mat side weigh ins is a terrible idea. The athletes will do the same weight cutting except not be able to rehydrate or eat food. We would cut weight and just drink tons of fluids and not eat bad food match day. The quality of the wrestlers will go downs due to this. It won’t solve anything. If they want to cure cutting weight change the weight certification rule to add a few pounds to their equation. You will begin to see athletes begin to put on more muscle mass to fill into their new weight class as well as let them eat and drink more water.
Exact. It's better to give the athletes time to replenish because they will still be doing some type of cutting to make weight. Mat side weigh ins would be even more dangerous in terms of health
Actually the guy 2 or 3 liters dehydrated to make weight will be losing and that will make the cut stupid. Eliminate the benefit and no one will do it.
Matside weigh ins would inevitably mean that people would wrestle closer to their “walk around” weight, or be more conditioned year round instead of getting big and making drastic cuts during season.
If you think a walk around weight would make for an elite combat athlete you’re insane. This isn’t basketball or football. The average wrestling fan today might as well be watching wwe
Easy no. Cause it is not done internationally. Cutting weight needs to be learned. Figuring out how to manage your body takes time and practice as all aspects of the sport. If it was more beneficial to be a natty wrestler then it would defeat cutting weight and it more instances it does not. If it’s done globally??? Then let’s go!
Truth is it would take away The benefits of excessive cutting. The sport should be about who is better conditioned, has better technique and situational awareness & can impose their will. Not who can deprive the body the most to get an unnatural size advantage. It's the worst thing in high school sports, developing bodies shouldn't be starved and dehydrated. The things that I've seen done are actually frightening.
@@williamgreathouse3283 you don't understand that the point of cutting weight is to get the upper hand against your opponent (take it from a hs wrestler, such as myself).
@jrob206 yeah, everyone under the sun understands why they do it. So that he can be the bigger guy. Sort of defeats the purpose of weight classes. It takes the fair out fair fight. Thanks Mr. I wrestled in h.s.
@@Not-the-only-one weight fluctuates even without cutting weight genius. you’re telling me if a kid is naturally 132 but he eats some food and it brings him to 132.5 he should wrestle 138?
@@joenu7s no, of course weight fluctuates genius. Im just saying if a kid weighs 132.5 and wants to wrestle 132 then he better weigh 132 when he steps on the mat. cutting a couple pounds is completely different than cutting 15+ pounds
@@Not-the-only-one you’re a genius because like another comment said wrestlers aren’t going to eat the day of competition, making the quality of wrestling worse
My freshman year I cut to 112 from 128 with 8 percent body fat. It was the hardest thing I ever done. But my coach and dad wanted me to do it so I did it
I swear i keep hearing this and people love finding a way to make this sport more miserable. Yes weight cutting sucks, but wrestling from october to march is arguably the worst part of the sport. I dont see the problem with just giving kids a few pounds so theyre not sucking themselves out. If the weight is 140 and you weigh in 143 that shouldnt be that big of a deal.
I was a freshman wrestling 130. I had cut from like 140 and change. I had a tournament that was two days. I made it to the second day and had been eating amd drinking a ton. On the second day I had to wake up at like 5 am and start jumping rope in the basement where the fireplace was. Sucked
On paper, this sounds like a great idea. However, you have to remember that you are talking about kids… and they will find an unhealthy way of making weight whether you intended it to be that way or not. I’m open to change, I’m open to being wrong and I want to give this a fair shot. But don’t push it. Let people adopt this organically or you’ll lose athletes rather than gain. Just a thought
Fuckin kids don't even cut weight anymore! I have the unique vantage of having came of age prior to the hydration + weight certs, which were introduced my junior year of high school. I wrestled in college after...then came back a decade after to finish out my eligibility at an NCAA DIII. I was the only dinosaur out there in plastic like an idiot. Those kids don't cut shit. Probably better for the sport, but weight cutting is good for young men, I believe. Some young men who need to learn about discipline regardless of what their wrestling pedigree winds up being.
@@shogunjobu being a competitor causes you to look for that competitive edge, not necessarily what’s best for you or the sport in the long run. mat side weigh ins would change wrestlers perspective on cutting too much weight.
I remember quitting wrestling in HS because my coaches would force feed me to gain and then bought me a sweatsuit to cut. I could go from 110s to 130s and back over and over wrestling in match after match.
yeah this sounds like a lie. Your high school coaches bought you a sweat suit, and they force fed you. That is clownish sounding to me. I never had a coach force me to do anything about weight. Especially not across 110 to 130 lbs, which had, at the time, 108, 112, 119, 125, and 130. Why would coaches be making you move through FIVE weight classes. I am calling total BS
@@jf8138 can’t say for him but my coaches had me wrestling 145-170 wherever coach needed me I was at. Guys get thrown around all over different weights on teams that want to compete but have a guy or 2 hurt. Missing weight causes other issues too, bouncing people up and down to make sure all weights are filled with your best guys. Also want to point out, less weight classes in between but more weight which is the thing we’re mainly talking about
Terrible Idea. Weight fluctuates like crazy every day. Instead one could do weights by random pool that is different for every tournament. Sometimes you could be at the top of the pool in terms of weight range, sometimes at the bottom. But it is luck of the draw whether you are at the top or the bottom of the weight distribution. That's what should be done for kids wrestling as there would be no way to game the system.
@@bradthenutritionist Haven't heard that stock line before. That's how they do it at Jiujitsu tournaments at everything but the big ones. And yes, it disincentivizes weight cutting without forcing someone to step on the scale between every match.
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mat side weigh ins is a terrible idea. The athletes will do the same weight cutting except not be able to rehydrate or eat food. We would cut weight and just drink tons of fluids and not eat bad food match day. The quality of the wrestlers will go downs due to this. It won’t solve anything. If they want to cure cutting weight change the weight certification rule to add a few pounds to their equation. You will begin to see athletes begin to put on more muscle mass to fill into their new weight class as well as let them eat and drink more water.
Exact. It's better to give the athletes time to replenish because they will still be doing some type of cutting to make weight. Mat side weigh ins would be even more dangerous in terms of health
Actually the guy 2 or 3 liters dehydrated to make weight will be losing and that will make the cut stupid. Eliminate the benefit and no one will do it.
if you suck too much weight you will get beat by someone who isn’t.
Matside weigh ins would inevitably mean that people would wrestle closer to their “walk around” weight, or be more conditioned year round instead of getting big and making drastic cuts during season.
If you think a walk around weight would make for an elite combat athlete you’re insane. This isn’t basketball or football. The average wrestling fan today might as well be watching wwe
Easy no. Cause it is not done internationally. Cutting weight needs to be learned. Figuring out how to manage your body takes time and practice as all aspects of the sport.
If it was more beneficial to be a natty wrestler then it would defeat cutting weight and it more instances it does not.
If it’s done globally??? Then let’s go!
Truth is it would take away The benefits of excessive cutting. The sport should be about who is better conditioned, has better technique and situational awareness & can impose their will. Not who can deprive the body the most to get an unnatural size advantage. It's the worst thing in high school sports, developing bodies shouldn't be starved and dehydrated. The things that I've seen done are actually frightening.
The point of mat side weigh ins is that these kids stop cutting weight. Stay healthy. And wrestle what you weigh.
You've clearly never wrestled before... 🤦♂️
@@jrob206 really? And what brought you to this wrong conclusion? Have a conversation with me.
@@williamgreathouse3283 you don't understand that the point of cutting weight is to get the upper hand against your opponent (take it from a hs wrestler, such as myself).
@jrob206 yeah, everyone under the sun understands why they do it. So that he can be the bigger guy. Sort of defeats the purpose of weight classes. It takes the fair out fair fight. Thanks Mr. I wrestled in h.s.
@@williamgreathouse3283 too bad, adapt and change to the sport.
Really bad idea
the cure for cutting too much weight, mat side weigh ins.
so if a kid is .5 pounds over because he ate some food he should wrestle up a weight?
@@joenu7s yup, if you suck a lot of weight you will pay for it. the kid that doesn’t will have more energy
@@Not-the-only-one weight fluctuates even without cutting weight genius. you’re telling me if a kid is naturally 132 but he eats some food and it brings him to 132.5 he should wrestle 138?
@@joenu7s no, of course weight fluctuates genius. Im just saying if a kid weighs 132.5 and wants to wrestle 132 then he better weigh 132 when he steps on the mat. cutting a couple pounds is completely different than cutting 15+ pounds
@@Not-the-only-one you’re a genius because like another comment said wrestlers aren’t going to eat the day of competition, making the quality of wrestling worse
My freshman year I cut to 112 from 128 with 8 percent body fat. It was the hardest thing I ever done. But my coach and dad wanted me to do it so I did it
I swear i keep hearing this and people love finding a way to make this sport more miserable. Yes weight cutting sucks, but wrestling from october to march is arguably the worst part of the sport. I dont see the problem with just giving kids a few pounds so theyre not sucking themselves out. If the weight is 140 and you weigh in 143 that shouldnt be that big of a deal.
The kids that want it and are willing to sacrifice for it will be more obsessive about weight and body fat % then ever. Especially on tournament days.
I was a freshman wrestling 130. I had cut from like 140 and change. I had a tournament that was two days. I made it to the second day and had been eating amd drinking a ton. On the second day I had to wake up at like 5 am and start jumping rope in the basement where the fireplace was. Sucked
It wouldn't be the same without cutting
On paper, this sounds like a great idea. However, you have to remember that you are talking about kids… and they will find an unhealthy way of making weight whether you intended it to be that way or not.
I’m open to change, I’m open to being wrong and I want to give this a fair shot. But don’t push it. Let people adopt this organically or you’ll lose athletes rather than gain. Just a thought
Fuckin kids don't even cut weight anymore! I have the unique vantage of having came of age prior to the hydration + weight certs, which were introduced my junior year of high school. I wrestled in college after...then came back a decade after to finish out my eligibility at an NCAA DIII.
I was the only dinosaur out there in plastic like an idiot. Those kids don't cut shit. Probably better for the sport, but weight cutting is good for young men, I believe. Some young men who need to learn about discipline regardless of what their wrestling pedigree winds up being.
Horrible idea
Soft. Cutting weight teaches a young man what he’s capable of.. sometimes you have to suffer for a reward
Duals mat side may be superior but tournament style would be horrible
No!!! Bad idea!!! Just like the three point take down. Stupid!!! Stop fixing things that are not broken!
Bro these bots have got to stop
What do current wrestlers want. Not you podcasters
@@shogunjobu being a competitor causes you to look for that competitive edge, not necessarily what’s best for you or the sport in the long run. mat side weigh ins would change wrestlers perspective on cutting too much weight.
stupid idea
Check-in at the table would take much longer.
I remember quitting wrestling in HS because my coaches would force feed me to gain and then bought me a sweatsuit to cut. I could go from 110s to 130s and back over and over wrestling in match after match.
yeah this sounds like a lie. Your high school coaches bought you a sweat suit, and they force fed you. That is clownish sounding to me. I never had a coach force me to do anything about weight. Especially not across 110 to 130 lbs, which had, at the time, 108, 112, 119, 125, and 130. Why would coaches be making you move through FIVE weight classes. I am calling total BS
@@jf8138 can’t say for him but my coaches had me wrestling 145-170 wherever coach needed me I was at. Guys get thrown around all over different weights on teams that want to compete but have a guy or 2 hurt. Missing weight causes other issues too, bouncing people up and down to make sure all weights are filled with your best guys. Also want to point out, less weight classes in between but more weight which is the thing we’re mainly talking about
Never heard of a wrestling coach forcing someone to eat just to make them cut. I’m going to guess your coach/team wasn’t very good.
@@jf8138 cool troll. Don’t have to explain my life to you.
@@bradthenutritionist I come on here just to say my truth of how I was treated by coaches as a kid and y’all coming at me. 😂 I know my truth!
Terrible Idea. Weight fluctuates like crazy every day. Instead one could do weights by random pool that is different for every tournament. Sometimes you could be at the top of the pool in terms of weight range, sometimes at the bottom. But it is luck of the draw whether you are at the top or the bottom of the weight distribution. That's what should be done for kids wrestling as there would be no way to game the system.
Everyone here is now dumber for having read your comment
@@bradthenutritionist Haven't heard that stock line before. That's how they do it at Jiujitsu tournaments at everything but the big ones. And yes, it disincentivizes weight cutting without forcing someone to step on the scale between every match.