Great lesson as usual Justin. Following you for years. You are the best guitar teacher on the internet. It’s one thing to say the minor has a flat third but so clear the way you showed it on the fretboard today. Thank you as always.
I think the reason for not having a Cmin and Gmin open chords is that the third for them are E and B respective, which are the open strings. You can't lower an open string so no way to form a minor chord.
Justin, when I was at school, many many years ago, I’d be looking out of the window because I wasn’t interested, but I’m really interested in music theory, but to be honest it goes over my head, I feel like someone who’s dyslexic but in a musical way, drives me nuts.
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So cool to know music theory. If I forget what Asus2 or E7 chords look like I just find the notes I need and think what is the most comfortable way to finger 'em
whcih finger positions? my guess is first on B1 then second finger back on fret on D1 third on A3 and the pinky supposed to go on e3 ??? gonna try it later but i dont think its manageable. youre basically making like a square shape
@@ShadowD2C It was certainly tricky! I kind of made a regular c major shape, bent my ring finger back from E on the D string to E flat, and got the top G with my pinky. It's _possible_ but not really _practical..._
You can always do a n 'Am' shape on the 4th fret, use your index finger for the C note on the 'A' string, and arch your hand up, so it is not a full Bar chord, you just have to mute the low E and high E strings. This is a usable C minor!
I wondered the same thing bout there not being a conventional C minor and G minor shapes in open position. But if Cm is straight up impossible I found Gm shape manageable. Love the maths of music theory
Cmin in open position is actually doable if you mute the thinnest string(kinda awkward but managable) or play G on it(doable, but totally unpractical).
So, i think I saw Rick Beato say something like "don't double up on the third" - which happens in many open G and C fingerings. He didn't give a reason, but i figure it's so you can move one finger/note from major to get minor/sus2/sus4? Or is there another reason?
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When creating a c minor in an open position, It's impossible to use the high and low E strings. This is because the 3rd (which is E flat) is not found in the open position. The nearest is at the 11th fret, which is an impossible stretch. Of course you could tune them down, but that creates more problems than it would solve. A similar problem happens when you try to add the B flat to make the G minor.
but we mute the Low E anyways when playing C, couldnt we just try to mute the high E as well and try to move second finger on the D string one fret ? if we could that would be a valid c minor chord right ? so the answer is basically because we cant make that shape, is this correct?
What you describe is a fundamental. Available in open positions are minor chords are Dm, Em, Am. Others require a barre. Also, available in open position are major chords are C, A, G, E, D ... which gives rise to the CAGED system. Cheers 😊 | close2u | JustinGuitar Official Guide [ www.justinguitar.com/ ] & Moderator on JustinGuitar Forum
I gave up from guitar. After 2,5 month i learn to play clean Dust in the wind , than two days later not clean again , than after half hour of warm up clean again , than one day later nor clean again and that goes round and around for 1 month , than i switch to Ibanez V50NJP with much nerow guitar neck than my last one , and sudenly i have problem with A major chord in that song couse on my last guitar i land with my thumb around the neck on that chord but on this ibanez i land with my thumb bh neck and i know that dosent make sense but just on that song that a major chord killing my brain couse now i have to land with thumb bh neck couse when i land with thumb around the neck that nerow neck stops me from using a a major chord but only in that song on that fast switch before ( i close my ayes ) I learned travis picking , a,b, c, d ,b ,g , sus chords , cad9 ,f bars , major , minor chords , Petathonic scale pattern 1 and 2 , some major scales and all that and more i learnd realy good , and i dont have cash to go in guitar store and chose guitar with neck that suits me . And after practicing 4+ hours a day i just brake couse that a major chord that usualy i can switch fast with my ayes closed from any part of the neck. Sry for my english. omg i wrote a book
I feel your struggle man, Ive been struggling with a song for two months now. but I think just have patience and slowly your fingers will get it on their own
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I just got interested in your course. It seems very structured and complete. Very nice. This video here is totally different. A "please click me title", but no information what the content is about. :-( And then you explain just the difference between major and minor. Sorry, you're doing your viewers -- and also in the end yourself -- a disservice by not communicating open what you'll cover. That's nurturing wasting your viewers time and let one be less interested in your course, paid or free. And of course one can play minor G in an open position, just use a tuning which is suited to that. Joni Mitchell's music would not be what it is without her discovering nice open tunings! :-)
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Great lesson as usual Justin. Following you for years. You are the best guitar teacher on the internet. It’s one thing to say the minor has a flat third but so clear the way you showed it on the fretboard today. Thank you as always.
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I think the reason for not having a Cmin and Gmin open chords is that the third for them are E and B respective, which are the open strings. You can't lower an open string so no way to form a minor chord.
This helps thank you I was taught don’t make a major a minor. Now I see why
Justin, when I was at school, many many years ago, I’d be looking out of the window because I wasn’t interested, but I’m really interested in music theory, but to be honest it goes over my head, I feel like someone who’s dyslexic but in a musical way, drives me nuts.
Are you on this: www.justinguitar.com/classes/practical-fast-fun-music-theory
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In 8 mins. you showed me the way Justin 🙂
So cool to know music theory. If I forget what Asus2 or E7 chords look like I just find the notes I need and think what is the most comfortable way to finger 'em
You can _sort_ of play C minor in open position, but you need very long, flexible fingers!
Ex
A3
D1
G0
B1
e3
Actually, it's just about possible to play Gm in open position, too. Again tricky, however...
E3
A1
D0
G0
B3
e3
whcih finger positions? my guess is first on B1 then second finger back on fret on D1 third on A3 and the pinky supposed to go on e3 ??? gonna try it later but i dont think its manageable. youre basically making like a square shape
@@ShadowD2C It was certainly tricky! I kind of made a regular c major shape, bent my ring finger back from E on the D string to E flat, and got the top G with my pinky.
It's _possible_ but not really _practical..._
You can always do a n 'Am' shape on the 4th fret, use your index finger for the C note on the 'A' string, and arch your hand up, so it is not a full Bar chord, you just have to mute the low E and high E strings. This is a usable C minor!
Thanks Justin..Great lesson as always..Take care
I wondered the same thing bout there not being a conventional C minor and G minor shapes in open position. But if Cm is straight up impossible I found Gm shape manageable. Love the maths of music theory
Cmin in open position is actually doable if you mute the thinnest string(kinda awkward but managable) or play G on it(doable, but totally unpractical).
Wonderful lesson, thanks. Loves me some triads
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Great explanation!
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Thanks!
So, i think I saw Rick Beato say something like "don't double up on the third" - which happens in many open G and C fingerings. He didn't give a reason, but i figure it's so you can move one finger/note from major to get minor/sus2/sus4? Or is there another reason?
Not sure what Rick meant though your suggestions seem good. Perhaps too because it muddies the sound.
Cheers 😊
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@@justinguitar Yes, especially if the 3rd is in the bass register, as with the standard G chord, you don't really need that B note!
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When creating a c minor in an open position, It's impossible to use the high and low E strings. This is because the 3rd (which is E flat) is not found in the open position. The nearest is at the 11th fret, which is an impossible stretch. Of course you could tune them down, but that creates more problems than it would solve. A similar problem happens when you try to add the B flat to make the G minor.
but we mute the Low E anyways when playing C, couldnt we just try to mute the high E as well and try to move second finger on the D string one fret ? if we could that would be a valid c minor chord right ?
so the answer is basically because we cant make that shape, is this correct?
@@ShadowD2C Yeah pretty much. You can arpeggiate it that way, but as a chord shape it's not very ergonomic. Especially when there's a much easier way
What you describe is a fundamental. Available in open positions are minor chords are Dm, Em, Am. Others require a barre. Also, available in open position are major chords are C, A, G, E, D ... which gives rise to the CAGED system.
Cheers 😊
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@@justinguitar Good to know I am on the right track. Yours was a much better explanation. Thanks for the reply
The trick to play open Cm is to use the following fingering x3x043 (xIxoMR)
I gave up from guitar. After 2,5 month i learn to play clean Dust in the wind , than two days later not clean again , than after half hour of warm up clean again , than one day later nor clean again and that goes round and around for 1 month , than i switch to Ibanez V50NJP with much nerow guitar neck than my last one , and sudenly i have problem with A major chord in that song couse on my last guitar i land with my thumb around the neck on that chord but on this ibanez i land with my thumb bh neck and i know that dosent make sense but just on that song that a major chord killing my brain couse now i have to land with thumb bh neck couse when i land with thumb around the neck that nerow neck stops me from using a a major chord but only in that song on that fast switch before ( i close my ayes ) I learned travis picking , a,b, c, d ,b ,g , sus chords , cad9 ,f bars , major , minor chords , Petathonic scale pattern 1 and 2 , some major scales and all that and more i learnd realy good , and i dont have cash to go in guitar store and chose guitar with neck that suits me . And after practicing 4+ hours a day i just brake couse that a major chord that usualy i can switch fast with my ayes closed from any part of the neck. Sry for my english. omg i wrote a book
I feel your struggle man, Ive been struggling with a song for two months now. but I think just have patience and slowly your fingers will get it on their own
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A ha! A barre chord is an F chord shape with a power chord shape on top for the bass. And an F chord is just a C chord with an extra root note.
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On my chord chart though there is a Cm and Gm by flattening the 3rd.
I just got interested in your course. It seems very structured and complete. Very nice.
This video here is totally different. A "please click me title", but no information what the content is about. :-( And then you explain just the difference between major and minor. Sorry, you're doing your viewers -- and also in the end yourself -- a disservice by not communicating open what you'll cover. That's nurturing wasting your viewers time and let one be less interested in your course, paid or free.
And of course one can play minor G in an open position, just use a tuning which is suited to that. Joni Mitchell's music would not be what it is without her discovering nice open tunings! :-)
Hi Nick. Thanks for the positive critical feedback. Justin has over many years consciously looked to avoid going the path of click bait titles with click bait content. The structure you mention - if anyone is not aware - is laid out here: www.justinguitar.com/site-map-and-lesson-structure I think it fair to say that 99% of his content and videos are on point and avoid the usual click bait traps of promising everything and delivering little. If occasionally you Justin does title a video with something to attract views then it is not the norm. I hope you and others continue to recognise the value of what he provides - even if occasionally you think he strays slightly from his usual standard.
Cheers 😊
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@@justinguitar Thanks for the detailed answer. Appreciated!
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