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  • @StrassenbahnBen
    @StrassenbahnBen 5 місяців тому +20

    Just a random thought: You could add like a throwback-chapter. Maybe some then new transit line now has its anniversary. That could include some before/after comparison. It would be especially interesting as some projects are very controversal in the beginning. And then they turn out to be very succesful.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  4 місяці тому +2

      Yes, it's an interesting idea. Such reviews can also be made as separate videos, but I think they will require a little more attention.
      By the way, I would be grateful for ideas of the objects for review.

    • @StrassenbahnBen
      @StrassenbahnBen 4 місяці тому

      @@cityforall Sounds like a plan. I'll have a closer look on that.

  • @legoinventions6056
    @legoinventions6056 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey, for your next episode, you should mention Belfast Grand Central Station, which just opened😎

  • @MarcoSoto787
    @MarcoSoto787 5 місяців тому +5

    Muchas gracias por hablar de mi país, Chile. Aunque sea un país pequeño y relativamente poco conocido en el mundo, tenemos buenas cosas.
    Podrías hablar en un próximo video de los nuevos buses eléctricos que llegaron a Valparaíso (una ciudad costera de Chile). Estos son un poco más especiales ya que tienen el esquema de color de los conocidos trolebuses que circulan en el casco histórico de esa ciudad.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому +4

      Gracias por el comentario :)
      En cuanto al « pequeño país », me has hecho reír. 4000 km entre los puntos extremos no es como me imagino un país pequeño :)
      En general, menciono Chile bastante a menudo aquí, y quizás sea también porque lo visité hace unos años.

    • @MarcoSoto787
      @MarcoSoto787 5 місяців тому

      @@cityforall bueno, Chile es bastante pequeño si tomamos su anchura máxima (unos 500 km)
      Igual, gracias por mencionar mi país, es raro encontrar noticias de transporte público de Chile incluso en español, asi que por eso me encanta tu canal.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому

      @@MarcoSoto787 Por cierto, tengo más noticias chilenas atrasadas, así que cuéntale a tus amigos sobre mi canal :)

  • @simobonev4511
    @simobonev4511 5 місяців тому +2

    Lovely channel, glad I stumbled upon it

  • @samirachad
    @samirachad 5 місяців тому +11

    For the next week "Urban news" you should speak about the new transit network of Grenoble (France) and it's metropolitan area. The previous agency (TAG) has merged with the one that was in charge of the public transit in the valley of the Grésivaudan, hence the rebranding "M'Réso" and the creation/modification of multiple new bus lines. And the tram line D has been extented to the central train station of Grenoble while losing its former title of the "smallest tram line in France" :)
    Thx so much for your (so addictive) videos !!!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому +3

      Oh, that's interesting! Can you provide some links please?

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard 5 місяців тому

    I'll have to try out the new electric hydrofoil ferry on route 89 sometime!
    (89 ferry routes? No, it's one number series for all buses, trams, trains, metros, & ferries all together. e.g. #1 is an inner city trunk bus route, #13 is a metro line, and #666 is a suburban bus route).
    Having electric busses be able to charge on the go from tram wires seems like a very good idea. There are some joint sections here in Stockholm, and add some extra wires at the turnarounds and terminal stations, do that and the some bus lines should be able to stay charged all day without having huge batteries. Batteries are expensive, after all (and add weight and thus wear and tear to the road surfaces, tyres, and to the bus chassis).

  • @FDW137
    @FDW137 5 місяців тому +1

    The Section that Seattle opened is basically going to be a like a Metro line that uses trams, but it won't reach its full potential until the Section on the Eastside is finally connected to the rest of system next year.

  • @jorgea5426
    @jorgea5426 5 місяців тому

    Those electric buses with trolley ples are intriguing. Hope they work...
    Also, the idea of ferry buses across rives is interesting, I wonder how good those systems are.

  • @AL5520
    @AL5520 5 місяців тому

    The lines in Lyon those are city tram lines with one car at street level with a total investment of 540m Euro (for both lines) while the Seattle extension is a 2.35B Dollar fully grade separated extension that runs 3 cars trains. In Seattle this is the only mass transit system that moved in 2023 26m passengers. In Lyon those two lines will be added to 7 existing lines that currently moved 107m passengers in 2023 and they also have 4 metro lines that moved 208m passengers in 2023 and that's without buses, regional rail, and funiculars. For compression, Sound Transit moved from Jan 2019 to Jul 2024 173m passengers and Seattle is a larger city with ~750,00 people in the city and ~4m in the metro area vs ~550,000 in the city of Lyon and ~2.3m in the Metro area. There are places in the US that, relative to other places in he US ans the problem they face, with relatively good transit but, with all due respect, that are not even close to systems in many places around the world (and not just in developed countries).

  • @OmaringOfficial
    @OmaringOfficial 5 місяців тому

    Im already in stockholm

  • @umm605.
    @umm605. 5 місяців тому

    Estonia is getting new Skoda electric trains

  • @MrDanYouTube
    @MrDanYouTube 5 місяців тому +10

    The design of Lyon trams is...controversial

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому +2

      Why do you think so?

    • @MrDanYouTube
      @MrDanYouTube 5 місяців тому +3

      @@cityforall IMO the front panel is ugly, but it is matter of personal taste

    • @fingertorturer
      @fingertorturer 5 місяців тому

      @@MrDanUA-cam why call it controversial whenn its only your opinion??

    • @Adrenaline_chaser
      @Adrenaline_chaser 5 місяців тому +7

      ​​@@MrDanUA-camit's most definitely the ugliest tram ever. Anyway, it's supposed to resemble a silk bug, as the city had quite a big silk industry. Since their reference is a disgusting looking bug the end product can't possibly be nice either 😒😒

    • @federicomarintuc
      @federicomarintuc 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Adrenaline_chaseroh, it's a bug, I was thinking other thing

  • @BLACKSTA361
    @BLACKSTA361 5 місяців тому +1

    Road to 10k Subs 👏🏿👏🏿🔔

  • @etbadaboum
    @etbadaboum 4 місяці тому

    Still no news about the latest opening of metro lines in China!

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  4 місяці тому

      Previously, I asked you for advice on which resources to use to find such news about China, but you never responded.

  • @arthurholzwarth5348
    @arthurholzwarth5348 5 місяців тому

    I would really appreciate you trying to pronounce french namens correctly, thank you

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому

      I'm trying my best, but I'm not French, so don't judge me too harshly for my mistakes :)

    • @Hepad_
      @Hepad_ 4 місяці тому

      Je pense pas que tu réussisse à prononcer les noms de villes de son pays correctement, honnêtement.

  • @geography_czek5699
    @geography_czek5699 5 місяців тому

    5:20 I am not surprised that you are confused. First of all, you probably misunderstood the news. Which I get because the reality is even more confusing and retarded than what you probably thought.
    So to make it "clear". Košice had a small working trolleybus network from 1993 up to 2015 when they stopped the service due to some construction work, but it never resumed (old trolleybuses and no political will to buy new ones probably). So the infrastructure has been there for almost 10 years unused now and the route is served by ICE buses.
    Now they for some reason (they weren't able to get a subsidy from the EU for trolleybuses) ordered new electric buses to (probably) serve a similar/same route.
    And there is the catch. Those electric buses use a different technology from others (basically the ability to charge from a trolleybus/tram charging network, not the wires themselves you probably meant and were confused about). And only one who manufactures this technology is Škoda. So those buses are like 30% more expensive than similar trolleybuses would be (not counting the battery replacement after like 5 years).
    And more so the infrastructure have costed fortune as well. Instead of repairing and using the existing infrastructure they will build new charging infra on the terminuses and depo in the same places as the existing trolleybus infra.
    Those in charge are just super incompetent and that's why it doesn't make any sense.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому

      Well, yes, I thought that it was essentially about trolleybuses with batteries that are charged while moving by trolleybus wires, which would be logical. That's why I was confused by the mention of tram wires.
      I take it this means recharging as shown at 05:53?

    • @geography_czek5699
      @geography_czek5699 5 місяців тому

      ​@@cityforall Yep, that's the problem here. They are not partial trolleybuses (or trolleybuses with batteries as you say). They don´t have the ability of in-motion charging because they don't have trolley poles but they have just that pantograph (05:53). Otherwise technologically the power delivery infrastructure is the same as for trolleybuses and trams (dvoupólové rather than čtyřpólové which is normally used for e-buses (don´t know how to translate those terms)). So you can connect the charging station "directly" from existing infrastructure.
      But it would make much more sense to use normal (or partial) trolleybuses because the infrastructure is already there.

    • @cityforall
      @cityforall  5 місяців тому

      I see. Then it's really strange that they didn't order trolleybuses with batteries.

    • @Myrtone
      @Myrtone 3 місяці тому

      @@cityforall It seems that battery-only buses are now the default in places that do not already have trolleybus wires.