is the mkii.
You can tell by the graphics on the front.
The best solid state amp is the Roland Blues Cube. The Tube logic is just great, Roland has done an amazing job with this amp.
Sweet as hell! But I would put my Lab Series L5 against ANY VALVE or TUBE AMP on the market today! Ya!..it's heavy ( 73 lbs.) and I gigged with it! When I look at new amps, I just wonder how anyone can justify spending over $3000.00 bucks for some? Love your vids and I watch whenever they pop up! Could you do a acoustic amp comparison? I currently use a Johnson 15R acoustic amp, and I'm in the market for a new one. Keep on rockin'!
I like the second amp (so the tube got the gain and the solid got the clean) one both times
The only correct conclusion to draw from this is that Pete's Tele, in Pete's hands, always sounds amazing. But we all knew that anyway.
Pretty sure the right guy's got Jack Daniels in his Pepsi can.
I preferred the tube, both clean and crunch. I'm sure it's more stark in person but I bet even then that super crush gets 90% of the way for 1/4 of the price.
I literally just searched moments ago today, if a solid state amp can sound close to a real valve???? Crazy 👍🏼