Hi Johnny, thanks for leaving your comment, I appreciate it. Revelation is a very complex book, isn’t it, and I fully respect other interpretations such as your own. Thanks for sharing. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
There's no rapture in scripture. Nothing outright anyways.. Yeshua did say that the church will be caught up, with the raised dead in Messiah, at the seventh trumpet. He DID also say He will keep us from the hour of trial, which I PERSONALLY believe is the wrath of God. I don't see a secret rapture, not for this complacent church, which is the majority of the church, but not saying it's not possible!! The way I look at it, is instead of arguing when or whether there's gonna be rapture before tribulation, we should set out minds on roughing it out, getting some work done , spreading hope, helping orphans, widows, needy, get where we can heal and cast out demons. That way, when he shows up, we will be doing what we are commanded, we get out of here, no problems, and we will only be sitting around waiting on something we can't find in scripture, without a 'pastor' showing it anyways, and spreading it, which I believe is the SNARE set in front of the church. Imagine how new believers, even hardcore believers would have their faith destroyed if they thought they where 'left behind'😞 we CAN'T EVEN RISK THAT!!
@@Overlord-jj9bs rapture is all through the Bible/ from Gen.-Rev. Enoch/Lot/Daniel/ Bride of Christ. The 2nd Coming is at the end of the final week of the 70 weeks of judgement on Israel and set up His Kingdom for a Millennium. Latin=Rapturo Greek=Harpozo The church(Bride) caught up meeting Him in the air. His 2nd coming to earth
Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes, there are many interpretations out there - and I hope that we can all learn from one another, even if there is disagreement about the details. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Peace, Steve
Revelation 6:2 is linked mathematically to Psalm 40:7 connecting the rider on the white horse to the return of Messiah, as the divine structure of the Bible shows. I document this in Chapter two of my book published in 2016. The Seals began to open in the Summer of 2012, marked by the largest snowfall in history during a massive storm affecting 9 countries in one morning on the African continent. There is a great deal we can learn by knowing the divine structure of the Bible, which was shown to me during a visitation of Christ in my home in the Spring of 2010. God bless you for seeking out the truth.
Hi, thank you for your interesting comment. It is always interesting to hear the different approaches people have to this passage. I appreciate you taking the time to share yours. Peace, Steve
Hi, thank you so much for leaving a comment - I appreciate it. I'm glad you found the video helpful. There is a lot of fear around this passage - and the whole of Revelation, isn't there? But if we interpret the imagery by Scripture itself, I don't think we need to be so afraid. Peace, Steve
Dreamt of Revelations 6:13 in 2010 Did not realise till last year reading an old Bible, different wording The 'unripe' figs were green A grim dream last night of looking at the night sky in my homeland, i noticed what appeared to be trails, many dozens of trails. I pointed this out to nearby people and we gazed in interest that quickly turned to awe, then sheer terror. Deafening sounds from many places in the sky as of breaking glass, the trails thicken and green flashes dot the heavens. Then panic as we all run for cover, i hold out my hand and a fragment lands in my palm Thats some of my record
Hi, thank you so much for sharing that will me. I am sure that God does speak to us through our dreams - there is certainly a lot of that in the Bible. Peace, Steve
I have no clue about if the rapture is before or after. Nobody else knows for sure either. This is why I have no say either way. We will go thru whatever father wants us to and that's fine with me
Hi, thanks for your very honest and humble reply. I agree that none of us can 'know for sure' what this passage means. We can offer ideas and thoughts - but it is all in the hands of our Father. I appreciate your honesty. Peace, Steve
The Tribulation period of 7 years of Wrath begins with the 7 year Peace/Security Agreement Confirmed with the many / like the one coming up in Dec. In Dubai COP28
Tribulation period is caused because Satan is cast down and enters the man of sin, who than declares himself God and demands worship. We know that he is given 42 months (3.5 years), so the Tribulation must also be 3.5 years....makes sense..........Revelation 12:12 (KJV) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
@@faithinabusyworld thanks, i can give details, like allies+axis powers=1/4 of land mass, or nuclear bomb still the greatest war sword. In Mat 24:6 Jesus said wars in general don't mean anything except 24:7 a specific war that marks the beginning of sorrows, and this war can be identified by many nations (WW), pestilences (biological warfare) and earthquakes in unlikely places (bombs caused local earthquakes). the beginning of anything has to be uniquely identifiable.
Well done my friend. First time I have ever heard anyone say that the seals will not occur in chronological order. Could be true I suppose. I agree that it is looking like it has begun. I have reason to believe that Yeshua proclaimed that the acceptable year of the lord was at hand in the Hebrew year 3791. That being the acceptable time for man to come to know the Father through his Son. Hosea 6:2-3 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth. If a day is a thousand years to the Lord ? We are now in the year Hebrew year 5784. 5784 - 3791 = 1993 years. 7 more years and it will have been 2 days to the Lord. We will see. Shalom ✌
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I am always interested in hearing the views of other people and different perspectives on this subject. I appreciate your input. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
White Horse: deception in peaceful times Red Horse: wars using missiles that destroy big (big sword). Black Horse: Food Crisis Pale Horse: depopulation on a massive scale/mark of the beast.
The Tribulation Period doesn't begin until after a pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church. It must be that way because the two witnesses will be accused for preaching the gospel of the Kingdom if the rapture doesn't happen first because the gospel of the Kingdom is not Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) that is being preached today. Jesus stated that it would be the gospel of the kingdom that will be preached before the end comes. One of the key differences between the gospel of the Kingdom and Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is the manner in which people are getting saved. In the gospel of the Kingdom, you must endure until the end to get saved and this fits in with the Tribulation Period dispensation because you have to endure the Mark Of The Beast system during the Tribulation Period and the only way to acquire salvation during the Tribulation Period is to not take the Mark Of the Beast and endure until Jesus returns at the end of the Tribulation Period. In Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) you get saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit the moment you believe (trust) the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It is always interesting to hear how people interpret Revelation differently. I fully respect your interpretation and wish you all the best. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
Thank you for leaving your comment. Whilst we hold to very different interpretations, it is always interesting to hear other views. Thank you for your time. Peace, Steve 🙏
THERE MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD REASON JOHN CALLED IT ALL LOGOS. NOW IF ONLY THE THEoLOGIANS COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT LOGIA, ELOHIM, AND GAN-EDEN ALL HAVE IN COMMON. GUESS YOUR ALL ABOUT TO FIND OUT. 🦁
At the 1 minute mark you already made a false statement. The seals couldn't possibly be opened until Jesus went up to heaven. Second, the Tribulation period is when those seals are opened. You're living in wonderland today in comparison to the days those seals are opened.
You keep saying the horsemen are representing wars since the first coming of Jesus. Good grief! Do you think they didn't have horrible wars before Jesus was born? Read the old testament for proof. So far, I disagree with what you are saying. Maybe the beast is already here! 😜
I do, of course, accept that there were wars before the time of Jesus. But I didn’t say there weren’t…I am making (the well attested) case that is commonly held by those in the reformed theological tradition about the timeline of the Book of Revelation (eg. Read Hendriksen’s book More Than Conquerors)
Hi, thanks for your comment, I appreciate it. Certainly, there are a lot of different interpretations about the First Horseman. It's an interesting passage of Scripture, isn't it? Peace, Steve
rapture first then tribulation which has not started yet
Hi Johnny, thanks for leaving your comment, I appreciate it. Revelation is a very complex book, isn’t it, and I fully respect other interpretations such as your own. Thanks for sharing. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
There's no rapture in scripture. Nothing outright anyways.. Yeshua did say that the church will be caught up, with the raised dead in Messiah, at the seventh trumpet. He DID also say He will keep us from the hour of trial, which I PERSONALLY believe is the wrath of God. I don't see a secret rapture, not for this complacent church, which is the majority of the church, but not saying it's not possible!! The way I look at it, is instead of arguing when or whether there's gonna be rapture before tribulation, we should set out minds on roughing it out, getting some work done , spreading hope, helping orphans, widows, needy, get where we can heal and cast out demons. That way, when he shows up, we will be doing what we are commanded, we get out of here, no problems, and we will only be sitting around waiting on something we can't find in scripture, without a 'pastor' showing it anyways, and spreading it, which I believe is the SNARE set in front of the church. Imagine how new believers, even hardcore believers would have their faith destroyed if they thought they where 'left behind'😞 we CAN'T EVEN RISK THAT!!
Aye lad@@Overlord-jj9bs
@@Overlord-jj9bs rapture is all through the Bible/ from Gen.-Rev.
Enoch/Lot/Daniel/ Bride of Christ.
The 2nd Coming is at the end of the final week of the 70 weeks of judgement on Israel and set up His Kingdom for a Millennium.
Latin=Rapturo
Greek=Harpozo
The church(Bride) caught up meeting Him in the air. His 2nd coming to earth
@@Overlord-jj9bswhere did he command us to cast demons out??
Agree the First Trumpet has sounded ,many disagree with us but they also are those to buy into pre trib rapture and if we were in the last days !
Hi, thanks for your comment. Yes, there are many interpretations out there - and I hope that we can all learn from one another, even if there is disagreement about the details. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Peace, Steve
P.S. Never been a better time to be alive in the entire HIStory of creation.
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Revelation 6:2 is linked mathematically to Psalm 40:7 connecting the rider on the white horse to the return of Messiah, as the divine structure of the Bible shows. I document this in Chapter two of my book published in 2016.
The Seals began to open in the Summer of 2012, marked by the largest snowfall in history during a massive storm affecting 9 countries in one morning on the African continent.
There is a great deal we can learn by knowing the divine structure of the Bible, which was shown to me during a visitation of Christ in my home in the Spring of 2010. God bless you for seeking out the truth.
2012...why?
Hi, thank you for your interesting comment. It is always interesting to hear the different approaches people have to this passage. I appreciate you taking the time to share yours. Peace, Steve
@@Iluda44
We are late in a window of prophetic fulfillment due to a key date in modern Jewish history -- May 11, 1942.
Thank you, Steve. I was just saying this today. I felt that we are already in it & the Four Horsemen have been released upon the Earth.
Hi, thank you so much for leaving a comment - I appreciate it. I'm glad you found the video helpful. There is a lot of fear around this passage - and the whole of Revelation, isn't there? But if we interpret the imagery by Scripture itself, I don't think we need to be so afraid. Peace, Steve
Dreamt of Revelations 6:13 in 2010
Did not realise till last year reading an old Bible, different wording
The 'unripe' figs were green
A grim dream last night of looking at the night sky in my homeland, i noticed what appeared to be trails, many dozens of trails. I pointed this out to nearby people and we gazed in interest that quickly turned to awe, then sheer terror. Deafening sounds from many places in the sky as of breaking glass, the trails thicken and green flashes dot the heavens. Then panic as we all run for cover, i hold out my hand and a fragment lands in my palm
Thats some of my record
Hi, thank you so much for sharing that will me. I am sure that God does speak to us through our dreams - there is certainly a lot of that in the Bible. Peace, Steve
Interesting.
Hi, thanks for leaving your encouraging comment. I'm glad you found the video useful. Peace, Steve
This world has had wars far worse than we've seen in the last 100 years.
I agree
I have no clue about if the rapture is before or after. Nobody else knows for sure either. This is why I have no say either way. We will go thru whatever father wants us to and that's fine with me
Hi, thanks for your very honest and humble reply. I agree that none of us can 'know for sure' what this passage means. We can offer ideas and thoughts - but it is all in the hands of our Father. I appreciate your honesty. Peace, Steve
The Tribulation period of 7 years of Wrath begins with the 7 year Peace/Security Agreement Confirmed with the many / like the one coming up in Dec. In Dubai COP28
Tribulation period is caused because Satan is cast down and enters the man of sin, who than declares himself God and demands worship. We know that he is given 42 months (3.5 years), so the Tribulation must also be 3.5 years....makes sense..........Revelation 12:12 (KJV) Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Hi, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this passage. I appreciate it. Peace, Steve
The prophetic peace treaty starts after rapture any peace treaty before rapture wouldn't be the prophetic peace agreement.
@@Charles-mv7sv I totally agree with you/ this was 8 months ago looking toward Dec COP28
specifically WW2, that's the one that matches the details of all 4 seals.
Hi, that's an interesting perspective - thanks for sharing it. Peace, Steve
@@faithinabusyworld thanks, i can give details, like allies+axis powers=1/4 of land mass, or nuclear bomb still the greatest war sword. In Mat 24:6 Jesus said wars in general don't mean anything except 24:7 a specific war that marks the beginning of sorrows, and this war can be identified by many nations (WW), pestilences (biological warfare) and earthquakes in unlikely places (bombs caused local earthquakes). the beginning of anything has to be uniquely identifiable.
Well done my friend. First time I have ever heard anyone say that the seals will not occur in chronological order. Could be true I suppose.
I agree that it is looking like it has begun. I have reason to believe that Yeshua proclaimed that the acceptable year of the lord was at hand in the Hebrew year 3791. That being the acceptable time for man to come to know the Father through his Son.
Hosea 6:2-3 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth.
If a day is a thousand years to the Lord ?
We are now in the year Hebrew year 5784. 5784 - 3791 = 1993 years. 7 more years and it will have been 2 days to the Lord. We will see.
Shalom ✌
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I am always interested in hearing the views of other people and different perspectives on this subject. I appreciate your input. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
Partially correct, and partially incorrect....
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White Horse: deception in peaceful times
Red Horse: wars using missiles that destroy big (big sword).
Black Horse: Food Crisis
Pale Horse: depopulation on a massive scale/mark of the beast.
@@Iluda44 Again, thank you for taking the time to leave your comment - I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this issue. Peace, Steve
The tribulation period starts with Israel at peace and with great blessings for first three and a half years and id say no chance has it started
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@@faithinabusyworld its not an opinion its written clearly in the scriptures
The sixth seal describes the cosmic events that occur at the coming of Jesus. Read Matthew 24:29-31
Thank you for sharing your opinion on this. Peace, Steve 🙏
The Tribulation Period doesn't begin until after a pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church.
It must be that way because the two witnesses will be accused for preaching the gospel of the Kingdom if the rapture doesn't happen first because the gospel of the Kingdom is not Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) that is being preached today.
Jesus stated that it would be the gospel of the kingdom that will be preached before the end comes.
One of the key differences between the gospel of the Kingdom and Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) is the manner in which people are getting saved.
In the gospel of the Kingdom, you must endure until the end to get saved and this fits in with the Tribulation Period dispensation because you have to endure the Mark Of The Beast system during the Tribulation Period and the only way to acquire salvation during the Tribulation Period is to not take the Mark Of the Beast and endure until Jesus returns at the end of the Tribulation Period.
In Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) you get saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit the moment you believe (trust) the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It is always interesting to hear how people interpret Revelation differently. I fully respect your interpretation and wish you all the best. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
It has not started yet if this was ture what you say it would be alot wrost then it is right now
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Seals 1 thru 4, I think represent Islams authority over 2B of our 8B people. Also a lot of their flags are white, red, black and green 🇵🇸.
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1 horseman was Corona. With a bow (the vaxine) and a crown (Corona)
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We are not in tbe tribulation
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THERE MIGHT BE A VERY GOOD REASON JOHN CALLED IT ALL LOGOS.
NOW IF ONLY THE THEoLOGIANS COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT LOGIA, ELOHIM, AND GAN-EDEN ALL HAVE IN COMMON.
GUESS YOUR ALL ABOUT TO FIND OUT.
🦁
Thanks for your comment. Peace, Steve 😊🙏
At the 1 minute mark you already made a false statement. The seals couldn't possibly be opened until Jesus went up to heaven. Second, the Tribulation period is when those seals are opened. You're living in wonderland today in comparison to the days those seals are opened.
Thank you for sharing your opinion
Are you starving today? I don't think so. We haven't seen nothing close to those predicted deaths.
No, I’m not starving today. But that’s not the point of what I was saying 👍
You keep saying the horsemen are representing wars since the first coming of Jesus. Good grief! Do you think they didn't have horrible wars before Jesus was born? Read the old testament for proof. So far, I disagree with what you are saying. Maybe the beast is already here! 😜
I do, of course, accept that there were wars before the time of Jesus. But I didn’t say there weren’t…I am making (the well attested) case that is commonly held by those in the reformed theological tradition about the timeline of the Book of Revelation (eg. Read Hendriksen’s book More Than Conquerors)
Don't forget the 1st horseman is Pestilence. Maybe he's Fauci...
Hi, thanks for your comment, I appreciate it. Certainly, there are a lot of different interpretations about the First Horseman. It's an interesting passage of Scripture, isn't it? Peace, Steve