@@CardMasterBrian Goat format doesn't have official tournaments. Speed Duels do. There are official Speed Duel side events happening in just a few days at the NA Extravaganza.
I think what they needed to do was just make Speed Duels the exact same as Duel Links and like you said on a previous video they should add codes in the physical product that gives you stuff in Duel Links, that way they could promote both brands together
speed duels were a tcg exclusive, duel links is konami ocg led & konami ocg don't even put product codes in their main set releases, just promo cards that do nothing other than look ok
The reason I played Speed Duels was because I prefer playing paper over online, and Duel Links has a very predatory gatcha system. I also preferred the card design in Speed Duels, as it seemed to focus more on the iconic cards; Serpent Night Dragon and Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth were top tier, and the skills were designed around them. I think more games should try and learn from the more consumer friendly system that Legends of Runeterra has, but perhaps there isn't as much money in letting people outright buy singles for a fair price.
The battle city box is sold out in a lot of card shops in Toronto. I think its a good product for players coming back to the game who have no interest in playing catch up with the last 15 years or so of summoning and card text.
Speed Duels are the only reason I'm even interested in Yugioh for the first time in 12 years. The simplicity makes the game approachable and more fun because you don't have to consider 10+ years of cards to collect and stay competitive. I hope it lives on post-covid. I spent a few hundred dollars and was able to basically construct all of the decks I could think of with the existing sets. That's impossible with the regular game.
At the very least, the Battle City Box provides a time capsule of classic Yu-Gi-Oh that is entirely self-contained, able to be played like a traditional board game. Using cubeamajig deck boxes and card sleeves, it becomes a nice product to bust out for some casual fun. As for fixing speed duels, honestly at this point the only thing I could see being worthwhile is integrating speed duel cards into main sets and deck releases, being printed on select cards. Everyone hates War Rock and the Ice barrier structure deck is looking grim, but what if some of the cards were speed duel legal? Suddenly war rock is meta? and ice barrier tech cards could be used, even introducing synchros, xyzs, and links that aren't dragoon-tier. Seemingly random choices in reprint sets could introduce format defining cards that would normally see no play in the regular format. It would at least justify our products coming later than the OCG, having to decide which cards get introduced into speed duels. Unfortunately, it seems like rush duels will be our alternative format, but I'll still try it out when we get it.
they already do that with duel links, the trap card massivemorph, skyfang brigade/aka fur hire, witchcrafters, they were all released into the ccg then fast tracked into duel links where they became top tier decks or part of top tier decks, they all currently have presence on the duel lnks F & L list, so kinda ended up being bad for the game used that way anyway, but it's basically been done & continues to be done , & without a 3 month delay, there's plenty of time in the R&D process prior to release to work stuff like that out or even to develop cards specifically for the side product like it seems they did with massivemorph
Hope the Battle City did well, because that's the format i'd like to see it continue with. A self contained set of cards that can be played like its own game.
Speed dueling got me back into yugioh, I think it’ll pick up and definitely know more people playing it. No ones looking for new cards on the daily from them given that there’s so many out already. It’s more of a strategy based game rather than it becoming extremely annoying with regular yu gi oh with endless negates. On top of everything I like that it is nostalgic and is unique in the way that it’s speed dueling and not the regular style based on so much knowledge that many have not kept up with.
Couldn’t agree more. When it first came out, of course they weren’t going to put in the best cards right off the bat which made me realize how pricy the booster packs/boxes were ONLY to get a ton of old printed cards that are literally worth 10-50 cents a card. 😐😐 that turned me away from the start.
@@JohnnyVasquez8 I would have liked for the game to have a 'reverse banlist'. You can use the new cards, or, you can use your old copies of the cards, but only ones that have already been printed in speed duel products.
@@Stinkoman87 I feel like human beings should of just enforced this.. who cares if the card doesn't say speed duels on it as long as it printed in a legal version your good.
It's not that they don't know how to market. It's that the instant that their product starts doing well they instantly go, "Oh, people are buying this? Let's milk the shit out of and no longer give a shit about whether it's sustainable or not anymore because there will always be whales."
@@andrewmcbride88 don't the box sets come with like 8 decks? Either way. Point stands for single player accessibility. And you know... one being a digital game.
@@PS-oo9of doesn't mean you have to play with all of them at the same time. You get options and variety. Most use the box as tools for building their own decks. It is fair that you can play online 24/7 but it's a different experience. Speed duels is extremely cheap and I'm sure you could find a friend or relative to teach very easily
Fun fact: Speed duels, as we know it, it's a western thing On the OGC Speed Duels can be played with any cards and the only product they released were a Synchro deck and a Link deck. That is a way more intelligent and efficient way to handle the format This is also why Rush duel was created and it's popular there, because it has no "competition" with other products as it will have here with how Speed Duel is handled
@@nunyabiznes33 the synchro and link decks were given to middle schoolers for free and were probably just starter decks. There were no skills and were just reprints
As much as I dislike having to re-buy cards, the cards they are selling for speed duels are actually very good (or nostalgic, depending). And cheap enough that it's not a big deal especially if purchases are spread out instead of binging. In any case, it's more like "how much money are you willing to spend to escape the insane combos and mechanics of the modern game?"
I honestly don't think Speed Duels has a future. When there's already the TCG, Rush Duels, a new Master Duel videogame coming up, a new Rush Duel videogame for the Nintendo Switch soon, and Duel Links.. I don't see a place for it. If people want to have a Speed Duel experience, they'll just play Duel Links like you said especially during these times. Not only is it objectively a better experience (there's tutorials, decklists, auto-build, etc for new players), but you also don't have to be face-to-face to play against people and cards are fairly easy to obtain through pure F2P grinding. There's Ranked, Casual, and Friend duels and the occasional PvP events like KC Cup or Turbo Duel Grand Prix if you wanna play with other people. The Chinese version of Duel Links even introduced a new Guild feature and a new "Monster Gate" where you can challenge a strong monster and even bring a tag partner with you and we can expect these two features to come to the normal Duel Links at some point in the future. There's just no reason to play Speed Duels or buy the products. It doesn't help that you're literally being sold back old cards and you can't even use any of them in any other format because they're only allowed to be used in Speed Duels.
Ikr. Im new coming back to the game after 15 years. I think the fact the cards say speed duel right on makes them look out of place with the rest of the yugioh card history. It looks simple and cheap. Id rather they made different formats. Maybe a singleton format, where deck building is key, because it will make relying on the "HEART of the CARDS" to draw what you need in a singleton, 40 card deck with extra deck, rather than getting your playset of broken combo off cards that make you win turn 1,2, or 3... They need to make a new format or more... eventually. So much can be done to make this game great. To get started, Im building 2 decks right now. My cheap 3x Order of the Spellcasters Endymion deck im sure will beat my 200 dollar Horus/Ultimaya Tzolkin/Hieratics deck... but idc. I play for fun and FLAVOR. Deck building for flavor rather than power is what I care about.
Duel Links has already power-crept away from the nostalgic Yu-Gi-Oh experience I loved it for. Once every competitive deck was a FTK based on wall-of-text cards and three different extra-deck mechanics, I gladly walked away. Speed Duels is still very much the game I remember and love, and it's simple enough that my kids are sharing it with me.
my favorite thing about speed duels was the fact that you could pay $15-20 to grab a 2 pack of speed duels decks that you can play with your friends right away. I had one old yugioh deck but I could never play with friends because it was very hard to find people who still had a complete deck
You mentioned not having Cosmic Cyclone... Speed Duels does have Cosmic Cyclone, it was just added last November. You mentioned that it doesn't make much sense to invest in speed duels, yet the cards in speed duels actually have value. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to invest in Duel Links, as the cards literally have zero value whatsoever. You cannot trade or sell Duel Links cards. You can currently build a complete, Speed Duel meta deck for under $20. There are many single cards in advanced format that cost more than that, that people play 3-ofs. That argument never made sense to me. If money is the problem, Speed Duels is far cheaper than advanced. If money is not a problem, then why use it as an excuse? I completely agree about the booster boxes being rather lame, and the lack of a competitive scene definitely hurt. I honestly believe the biggest issue Speed Duels faced is that the biggest yugitubers brushed it off as a bad product from the beginning, and never really gave it a chance. You guys had a video at the beginning talking about the "problems with speed duels" about two years ago. We've had a rather large unofficial competitive scene, and we'd love it if you and other yugitubers would join some tournies and try the game out on a competitive level. The competitive side of things is really fun, and having big yugitubers advertise it more would definitely help build the community. discord.gg/AsGS7EE
My favorite part of purchasing Speed Duel products was the rerelease of original Duel Monsters Era cards and OCG cards such as Great Mammoth of Goldvine and Snake Hair. Useless cards but great as a fan of those types of cards seen in the anime and very early Yu-Gi-Oh video games
I don't mind Speed Duels for teaching beginners because I keep it in its preassembled SDs but play with the regular rules. (Like 5 monster/spell zones, draw 5, etc.) The reason for this is the cards are very simple compared to current Yugioh and I find it is very easy to attempt to make a simple deck for beginners and have it get blown way out of proportion just because of the huge card pool in the original. I love playing Speed Duels with my 6 year old daughter. She actually quite often beats me just because I have no luck. Lol!
@@teamatk4game698 it's "freemium". Free if you grind for gems, which takes hours upon hours but inevitably you gotta buy cards to keep up with the online meta.
Back in 2019, in the beforetimes, the only people who played speed duels were three Yu-Gi-Oh players who were well known in that locals for having given up regular Yugioh some time in 2016. In three seperate game stores nearby, those three guys at that one spot were the only ones who had any interest in paper Duel Links.
This is why I just use my current real cards if ever I do speed duels. Also, depending on who I'm playing, we won't even reduce our deck sizes. We never got the support for turbo duels. We barely got any cards for action duels. Then, as you said, we got crappy support for speed duels.
Its a shame, I really like speed duels :( love the new rarities and stuff, and don't really care for rush duels that much, I understand why the cards look different, but that takes me out of it a little, it feels like a bigger departure from the Master rule, when speed duel felt like and older format but with a twist
Accessibility is such a relative term. What is more accesible: a. Building a Tier 1 TCG Advanced Deck 100% how you want it b. Building a Tier 1 Duel Links deck 100% how you want it c. Building a Tier 1 Speed Duel deck 100% how you want it The answer isnt Duel Links, because yes gems are free, but to keep up with the meta, you will have to resort to microtransactions. Selection Boxes are a huge cash grab.
not true in the slightest. many of the mini boxes have provided complete, competitive kog worthy even top tier decks in the past even if some of them fell off, there will be more in the future. look at Ritual Beast or Triamid. some main boxes also have complete decks floating around the SR or lower mark like Fur Hire and Lunalight that are cheap and easy to build and still just as competitive.
@@lilsunny7399 I get that and I guess in a sense Duel Links has at times been free to play. I also get that you can compete with free decks even if you don't end up winning as much as you wanted. KOG is a nice goal that a lot of decks can reach, but if you compare the Speed Duel competitive, you have to compare to events such as Duel Links Meta. So considering wanting to win big tournaments as your goal for both Speed Duels and Duel Links, consider this: The most expensive best deck of the format in Speed Duel has costed less than $100. In Duel Links, such decks require money (no longer free to play), and sometimes require more money than Speed Duels. Speed Duels has the option to buy singles that are sometimes super cheap. Duel Links requires timely grind and a credit card. Dkayed even said that a card in a box can potentially cost you around 100 dollars if unlucky with the box. There is no such thing in Speed Duels. And in Speed Duels, the expensive cards are few. You can still buy 10 cents cards to 1 dollar cards. You don't need to spend gems and credit cars money to get trash cards like trying to get a Limit Reverse in Duel Links. Most cards are very cheap. I do understand ur point and I guess that in some scenarios Duel Links can be cheaper. But on the bigger picture, I would say no.
@@lilsunny7399 One more thing. Speed Duel is more free than Duel Links if you are one of the players who play on DuelingBook. So many ppl play there and never spent a cent in the game.
I like speed duels, a lot of friends that dropped it in middle/high school can jump back in for casual fun. And when I described it they were like “oh it’s like the anime but with 3 columns”
If they don't axe it after the Battle City box I can see them moving on to GX era. You do get some old nostalgic cards but they're not much use outside of Speed Duels.
Honestly it looks like there was more effort put in rush duels and from what I played I definitely prefer rush duels over speed duels. All we need now is to get them in the west
I think the Battle City Box was also an issue. They should have just individually had the decks prebuilt, but they didn't. It was just given as a random bunch of cards and a list of how to build them. And the cards; it wasn't the classic Blue Eyes and Dark Magician, which disappointed my brother who was hoping to get back in. That kinda killed some of the nostalgia.
'.' the issue with GOAT is some decks are rather not enjoyable to play against, I don't want a game to end in 1 or 2 turns because my opponent's playing a high roll deck and drew well, even though standard decks have a very fair chance vs BS, having to play vs BS isn't fun whoever wins when you're the one on standard
having to use the "speed duel" specific watermarked versions of cards is a ludicrous requirement and any tournament that tries to enforce that deserves to fail lmao
That would actually be pretty cool, but I think it would have had to release during the 5Ds era. I loved how they tried to balance spells with costs, but Speed Duels instead tries to balance the spells by not releasing too many of the OP spells.
@@mychemicalrobert I'd argue it'd be better especially today. If you think about it: Sure we won't be riding motorcycles, but think of all the cool stuff that could be implemented. Heck with some of the Turbo dueling spells, a lot of cards could be fixed with said spell. For example, Harpie's Feather duster could be bumped to two or three for as long as you gave it a 12 speed counter requirement.
@@TheRoseReaper I definitely like the speed counter concept. If they ever did return to it though, I think it would also be cool if they added costs to certain Monsters and Traps too.
@@mychemicalrobert Agreed. Although I'll be the first pendulum player to admit that Pendulum monsters are going to be out of the question when it comes to bringing monsters in.
I'm actually planning to see if my wife would get into the game. I think Speed duels are the perfect way to do so, without the baggage of all the BS rule-sets, grueling 10 minute turns, one-turn wins and all that sh*t. This is a great product that Konami came out with
Not only that, an option Konami can do, is instead of having speed duel specific cards, they can have an option to have speed duel rules with regular TCG/OCG cards
I have recently found out speed duels existed with structure decks and I have been dueling on my work breaks with co-workers for about a month now. The format is short enough to get about two duels minimum in per break without all the tilting new meta gameplay. The signature skill card effects are also a nice edition as it really feels like you have a trump card like the anime protagonists have when behind. I hope this new way of dueling doesn't die just after finding out about it :(
For me, re-selling old cards is the best part! You get to play what’s called “Old Yugioh” and actually enjoy the game again without dealing with single turn victories. (I am against “modern yugioh”, I don’t like the complexity)
I got a battle city box, haven't played yugioh since 2005 just off random decks I made from packs vs my bro. I love having the decks from the show, it's awesome, sad it didn't take off
I saw speed duels as an attempt to cash in on the resurgence of the original anime on Netflix. The modern tcg would be impenetrable for a new generation trying to emulate yugi and kaiba.
I’m Sure it well not only because of the now current Yugioh 7 Anime but also it’s a Different enough game. And as of right now there is no Mobil App Based or a Copy of ‘Rush Duals’ that I know of currently
@@windsonma8209 There is a Rush Duel video game in development currently for Switch.I think that now Konami will probably promote Rush Duels in the animes moving forward and master duels will be in the manga.
one thing i think you failed to mention is that speed duels best caters to that yugioh consumer who loved the game as a kid but hasn't picked it up since it got too "complicated". This simplified strategy with no links or pendulums is what peaks the interest of the OG DM-era duelist. Someone who probably hasn't thought of yugioh for years could pick up the battle city box and keep it next to their cards against humanity and monopoly on their game shelf. I have not played yugioh since 2012 and randomly got into duel links. one month later i've logged in to play every day and love that its a way to play yugioh in a general sense. I would totally get the battle city box just to teach my friends how to play for a game night, but having that said this limits my interest to casual play only and i would not spend a dime on speed duel cards otherwise.
Real talk, I played speed duels with my regular cards and I introduced my friend to it like that and we both know have 2 different advanced format decks
@Team APS Plus: Eventually speed duel will become just as bad as the normal kind of duel, because of synchro, Xyz, and pendulum, however it will not be as bad, because of the short field, but it can become close to becoming bad, in duel links their is already pendulum monster in does speed duel, and pendulum monster consistantly FTK the opponent in speed duel, well they did add a rules to ballance the pendulum monster, in speed duel if a pendulum monster is face-up in the extra deck, you can only pendulum summoned, and/or special summoned that monster from the Extra deck once per turn. If you Xyz summoned an Xyz pendulum you don't follow the once per turn rules since in that case the pendulum monster was face-down in the Extra deck, the same if he is special summoned from the Extra deck while face-down in the extra deck the pendulum monster will not follow the once per turn rules.
I love speed duels. I prefer it over traditional. I had to sell all my old cards earlier this year to get by, so I dont mind buying old reprinted cards personally. I feel the majority of players who play traditional don’t even wanna give speed duels a shot, so I feel like if Konami makes a new speed duel box and puts in secret rare cards that have only ever had 1 printing like Air Neos, then the box would sell instantly and give people more reason to give speed duels a shot.
So where did they go wrong? Marketing for sure. OCG deciding they wouldn't support it was also a big hit to them. And content creators for advanced also barely showed interest, so much so that speed duel relies on its own small yugitube community. And its biggest flaw, it didn't offer an official comp scene, giant cards are $1000 tournaments, but only at YCS and with nothing in between. Luckily, the speed duel community took this into their own hands and host their own tournaments constantly, most online. Recently even a live tournament with 100+ players and a $500 prize pool. So it definitely made big mistakes hindering its own chance of success. However, a lot of critiques is imo also unjustified. It's not a new game. It isn't trying to be. It's an alternative format like modern, standard, commander, etc are to MtG. I also hear a lot of complaints about being able to play your old yugioh copies of a speed duel card and I get where people come from, but would you rather have them go the rush duel route and reprint some classic cards and just have you buy the exact same card, but with a different name and image that you can't use in advanced? They would have sold you something either way. Speed Duel decks also almost never cost more than like $30 for a complete competitive deck, which is the equivalent of being able to join the comp scene after buying 3 starters, but most cost even less than that. And we have many skills DL doesn't have. None of the comp used skills are available in DL.
But I do like his point about reselling of old cards... I didn't even realize that you were only allowed to use Speed duel printed cards. That is was unsold me, I was thinking of giving it a shot because the only thing I thought I needed to invest in would be the skill cards. Now that I know you have to use the actual speed printed cards, forget it. I do think that Konami should start supporting different formats too. Just like how Magic has Modern and Vintage etc. For me being a player that just got back into the game after a few years, I really took to Goat Format (even though its unofficial) :)
I mean, you can still play non-official copies while playing with friends. You just can't join official tournament, but neither can you play official goat tournaments. Speed Duel tournaments are also online atm anyway.
hey, dude, you talk very well. I'm from Brazil and like your work so much. Moreover, I learn a lot watching you (about yu-gi-oh and about English), then I thanks you for this. Don't stop your marvellous work.
I'm gonna miss the speed duel card quality, the holos look so nice for speed duels and its cool having chase cards in sets be cards like magician of black choas
I honestly think they should have just made Speed Duels just classic basic Yugioh. Just recreate the original Starter Decks. And make cards allowed in Speed Duels always have that mark, even if found in a booster pack or Structure Deck.
I think of Speed Duels had retrained or released new cars along with the old cards, it would have done much better, but the thing is, Konami can never overcome their own wall of having a *Free* alternative to the game in Duel Links
First of off I Agree with ‘Dzeeff’ when he said that the one advantage of playing Physical Verses Digital is that, Yes ‘Speed Duals’ is Basically ‘Dual Links’ but in real life. But the only Advantages that ‘Speed Duals’ have over ‘Dual Links’ that The Cards that you Pay are Forever, just in case for whatever the reasons Konami stops Supporting ‘Dual Links’ than all of the Cards and Achievements that you have Earn in Game are now gone with ‘Speed Duals’ you don’t have to worry about that, and there are a few other things he said in his ‘Digital V Physical’ video that escape me right now. And with that said, I have a Strong Feeling that as soon as ‘Rush Duals’ comes out for us it would easily Replace ‘Speed Duals’. The Biggest Mistakes that I think Konami made with ‘Speed Duals’ are the First is they make it Feel Like At Least to Me anyways, they make feel like all they are selling with ‘Speed Duals’ are the ‘Skill Cards’. Instead of an Entire New Card Game Based on the Yugioh Card Game. Any ways the Second is that they Don’t even try to make it feel deferent from ‘Dual Links’. The Third is that to me at First it I think even now it just Feels again to me that Not All of Decks are made Equal when using as is. And what I mean about that is that One Deck could be Way Much Stronger then another by like a lot. And the Fourth and probably the Final Reason is that ‘Speed Duals’ just simply feels way too slow compared to the ‘Master Dual’ with understandable reasons, and the ‘Old School Slow Play’ may not be everyone’s Cup of Tea especially for those that didn’t knew Yugioh Existed until the Zexal Era or whatever. Again with Understandable Reasons. Along with on top of everything that was said in this Vide.
1 year later And we are still speed dueling. Plus the gx box dropped. Unfortunately Paul this opinion didn't age well. Love your content though never stop
not sure where you are, but at all the stores ive been too, tons of speed duel starter decks and boxes while Pokemon and other yugioh products are completely sold out
Konami just got way too greedy trying to re-sell old cards again with the Speed Duel logo. Certainly the format would've been much more popular had regular cards been legal for play. Surely there was a way to design compelling product (rarity upgrades, reprints of old cards etc.) without forcing people to spend 10 bucks on what should be a 10 cent common. The latest box seems a lot better in that way, but it's probably just too late.
MTG literally already does everything you said with their commander decks and they also include new cards made specifically for the commander format. All Konami had to do was follow what MTG does.
I hope speed duel continues, I play both normal and speed duel but my gf liked duel links and really got into speed duels shes tried normal ygo but hated it, if it does end up flopping she would be so upset
My biggest beef with Speed Duels was the requiring the Speed Duel logo. Like you mentioned they are just reprints that most I already own SEVERAL copies of. If I want to use my SDK-001 Blue-Eyes, I should be able to use my SDK-001 Blue-Eyes. I hadn’t even thought of the fact that commons got reprinted at higher rarities that make those reprints highly valuable
As other viewers have mentioned, the only advantage that Speed Duels had over Duel Links was the ability to buy singles. I'm interested to see how Rush Duels turn out, but I'm not thrilled that the Rush Duel cards are incompatible with the main Yugioh TCG cards.
The limitation of the playing field and hand limits combo sizes and game speed. If that with maybe a cap of special summons or draws per turn, I think it could become a massive format.
Speaking from the "future" Speed Duels are still continuing on especially after the Battle City Boxes positive reception. The only problem I can see so far, aside from the long hiatus between the last products pre-B.C.B, the Battle City Box, and now the GX Duel Academy Box, is that the product base may be just box sets with multiple structure decks now, with expansion box sets coming in the future as we are currently seeing with the GX sets. Which isn't entirely a bad thing, it is introducing more cards and later summoning forms at a decent, yet still kind of slow, pace without going too crazy with releases and new formats and cards, basically introducing long winded and excessive games with strategies like we see in Master Rule now where someone can win on turn one. But at the same time it is limiting the format to various box sets/structure decks which have a set pool of cards all around the range $20 - $40. Again it's still fine, but a part of me questions how long they can keep up with this strategy. Yes you can mix and match cards and strategies in the various structure decks provided, but I would still like the multiple booster packs that we got in the past to maybe add a little more spice, or rather variety, to our decks and strategies. Yes I know the box sets do come with a small pool of cards outside of the constructed decks for that purpose, but as far as I know it's also a set pool of them that you get in each box set, i.e. you and everyone else get the exact same ones in each separate box set, I could be wrong though.
I really liked speed duel it was cool having decks themed off of characters from the show which got us into it playing. Next play popular characters weevil and Rex because they never had an official deck so it was really neat. before it also keep everyone on a neutral playing level the speed duel decks didn’t have a big power creep vs when we played normal Yugioh we had to plan which decks to use because some decks were way to good
I think what could have made Speed Duels as a format work, was taking the idea they already established in Vrains. Maybe expand the limited 1 copy list for speed duel variants. But just shell out more skills and new (not reprinted) Speed Duel cards. Like if you wanted to play a Blackwing deck, you can use your TCG Cards, cut the deck and extra deck to the right deck size and just add a Crow Themed Skill Card. Want to just hop with your old Elemental HERO deck. Just buy a Jaden or Aster Skill card and again trim your deck down and your good to go. Honestly having Links, Xyz, Syncros would have been fine because of the smaller and limited decks, hands and field sizes. They honestly could have just pumped out Skill Cards for Anime Characters of all the different generations or for Specific Archetypes. Charged like $10 a pop for a booster of 3 or 4 Skill cards, and had a ready to go alternative format.
I just got my first speed duel deck so it would be a shame if the format ended. On the other hand: it could be very interesting to know the definitive cardpool like in GOAT format. It could lead to a lot of creativity with what we have.
The only reason i didn't really get into speed duels is because i've gotten so invensted with making competitive decks around cards/ archtypes that i like.
I think the main problem is the marketing. I feel like the people who know about it the most are the people who play the master duels. Which at this point a lot of those people didn't grow up with the series so the character stuff doesn't really appeal to them. And if they're playing competitively they kinda just like what they like and they're not really looking for another way to play. So people who are trying to get into yugioh and older players just don't know it exists or what it's about. I think it sucks that konami started teaming up with content creators to get more info out about their products but never did it with speed duels. Kinda just shows they didn't care.
Speed Duels could be so much better. It sorta gives us another chance for good reprints like D.D. Crow and that Magnet warrior field spell which only had 1 printing at like $20 before the battle city box. Also I think the reason why they gave cards that “Speed Duel” mark is to keep it balanced cause it would be a very long list to see what’s legal and what’s not. And it would be busted if we had a full size library in this game. They could have done 2 things: somehow linked the sealed product with the app, so it would be an extra incentive to keep playing both. Link digital codes for gems and dream tickets for opening sealed stuff. Or produce more events and chances to get the same crazy rarity cards from the app
Like the physical feel? I just picked up a battle city box recently and the card print quality feels significantly better. It's much closer to how the ocg prints stuff. I think this is due to the sheen layering they put on it when adding the speed duel watermark.
I think Speed Duels should have just been more like an LCG and avoided booster boxes entirely. I know that's how Konami like to make their money back, but the R&D department doesn't need to put a lot of work into the game, seeing as almost everything is recycled from Advanced and Duel Links, so it's harder to justify dealing with randomised packs and potential short printing (not sure if they ever did that in SD though). The Battle City box was a great product in terms of value, as it gave you 1 of every card and still had rarity upgrades for whales and the thrill of opening product.
I kind of hoped Speed Duel would have lifted off big. The idea of Speed Duel and deck building could have been so fun. I had this Codarus/Daedulus/Neo-Daedulus Speed Duel deck to start playing because, if it ever reached to that heights in its lifespan, but sadly... that wasn't the case. The only great thing to ever come out of Speed Duel is the rarity bump that some cards would NEVER get, aka SR Enchanting Fitting Room T_T. As for Rush Duels, they seem good, a different game, but again, for me, it kind of seems the opposite of Speed Duel, now you are buying cards you CAN'T use in the main game... it's not bad.. but at least when Speed Duel dies, you can still use your PSCT old cards for now... well, we'll see when we get there!
I don't know if this is true but someone really wanted to kill speed duels in the U.S., there's the lack advertising for it, the over abundance for duel links, and Finally Yu-Gi-Oh Vrains, the Anime that Debut Link Monster also showed some speed duels but it had a hard time coming to the U.S., weird right?
speel duel can be pretty cool because it would be a lot easyer to make pure deck of a lot of different archtypes, the problem is just that it's only the old cards the have been printed
People say Speed Duel is Duel Links IRL, but no. Speed Duel is Duel Links from 2017 IRL. We are already in XYZ era in DL, while Speed Duel didn't even got his first Synchro monster. Is not even old TCG, it's old Duel Links.
Speed duals pretty much died in Australia, no promotions and no locals to play them (no speed dual tournament packs cause I had to order blue eyes from the US). Rush duels look really fun from me watching the OCG, I own RD Blue eyes as part of my collection. The game of RD is fast and fun game with a few twists in the rules of Rush Duels.
Where speed duels went wrong....EVERY DUEL IS A F**** SPEED DUEL. Everything up to GX sure everyone had mostly the same deck, but at least duels took some time
I haven't really gotten into speed dueling due to a lack of interest/marketing. Though I will say it's best selling point would be to help newer players to learn the game. I think if they pushed it in that direction, it may have done a bit better. Like if they had a speed duel tournament for beginners before an actual locals on a weekend or something. Also the lack of 'OTS' packs for it as well.
My buddy looked it up, Battle City box was the last one. Konami is focusing on the new version of "speed duels" that is getting a show and will only be in OCG.
I like speed duels, it has gotten my brother to look at the game again simply because it's ALMOST a return to form of old school YGO. Since I'll most likely be playing with him exclusively I refuse to pay premiums for a card that is stamped for speed duels when I can just purchase it for $1 in standard yu-gi-oh form. I will honestly stick to the speed duel card list but will use regular cards, and I wouldn't fault anyone who chose to do the same, even against me
I agree about being resold the same products but limited to one format, I wouldn't be too fussed if there were a Speed Duel legal list so you can use your collection regardless of origin, with the exception of Skill cards, but not being allowed to use your Speed Duel cards with the old ones because of two words printed on them is ridiculous when it forces you to buy them all over again. At least the designs of Rush Duel cards are visibly different from normal so you can't confuse a normal Blue-Eyes, a Speed Duel Blue-Eyes and a Rush Duel Blue-Eyes, (especially with that Legend stamp on the Rush Duel Blue-Eyes) but only being able to use cards one-way with normal and Speed Duel formats really doesn't make sense.
i can just say that speed duel got me back in yugioh, because of its simplicity and the iconic cards.
Have you tried Goat Format? ... its not an official format but you play using the 2005 Yugioh rules and sets!
@@CardMasterBrian no havent heard of it yet but ill check it out! thanks
@@CardMasterBrian Goat format doesn't have official tournaments. Speed Duels do. There are official Speed Duel side events happening in just a few days at the NA Extravaganza.
@@felixstephanmusic I have a bunch of Goat deck profiles on my channel too :-)
Same here.
I think what they needed to do was just make Speed Duels the exact same as Duel Links and like you said on a previous video they should add codes in the physical product that gives you stuff in Duel Links, that way they could promote both brands together
I agree, except there are skills in Duel Links you can't use irl because they effect rng, but everything besides those skills would still be dank
@@ellietincan6756 yeah like balance
So basically copy Pokemon TCG Online’s format?
@@chaocobojun2098 yes
speed duels were a tcg exclusive, duel links is konami ocg led & konami ocg don't even put product codes in their main set releases, just promo cards that do nothing other than look ok
The reason I played Speed Duels was because I prefer playing paper over online, and Duel Links has a very predatory gatcha system. I also preferred the card design in Speed Duels, as it seemed to focus more on the iconic cards; Serpent Night Dragon and Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth were top tier, and the skills were designed around them.
I think more games should try and learn from the more consumer friendly system that Legends of Runeterra has, but perhaps there isn't as much money in letting people outright buy singles for a fair price.
The issue is that Konami runs the game and it’s Konami so you can’t expect much from them.
The battle city box is sold out in a lot of card shops in Toronto. I think its a good product for players coming back to the game who have no interest in playing catch up with the last 15 years or so of summoning and card text.
Speed Duels are the only reason I'm even interested in Yugioh for the first time in 12 years. The simplicity makes the game approachable and more fun because you don't have to consider 10+ years of cards to collect and stay competitive. I hope it lives on post-covid. I spent a few hundred dollars and was able to basically construct all of the decks I could think of with the existing sets. That's impossible with the regular game.
At the very least, the Battle City Box provides a time capsule of classic Yu-Gi-Oh that is entirely self-contained, able to be played like a traditional board game. Using cubeamajig deck boxes and card sleeves, it becomes a nice product to bust out for some casual fun. As for fixing speed duels, honestly at this point the only thing I could see being worthwhile is integrating speed duel cards into main sets and deck releases, being printed on select cards.
Everyone hates War Rock and the Ice barrier structure deck is looking grim, but what if some of the cards were speed duel legal? Suddenly war rock is meta? and ice barrier tech cards could be used, even introducing synchros, xyzs, and links that aren't dragoon-tier. Seemingly random choices in reprint sets could introduce format defining cards that would normally see no play in the regular format. It would at least justify our products coming later than the OCG, having to decide which cards get introduced into speed duels. Unfortunately, it seems like rush duels will be our alternative format, but I'll still try it out when we get it.
they already do that with duel links, the trap card massivemorph, skyfang brigade/aka fur hire, witchcrafters, they were all released into the ccg then fast tracked into duel links where they became top tier decks or part of top tier decks, they all currently have presence on the duel lnks F & L list, so kinda ended up being bad for the game used that way anyway, but it's basically been done & continues to be done , & without a 3 month delay, there's plenty of time in the R&D process prior to release to work stuff like that out or even to develop cards specifically for the side product like it seems they did with massivemorph
Hope the Battle City did well, because that's the format i'd like to see it continue with. A self contained set of cards that can be played like its own game.
Speed dueling got me back into yugioh, I think it’ll pick up and definitely know more people playing it. No ones looking for new cards on the daily from them given that there’s so many out already. It’s more of a strategy based game rather than it becoming extremely annoying with regular yu gi oh with endless negates. On top of everything I like that it is nostalgic and is unique in the way that it’s speed dueling and not the regular style based on so much knowledge that many have not kept up with.
Completely agree! I love old yugioh with its simplicity and the back and forth, modern yugioh is trash
To me, “resold same cards” is the worst problem of Speed Duels
Couldn’t agree more. When it first came out, of course they weren’t going to put in the best cards right off the bat which made me realize how pricy the booster packs/boxes were ONLY to get a ton of old printed cards that are literally worth 10-50 cents a card. 😐😐 that turned me away from the start.
@@JohnnyVasquez8 I would have liked for the game to have a 'reverse banlist'. You can use the new cards, or, you can use your old copies of the cards, but only ones that have already been printed in speed duel products.
There were some cards that were introduced to the TCG through Speed Duels, though. It needs an exclusive archetype
They're asking us to buy our way out of the mess Konami made of the main game.
@@Stinkoman87 I feel like human beings should of just enforced this.. who cares if the card doesn't say speed duels on it as long as it printed in a legal version your good.
Paul, you've been pumping out these candid conversations a lot! I appreciate that.
I love Speed Duels but Konami doesn't know how to market their products
It's not that they don't know how to market. It's that the instant that their product starts doing well they instantly go, "Oh, people are buying this? Let's milk the shit out of and no longer give a shit about whether it's sustainable or not anymore because there will always be whales."
They have cosmic cyclone etc in speed duel , battle city box released a lot of nice stuff . Speed duels is fun and I hope it picks back up
The best reason to play Speed Duels over Duel Links is the accessibility of the cards via being able to purchase singles.
but one you can play anywhere and the other you need a room full of people
@@PS-oo9of a room full? It's a "duel"
@@andrewmcbride88 don't the box sets come with like 8 decks? Either way. Point stands for single player accessibility. And you know... one being a digital game.
@@PS-oo9of doesn't mean you have to play with all of them at the same time. You get options and variety. Most use the box as tools for building their own decks.
It is fair that you can play online 24/7 but it's a different experience.
Speed duels is extremely cheap and I'm sure you could find a friend or relative to teach very easily
@@PS-oo9of you can play speed duels on duelingbook lol
Fun fact:
Speed duels, as we know it, it's a western thing
On the OGC Speed Duels can be played with any cards and the only product they released were a Synchro deck and a Link deck.
That is a way more intelligent and efficient way to handle the format
This is also why Rush duel was created and it's popular there, because it has no "competition" with other products as it will have here with how Speed Duel is handled
Oh wow it would be cool if speed duels was like that in America
How do the OCG handle the Skill part of Speed Duels? Does OCC Speed Duel even have Skills?
@@nunyabiznes33 the synchro and link decks were given to middle schoolers for free and were probably just starter decks. There were no skills and were just reprints
As much as I dislike having to re-buy cards, the cards they are selling for speed duels are actually very good (or nostalgic, depending). And cheap enough that it's not a big deal especially if purchases are spread out instead of binging. In any case, it's more like "how much money are you willing to spend to escape the insane combos and mechanics of the modern game?"
I like speed duels because it brings the prices down on the singles market
I stopped playing yugioh after XYZ came out and I’ve come back to the game due to speed duels because of the older cards
and then they introduced those lmao
I honestly don't think Speed Duels has a future. When there's already the TCG, Rush Duels, a new Master Duel videogame coming up, a new Rush Duel videogame for the Nintendo Switch soon, and Duel Links.. I don't see a place for it. If people want to have a Speed Duel experience, they'll just play Duel Links like you said especially during these times. Not only is it objectively a better experience (there's tutorials, decklists, auto-build, etc for new players), but you also don't have to be face-to-face to play against people and cards are fairly easy to obtain through pure F2P grinding. There's Ranked, Casual, and Friend duels and the occasional PvP events like KC Cup or Turbo Duel Grand Prix if you wanna play with other people. The Chinese version of Duel Links even introduced a new Guild feature and a new "Monster Gate" where you can challenge a strong monster and even bring a tag partner with you and we can expect these two features to come to the normal Duel Links at some point in the future. There's just no reason to play Speed Duels or buy the products. It doesn't help that you're literally being sold back old cards and you can't even use any of them in any other format because they're only allowed to be used in Speed Duels.
rush duels doesnt exist outside of the ocg, same for speed duels with tcg. so they really dont coexist
Ikr. Im new coming back to the game after 15 years. I think the fact the cards say speed duel right on makes them look out of place with the rest of the yugioh card history. It looks simple and cheap. Id rather they made different formats. Maybe a singleton format, where deck building is key, because it will make relying on the "HEART of the CARDS" to draw what you need in a singleton, 40 card deck with extra deck, rather than getting your playset of broken combo off cards that make you win turn 1,2, or 3...
They need to make a new format or more... eventually. So much can be done to make this game great. To get started, Im building 2 decks right now. My cheap 3x Order of the Spellcasters Endymion deck im sure will beat my 200 dollar Horus/Ultimaya Tzolkin/Hieratics deck... but idc. I play for fun and FLAVOR. Deck building for flavor rather than power is what I care about.
You can use speed duel cards outside of speed duels you just cant bring non speed duel cards into speed duels
Duel Links has already power-crept away from the nostalgic Yu-Gi-Oh experience I loved it for. Once every competitive deck was a FTK based on wall-of-text cards and three different extra-deck mechanics, I gladly walked away. Speed Duels is still very much the game I remember and love, and it's simple enough that my kids are sharing it with me.
@@FrozenG4mes Speed duels is better than Rush duels (Rush looks too messy).
my favorite thing about speed duels was the fact that you could pay $15-20 to grab a 2 pack of speed duels decks that you can play with your friends right away. I had one old yugioh deck but I could never play with friends because it was very hard to find people who still had a complete deck
Needed more promotion for the product!
Speed duels got me back into yugioh and I still play it mainly.
You mentioned not having Cosmic Cyclone... Speed Duels does have Cosmic Cyclone, it was just added last November.
You mentioned that it doesn't make much sense to invest in speed duels, yet the cards in speed duels actually have value. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to invest in Duel Links, as the cards literally have zero value whatsoever. You cannot trade or sell Duel Links cards.
You can currently build a complete, Speed Duel meta deck for under $20. There are many single cards in advanced format that cost more than that, that people play 3-ofs. That argument never made sense to me. If money is the problem, Speed Duels is far cheaper than advanced. If money is not a problem, then why use it as an excuse?
I completely agree about the booster boxes being rather lame, and the lack of a competitive scene definitely hurt. I honestly believe the biggest issue Speed Duels faced is that the biggest yugitubers brushed it off as a bad product from the beginning, and never really gave it a chance. You guys had a video at the beginning talking about the "problems with speed duels" about two years ago. We've had a rather large unofficial competitive scene, and we'd love it if you and other yugitubers would join some tournies and try the game out on a competitive level. The competitive side of things is really fun, and having big yugitubers advertise it more would definitely help build the community.
discord.gg/AsGS7EE
My favorite part of purchasing Speed Duel products was the rerelease of original Duel Monsters Era cards and OCG cards such as Great Mammoth of Goldvine and Snake Hair. Useless cards but great as a fan of those types of cards seen in the anime and very early Yu-Gi-Oh video games
I don't mind Speed Duels for teaching beginners because I keep it in its preassembled SDs but play with the regular rules. (Like 5 monster/spell zones, draw 5, etc.)
The reason for this is the cards are very simple compared to current Yugioh and I find it is very easy to attempt to make a simple deck for beginners and have it get blown way out of proportion just because of the huge card pool in the original.
I love playing Speed Duels with my 6 year old daughter. She actually quite often beats me just because I have no luck. Lol!
I never had any of the cards before and Im having a blast with it- it’s not the smoothest TCG I’ve ever played but it’s pretty darn good.
Speed duels is duel links with cards.
With less cards BTW
It's a lot cheaper than Duel Links tho.
@@luckysevens6852 duel links is free what are u talking about
@@teamatk4game698 it's "freemium". Free if you grind for gems, which takes hours upon hours but inevitably you gotta buy cards to keep up with the online meta.
@@HRAA1337 but it's got a secondary market.
Back in 2019, in the beforetimes, the only people who played speed duels were three Yu-Gi-Oh players who were well known in that locals for having given up regular Yugioh some time in 2016. In three seperate game stores nearby, those three guys at that one spot were the only ones who had any interest in paper Duel Links.
Sounds like a legend or folk tale.
Sounds like a story that would be told in one of the Yu-Gi-Oh shows
I only heard about it recently, and im so sad because as someone who enjoyed old yugioh and wants to get into it again it sounds perfect
This is why I just use my current real cards if ever I do speed duels.
Also, depending on who I'm playing, we won't even reduce our deck sizes.
We never got the support for turbo duels.
We barely got any cards for action duels.
Then, as you said, we got crappy support for speed duels.
Its a shame, I really like speed duels :( love the new rarities and stuff, and don't really care for rush duels that much, I understand why the cards look different, but that takes me out of it a little, it feels like a bigger departure from the Master rule, when speed duel felt like and older format but with a twist
Accessibility is such a relative term. What is more accesible:
a. Building a Tier 1 TCG Advanced Deck 100% how you want it
b. Building a Tier 1 Duel Links deck 100% how you want it
c. Building a Tier 1 Speed Duel deck 100% how you want it
The answer isnt Duel Links, because yes gems are free, but to keep up with the meta, you will have to resort to microtransactions. Selection Boxes are a huge cash grab.
not true in the slightest. many of the mini boxes have provided complete, competitive kog worthy even top tier decks in the past even if some of them fell off, there will be more in the future. look at Ritual Beast or Triamid. some main boxes also have complete decks floating around the SR or lower mark like Fur Hire and Lunalight that are cheap and easy to build and still just as competitive.
@@lilsunny7399 I get that and I guess in a sense Duel Links has at times been free to play. I also get that you can compete with free decks even if you don't end up winning as much as you wanted. KOG is a nice goal that a lot of decks can reach, but if you compare the Speed Duel competitive, you have to compare to events such as Duel Links Meta. So considering wanting to win big tournaments as your goal for both Speed Duels and Duel Links, consider this:
The most expensive best deck of the format in Speed Duel has costed less than $100. In Duel Links, such decks require money (no longer free to play), and sometimes require more money than Speed Duels. Speed Duels has the option to buy singles that are sometimes super cheap. Duel Links requires timely grind and a credit card. Dkayed even said that a card in a box can potentially cost you around 100 dollars if unlucky with the box. There is no such thing in Speed Duels. And in Speed Duels, the expensive cards are few. You can still buy 10 cents cards to 1 dollar cards. You don't need to spend gems and credit cars money to get trash cards like trying to get a Limit Reverse in Duel Links. Most cards are very cheap. I do understand ur point and I guess that in some scenarios Duel Links can be cheaper. But on the bigger picture, I would say no.
@@lilsunny7399 One more thing. Speed Duel is more free than Duel Links if you are one of the players who play on DuelingBook. So many ppl play there and never spent a cent in the game.
I like speed duels, a lot of friends that dropped it in middle/high school can jump back in for casual fun. And when I described it they were like “oh it’s like the anime but with 3 columns”
If they don't axe it after the Battle City box I can see them moving on to GX era. You do get some old nostalgic cards but they're not much use outside of Speed Duels.
Honestly it looks like there was more effort put in rush duels and from what I played I definitely prefer rush duels over speed duels. All we need now is to get them in the west
Bro this channel will blow up in the algorithm and i will be there to see the views going up
I think the Battle City Box was also an issue. They should have just individually had the decks prebuilt, but they didn't. It was just given as a random bunch of cards and a list of how to build them.
And the cards; it wasn't the classic Blue Eyes and Dark Magician, which disappointed my brother who was hoping to get back in. That kinda killed some of the nostalgia.
I think speed duels should be an alternative format for regular yu-gi-oh
When not even EDOPRO bothers to update the Speed Duel skills you know things look bad.
EDOpro has speed duels?
@@colesmith7230 Check Discord.
The other issue with Speed Duels is that people just can play Goat Format which has a much larger community
'.' the issue with GOAT is some decks are rather not enjoyable to play against, I don't want a game to end in 1 or 2 turns because my opponent's playing a high roll deck and drew well, even though standard decks have a very fair chance vs BS, having to play vs BS isn't fun whoever wins when you're the one on standard
Heres my reason to do speed duels over duel links: my eyes go crossed after a few minutes of staring at my phone screen
having to use the "speed duel" specific watermarked versions of cards is a ludicrous requirement and any tournament that tries to enforce that deserves to fail lmao
I feel like Speed Dueling could've been cooler, had they went the route Turbo Dueling with all the speed counters similar to how the 5Ds anime was.
That would actually be pretty cool, but I think it would have had to release during the 5Ds era. I loved how they tried to balance spells with costs, but Speed Duels instead tries to balance the spells by not releasing too many of the OP spells.
@@mychemicalrobert I'd argue it'd be better especially today. If you think about it: Sure we won't be riding motorcycles, but think of all the cool stuff that could be implemented. Heck with some of the Turbo dueling spells, a lot of cards could be fixed with said spell. For example, Harpie's Feather duster could be bumped to two or three for as long as you gave it a 12 speed counter requirement.
@@TheRoseReaper I definitely like the speed counter concept. If they ever did return to it though, I think it would also be cool if they added costs to certain Monsters and Traps too.
@@mychemicalrobert Agreed. Although I'll be the first pendulum player to admit that Pendulum monsters are going to be out of the question when it comes to bringing monsters in.
Speed duels are just basically duelinks irl
Duelinks is basically advanced format on the phone as a gacha game.
This statement is just as accurate as your statement.
I like that they are reprinting old cards for those of us who dont want to drop $200 on an old school structure deck for a beloved character
I'm actually planning to see if my wife would get into the game. I think Speed duels are the perfect way to do so, without the baggage of all the BS rule-sets, grueling 10 minute turns, one-turn wins and all that sh*t. This is a great product that Konami came out with
Not only that, an option Konami can do, is instead of having speed duel specific cards, they can have an option to have speed duel rules with regular TCG/OCG cards
I have recently found out speed duels existed with structure decks and I have been dueling on my work breaks with co-workers for about a month now. The format is short enough to get about two duels minimum in per break without all the tilting new meta gameplay. The signature skill card effects are also a nice edition as it really feels like you have a trump card like the anime protagonists have when behind. I hope this new way of dueling doesn't die just after finding out about it :(
For me, re-selling old cards is the best part! You get to play what’s called “Old Yugioh” and actually enjoy the game again without dealing with single turn victories. (I am against “modern yugioh”, I don’t like the complexity)
I got a battle city box, haven't played yugioh since 2005 just off random decks I made from packs vs my bro. I love having the decks from the show, it's awesome, sad it didn't take off
I saw speed duels as an attempt to cash in on the resurgence of the original anime on Netflix. The modern tcg would be impenetrable for a new generation trying to emulate yugi and kaiba.
If speed duels fail I hope that Rush Duel succeed.
I’m Sure it well not only because of the now current Yugioh 7 Anime but also it’s a Different enough game. And as of right now there is no Mobil App Based or a Copy of ‘Rush Duals’ that I know of currently
@@windsonma8209 There is a Rush Duel video game in development currently for Switch.I think that now Konami will probably promote Rush Duels in the animes moving forward and master duels will be in the manga.
one thing i think you failed to mention is that speed duels best caters to that yugioh consumer who loved the game as a kid but hasn't picked it up since it got too "complicated". This simplified strategy with no links or pendulums is what peaks the interest of the OG DM-era duelist. Someone who probably hasn't thought of yugioh for years could pick up the battle city box and keep it next to their cards against humanity and monopoly on their game shelf. I have not played yugioh since 2012 and randomly got into duel links. one month later i've logged in to play every day and love that its a way to play yugioh in a general sense. I would totally get the battle city box just to teach my friends how to play for a game night, but having that said this limits my interest to casual play only and i would not spend a dime on speed duel cards otherwise.
Real talk, I played speed duels with my regular cards and I introduced my friend to it like that and we both know have 2 different advanced format decks
@Team APS Plus: Eventually speed duel will become just as bad as the normal kind of duel, because of synchro, Xyz, and pendulum, however it will not be as bad, because of the short field, but it can become close to becoming bad, in duel links their is already pendulum monster in does speed duel, and pendulum monster consistantly FTK the opponent in speed duel, well they did add a rules to ballance the pendulum monster, in speed duel if a pendulum monster is face-up in the extra deck, you can only pendulum summoned, and/or special summoned that monster from the Extra deck once per turn. If you Xyz summoned an Xyz pendulum you don't follow the once per turn rules since in that case the pendulum monster was face-down in the Extra deck, the same if he is special summoned from the Extra deck while face-down in the extra deck the pendulum monster will not follow the once per turn rules.
I love speed duels. I prefer it over traditional. I had to sell all my old cards earlier this year to get by, so I dont mind buying old reprinted cards personally. I feel the majority of players who play traditional don’t even wanna give speed duels a shot, so I feel like if Konami makes a new speed duel box and puts in secret rare cards that have only ever had 1 printing like Air Neos, then the box would sell instantly and give people more reason to give speed duels a shot.
So where did they go wrong? Marketing for sure. OCG deciding they wouldn't support it was also a big hit to them. And content creators for advanced also barely showed interest, so much so that speed duel relies on its own small yugitube community. And its biggest flaw, it didn't offer an official comp scene, giant cards are $1000 tournaments, but only at YCS and with nothing in between. Luckily, the speed duel community took this into their own hands and host their own tournaments constantly, most online. Recently even a live tournament with 100+ players and a $500 prize pool. So it definitely made big mistakes hindering its own chance of success. However, a lot of critiques is imo also unjustified. It's not a new game. It isn't trying to be. It's an alternative format like modern, standard, commander, etc are to MtG. I also hear a lot of complaints about being able to play your old yugioh copies of a speed duel card and I get where people come from, but would you rather have them go the rush duel route and reprint some classic cards and just have you buy the exact same card, but with a different name and image that you can't use in advanced? They would have sold you something either way. Speed Duel decks also almost never cost more than like $30 for a complete competitive deck, which is the equivalent of being able to join the comp scene after buying 3 starters, but most cost even less than that. And we have many skills DL doesn't have. None of the comp used skills are available in DL.
But I do like his point about reselling of old cards... I didn't even realize that you were only allowed to use Speed duel printed cards. That is was unsold me, I was thinking of giving it a shot because the only thing I thought I needed to invest in would be the skill cards. Now that I know you have to use the actual speed printed cards, forget it. I do think that Konami should start supporting different formats too. Just like how Magic has Modern and Vintage etc. For me being a player that just got back into the game after a few years, I really took to Goat Format (even though its unofficial) :)
I mean, you can still play non-official copies while playing with friends. You just can't join official tournament, but neither can you play official goat tournaments. Speed Duel tournaments are also online atm anyway.
hey, dude, you talk very well. I'm from Brazil and like your work so much. Moreover, I learn a lot watching you (about yu-gi-oh and about English), then I thanks you for this. Don't stop your marvellous work.
I'm gonna miss the speed duel card quality, the holos look so nice for speed duels and its cool having chase cards in sets be cards like magician of black choas
I honestly think they should have just made Speed Duels just classic basic Yugioh. Just recreate the original Starter Decks. And make cards allowed in Speed Duels always have that mark, even if found in a booster pack or Structure Deck.
Two years later …. Have your thoughts changed ?
I think of Speed Duels had retrained or released new cars along with the old cards, it would have done much better, but the thing is, Konami can never overcome their own wall of having a *Free* alternative to the game in Duel Links
First of off I Agree with ‘Dzeeff’ when he said that the one advantage of playing Physical Verses Digital is that, Yes ‘Speed Duals’ is Basically ‘Dual Links’ but in real life. But the only Advantages that ‘Speed Duals’ have over ‘Dual Links’ that The Cards that you Pay are Forever, just in case for whatever the reasons Konami stops Supporting ‘Dual Links’ than all of the Cards and Achievements that you have Earn in Game are now gone with ‘Speed Duals’ you don’t have to worry about that, and there are a few other things he said in his ‘Digital V Physical’ video that escape me right now. And with that said, I have a Strong Feeling that as soon as ‘Rush Duals’ comes out for us it would easily Replace ‘Speed Duals’. The Biggest Mistakes that I think Konami made with ‘Speed Duals’ are the First is they make it Feel Like At Least to Me anyways, they make feel like all they are selling with ‘Speed Duals’ are the ‘Skill Cards’. Instead of an Entire New Card Game Based on the Yugioh Card Game. Any ways the Second is that they Don’t even try to make it feel deferent from ‘Dual Links’. The Third is that to me at First it I think even now it just Feels again to me that Not All of Decks are made Equal when using as is. And what I mean about that is that One Deck could be Way Much Stronger then another by like a lot. And the Fourth and probably the Final Reason is that ‘Speed Duals’ just simply feels way too slow compared to the ‘Master Dual’ with understandable reasons, and the ‘Old School Slow Play’ may not be everyone’s Cup of Tea especially for those that didn’t knew Yugioh Existed until the Zexal Era or whatever. Again with Understandable Reasons. Along with on top of everything that was said in this Vide.
Pls don’t take this the wrong way, but
Duel. “Dual” denotes two, like dual citizenship. Duel is a fight between two people.
1 year later And we are still speed dueling. Plus the gx box dropped. Unfortunately Paul this opinion didn't age well. Love your content though never stop
Where is all this Speed Duel product laying around? Because they’re basically sold out everywhere.
not sure where you are, but at all the stores ive been too, tons of speed duel starter decks and boxes while Pokemon and other yugioh products are completely sold out
@@leastsanenousagi7733 where I live, the only speed duel product I see is the battle city box, all the packs and deck are pretty much sold out
The best thing they did was not add hand traps so your opponent can actually play there turn
Can we get an updated video on speed duel thoughts?
Konami just got way too greedy trying to re-sell old cards again with the Speed Duel logo. Certainly the format would've been much more popular had regular cards been legal for play. Surely there was a way to design compelling product (rarity upgrades, reprints of old cards etc.) without forcing people to spend 10 bucks on what should be a 10 cent common. The latest box seems a lot better in that way, but it's probably just too late.
MTG literally already does everything you said with their commander decks and they also include new cards made specifically for the commander format. All Konami had to do was follow what MTG does.
I hope speed duel continues, I play both normal and speed duel but my gf liked duel links and really got into speed duels shes tried normal ygo but hated it, if it does end up flopping she would be so upset
My biggest beef with Speed Duels was the requiring the Speed Duel logo. Like you mentioned they are just reprints that most I already own SEVERAL copies of. If I want to use my SDK-001 Blue-Eyes, I should be able to use my SDK-001 Blue-Eyes. I hadn’t even thought of the fact that commons got reprinted at higher rarities that make those reprints highly valuable
I already have a playset of Blade Knight. Why does the Speed Duel version cost 5 bucks each?
@@ReeksofChees3 exactly
I just found out about Speed Duels. Im lovin it and i hope they will continue somehow
As other viewers have mentioned, the only advantage that Speed Duels had over Duel Links was the ability to buy singles. I'm interested to see how Rush Duels turn out, but I'm not thrilled that the Rush Duel cards are incompatible with the main Yugioh TCG cards.
The limitation of the playing field and hand limits combo sizes and game speed. If that with maybe a cap of special summons or draws per turn, I think it could become a massive format.
Speaking from the "future" Speed Duels are still continuing on especially after the Battle City Boxes positive reception. The only problem I can see so far, aside from the long hiatus between the last products pre-B.C.B, the Battle City Box, and now the GX Duel Academy Box, is that the product base may be just box sets with multiple structure decks now, with expansion box sets coming in the future as we are currently seeing with the GX sets. Which isn't entirely a bad thing, it is introducing more cards and later summoning forms at a decent, yet still kind of slow, pace without going too crazy with releases and new formats and cards, basically introducing long winded and excessive games with strategies like we see in Master Rule now where someone can win on turn one. But at the same time it is limiting the format to various box sets/structure decks which have a set pool of cards all around the range $20 - $40. Again it's still fine, but a part of me questions how long they can keep up with this strategy. Yes you can mix and match cards and strategies in the various structure decks provided, but I would still like the multiple booster packs that we got in the past to maybe add a little more spice, or rather variety, to our decks and strategies. Yes I know the box sets do come with a small pool of cards outside of the constructed decks for that purpose, but as far as I know it's also a set pool of them that you get in each box set, i.e. you and everyone else get the exact same ones in each separate box set, I could be wrong though.
I like the idea of speed duels, it’s just Konami isn’t supporting it at all, all they care about is advanced format.
I really liked speed duel it was cool having decks themed off of characters from the show which got us into it playing. Next play popular characters weevil and Rex because they never had an official deck so it was really neat. before it also keep everyone on a neutral playing level the speed duel decks didn’t have a big power creep vs when we played normal Yugioh we had to plan which decks to use because some decks were way to good
I think what could have made Speed Duels as a format work, was taking the idea they already established in Vrains. Maybe expand the limited 1 copy list for speed duel variants. But just shell out more skills and new (not reprinted) Speed Duel cards. Like if you wanted to play a Blackwing deck, you can use your TCG Cards, cut the deck and extra deck to the right deck size and just add a Crow Themed Skill Card. Want to just hop with your old Elemental HERO deck. Just buy a Jaden or Aster Skill card and again trim your deck down and your good to go. Honestly having Links, Xyz, Syncros would have been fine because of the smaller and limited decks, hands and field sizes. They honestly could have just pumped out Skill Cards for Anime Characters of all the different generations or for Specific Archetypes. Charged like $10 a pop for a booster of 3 or 4 Skill cards, and had a ready to go alternative format.
So yugioh went wrong... Just the usual
I just got my first speed duel deck so it would be a shame if the format ended. On the other hand: it could be very interesting to know the definitive cardpool like in GOAT format. It could lead to a lot of creativity with what we have.
2:00 "instead of cosmic cyclone" ... yea about that xD the latest released box has that card for speed duel
Id really like it if speed duels became a way for them to.print goat format cards. Cause things like.don zaloog havent been reprinted for years
The only reason i didn't really get into speed duels is because i've gotten so invensted with making competitive decks around cards/ archtypes that i like.
I think the main problem is the marketing. I feel like the people who know about it the most are the people who play the master duels. Which at this point a lot of those people didn't grow up with the series so the character stuff doesn't really appeal to them. And if they're playing competitively they kinda just like what they like and they're not really looking for another way to play. So people who are trying to get into yugioh and older players just don't know it exists or what it's about. I think it sucks that konami started teaming up with content creators to get more info out about their products but never did it with speed duels. Kinda just shows they didn't care.
Speed Duels could be so much better. It sorta gives us another chance for good reprints like D.D. Crow and that Magnet warrior field spell which only had 1 printing at like $20 before the battle city box. Also I think the reason why they gave cards that “Speed Duel” mark is to keep it balanced cause it would be a very long list to see what’s legal and what’s not. And it would be busted if we had a full size library in this game. They could have done 2 things:
somehow linked the sealed product with the app, so it would be an extra incentive to keep playing both. Link digital codes for gems and dream tickets for opening sealed stuff.
Or produce more events and chances to get the same crazy rarity cards from the app
I use a lot of speed duels starter decks for my Toon Sealed Only series. I also kind of like to he feel of SD cards over normal cards.
Like the physical feel? I just picked up a battle city box recently and the card print quality feels significantly better. It's much closer to how the ocg prints stuff. I think this is due to the sheen layering they put on it when adding the speed duel watermark.
I think Speed Duels should have just been more like an LCG and avoided booster boxes entirely. I know that's how Konami like to make their money back, but the R&D department doesn't need to put a lot of work into the game, seeing as almost everything is recycled from Advanced and Duel Links, so it's harder to justify dealing with randomised packs and potential short printing (not sure if they ever did that in SD though). The Battle City box was a great product in terms of value, as it gave you 1 of every card and still had rarity upgrades for whales and the thrill of opening product.
I kind of hoped Speed Duel would have lifted off big. The idea of Speed Duel and deck building could have been so fun. I had this Codarus/Daedulus/Neo-Daedulus Speed Duel deck to start playing because, if it ever reached to that heights in its lifespan, but sadly... that wasn't the case. The only great thing to ever come out of Speed Duel is the rarity bump that some cards would NEVER get, aka SR Enchanting Fitting Room T_T.
As for Rush Duels, they seem good, a different game, but again, for me, it kind of seems the opposite of Speed Duel, now you are buying cards you CAN'T use in the main game... it's not bad.. but at least when Speed Duel dies, you can still use your PSCT old cards for now... well, we'll see when we get there!
6:40 some of the cards from speed duels were new to the TCG like Neck Hunter
and has lots of reprints of expensive cards like Fortress Whale
Speed Duels is fantastic. I just wish Konami knew how to market it.
Still outlasted cross duels 😂
I don't know if this is true but someone really wanted to kill speed duels in the U.S., there's the lack advertising for it, the over abundance for duel links, and Finally Yu-Gi-Oh Vrains, the Anime that Debut Link Monster also showed some speed duels but it had a hard time coming to the U.S., weird right?
speel duel can be pretty cool because it would be a lot easyer to make pure deck of a lot of different archtypes, the problem is just that it's only the old cards the have been printed
People say Speed Duel is Duel Links IRL, but no. Speed Duel is Duel Links from 2017 IRL. We are already in XYZ era in DL, while Speed Duel didn't even got his first Synchro monster. Is not even old TCG, it's old Duel Links.
No tournaments, no prize support. Not allowing us to use our existing cards (within their given pool.) That's all I got.
Speed duals pretty much died in Australia, no promotions and no locals to play them (no speed dual tournament packs cause I had to order blue eyes from the US). Rush duels look really fun from me watching the OCG, I own RD Blue eyes as part of my collection. The game of RD is fast and fun game with a few twists in the rules of Rush Duels.
Where speed duels went wrong....EVERY DUEL IS A F**** SPEED DUEL. Everything up to GX sure everyone had mostly the same deck, but at least duels took some time
I haven't really gotten into speed dueling due to a lack of interest/marketing. Though I will say it's best selling point would be to help newer players to learn the game. I think if they pushed it in that direction, it may have done a bit better. Like if they had a speed duel tournament for beginners before an actual locals on a weekend or something. Also the lack of 'OTS' packs for it as well.
My buddy looked it up, Battle City box was the last one. Konami is focusing on the new version of "speed duels" that is getting a show and will only be in OCG.
Rush Duels!
Duel links was the correct platform for it basically
I like speed duels, it has gotten my brother to look at the game again simply because it's ALMOST a return to form of old school YGO. Since I'll most likely be playing with him exclusively I refuse to pay premiums for a card that is stamped for speed duels when I can just purchase it for $1 in standard yu-gi-oh form. I will honestly stick to the speed duel card list but will use regular cards, and I wouldn't fault anyone who chose to do the same, even against me
I agree about being resold the same products but limited to one format, I wouldn't be too fussed if there were a Speed Duel legal list so you can use your collection regardless of origin, with the exception of Skill cards, but not being allowed to use your Speed Duel cards with the old ones because of two words printed on them is ridiculous when it forces you to buy them all over again.
At least the designs of Rush Duel cards are visibly different from normal so you can't confuse a normal Blue-Eyes, a Speed Duel Blue-Eyes and a Rush Duel Blue-Eyes, (especially with that Legend stamp on the Rush Duel Blue-Eyes) but only being able to use cards one-way with normal and Speed Duel formats really doesn't make sense.