i7-4790 vs R5 2600 - Is it Worth Upgrading to a Second Gen Ryzen 5?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
2:11 - Specs
3:54 - Software Benchmarks
4:58 - Gaming Benchmarks
10:15 - Temperatures & Power Consumption
11:12 - Conclusion - Наука та технологія
*Correction*: Made a mistake at 10:30 - Zen+ is monolithic, Zen 2 is when AMD moved to the chiplet design.
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Really good test! I have i7-4790, 16GB DDR3 1600MHz, Asus H81 MB(I missed some good deals to get a better one) and GA 1070. All parts are used ones and bought them in last 2 years. I am happy with it.
A good system. You can still play most games at 1080p.
I use the 4590 and now am thinking of upgrading it with the 4790.
Great video! I recently helped a friend max out his old i5-4460 system (or 4560? Can't remember) with a GTX 970. Rather than scrap the system and start over and because he was on a budget, we just popped a 4790k on the board and swapped the GTX 970 for an RX 5700 XT and he's rocking and rolling with it (he just games at 1080p 60 fps so it's perfect!)
Solid upgrade
Great quality as always. Interestingly pric difference of i7 and r5 is around 20-30 euros in my country. I think that r5 is better choice if you want to build a PC, since you can find am4 motherboards more easily and sometimes cheaper. However upgrading from i7 to r5 would be only beneficial if you plan to use it in productivity tasks. I7 is still quite capable chip for gaming and I would choose either R5 5600 or i5 12400 as an upgrade.
My friend is now replacing his couple years old i7 2600K @4,4 GHz system with a new R5 5600X, Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite V2 and 16GB DDR4 3200 combo B- ) He's got a Radeon RX 6600 to put on it.
Have haswell system back in the day, planned to upgrade to 4790 but never had a chance
Today I'm rocking 12100 and glad it roughly double the performance of 4790. Me in haswell days wouln't even believe that 4 core 8 thread is considered budget low end build nowadays and an i3 doubling the performance of I7 is unheard of.
Great to see another upload my man 🥰✊👍. Love your work! 😇🥳. I actually upgraded from a 4790k to a R7 2700 (at launch) and it was an impressive boost to fps, but also game fps fluidity and removed the transient fps spikes etc 👍😇. Now running newer systems again and the improvements are again noticeable 😁.
Thank you!
You can get a Ryzen 5 3600 used for around $80-100 nowadays... I wouldn't even bother with a 2600 or a 1600 AF at this point unless it's like $50 or less and you're on an extremely tight budget. Not worth it to go below Zen 2 nowadays, especially since they've gotten so cheap and they're so much better than earlier Ryzen chips.
If you find a 3600 for a similar price, of course it would be wiser to go for it.
As the AM5 platform started to be sold in couple months, i think it would be wiser to just grab zen 3 like 5600 or 5500
@M Taufiq N I also would wholeheartedly recommend Zen 3 over Zen 2, but some people are on a budget. Also, I would avoid the Ryzen 5 5500. It's barely Zen 3 with such a small L3 cache and only supports PCIE gen 3 unlike the Ryzen 5 3600. Plus it has almost no performance advantage over the 3600. However, the Ryzen 5 5600 is an excellent CPU. It just happens to be about twice the price of a used 3600, assuming you can find one for $80. That said, if you can find a Ryzen 5 5600 for closer to $100 I would 100% recommend it over a 3600 regardless of your budget.
@@kylemueller as a 3600 user, i actually wanted to upgrade to the 5600, but after seeing the comparison between them, i think i can stay a bit longer to my 3600
Yeah, I'm really happy with my 3600. With anything under maybe a 3070, you're seldom if ever going to be CPU limited in normal gaming scenarios (unless you're into super high refresh eSports gaming.)
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I have a Ryzen 5 2600 in my PC - I got it about 4 years ago and it still holds up well by todays standards and I really dont run into any problems in it! Would recommend!
Interesting to see comparisons of older CPUs with new ones. Those early i core CPUs were good.
It's a pretty thorough change, going from a DDR3 platform to a DDR4 platform. Board, CPU and RAM have to be replaced. Seems like, as you said, that money would be better spent moving to something more powerful for just a little bit more money.
Moving to AM4 is a good decision however, because it allows access to many different performance levels at the same time, all the way from Zen 1 - Zen 3. There's and upgrade path, unlike with Intel's systems.
Better to keep the money, Stay with the I7, and wait a few more months for AM5. Depending on Motherboard I would probably buy the K version of this i7 and overclock it like mad, and wait a bit longer to replace it. I got a similar i7-6700k that runs pratically everything without a problem. No real reason to upgrade. Might wait till the AM5 platform that hasn't even launched gets cheap and buy second hand gear and a CPU with many more cores.
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Nice to see a current review of Zen+ CPU's RA Tech. (Current owner of an Asus b350-f/2600X/1050ti) Mostly used for indy games and lighter Steam titles. (stable and runs great!) Nephew has the Ryzen 5 2600/b450/GTX 970/32 gigs, Will be getting a RTX 2070 to play MW2 and newer titles. Thanks again for the CPU cores and DDR3/4 memory comparisons with current titles.
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great video. I wanna suggest you to choose roaster 3D option on RTSS software so that the fps and infos can be seen comfortably. Vector 3D is too hard to notice sometimes. Hope you understand.
Thanks!
Personally I prefer Vector 3D. Sure, there are areas where the information might not be properly seen, but for the most part everything is visible just fine.
I have the 4790 with 32 gb of ram and it has never gave me any issues and it runs okay for what it is with a 2060, I love my haswell and its honestly a really reliable processor for people who just want to game, The build cost me around $1700 back in early 2015, I am also rocking a Cooler Master HAF 912, that I will be using for a future build because I do not like unicorn vomit and like just a red light around my front fan lol
still rocking my i7-4790 rx580 combo till now planning on upgrading my gpu to a 5700xt hopefuly
Good video. Very informative. Just built myself a system based around the Ryzen 5 1600 AF. Got it for a trade for an Intel i5 8400. I have it paired with an RX 5600XT and 32GBs of RAM and I am loving it so far. Don't think I will be switching back to Intel anytime soon.
It's a very good video and you can only work with the hardware you have on hand, no use spending a lot of money on older hardware that isn't your main pc.
I would like to see how the cpu's especially the game lows compare with both cpu's running identical 2133mhz ram, I know they can both do that. The Ryzen's ram is TWICE as fast here as the 4790, that has to be an advantage..
The jump from 2400 MHz to 3200 MHz with this Ryzen setup results in about 6-12% frame rate increase depending on the game, while the frame times remain mostly the same. I'm sure the i7 with 2133 MHz memory would also have a 5-10% uplift over 1600 MHz.
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like to see comparison with different flight sims
good vid, i have a i7 4790k but paired with a GTX 1080Ti for gaming, but i also own a Ryzen 5 3600 paired with a RTX 2060KO for dedicated Livestreaming/Local Recording While Streaming, however i am lookin' to upgrade to a better CPU for gaming, but tha Ryzen 5 3600 wasn't tha CPU i would be upgrading my 4790k to, for me on tha gaming side, i'd be lookin' forward to a upgrade on my gaming side from a i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D instead
Nicely done, I wonder if you can make a video comparing sandy bridge xeons against 1st gen ryzen 7's?
Haven't though of that, but I'll look into it.
@@RATechYT thanks a million! great content as always
Спасибо за интересное сравнение.
Хотелось бы увидеть с процессором i3 4160 vs i3 6100/i5 6400
Не обещаю, но могу сделать что то подобное.
@@RATechYT буду ждать. В любом случае я подписан, контент интересен все посмотри
1080p has been the standard res for over a decade. I am amazed everyone still uses it. My history of flat screens is as follows: I used 768p/900p/1080p up until I went to 1440p 120Hz in 2014 and then 2160p 60Hz in 2017. As prices have come down on higher res panels I have adopted them. I use 2160p 120Hz for 2 years now and am happy with it but I want a 4k 240 Hz Oled now. Can't wait until I can afford one.
A i7 4790K OC+2133mhz+ DDR3 would be muchh closer id like the test man.
pretty awesome
thank you for the video
this is just me, butttt
if its only stock settings
BOTH cpu are still good
thought the 4790 has no upgrade path (Xeon may be ?) also DDR3
and the 4790 also has iGPU (10/10 so so so great for troubleshooting)
both are still good
You can get a 12100f a decent mobo and 16 gigs of 3200 ram for around $200 and thats all the cpu you need for 1080/1440p and it would even do 4k provided you are targeting 60 fps.
Replacing my 4790 3.6 ghz with the 4790k 4 ghz processor. Oh the 4770 non-k is great if you ask me. (And it will be transferred to another machine.) I think the 4790k will do a noticeable improvement. See how your 4790 boosts itself to about 3.8 ghz? Again, very nice. But the 4790k with its base clock at 4 ghz doesn't need to boost. (and when it does it's always over 4 ghz.) That's still pretty damn fast today and should smooth things out a bit. This machine is for games and playing video on a TV. Really couldn't resist going for the 4790k 4 ghz for the price. And a second machine will get the 4790 (non k) to replace its 4770. Not bad in the bang for the buck category at all if you ask me. These are Optiplex builds by the way. A 750 watt power supply in the 4790k computer WILL work and let the processor boost itself on that tasty 4 ghz base clock. Guessing that Ryzen of yours will STILL edge out the i7 4790k. (maybe!) Getting older, I appreciate keeping the older hardware kicking. And this build was pretty cheap. (RTX 2060, Dell 9020mt, i7 4790, 32gb ram, all sata SSDs by the way. ??? The second computer? RTX A2000 low profile graphics card, Dell 9020sff, i7 4770, 32gb ram all sata SSDs.)
So as I rewatch this I realize that Zen had Ivy Bridge/Haswell single core ipc. Zen+ had Broadwell single core ipc. AMD has a superior implementation of SMT (They get an extra ~35% per core from it whilst Intel barely manages ~15% per core), so they will always be that much faster in multithreaded workloads. It makes the older Zen chips seem even older than they really are. It wasn't until Zen 3 that they finally caught up to and in cases beat Intel. Now they go toe to toe. With the X3D chips being the current de facto gaming chips. This in mind, no you are not getting old, but the performance of Zen and Zen+ is.
I miss playing for computer parts I use a gaming laptop nowadays performance is more than enough for me and close enough to desktop counterparts . Though sometimes I just Wana mess around and be able to upgrade or try different gpus just ro see what happens or build a pc from scratch . I do miss my bigger screens I have 16 inch laptop but it's quite good 1600p 165hz gsync so an upgrade would have to be 400 dollars and up I want an actual upgrade.
It depends on which os. I7 4790k is fast on windows 7, though modern games requires dx12 and windows 10 os, ryzen 3 3100 does not support wind 7 in my case.
Im still using an i7 4790 + asus z97 pro + 32gb 2tb ssd + rtx 4070 ti oc its a giant bottleneck but with a 1080p monitor I can play everything also with the sony a7iv 4k 60 fps 10bits in premiere/davinci resolve lightroom and photoshop works great !! Maybe I will upgrade for i5 13600k and 4k monitor .
The cpu test would of been more fair if system ram size was identical, in dual channel. I have a 4790k with ddr3 that will match the 2600 results with the ddr3 vs the 2600 ddr4. The 4790k even without over clocking has a 4% improvement in clocking vs the stock 4790.
Yes, though like I mentioned I was limited by the hardware.
nice one i have here i7 4790 8gig memory but not good without any video card and my motherboard worn-out...i plan to buy a new board if i got an extra money ...do u have extra Graphics Card?? RA Tech ? hehehehe :)
I have i7 4790K @4.80Ghz OC and DDR3 2400mhz RAM
4790k OCd to 4.5ghz only at 1.23v!!! For my partner is works like a charm and I know it can stretch further
I dont know why but i get around 160 points in r15 single and around 1250 in r15 multi on my ryzen 2600, your results are a little lower than expected
Like I mentioned at 1:17 - this is a Ryzen 5 1600 AF, which has slightly lower clocks than a 2600. Motherboard differences also can impact performance slightly, your numbers are right in line with what I got with an MSI B350 Tomahawk in my Ryzen 5 1600 AF video (ua-cam.com/video/FSF-rB9XNqw/v-deo.html - 1:57). All of this isn't really a big deal since the difference shouldn't be more than 5% in majority of cases.
Desktop Zen and Zen+ are not chiplet designs though. They utilize a monolithic Zeppelin die.
Yup, made a mistake there.
At this point anyone on AM4 seeking more performance should just get a 5600(non x) or 5700x as that’s a big performance jump on top of these and they’re very well priced new now.
There is any way you can sell me the i7 4790 cpu? hard to find and it would fit perfectly on my DDR3 rig
IMO doesn't worth the upgrade over 4790 simply because 2600 is 6c12t and 4790 is 4c8t. The 50% lead of 2600 is exactly due to that cause it has 50% more Cs and ts. but a R5 3600 is surely worths the upgrade over 4790. Thanks for the review. keep it up!
hey man do you think the r5 2600 would be still capable and hold strong even tho i find one used
Yes, it is still pretty capable.
AMD Am4 platform is God sent.
Now as a second hand, so many good processors that play smooth framerates
I was thinking about upgrading my whole setup but i found an I7 4790 for 35$ with 2 month replacement guarantee. I just saved myself around 1500$ lol.
what do you think about yes tech city saying the 4770 will beat the fx8350 in all games .
It does beat it.
I seriously considered the 1600AF to replace my i5-2500k, especially after building my mother a 1600AF machine. The moment passed, though, and I eventually settled on an i5-11400 as the replacement.
That's an even better upgrade. Enjoy it!
lol, I got much higher cb15 with my old 2600, look on my channel, 1450 multi and close to 170 single if I remember correctly, but was oc'ed, 2600 much better than 4790 as you can't even oc the 4790. Now get a 4790k and oc the hell out of it and compare to a 2600 oc'ed at 4.2 at least, that would be interesting, I think the 4790k would probably take the lead in most games just because of the single core.
also my 2700x gets me 1930 multi at 4,2 and only 1,275v, I could go 4,25 but the voltage increase is insane for just 50 mhz, I would have to use 1,325v to be fully stable, not worth it
So 2014 cpu vs 2019
wat about a 4790k
The minimum to upgrade today is a used R5 3600 ;)
Yea I would agree, I doubt the 3600 is even much more expensive.
too many 3600 have failed.. i would settle for the 3700 instead.
@@adamtajhassam9188 do you know why they failed? Overclocking, mining, some other reason?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now poor bin too much heat output
The 2600 was great for its time, but if im upgrading today id look for a 3600(x) or even better, wait for ppl to start selling off 5600x' when ryzen 7000 comes out.
6 cores 12 theads ? Yes please
How Much Performance Difference Compare to i7 3770 vs Ryzen 5 5600??
Massive difference.
r5 2600+b450m max is $99 in my country,will it be good to pair with rx6600 which i got for $190
Yup.
I just purchased an old office computer and stuck a 4790 in. So far, so good.
how many price ?
Can they fit in the same board?
Of course not.
RA Tech : synthetic benchmarks like Cinebench R15 are full of hidden Intel compilers that always hurt nonIntel cpu-s in IPC....hence "better" single-core on the i7 4790 despite the fact that it's a 2014 chip. Today there are still some games / benchmarks that still use the graphic engine based in that era....in which Intel bribed many devs in exchange them integrating hidden compilers in their engines. Cinebench R15 isn't a trust worthy program due to above mentioned facts.
The ryzen 2600/1600AF does not use a chiplet designado, it is a monolithic chip, it has 2 ccx but those are in the same chip
It actually has 3 cores enabled on each CCX.
@@RATechYT ik, I didnt even mention a core amount because it is pretty obvious tbh
@@valentonto You're right. What I was trying to say there is having the cores on 2 separate CCX's helps with heat transfer. I confused the chiplet design with Zen 2.
I7 4790 was released on 2014 while r5 2600 was released on 2018 which is 4 years apart and i7 is a ddr3 while r5 is a ddr4 which has more memory speed yet i7 is still doing great hands up on intel! One thing thoe using a good cooler on i7 helps a lot, it helps with stuttering and smoothness of fps cause of how hot can i7 get like really fast
The i7 wasn't throttling. In the temperature test the i7 is at least 15°C away from throttling, so it would perform the same regardless of cooling solution.
All the benchmarks 4:39 said R5 1600 but the video title and I hear you saying it was a R5 2600...
I explained in the beginning that it's a R5 1600 AF, which is the same as the R5 2600. The 2600 is a more popular CPU, that's why I wrote that in the title.
Surprised how well the 4790 held up. Be interesting to see this repeated with a much more powerful graphics card of the type someone might reasonably upgrade from a 1070 too, a bargain used crypto market crashed 3080 perhaps.
Additionally throw in a Ryzen 5600 or 5700 to make it really interesting!
I own an RTX 2070 right now, though unfortunately I bought it after I was done with testing.
4790 maxes out on a 6600/3050-60
You would see a much larger difference with a more powerful modern graphics card. 5600x would take a big lead further and realistically be the what you would actually want to upgrade so if bothering with a whole platform change. Though AM5 is about to drop. More costly but massive lifespan.
I'd say moving to AM4 from Haswell would still be a good upgrade, there is a huge selection of processors and upgrading to anything better than Ryzen 5 2600 will definitely be noticeable.
@@RATechYT yeah for sure, just might as well spend not a lot more and get the big IPC and clock speed jump that comes from ZEN3 chips.
Im still rocking an i7 4790 with 28GB of ram ;=)
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@@RATechYT yo tengo 2 trabajos y aparte subo contenido a yt tambien , mi canal ni monetizado esta, aparte vivo en venezuela que aqui la cosa esta dura, no entiendo esa respuesta de que yt no es lo unico que haces, todos tenemos una vida afuera de yt, mi comentario no fue a modo de reclamo, solo fue una sugerencia ya que tiene un buen canal y tiene potencial, saludos.
im currently having i7 3770 with 16gb ddr3, should i upgrade to i7 4770/4790 or to ryzen 5 2600?
Don't bother upgrading to 4th gen, you won't notice a huge difference.
@@RATechYT oh but what if i upgrade to gen 4 just for nvme is it ok?
@@rengoku2915 That's totally up to you.
This is hard to recommend even on a tight budget... if you already have an old DDR3 system and you have to upgrade memory, MB and CPU... why buy a Ryzen 5 2600 when a 12100 (or 12100F) is so damn cheap and would blow the Ryzen 5 2600 completely out of the water.
I think that's a crazy recommendation considering how affordable the 12100 is for a cheap budget build.
I don't recommend the R5 2600 though. This video only shows whether it is worth the upgrade, not that you should get the Ryzen processor.
@@RATechYT "worth the upgrade" with tons of testing was my whole point. Why bother speaking of having to switch out MB, CPU and memory when something so cheap and blatantly more powerful than the R5 2600 (in the 12100) exists?
This video should be 30 seconds long... "when doing an entire MB/CPU/memory budget build upgrade, should you consider the R5 2600?
No, are you crazy, just do what every other budget build does (for a good reason) and get a 12100 build!
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@@wolfshanze5980 That's... definitely an interesting take on the video.
I'll tell you this though, these are the components that I had. And I (just like about 2000 people who watched this video) was curious about how they would stack up. So I did all of the testing, came up to a conclusion and decided to make a video about it and share it - simple as that really.
Did you know that this is how they would compare? If yes - good for you! I personally didn't know how big the difference would be and I'm assuming majority who watched this video didn't either.
For example I recently upgraded from an ancient 60 Hz screen to a 165 Hz one, and I'd love to share my experience about it to show how big the difference is between them, even though it should be obvious to most that the new screen is going to be much better across the board.
Finally, you weren't obligated to watch this video at all, you could've just listened to the conclusion and closed the tab. *Problem solved*
Don't get me wrong, your argument just doesn't make sense.
Muito interessante esse comparativo. Mas não vou mostrar para os meu clientes. Eu tenho os dois processadores e público para os dois. Muitas vezes tem aquele que já tem o i7 4790k e quer mudar para um ryzen5 somente por vaidade moral. Como sou comerciante e preciso de dinheiro... vou no que ele quer e sou bem convincente .
Bem ao menos eles tem uma plataforma mais nova - AM4 - que possibilita um bom upgrade: R7 5800X3D (Muito bom para jogos) ou R9 5900X/5950X (Muito bom para produtividade)
Why are you comparing CPUs 4years apart in age?
In case you might want to upgrade to something more recent. And because why not.
Any one going the amd way check out the msi x570 pro a mobo you can pick them up for under 100 buck and support every ryzen cpu on the am4 chipset I use it in all my amd flips and it the board I daily drive
Great video but I would like to see a comparison with overclocked and tuned 2600 to show how much you can gain and with a better GPU 😜 also maybe add extra few games
Might do that once I get a 4790k with a Z87 board!
4790K will be closer, especially with a little overclock.
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The 4790 is being memory bottlenecked. There's already been numerous benchmarks with a 2133/2400 being faster in gaming than the 1600x/2600.
Yes, overclocking the memory as well as the CPU would help a lot. Thinking of getting a 4770k/4790k and a z87 board in the future just for that.
@@RATechYT Even with stock you'd get a difference . Also populate all 4 ram slots it helps.
A 4790k can pretty much close that gap, I wouldn't recommend anybody upgrade to a R5 2600, need to go bigger
If it wasn't for AMD we'd Probably still be sitting on 4c 8t intel CPU's
Yeah...if it weren't for those AMD Ryzen today the Intel i3 10100/10100F and i3 12100/12100F would only have 2 cores/4 threads. xD
Think i'd rather have x99 and 6950x than r5 1600 AF. Just about the same price now too lol
That setup would cost more though - the 6950X is being sold for about $109 on ebay, and a decent board such as the Gigabyte X99-UD3P can be found for about $93, which would already be $58 more expensive. At that point you're better off going for the 3900X + B350 or B450, which would in fact cost you about the same as going for the X99 platform.
@@RATechYT I can't find a 3900x that cheap. Otherwise that'd be a great strategy. Where can you find them that cheap? Not on Ebay, that's for sure. They average $250 there. So that would be $100 more all total. The route I suggested was the same price as a 1600af and a b350 at current market prices.
@@Trick-Framed My bad, the ones that I saw were bids. They cost $140 and $160 respectively with shipping, though if you want to buy one without bidding that would cost at least $220 indeed.
It looks like the 2680 v3 would be an even better bang for the buck. It's 22nm's, has 12 cores and 24 threads and they're being sold for $25. Actually thinking of getting one.
no hate, but you say that the 2600 is more recognizable than the 1600af... and that's not right, a lot of people uses the 1600af!
Yes, a lot of people do use the 1600 AF, but the amount is definitely much lower compared to 2600. The 1600 AF was also released quietly, so I'm sure that the majority of average users never even heard of it.
@@RATechYT i think it's country based, because here in Argentina we all know the 1600af because is cheaper an literally the same processor
Switching to ryzen 5 5700x was the best choice i ever made, That was £150, After being on a 3820 i7 quadcore 3.6ghz after many years lol 😉 , o RA TECH, I am also on MSI , I have an MSI B550 motherboard, It's an awesome motherboard for value and performance for what it offers, Great video too by the way
My problem with the i7 is the motherboard. Its pretty hard to find something like z97 nowadays. And even if I found one, they are so expensive.
You can find decent Z87 boards starting from around $60 on Ebay.
Am still rocking a I7 4790 such a good chip can't believe its been 8 years imagine saying to someone in the early 2000s ye my cpu will last almost 10 years
It could be said the same for the likes of an HD 7970, a 2012 GPU that still can run 2022 games. For example a GeForce 4 GPU - from 2002 - would never run a game from 2012!
AM5 upgrade will blow your mind
@@GTFour Probably with an R7 7800X3D
Held my 478 celeron laptop up to 2015.
lol im using 4790, and get 130-150 fps at battlefield 5, and 100-120 fps at battlefield 2042
You are used ryzen 5 1600 NOT ryzen 5 2600
R5 1600 AF is the same thing as a R5 2600. I explain that at 1:24.
@@laozhuang2023 It has a 200 MHz turbo advantage over my 1600 AF. That will result in less than 5% improvement.
why does he keep saying its a R5 2600 when it's clearly an R5 1600?
It's a 1600 AF, which is a slightly lower clocked R5 2600. I explain that at 1:18.
The man has already answered you, but I will tell you one thing, at the end of the day an R5 1600AE, R5 1600X, R5 1600AF, R5 2600 or an R5 2600X are the same thing, there is not much difference between them if they work at 4Ghz or thereabouts, even if you take an R5 2600/2600X to 4.3Ghz it will not turn it into a stock R5 3600/3600X, so in the end those R5 2600/2600X are still closer to an R5 1600AE/AF/1600X.
It is like an RX 580 vs RX 480, there the RX 580 has a little more performance than the RX 480, but it does not perform much more to convert it into a Vega56, Vega64 or an RX 5600XT.
i7 is crippled by that ram
Isn't it possible that the 1070 could be bottlenecking these tests.
You can learn that by checking the GPU utilization. In most cases it's not bottlenecking.
Ryzen 5600 is cheap now. Not worth going for 2600.
Where is the RTX2070? 😜
I didn't have it when I was working on this video unfortunately. I'll most likely show it in the next video!
It's time to upgrade those little buddies (4th gen) and to give those systems to grandma or to 8yo son.
AM4 is the way to go for bang for the buck.
I grabed a b450 Asrock mobo for 80$ CAN on black friday, and a Ryzen 5 5600 for 175$ CAN (the 5500 was 129$ CAN!! It was a good deal). DDR4 is cheap now. This system was for a friend.
I'm done bothering with 2014/2018 flagships now. Not worth it anymore. 😊
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While the 4th gen i7 is still very decent, you have to factor in the limitations of the platform. You are stuck with DDR3 Ram and m.2 Nvme SSD's are not supported. Now I have seen some motherboards that had a m.2 Sata slot with 4 Sata lanes, but you still have to find an old m.2 Sata SSD which is very rare these days. So realistically you are stuck with a single lane Sata SSD.
So, basically i7 4790 is still leads, and shows us, what 10yo cpu can do
My i7 4790k is better 😎
mine is too but tha thing is a better upgrade is a 5800X3D
OMG you are upgrade for nothing and
and 4790 is run better than 2nd ryzen 2700x
@@jmtake85 Thanks for the info!