State Superintendent removed from school board meeting for speaking out against anti-LGBTQ+ policy
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Emotions ran high in a debate over parental rights versus the privacy and safety of LGBTQ+ students. It played out Thursday night at the Chino Valley Unified School District board meeting in Southern California's San Bernardino County, part of a broader conversation happening throughout the state.
California's Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Thurmond spoke during the public section of the meeting, telling ABC10 in an interview the next day that students in that district invited him to come weigh in.
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What is this disgusting OBSESSION with kids? I’m tired of these stories. NO, THERE IS NO POINT OR JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS NONSENSE. LEAVE KIDS ALONE!!!! WHY IS THAT SUCH A PROBLEM? THIS IS SICKENING.
Parents are legally and morally responsible for their children until they are 18. Parents have a right and a need to know everything about their children.
So then ask them. As a teacher, it’s not my job to mediate relationships between parents and students. Y’all just want us to teach. Remember???
And when children are physically abused because they want to transition. This is not a moral or legal issue.
@@momof2240I agree with u
@@voteforscienceNo child should be allowed to transition. Period.
@@momof2240As a parent, we are sick of your s***! No one wants you to coach OUR children. Teach them to read, to write, math, and science. You wanna go above and beyond? Teach them how to do taxes, balance a checkbook, and agriculture.
Those who can't do, teach.
Its not the schools place. Leave our kids alone !
Agreed...but its Jim Jones all over again across the country
These educators that feel they have more rights than parents over their own children are a problem.
Exactly right!
Homeschool your shitlings, then. As a taxpayer, I'd want my kids AWAY from the children of ooga booga barbarians.
As long as they attempt to think they have some right to sexualize our children WE WILL NEVER BACK DOWN. PROTECT THE KIDS DONT RAPE THEM BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY IF A WOMAN SAYS NO IT IS CALLED RAPE SO SHALL WE TREAT THE LGBTQ WHEN OUR CHILDREN REJECT SUCH MANIPULATION.
Y'all miss the point. Maybe you both would be loving accepting helpful parents (or maybe you're controlling one's who think you Own your kids, I don't know) if your kids came to you with something hard to accept, but some kids would be met with violence and harm because of their parents bigotry and ignorance of genetic realities.
That is a false argument. The question is whether a teacher has the obligation to report to a parent about their child’s social life. One would hope a child truly trusted their parents, but that is not always true and it is not the business or burden of the teacher to notify parents about who their child is dating or speaking to or even what they are calling themselves. Of course, most people would not condone a teacher sending home emails with information about a child’s straight relationships or identity. “ Dear Mr and Mrs Smith, I thought you should know your thirteen year old boy was holding hands with a girl. Please take the appropriate action and send them to counseling.” Or, is straight behavior allowed and gay behavior not allowed? That is what this comes down to in my eyes.
Parents should always know any and everything that affects their children
The kids belong to the parents not the schools
They can't give out an aspirin without a permission slip. What's going on here.
Here we go again with school districts trying to solve all the world’s problems and in the process fail at what should be it’s only job: teaching the primary academics.
Parents should pull their kids out of schools that don't comply with their wishes. Every single one of them.
Agreed
please do,, no one wants there spoiled privileged bigoted right wingers in school any way !!
Man, I'm 58, if, when I was in school, anybody tried to hide anything from my parents or any of my friends parents, the teachers would have been run out of town on a rail.
Amen! Same here. I'm in my 60s and that's just the way most of our parents were with us kids.
Newsflash, there a LOT of students that confide in their teachers. Trust me, we know more than what we WANT to know. We are professionals…we deal with things accordingly. If a student confided in me about being gay, I’m not outing them to anybody. That’s not my place. Its not my job to fix relationships between students and parents.
@@brendanhurd LOL, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Hyperbole much.
No one is “hiding” it dum dum
@@momof2240 They're talking about transitioning, not just being gay. Transitioning is in depth, and potentially life-threatening surgery. Do you want someone cutting open your child without your knowledge? What kind of sense does that make? You would sue the school if that happened to you.
I would be taking my child out of that school
I feel sorry for your kids. You want them "transitioning" at school? Weird.
@@Redwhiteandtiredyou clearly need help with reading comprehension.
@@Redwhiteandtired Let's hope that person doesn't actually have kids, good grief!
@@Redwhiteandtired That's not what I read. She's stating the opposite. She doesn't want her children transitioning at school, and certainly not without her knowledge.
Parents decide what their children do not the state
Kids don’t get privacy from their parents.
Sometimes they need to for their safety. You are not thinking about that aspect of being a child.
Ok groomer
@@MissMarinaCapri Wrong. Their bodies are a parent's responsibility until they are an adult. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.
@@MissMarinaCapri any respectable parents would be able to talk to their child about anything without the child having any fear for their safety.
@@MissMarinaCaprithen call child services, but the school does not have the right to become their pseudo parents.
Wth is wrong with people. Parents make decisions for there children.
Why do we need a State Board of Education? Local Boards can do the job without interference from the State or even the County.
HOMESCHOOL!¡!!!!¡!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top down control
If a local school district accepts state and federal money, which they ALL do, the state and feds have a right to see how their money is spent. See how that works?
why do we need laws? because local courts can control things without problems right? Pfft did you think before you posted?
so you support bigotry and discrimination is what your saying.
Why wouldn't you want the parents involved with their children?!
Because they want to trans the kids and groom them
thats the point. They do NOT want them to be involved. Its all in Biblical Prophecy anyways.
My mom wouldn't even let me lock my door because I was under her roof and I had to earn the privilege to have privacy.
As a teacher, it is not my Job to mediate relationships between parents and their child. If your kid can’t talk to you, why tf is that MY problem? Y’all just want us to teach….remember??
Oh my. You are a teacher ? Ever take any grammer or English classes? 😂😂😂 Get your kids out of public school, people!
You're obviously not an English teacher, and I hope you're not a teacher at all much longer. Especially if you are spending what I hope is your free time posting trash comments on UA-cam. If my degree were in education, and I left a comment like that...I would be thoroughly embarrassed. Do better.
Here in Florida we have private companies like step up for students determining educational content on behalf of parents. They call it parental choice. It’s been a devastating five years of this $h1t.
Under age parents has rights and responsibilities,
Underage parents?
Do you mean parents of under-aged children?
Random English generator strikes again!
Parents Rights don't stop at the Threshold of the School
so kids have no rights?,, any child that feels like they can talk to their parents does,, luckily my public school saved me from my ignorant self righteous ultra conservative parents or i would of spent life being as ignorant as my parents and you are..
Define Parent Rights please. I hear this phrase yet have not found anything in writing. Just curious….not trying to be rude
They are a cult. You must do what the "cult" says or "else"
It’s always been about the kids.
Agree - and protecting children from groomer cults should be a priority!
@@terfalicious your an I d I O T.... lgbtq are not groomers, They leave that to the "straight religious" crowd that SOOO many times get charged eventually with pedophilia. I remember a preacher in Indiana that fostered MANY children and fought hard against gay people having adoption rights.... 13? charges and convictions on him when one of the kids finally started speaking out! Years ago like the 1990s, but it certainly made an impression on me.
This is about CONTROLLING the kids, not protecting them.
Why is this termed "anti lgb" rather than "pro parental rights". The child was pushed out of a mother, of course that mother has absolute say over medical procedures above ANY activist. I just wonder what that guy would think if someone met his son in a park and convinced him to take a transitioning test.
Sending your kid to public school is child abused. The government takes over from there
The trans agenda is force-teaming themselves with the LGB to artificially inflate their numbers and pretend that all gay folk are in full consensus with their craziness. They are NOT! That's why the alphabet acronym keeps growing and growing - without anyone's permission.
That’s a great question.
Because it’s anti-LGBTQ. It’s bigoted. No one is trying to convert your children 🙄 how tf do you even do that anyway??
If a child doesn't feel like their parents will respect and safeguard them then why should parents be informed of anything to do with them?
Kind of reminds you of WWII. The youth group in Germany were taught some now frowned upon directives. The key word here is TAUGHT.
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Parents’ rights matter!
Be wary of a person who says our student if he doesn't have a child in that school district
FYI, currently it's state law that public schools CAN"T tell parents if this is happening unless the student says it's ok! That's why Thurmond said it may be unlawful. I don't agree at all but it's the law currently.
Since you know this law exists and I can't find anything on it, please point me in the direction of a law that says children have to give approval to the school board to tell parents about the curriculum. Please, go ahead. I'm not stopping you. That's quite a claim.
Then it's overdue for Parents to take back their Children & tell Sacramento to shove it.
Newsom is USING this Issue.... In order to Distract from this: Post Covid - California Public Schools are Ranked LAST in the United States! Newsom seems unable to resist Overstepping his actual Constitutional Authority.
NJ is similar, but is it a law, which should be ratified in state Govt. I think in NJ it may have been just the state board of education. I don’t think Our health curriculum changes were voted on. Too much overstepping in schools and the state. Parents are the guardians, not the government!
It is a parent's job to protect their children - regardless of any laws.
I HAVE TOTAL RESPECT AND HONOR FOR THAT LADY. PUTTING THAT POLITICIAN IN HIS PLACE, GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN KIDS BRO
Bro, your caps key is stuck, bro. Also, bro, you should look up the meaning of honor and how to use it in a sentence...bro.
Sick evil people!! Mess with my child and see!
Homeschool your children because the schools have lost their minds SAVE THE CHILDREN
About time California's residents stand up to their dictators!!!!
This is disgusting, what is wrong with that guy? Parents should know what is going on with THEIR children!
They are no longer your kids once you send them to government school
Some parents would harm their children if they were to share what was true for them. A child is a responsibility not a possession.
@@lovemoves3312 that's fairly ignorant.
So if parent’s were actively engaged with their children how would they not know, before a teacher would know, how their children are feeling about their identify?
Then parents need to talk to their children. As a teacher, I WOULD NEVER “out” one of my students. Especially if they told me in confidence. It’s not my place to “out” students.
They took the 10 commandments out of schools because it’s “feelings” and not scientifically based. But added this instead 😒
Children belong to their parents not the state.
Good for the board. Parents should be aware if children want to play dress up at school.
But what if the child lives in an abusive home? If the child is beaten to death by a parent as a result of this policy, wouldn't the school be held liable? Imagine indirectly causing a child's death. Blood on their hands
More and more people waking up from the matrix . . .
Good job, Chino Valley USD! 🙌🏽
Any child that's a minor no school has the right to make parental decisions for that child stick to teaching ready writing and arithmetic and when I say reading I mean reading things about history or things that will have kids prepared to have a future let the parents do the teaching about nature
How does a child "transition" without their parent's knowledge? Are we talking about pronouns or pills? How are the schools even involved?
the schools let them live a double life, hide it from the parents, and encourage them to do so
When your child leaves for school in the morning, the next 6 hours or so are out of your control. It's scary. If you have kids someday, you'll understand.
Parenrs need to know what theie children are doing! Schools indoctrinate our children and this is disgusting! No way !
God , help our children..they are just kids LORD,, DON'T LET THE AMERICANS DESTROY THEM.. I PRAY, 🙏
Excuse me?
every individual out there.......seek and find God.....if not.....luck will not help you out....
save your preaching about your fictional man made god for church..
LGBTQ+ should not be next to the word “policy.”
Way to show up, Chino Hills. 👏🏻
If you're concerned try Home Schooling.
🇺🇲THE ONLY PRIDE FLAG WE NEED🇺🇲
LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE!!!!!
Good for him for speaking out!!
who??
“Anti LGBT” ??? How is that anti?? What’s w this video title?
Good for parents
Shame on President Biden, Vice president Kamala Harris, the entire administration!
To be clear: There is not nor has there ever been a policy that forbids schools from notifying parents (or official protective services). All that board is doing is removing two things. 1) Any hope that child has of getting support or help from the adults in their school; and 2) Any dedicated educators and administrators hope of being able to foster trust and exercise any autonomy and judgment. Shoot. I just saw the problem. We should also NOT let teachers be parents! Who knows what they let their own children do?!?
As a lesbian and Democrat, I'm delighted this school board stood up to the State Superintendent of Schools, and voted for this policy to protect both kids and the rights of parents. Bravo, Chino Valley school board! I hope you are also working to keep "gender identity" nonsense out of the curriculum.
Please note: being lesbian, gay, or bisexual has *nothing* in common with so-called "transgenderism." LGB is about who you love. It is easily provable that LGB people exist, because there are L and G couples. There is *no* proof that Ts exist, except in their own minds, because there is no objective medical test that proves anyone is so-called "transgender."
Tony should be removed from office.
Homes where they can be safe? Of course they are safe. They are with their parents and most parents protect their children.
@@tlynn9819
Talking sense to diehard Trumptillians is in vain
@@tlynn9819 Oh please...you think the World is perfect? What we don't need is a stranger getting between the Parent & the Child w/ some ideological BS.
@@billyconnelly3568 Newsom is USING this Issue.... In order to Distract from this: Post Covid California Public Schools are Ranked LAST in the United States! Newsom seems unable to resist Overstepping his actual Constitutional Authority. Fascist are like that.
Get out of California!!!! Id live on a dirt road in a cardboard box. Before I would live in california and have them Tell me how to parent my child and keep secrets from me concerning my child
Sadly, a lot of people are already living in cardboard boxes in CA. But I agree with your statement!
Educate your own kids. This doesn’t happen at homeschool and private school. Stop feeding your kids to the wolves Bc you can’t afford better for them
@@lovemoves3312 I'm just wanting to clarify. You think that people who don't have time to home school, or can't afford private school (mainly minorities and immigrants) are feeding their kids to the wolves by sending them to public school? Shouldn't all kid's education be free of grooming and indoctrination, no matter where they attend?
How much was Thurman paid?
I Corinthians 6:9-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
yup...its all in biblical prophecy.
Parents should already be aware of what their children are doing. That's just good parenting.
You're obviously not a parent. When you're children leave for school you cannot follow them. That's 6-8 hours where they are on their own. Someday you'll understand.
If a child is sick or a child hurt it self on purpose do mental issius: Should a teacher keep it a secret and not inform the parents? No, first thing is inform the parents, that simple. Or should they support the child with self mutilation
Wow, that was awesome! Gives me hope for the future! If the radical tide can turn in CA, maybe it can in other groomer states too!
Reality and common sense MUST win or our country is doomed!
That's right!! THIS is what MORE of us need to continue to do.
I am so glad to be the he'll out of Florida
Dont let them take control of Ur children!
No, pal. Parents love their children & want to protect their children & not you.
And the children of such parents will tell their parents.
It's the children who have erratic and small-minded parents that we're worried about here.
Hope that's not too difficult for you to understand.
For a moment I thought this was Florida, but shocked it's in my state of California. Suicides will rise because of these stupid laws.
Yea but try telling the Trumptillians that.
Sorry, but if it were true that kids not being allowed to transition turned to suicide, we would have seen that happen years ago. It's a verifiable fact that the vast majority of people who identify as trans, commit suicide 7 to 10 years after they have gone through gender affirming surgeries. Why do you think that is?
Newsom is USING this Issue.... In order to Distract from this: Post Covid California Public Schools are Ranked LAST in the United States! Newsom seems unable to resist Overstepping his actual Constitutional Authority.
You sound like the boyfriend that threatens to kill himself if his girlfriend leaves him.
Take your children out of the public school system or get yourselves involved in PROTECTING 👏THEM👏 stand up! Show up! And SPEAK UP! Our children DO 👏NOT 👏BELONG 👏TO 👏THE 👏GOVERNMENT👏
My child did not have any privacy rights.
Minors belong to their parents,period.😎🌴🐊
That school board is garbage.
Good job. Don't put up with these lunatics.
It’s a cult, not even parents that have children in that school. 100% kids have never transitioned whatsoever. They want to gain control. Far right extremist cults traveling from school to school
I have no alligance to either side, but what an embarassment for Californians No public discourse equals no resolve.
You think there is some kind of compromise?? NO! Responsible Parents have a right to raise their Kids the way they see fit. This Marist Ideology of the State is irresponsible & completely irrelevant to the well being of the Child. It looks like most of the Demo-Rats in Sacramento are pedophiles.
It's not in California 😂 it's in Florida! In Ca, they just take your kids away from you
I saw this earlier .. good for them.. This vile behavior must stop .. Praying State AGs come to thier senses & investigate under Rico Act .. Follow the Money.. I mean really.. think about it.
Ive always felt like royalty my while life... so please call me your highness from now on.. thank you
I don't know, but this sounds like a stupid policy. Why is the school letting their families know about something like that? I would think the parents would know that was happening before the schools. Cause who's paying for the medications and possible surgeries.....the parents I would assume. So, that policy makes no sense to me.
If a child has reason to believe their parent may beat them or try to forcefuly "convert" them so that they share their worldview, there should be no obligations towards that "parent" in ANY capacity. Same should go for kids that renounce their parent's heathen Gods in favor of another or none at all. You have no more a say in what someone else is than what you do over what they believe. This applies regardless of what kind of relationship you have to that person, you simply get no say in trying to CHANGE the mind of another human being.
Children do not have "reason". It's why we don't let them make adult decisions. Parents have all rights regarding their children. Period.
Right!?! Instead, we should let the LGBTQIA+*$=)@/ community raise our kids and forcibly convert them!
MY kids are MY responsibility. MY children WILL NOT transition to ANYTHING as long as they are MY responsibility.
Children transitioning and children being beaten by their parents are two different topics, and should be treated as such. Parents need to know that someone is going to cut open their child for any reason. If the parents are abusing their child for any reason, then report it to CPS. You can't bundle the two distinct topics and make one law because not all parents are or will be abusive. "Has reason to believe" is not evidence of abuse. Who's talking about changing kids' minds?
@@lockednloaded9867 And in the event they opt to do their own research and come to their own conclusions? What would your hypothetical course of action be should they tell you they know more about themselves than you? Because THAT is the real important thing you should be concerned with.
YES!!! ABOUT TIME
Let me get this correct...so the school doesn't want your parents involved or aware of anything...and God is banned as well?....
The mother's for bigotry should be proud.
The only bigotry going on is the bigotry you display towards biology.
Newsom is USING this Issue.... In order to Distract from this: Post Covid California Public Schools are Ranked LAST in the United States! Newsom seems unable to resist Overstepping his actual Constitutional Authority.
Wonderful
This is abusred that anyone adult would keep stuff like that away from parents teachers are dangerous
The left needs to back down in this issue
If a male transforms into female the parents would figure it out anyway
What are we talking about here
Right on!
Unbelievable...why is he not allowed to speak!!!!!! 😡
He gets the same time as everyone else.
He was allowed to speak, he just tried to keep going after his time was up. He doesn't get special treatment just because he is a woke politician.
Is this about teen only or is there a lot of young kids who tranisition without their parents knowledge? Seems like it would be kind of hard for a 6 year old to get surgeries and aquire the proper hormones to transition to a different gender. Would also think it would be to complicated comprehending the endocrine system when they haven't even been taught about it at school yet.
MAY fall fall outside the law. He's trying to pass legislation that may be against the law?????
What is going on.
Here in Oklahoma we desperately need to get rid of our state school superintendent. He's intentionally destroying our public schools by refusing to accept Federal money to improve our Public School!
Get his asz out of here. Tell the parents
HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!
that school board is full of psychos
See? Not everybody in Kalifornia is Krazy!
Good for him!!
❤🤍💙GO PARENTS! THE AMERICAN WAY a better title!
Trans kids are VERY susceptible to abuse, rage, and violence. The school board should not make private children decisions public, even to parents, unless those actions are harmful or illegal.
And trans do not harm anyone...they are as they were created...a product of nature ( or for the religious, a product of god).
If anyone care to debate that point feel free, I stand on that point.
Should the school teachers/councelors tell parents that thire child is concerned about thire gender? Not at the beginning, it could be just a fantasy. Then make decisions from.there
There is one, maybe more than one situation the patent should not be told
They are mandated to report certain concerns to the authority. If the child has bruses and other injuries that could be child abuse. Then the school absolutely should not tell the parent first. Call the authorities.
leave the LGBTQ people alone
Great school board!!!