A stalker leaving "gifts" (more like a calling card) is a threat. It says "I know where you live, you are not safe." This is even worse knowing she has stalked and assaulted in the past. She shows clear signs of likelihood to reoffend. This is serious and media articles should have treated it as such
Yes I absolutely agree with this. I feel like because she is not seen as the typical stalker she gets away with it by playing it off as like this cutesy thing she does once in a while.
What's scarier yet is that they try justifying the insane behavior as 'normal', like no, it is not normal to stalk someone and leave them doorstep gifts. ☠️
@@ReadswithRachel Unfortunately that's partly because of the trope of if someone says no you just need to try harder & preserver, which is used as a justification.
The way she tried to repackage her stalking as a girlboss moment is scary. It feels like she thinks she’s the vigilante protagonist from her own novel. I genuinely believe that she published that book of essays and titled it “Kathleen Hale is a Crazy Stalker” in order to cover her google search results about her stalking behavior and make it all about her book.
As this video kept going on, my main thought was, “Is she rich? She has to be rich. Who would care to write multiple articles about her brand of crazy if she wasn’t”. Then John Mulaney’s name popped up and I was like, “yep, there it is.”
This maniac is completely missing the point. It doesn’t matter if the person your stalking is a good or bad person. You are *still* in the wrong b/c your stalking someone regardless of who that person is or what they’ve done. It’s *never* okay!
And the fact that it was the published author who stuped to this type of level and not any of the reviewers regardless of how they felt about the author is quite telling and says an awful lot.
when I was a teen girl, I was stalked and threatened [physically stalked] for several years, because a couple was very lesbophobic. Stalking is TERRIFYING
Oh my god, it's literally so simple to NOT look at Goodreads, or not watch book reviews...if you know you can't handle the criticism, don't do it. This is all kinds of crazy
People like this refuse to grasp the concept that you can't control other peoples' words and actions, only your own. They think because they're not the ones who are wrong/mean/etc they should not have to do anything on their end, but they only end up hurting themselves with that mindset.
I'm so floored at the fact that Kathleen poured hydrogen peroxide on an alleged victim's head. Like, I get being 14 and being angry, but ma'am, your mother might have mol*sted a child... please don't bully her victims...
"in one review she said she was an 8th grade teacher, in another she said she was a 10th grade teacher" I mean she could easily be both, I had a teacher at my old school who taught 5th grade regularly and taught 7th grade English. When the 5th graders were at lunch and recess she'd teach one 7th grade class and when they were at the electives she'd teach the other 7th grade class. The school just blocked it so itd work because they didnt want to hire another teacher. The middle school math teacher also taught a high school math class (idk which grade i didnt pay much attention when she talked about it)
Exactly. I remember in middle school my 6th grade science teacher was also the schools gym teacher. And she was married to my 7th grade science teacher and I think subbed for him once.
As a self published author, one of the BIGGEST things I recommend ALL authors learning is that whatever customer reviews you may have, it does not equate to self worth. This is just one of many stories I’ve seen where authors can’t take criticism well. Like does everyone like my books? Absolutely not. Do I write for everyone? Nope. Am I going to harass someone for saying things like “I like this bit, but this other bit wasn’t my cup of tea”? Again, no. It just doesn’t make sense to me how common this sort of thing is within the community
There are cases where lying about your age on the internet is an issue, but really a 46 year old calling themselves 27 on a bookreview site... who cares? I couldn't even call it lying. It's just so inconsequential.
@@hannahbarbarian6786 I disagree. This person was just trying to protect her identity online. It's okay to "lie" so that other people don't have your personal information.
@@hannahbarbarian6786the only thing the blogger's behavior indicates to me is that she wanted to keep her online life separate from her personal and professional lives. It's an impulse I wish more people had, honestly
They were both 14 though, so the police, if they were even called, probably thought there was a chance she’d grow up. Unfortunately, it just shows she has a pattern now that we see she hasn’t.
She was 14 herself and had a whole bottle of it which implies that it was probably the standard 3%, which is hardly dangerous. It does burn your eyes but I'm fairly sure that it's nothing permanent.
This is the last place I expected to hear John Mulaney's name, let alone yet another piece of evidence that his comedian persona is vastly different than real life
wanted to rewatch the whole playlist, but the wild thing related to this is that she published a NEW book "Slenderman: Online Obsession, Mental Illness, and the Violent Crime of Two Midwestern Girls" WHO IS LETTING HER WRITE ON THIS
Apparently this is the downside of nepotism. If she has parents in the publishing/ tv biz that can help her secure gigs and keep them without fear of losing potential contracts, that’s a nepo baby.
Catfishing or protecting your identity online? The intent is the difference. If a person is not intending to perpetuate fraud, they’re generally not catfishing. Someone lying about their identity generally really does not affect you at all.
So why freak out about it? We all know why lol… Kath is so mentally unwell and I honestly feel compassionate towards her in some ways but god what horrific behavior
the way she explains the sequence of finding her address is so bizarre i wonder if it were obtained more nefariously. what book club wants to interview an author about a blogger of their choosing? why would the book club know and then pass along the address of a member to her? if it were something like BOTM I assume they’d handle shipping out the books internally rather than hand it over to this dangerous woman.
This is exactly why as someone who wants to published, I’ve pulled myself out of the reading/reviewing community. I do not belong there anymore. I remember when this happened and it’s just bananas.
I remember when I first heard about this and being horrified, but damn, I didn't know some of these details. I honestly feel like if there are any unsolved murders in any town Kathleen has ever lived in, the cops ought to reopen the case and haul her ass in. And God damn, authors really need to grow the absolute hell up or else quit writing if they cannot cope with someone not liking their book.
I remember this. It's why I still block Joanne Harris whenever I join a social media site because Joanne was all over this mess shaking her finger at people who were angry with Kathleen. I pointed out it was tone policing when talking to someone else about it and voila! Joanne in my business.
I think the most maddening thing about this whole highly creepy story is the number of people, who I saw siding with Hale in comments under articles written about her stalking obsession. I think commenters under the Guardian article were particularly on her side saying things like “internet trolls deserve to have their anonymity taken away” etc. ignoring the fact that Blythe was not a troll, and even if she was, stalking is still batshit and unethical, not to mention scary and scarring. It drove me nuts riding so many folks defending her. 😡😩😡 Also, I love this series of yours, you have a great way of commenting on the things you investigate succinctly and with panache. 😌
The thing that really gets me about "Judy" is that the ages work out for it to be entirely possible that Blythe was sending stuff to her mom's house because she was moving or kept getting mail stolen... or was trying to prevent exactly this situation with an internet creep finding out her IRL address. Just because someone receives mail at a location doesn't NECESSARILY mean that's their primary residence. For all Kathleen knows Blythe Harris IS a real woman. She wouldn't CARE, because it was never about that and the """"catfishing""""" was just a convenient justification for her behavior, but it's possible. All you know from someone's mailing address is their mailing address. Even if using a pen name to write reviews WAS catfishing, she still didn't have enough evidence to prove that! Especially since I'm not clear on if the phone calls happened before or after the article was published- if after, hypothetical Real Woman Blythe Harris could've let her mom know she had a stalker and not to give out information on her to strangers, explaining the inconsistencies in the phone calls. Or the """lies"""" Kathleen seems to identify in those conversations was just Actually-Blythe-Judy not wanting to out a side hustle that her IRL job might not look kindly on, on account of the pseudonym and profanity and all, and that she obviously didn't want connected to her real identity.
Honestly if i received a phone call from someone claiming just to be a "fact checker" and they were asking about me and my address I'd also claim I didn't know myself regardless of circumstances.
@@tradingfriends my thoughts exactly-- i was like "doesn't matter if she knows the name blythe harris or not, she's gotta protect herself" like most concerned people would claim total ignorance if someone called their WORK(/house/ loved one/ etc) inquiring so creepily or pretending to be someone (like a fact checker) that they knew had no reason to be calling them.
I remember all this, they should never have published her article unless it was part of a wider story on the dangers of stalking. She's going to do something really terrible one day
Well, “lil” blonde girls can get away with a lot. Her response makes it seem like she got away with it before and was used to brushing off the seriousness of it all
I’m upsetti spaghetti because I share this author’s first name and hearing “Kathleen did (insert horrible thing)” makes my built in guilty go “I’m sorry!!” 😭 Edit: So I was looking at the reviews for KH book “Kathleen Hale is a Crazy Stalker” and one particular review (you truly can’t miss it it’s a literal essay) about how while Hale shouldn’t have “stalked” Blythe, Blythe should have talked to Hale before this escalated and how Hale wasn’t being rewarded for bad behavior, she was being given a space to create art from a dark point in her life. The reviewer even goes so far as to make the argument of “How come Buzzfeed can profit from her story but Hale can’t?” Um, because she committed a damn crime and SHOULDN’T profit from it??? IDK, it was a headache to read, even if I didn’t know the context. Imagine Andrew Taint writing a book about his human trafficking crimes and this reviewer arguing “Andrew is just creating art from a dark point in his life.”
I'm nearly two years late, but as a party to the events you're talking about, I wanted to add my story. It's still such a sore subject that I had to do mental preparation just to watch your video. I was something of a popular Goodreads reviewer at the time and Blythe was a dear, dear friend of mine. We talked regularly and interacted a lot--in regards to No One Else Can Have You, even. One of KH's fans who attacked Blythe on Twitter in January 2014 also attacked me and both of us briefly interacted with KH related to that fan's behavior. When KH's article came out, I was very, very vocal in defense of my friend. KH reacted to my defense by retweeting all kinds of out of context things I'd said that she thought made me look bad. It only stopped when I blocked her and also blpcked her mother, who had decided to follow me. I was 20 at the time. That "KH is a Crazy Stalker" book expanded on her Guardian article to include a mention of Ashlee, who harassed an author bamed David Iserson. "Ashlee" was me. It's a misspelling of my former name, which I took as her very much trying to name and shame me but failing to remember the correct unusual spelling. Fact is, David and his wife had harassed ME when I was 19 because he namesearched his own book and took exception to my snark about his garbage YA book. I did not tag him or involve him. He sought me out and caused me a great deal of stress. I sought legal advice to see what I could do about Kathleen's book. Because she is rich, I'm not, and I would have to reveal my identity to fight back against someone who used someone else's identity to stalk them, there was and still is nothing I can do. All of these events were something I had to work through with a therapist, but it's still very painful to relive. And I've never heard from Blythe again. I miss her so much. She was funny as hell and had the most similar reading taste to me that anyone ever has.
As someone with OCD and a handful of other mental health issues, part of me is worried that some day I will lose my grip and do something like this author did. I've absolutely been guilty of "creeping" on people's social media profiles out of resentment or envy or just benign curiosity, and I know how easy it can be to fall down a rabbit hole and get way too invested in something/someone that shouldn't even concern you. Thankfully, I've always had the good sense to stop myself from actually contacting people or, god forbid, bothering them in real life. This story was a good reminder that hating a stranger on the internet never ends well, even if you are convinced that they are "the bad guy."
@@kimscozyreads Aww, thank you! It's not easy to admit the ways that my mental illness has often manifested in "creepy" behavior. It's embarrassing. But I think one lesson from this story is that it's not only important to monitor yourself, but also to have people around you who can look at your actions and say, "Hey, this is messed up. You need to stop." It sounds like Kathleen had a lot of enablers in her life.
If it helps you feel any better, creeping on social media is pretty normal for people, although not many admit it. If you knew the amount of people who still look up their exes, ex friends, etc, you’d probably feel loads better and less “creepy”. that’s not to enable it or say it’s healthy in anyway, but it’s truly rare to meet a person that hasn’t went down that rabbit hole before.
My God, this is a horror story! I've never heard about any of this, I was nowhere near the book community at the time. And I totally get what you said about not using your real name, sometimes I wish I had done that, too, lol.
i have read this book about 15 times (when i was a child lol) and read the sequel in 2020 but she has always been this way even before like this stalking shit came out. she has a weird reference to kippy being jealous of ruth being sa'd or murdered in the first book and people were attacking her on twitter for it (of course) and she just cannot take the criticism
also sorry i ended up here because she wrote a book about thr slenderman stabbing and i looked her up. this new one is Very sympathetic with the one stabber and almost flips the narrative so i'm trying to not continue it lol sheneven states that nobody would talk to her about the trial like. they probably looked her up...
omg. What. A. Weirdo. I am 36 years old and this is one of the most unnecessary, strangest things I've heard in my entire life. No shame in her game either. Talk about just going around just borrowing troubles. And yes the power dynamic issue like you said. I agree with you 1000 %
Recently read Hale's book about the Slender Man case and thought it was quite well-written. Searched up her name to see if she'd done any interviews about it and found this... Oof...
Not an OJ Simpson esc manifesto 😭😭😭 Kathleen, go to intensive therapy that'll actually hold you to account Publishers, drop this liability Authors need to learn to not visit Goodreads. It's just random people for the most part. Just cash your checks, it'll be ok.
It's so weird to hear this in a video this long later, but this was the reason I stopped reviewing books way back then. I wonder what it would have been like if I hadn't seen all the drama and stopped visiting goodreads for years.
This is so weird, I was literally only thinking about this book the other night and then I see this on my recommendations today. I knew there was some drama that went on with the author but I had no idea that it was THIS bad. I gave this book a 3 star rating but now I'm tempted to be petty and lower it lmao but I won't because I didn't think the book was that bad and I'm rating the book not the author, but WOOOOW. Edit: The ironic part is, a lot of the 1 star reviews on Goodreads seem to be because of her behaviour. If she had reacted like a normal adult to Blythe's review and just ignored it, the book could've had a modestly decent average score right now, maybe around 3.80. She's really her own worst enemy.
This is so absurd. I feel so bad for Blythe that they had to go through this. I can’t even begin to imaging how hard it is for them, just the loss of the sense of safety alone is traumatic enough. And side note: I’ve been using fake names on the internet since I was old enough to be on the internet like bruh, this is internet safety 101. People get way too weird about thinking they’re owed everyone’s personal business online. It’s not catfishing to not disclose your name unless you’re intentionally trying to deceive someone of something and not just like keep your private life private. And it scares me how much private info kids are dumping on the internet. It builds the kind of culture like this author genuinely thinking they’re justified and somehow “owed” Blythe’s real identity. She’s not, she never was, and regardless of the internet culture as it is right now, it’s still effed up that she ever did.
I was washing dishes and several times I turned in shock to make sure I heard you correctly because I just knew there was no that she would do these things lol. I didn’t think it would get worse and then you “wait! There’s more” me
OHMYGOD I had totally forgot about the stop the goodreads bullies site lmmfaoooooo hahahahahahaha holy shit that was a hell of a ride for reviewers back then, I ended up stopping reviewing for a few years when that was around and I never truly went back to reading the same after that. To be fair, I got management jobs at after that and my time was limited. But yeah, you couldn't say anything negative about any author without getting on that list. It was insane! You couldn't even go. "I just don't like this book." Bam! You'd end up on that site. Even a friend of mine who I think got on that site at one point, if she doesn't like a book now she just DNF and doesn't review or even post she tried, she got so sick of the doxxing and backlash, that site absolutely doxxed people.
she says she was catfished but has she considered that THE HOUSE IS A RENTAL?? or belongs to a family member she lives with or sends mail to? and even if she lied...so what? she's only reviewing books so it doesn't matter what age or job she has.
This is SO weird. When I started a youtube channel, everyone I knew told me it was a bad idea to use my name. I thought everyone knew you don't use your name as your internet identity. Also, I agree with your point that goodreads reviewers aren't seriously damaging book sales. Until I searched out booktube and booktok, I literally never heard of anyone who used Goodreads. I knew it existed, and had used it to look up publication dates, but that's it. I still don't use it to decide which books to buy. I honestly thought the reviews there were roughly equal to product reviews on Amazon: something you might glance at on the verge of purchasing, but mostly never scroll down to see.
I wanted to read more on this because it was so wild so I found an interview Kathleen gave around the release of her last book to Buzzfeed and she kept acting like "all she did" was "almost ring a woman's door bell". I truly do not think this woman understands how fucked up her actions were and thinks people are overreacting to her. I really think she thinks she is the victim in all of this. It's WILD.
I vaguely remember this happening. I was running a book community on LiveJournal and I remember it being discussed. I never paid much attention to it. Absolutely flabbergasted at how she harassed someone off of the internet because her feelings got hurt. Who approved her original article? What about the books she wrote about it afterwards? No one in her life thought to sit her down and be like, "Hey, none of this is ok." The fact that she faced no real consequences doesn't surprise me.
this case is most disconcerting because when you research this, you’re right, the general response is so casual. and Nev? basically promoting the act of stalking. I googled that and ended up finding more about him that I didn’t know 😳 anyway, wow. as a victim of stalking, this is just… and she made money off of her crime.
Hmm, “soap boxing.” As someone that suffers from complex PTSD, I also make issue with people that either romanticize trauma and/or speak on it in a way that endorses or encourages bad troupes. That needs to be called out more in our society. Those things come from a place of miseducation and we have all seen the effects of that kind of thing in our society. Calling it out isn’t on a high horse or a soapbox. It’s real life that is needed to advance the conversation in such a way that takes into account real concerns as none of us can realistically know it all. As a decent human, you hear that and you move that forward with some new knowledge. WOW. That Hale woman is something. She doesn’t understand that words don’t mean what she thinks they should mean, but what they actually are 😂
Regular book reviewers pour so much of their own life and personal stuff in their book reviews, that I really dont understand why authors cant just acknowledge that reviews on goodreads are about and for readers.
Things like this are why I put up my reviews and don’t go back to them. I feel my job is done and I don’t need to interact after that with anyone else.
this video is a year old, and this is certainly not the important part of the video, but i think the reason why "Kibby Bushman" (or however you spell it) sounds like a nineties sitcom comedic character is because of Kimmy Gibbler from Full House. Anyways, this woman is insane!
It's so bizarre to find out that she's a terrible person. I remember reading her first novel as a middle schooler and loving it. Weird when you find out these things.
I haven't and thank God for that! She was stalking someone, she has a history of behavior and she got away with it because she's related to someone who's in the TV business. I'll betcha she got away with it because she has connections and they busted out. They allowed her to be this way, it's so upsetting.
3:45 yes, i was thinking the same thing! the idea of having my real name out there gives me the icks. pretty much any of my social accounts have a nickname or pseudonym on it. im glad to hear you talk about this because i was worried if i had to use my real name if i became an author. i know plenty of people dont, but i also know that a lot of people who may publish under a pseudonym has the name linked back to their actual name like "x is actual z" you know?
I remember when the story broke out! It was bananas...the fact that this lady just went and stalked someone physically bc of a bad review is terrible. And that site for stalking reviewers. Oh how fragile some egoes are. And that Ann Rice was part of it is bonkers..bc that woman has a very, very dedicated fanbase of thousands of people and her books sell well. She's not some niche indie author who struggles to get by. She got her books made into movies(with Interview with the Vampire starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt) and recently she got a series made out of it. She makes quite a lot of money still and is prolific so idk WHY would she care about few negative GoodReads reviews when she's acclaimed author in eyes of 'professional critics' and her books are international bestsellers.
This is so wild. I remember this happening, and I was horrified! I’m an author myself, though much smaller than this woman’s sales, and I love looking at reviews. Even the bad ones! I often feel the need to defend my pov, but I try to take a day before doing so, act logically rather than swiftly. There’s a big difference between explaining, say, your experiences with PTSD and how they influenced the character vs stalking someone cause they were upset by what they considered poor representation. A bad review is an opportunity to re-evaluate and possibly improve. Not a permission slip for crime!
I grew up in a small Wisconsin on the other side of the state. Our Huckleberry delusional was shattered over multiple home burglaries taking place both day and night. They did finally catch the guy though....after he used a stolen credit card and his home shipping address.
I picked up her book a few years ago from a used bookstore then looked up reviews when I got home and found her article… safe to say I didn’t read it 😬 what was a waste of $3
So, I guess everyone on the internet that uses a screen name other than their birth name...is catfishing? Like...the PREMISE of her weak defense doesn't even add up.
As someone who worked in trad publishing as an editor - if you are traditionally published, yes you have people and money in your corner. If you are on the other hand an indie author or small press published author, no you are on equal footing. That in no excuses bad behavior, but indie authors go it alone and that is important to remember. Not all authors get the same benefits and it is highly inaccurate to assume they do. Trad authors get a lot of benefits that small press trad and indie will NEVER get.
Omg I didn’t realize that was her book in the background! I thought that was just the thumbnail art. I was wondering what book she wrote and why you didn’t put it in the thumbnail like the other videos in this series but nope that’s just the title of her book. 🤦🏾♀️ That so unhinged. The audacity!!!
I think my comment got deleted before but umm... It gets worse! There was an author who actually attacked a reviewer. If you look up Richard Brittain and review you'd prolly find the BBC article about it. Was a scary time to review books back then.
This series is an excellent complement of Jess Owens' Book CommuniTEA. I'm speechless at the shenaningans and harm going on in the bookish community. 😐
You know what I find funny about the pseudonym thing? It’s that it hasn’t occurred to this bitched that maybe MORE THAN ONE PERSON LIVES AT AN ADDRESS. Like, maybe Judy LIVE WITH Blythe? What a novel concept. 🙄
Kathleen def sounds like someone who would demand to know someone's real name on Twitter and try to Dox them, then get mad at them for giving her a fake name
Was no one else freaked out by the title of her debut novel? She basically put the world on notice with that title - as soon as you mentioned it I was like wow, she named her book after a stalker “catch phrase”, why? When it didn't seem to have anything to do with the content of the book. That's creepy as fuck. Speaking as someone who has been a victim of stalking, almost all of the communication my stalker forced upon me had something along the lines of “no one else can have you” in it.
I'm no published author but even still this looks like PR 101 to me. If I ever get lucky enough to get published, I think it'd be appropriate to have a certain amount of distance between myself and the audience. I'd read feedback but it'd all be in private, so if I had issues I'd just complain to a friend or SO or agent/editor (if that's a good idea). That way there's some time to process what the feedback means and how to understand it, especially if it's come out of left field. Here, with Kathleen Hale, she's making everything personal. REAAAALLY personal. Sure we pour our heart and soul into our writing, but if you've made it to the bookshelves then professional distance is a must. They didn't like that book? Okay, fine, they didn't like the book, but you are not the book! You'll have more coming out so you might have their attention in the future too. All she's doing is giving people reasons to avoid and dislike her on top of the book. Criticism is tough to handle, so you really have to be careful with how you approach it. If you're unprepared for criticism and you let it influence you, you can end up like Kathleen Hale.
This video is so jarring, only because the reviewers name is Blythe, which is my legal name that i dont use online, and i've never met anyone else with the name 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm feeling so called out
A stalker leaving "gifts" (more like a calling card) is a threat. It says "I know where you live, you are not safe." This is even worse knowing she has stalked and assaulted in the past. She shows clear signs of likelihood to reoffend. This is serious and media articles should have treated it as such
Yes I absolutely agree with this. I feel like because she is not seen as the typical stalker she gets away with it by playing it off as like this cutesy thing she does once in a while.
What's scarier yet is that they try justifying the insane behavior as 'normal', like no, it is not normal to stalk someone and leave them doorstep gifts. ☠️
@@ReadswithRachel Unfortunately that's partly because of the trope of if someone says no you just need to try harder & preserver, which is used as a justification.
The way she tried to repackage her stalking as a girlboss moment is scary. It feels like she thinks she’s the vigilante protagonist from her own novel. I genuinely believe that she published that book of essays and titled it “Kathleen Hale is a Crazy Stalker” in order to cover her google search results about her stalking behavior and make it all about her book.
Oh my god I hadn’t thought of that. I think you’re right.
Like when Disney made frozen to stop the public from finding out Walt was a gd frrrrreak
@@jamj4r Walt was cremated. He was a freak, but for other reasons. Why do people keep repeating this? It's not even a good conspiracy theory.
Kathleen Hale sounds like she'd make a terrifying team up with Creepshow Art
ah, i wasnt the only one thinking about creepshow 😭
Damn 🗿
Damn, could you imagine if they joined forces? The crossover we DIDN’T need
Ugh I hate both of them. Absolute creeps.
@@TimeTravelingAsshole *nor* do we want-
As this video kept going on, my main thought was, “Is she rich? She has to be rich. Who would care to write multiple articles about her brand of crazy if she wasn’t”. Then John Mulaney’s name popped up and I was like, “yep, there it is.”
This maniac is completely missing the point. It doesn’t matter if the person your stalking is a good or bad person. You are *still* in the wrong b/c your stalking someone regardless of who that person is or what they’ve done. It’s *never* okay!
And the fact that it was the published author who stuped to this type of level and not any of the reviewers regardless of how they felt about the author is quite telling and says an awful lot.
when I was a teen girl, I was stalked and threatened [physically stalked] for several years, because a couple was very lesbophobic. Stalking is TERRIFYING
Oh my god, it's literally so simple to NOT look at Goodreads, or not watch book reviews...if you know you can't handle the criticism, don't do it. This is all kinds of crazy
People like this refuse to grasp the concept that you can't control other peoples' words and actions, only your own. They think because they're not the ones who are wrong/mean/etc they should not have to do anything on their end, but they only end up hurting themselves with that mindset.
I'm so floored at the fact that Kathleen poured hydrogen peroxide on an alleged victim's head. Like, I get being 14 and being angry, but ma'am, your mother might have mol*sted a child... please don't bully her victims...
I took on a new client today who wants help with her book about cyberstalking and I was like "YOU HAVE TO ADD A SECTION ON KATHLEEN HALE".
I HOPE THEY DO
let us know when y’all drop the book!
@@infoskrimp420 I don't think this aged well because I now can't remember which client that was!
@@danecobain this follow up really made me laugh 😂
"in one review she said she was an 8th grade teacher, in another she said she was a 10th grade teacher" I mean she could easily be both, I had a teacher at my old school who taught 5th grade regularly and taught 7th grade English. When the 5th graders were at lunch and recess she'd teach one 7th grade class and when they were at the electives she'd teach the other 7th grade class. The school just blocked it so itd work because they didnt want to hire another teacher. The middle school math teacher also taught a high school math class (idk which grade i didnt pay much attention when she talked about it)
Exactly. I remember in middle school my 6th grade science teacher was also the schools gym teacher. And she was married to my 7th grade science teacher and I think subbed for him once.
Even if it’s a lie, shuffling irrelevant details is pretty common if you’re trying to stay anonymous
@@ladyj.9350 Exactly, it's something everyone *should* do to protect their privacy!
As a self published author, one of the BIGGEST things I recommend ALL authors learning is that whatever customer reviews you may have, it does not equate to self worth.
This is just one of many stories I’ve seen where authors can’t take criticism well.
Like does everyone like my books? Absolutely not. Do I write for everyone? Nope. Am I going to harass someone for saying things like “I like this bit, but this other bit wasn’t my cup of tea”? Again, no.
It just doesn’t make sense to me how common this sort of thing is within the community
There are cases where lying about your age on the internet is an issue, but really a 46 year old calling themselves 27 on a bookreview site... who cares? I couldn't even call it lying. It's just so inconsequential.
Right? It’s a nothing burger
It is lying tho & an inconsequential lie is a big indication of who they are as a person
@@hannahbarbarian6786 I disagree. This person was just trying to protect her identity online. It's okay to "lie" so that other people don't have your personal information.
@@hannahbarbarian6786the only thing the blogger's behavior indicates to me is that she wanted to keep her online life separate from her personal and professional lives. It's an impulse I wish more people had, honestly
The fact that she dumped HYDORIGNE PAROXIDE on a 14 YEAR OLD should have given her an assult on a minor charge she should be in jail PERIOD!
They were both 14 though, so the police, if they were even called, probably thought there was a chance she’d grow up. Unfortunately, it just shows she has a pattern now that we see she hasn’t.
not many cops are going to arrest an 8th grade girl for defending her mom
*hydrogen peroxide
Hydrogen peroxide. You’re welcome
She was 14 herself and had a whole bottle of it which implies that it was probably the standard 3%, which is hardly dangerous. It does burn your eyes but I'm fairly sure that it's nothing permanent.
She POURED hydrogen peroxide on a girl??? HOW is she not in prison??
This is the last place I expected to hear John Mulaney's name, let alone yet another piece of evidence that his comedian persona is vastly different than real life
Alternate video title: a wild John Mulaney appears.
@@ReadswithRachel I'm sure that's a social media series somewhere 😂😂
wanted to rewatch the whole playlist, but the wild thing related to this is that she published a NEW book "Slenderman: Online Obsession, Mental Illness, and the Violent Crime of Two Midwestern Girls" WHO IS LETTING HER WRITE ON THIS
WHAT
wild
That is extremely distasteful and nasty. Ugh
Apparently this is the downside of nepotism. If she has parents in the publishing/ tv biz that can help her secure gigs and keep them without fear of losing potential contracts, that’s a nepo baby.
oh she is one to talk
Catfishing or protecting your identity online? The intent is the difference. If a person is not intending to perpetuate fraud, they’re generally not catfishing. Someone lying about their identity generally really does not affect you at all.
So why freak out about it? We all know why lol… Kath is so mentally unwell and I honestly feel compassionate towards her in some ways but god what horrific behavior
the way she explains the sequence of finding her address is so bizarre i wonder if it were obtained more nefariously. what book club wants to interview an author about a blogger of their choosing? why would the book club know and then pass along the address of a member to her? if it were something like BOTM I assume they’d handle shipping out the books internally rather than hand it over to this dangerous woman.
This is exactly why as someone who wants to published, I’ve pulled myself out of the reading/reviewing community. I do not belong there anymore. I remember when this happened and it’s just bananas.
I remember when I first heard about this and being horrified, but damn, I didn't know some of these details. I honestly feel like if there are any unsolved murders in any town Kathleen has ever lived in, the cops ought to reopen the case and haul her ass in. And God damn, authors really need to grow the absolute hell up or else quit writing if they cannot cope with someone not liking their book.
I remember this. It's why I still block Joanne Harris whenever I join a social media site because Joanne was all over this mess shaking her finger at people who were angry with Kathleen. I pointed out it was tone policing when talking to someone else about it and voila! Joanne in my business.
I think the most maddening thing about this whole highly creepy story is the number of people, who I saw siding with Hale in comments under articles written about her stalking obsession. I think commenters under the Guardian article were particularly on her side saying things like “internet trolls deserve to have their anonymity taken away” etc. ignoring the fact that Blythe was not a troll, and even if she was, stalking is still batshit and unethical, not to mention scary and scarring. It drove me nuts riding so many folks defending her. 😡😩😡
Also, I love this series of yours, you have a great way of commenting on the things you investigate succinctly and with panache. 😌
The thing that really gets me about "Judy" is that the ages work out for it to be entirely possible that Blythe was sending stuff to her mom's house because she was moving or kept getting mail stolen... or was trying to prevent exactly this situation with an internet creep finding out her IRL address. Just because someone receives mail at a location doesn't NECESSARILY mean that's their primary residence. For all Kathleen knows Blythe Harris IS a real woman. She wouldn't CARE, because it was never about that and the """"catfishing""""" was just a convenient justification for her behavior, but it's possible. All you know from someone's mailing address is their mailing address. Even if using a pen name to write reviews WAS catfishing, she still didn't have enough evidence to prove that! Especially since I'm not clear on if the phone calls happened before or after the article was published- if after, hypothetical Real Woman Blythe Harris could've let her mom know she had a stalker and not to give out information on her to strangers, explaining the inconsistencies in the phone calls. Or the """lies"""" Kathleen seems to identify in those conversations was just Actually-Blythe-Judy not wanting to out a side hustle that her IRL job might not look kindly on, on account of the pseudonym and profanity and all, and that she obviously didn't want connected to her real identity.
Honestly if i received a phone call from someone claiming just to be a "fact checker" and they were asking about me and my address I'd also claim I didn't know myself regardless of circumstances.
@@tradingfriends my thoughts exactly-- i was like "doesn't matter if she knows the name blythe harris or not, she's gotta protect herself"
like most concerned people would claim total ignorance if someone called their WORK(/house/ loved one/ etc) inquiring so creepily or pretending to be someone (like a fact checker) that they knew had no reason to be calling them.
I remember all this, they should never have published her article unless it was part of a wider story on the dangers of stalking. She's going to do something really terrible one day
Well, “lil” blonde girls can get away with a lot. Her response makes it seem like she got away with it before and was used to brushing off the seriousness of it all
I’m upsetti spaghetti because I share this author’s first name and hearing “Kathleen did (insert horrible thing)” makes my built in guilty go “I’m sorry!!” 😭
Edit: So I was looking at the reviews for KH book “Kathleen Hale is a Crazy Stalker” and one particular review (you truly can’t miss it it’s a literal essay) about how while Hale shouldn’t have “stalked” Blythe, Blythe should have talked to Hale before this escalated and how Hale wasn’t being rewarded for bad behavior, she was being given a space to create art from a dark point in her life. The reviewer even goes so far as to make the argument of “How come Buzzfeed can profit from her story but Hale can’t?” Um, because she committed a damn crime and SHOULDN’T profit from it???
IDK, it was a headache to read, even if I didn’t know the context. Imagine Andrew Taint writing a book about his human trafficking crimes and this reviewer arguing “Andrew is just creating art from a dark point in his life.”
He will release a book of poems if they don't pour hate into his heart.
Probably she (Kathleen) wrote that herself.
I'm nearly two years late, but as a party to the events you're talking about, I wanted to add my story. It's still such a sore subject that I had to do mental preparation just to watch your video.
I was something of a popular Goodreads reviewer at the time and Blythe was a dear, dear friend of mine. We talked regularly and interacted a lot--in regards to No One Else Can Have You, even. One of KH's fans who attacked Blythe on Twitter in January 2014 also attacked me and both of us briefly interacted with KH related to that fan's behavior.
When KH's article came out, I was very, very vocal in defense of my friend. KH reacted to my defense by retweeting all kinds of out of context things I'd said that she thought made me look bad. It only stopped when I blocked her and also blpcked her mother, who had decided to follow me. I was 20 at the time.
That "KH is a Crazy Stalker" book expanded on her Guardian article to include a mention of Ashlee, who harassed an author bamed David Iserson.
"Ashlee" was me. It's a misspelling of my former name, which I took as her very much trying to name and shame me but failing to remember the correct unusual spelling. Fact is, David and his wife had harassed ME when I was 19 because he namesearched his own book and took exception to my snark about his garbage YA book. I did not tag him or involve him. He sought me out and caused me a great deal of stress.
I sought legal advice to see what I could do about Kathleen's book. Because she is rich, I'm not, and I would have to reveal my identity to fight back against someone who used someone else's identity to stalk them, there was and still is nothing I can do.
All of these events were something I had to work through with a therapist, but it's still very painful to relive. And I've never heard from Blythe again. I miss her so much. She was funny as hell and had the most similar reading taste to me that anyone ever has.
As someone with OCD and a handful of other mental health issues, part of me is worried that some day I will lose my grip and do something like this author did. I've absolutely been guilty of "creeping" on people's social media profiles out of resentment or envy or just benign curiosity, and I know how easy it can be to fall down a rabbit hole and get way too invested in something/someone that shouldn't even concern you. Thankfully, I've always had the good sense to stop myself from actually contacting people or, god forbid, bothering them in real life. This story was a good reminder that hating a stranger on the internet never ends well, even if you are convinced that they are "the bad guy."
It's rad to admit and self monitor how you're doing with boundaries
Much respect
@@kimscozyreads Aww, thank you! It's not easy to admit the ways that my mental illness has often manifested in "creepy" behavior. It's embarrassing. But I think one lesson from this story is that it's not only important to monitor yourself, but also to have people around you who can look at your actions and say, "Hey, this is messed up. You need to stop." It sounds like Kathleen had a lot of enablers in her life.
If you are worried about it you probably won’t do this
If it helps you feel any better, creeping on social media is pretty normal for people, although not many admit it. If you knew the amount of people who still look up their exes, ex friends, etc, you’d probably feel loads better and less “creepy”. that’s not to enable it or say it’s healthy in anyway, but it’s truly rare to meet a person that hasn’t went down that rabbit hole before.
As long as you keep that common sense, you have nothing to worry about
So a critic using a pseudonym is catfishing in her mind?
By that logic, everyone who has a username that isn't their real name is a catfisher!
My God, this is a horror story! I've never heard about any of this, I was nowhere near the book community at the time. And I totally get what you said about not using your real name, sometimes I wish I had done that, too, lol.
i have read this book about 15 times (when i was a child lol) and read the sequel in 2020 but she has always been this way even before like this stalking shit came out. she has a weird reference to kippy being jealous of ruth being sa'd or murdered in the first book and people were attacking her on twitter for it (of course) and she just cannot take the criticism
also sorry i ended up here because she wrote a book about thr slenderman stabbing and i looked her up. this new one is Very sympathetic with the one stabber and almost flips the narrative so i'm trying to not continue it lol sheneven states that nobody would talk to her about the trial like. they probably looked her up...
@@cal6137 wtf???
What?!
This is the EXACT REASON I go by Nox online and not my legal name.
I got jumpscared by the mulaney mention and I'm so confused right now. What the hell happened
omg. What. A. Weirdo. I am 36 years old and this is one of the most unnecessary, strangest things I've heard in my entire life. No shame in her game either. Talk about just going around just borrowing troubles. And yes the power dynamic issue like you said. I agree with you 1000 %
The way you said “but I think the worst offence is THE STALKING”
😅😅😅
“How do you know she hurt my feelings”😂😂😂😂
I think I heard about this when her essay book came out & hearing more of the details is horrifying 😬
I remember hearing about this!! I was so horrified and some authors are so unhinged and i think authors forget that there’s a power dynamic?
damn everything makes her sound like the kind of person who will eventually escalate her crimes
Recently read Hale's book about the Slender Man case and thought it was quite well-written. Searched up her name to see if she'd done any interviews about it and found this... Oof...
Not an OJ Simpson esc manifesto 😭😭😭
Kathleen, go to intensive therapy that'll actually hold you to account
Publishers, drop this liability
Authors need to learn to not visit Goodreads. It's just random people for the most part. Just cash your checks, it'll be ok.
It's so weird to hear this in a video this long later, but this was the reason I stopped reviewing books way back then. I wonder what it would have been like if I hadn't seen all the drama and stopped visiting goodreads for years.
This is so weird, I was literally only thinking about this book the other night and then I see this on my recommendations today. I knew there was some drama that went on with the author but I had no idea that it was THIS bad. I gave this book a 3 star rating but now I'm tempted to be petty and lower it lmao but I won't because I didn't think the book was that bad and I'm rating the book not the author, but WOOOOW.
Edit: The ironic part is, a lot of the 1 star reviews on Goodreads seem to be because of her behaviour. If she had reacted like a normal adult to Blythe's review and just ignored it, the book could've had a modestly decent average score right now, maybe around 3.80. She's really her own worst enemy.
This is so absurd. I feel so bad for Blythe that they had to go through this. I can’t even begin to imaging how hard it is for them, just the loss of the sense of safety alone is traumatic enough.
And side note: I’ve been using fake names on the internet since I was old enough to be on the internet like bruh, this is internet safety 101. People get way too weird about thinking they’re owed everyone’s personal business online. It’s not catfishing to not disclose your name unless you’re intentionally trying to deceive someone of something and not just like keep your private life private. And it scares me how much private info kids are dumping on the internet. It builds the kind of culture like this author genuinely thinking they’re justified and somehow “owed” Blythe’s real identity. She’s not, she never was, and regardless of the internet culture as it is right now, it’s still effed up that she ever did.
I was washing dishes and several times I turned in shock to make sure I heard you correctly because I just knew there was no that she would do these things lol. I didn’t think it would get worse and then you “wait! There’s more” me
did nobody at the guardian read this article before they posted it?????? did they just go "wordcount's good, post that shit"????????
OHMYGOD I had totally forgot about the stop the goodreads bullies site lmmfaoooooo hahahahahahaha holy shit that was a hell of a ride for reviewers back then, I ended up stopping reviewing for a few years when that was around and I never truly went back to reading the same after that. To be fair, I got management jobs at after that and my time was limited. But yeah, you couldn't say anything negative about any author without getting on that list. It was insane! You couldn't even go. "I just don't like this book." Bam! You'd end up on that site. Even a friend of mine who I think got on that site at one point, if she doesn't like a book now she just DNF and doesn't review or even post she tried, she got so sick of the doxxing and backlash, that site absolutely doxxed people.
she says she was catfished but has she considered that THE HOUSE IS A RENTAL?? or belongs to a family member she lives with or sends mail to? and even if she lied...so what? she's only reviewing books so it doesn't matter what age or job she has.
This is SO weird. When I started a youtube channel, everyone I knew told me it was a bad idea to use my name. I thought everyone knew you don't use your name as your internet identity.
Also, I agree with your point that goodreads reviewers aren't seriously damaging book sales. Until I searched out booktube and booktok, I literally never heard of anyone who used Goodreads. I knew it existed, and had used it to look up publication dates, but that's it. I still don't use it to decide which books to buy. I honestly thought the reviews there were roughly equal to product reviews on Amazon: something you might glance at on the verge of purchasing, but mostly never scroll down to see.
Oooo I really would love a video about ageism in the book community both of authors and reviewers and just fans!
I wanted to read more on this because it was so wild so I found an interview Kathleen gave around the release of her last book to Buzzfeed and she kept acting like "all she did" was "almost ring a woman's door bell". I truly do not think this woman understands how fucked up her actions were and thinks people are overreacting to her. I really think she thinks she is the victim in all of this. It's WILD.
What book do we think Rachel is gonna get when Kathleen shows up at her house
That weirdo is a poorly written psychotic sitcom villain.
What a nightmare!! It's terrifying that people like this exist and go unhinged on someone who...had an opinion? And existed nearby? Uggggh
This came up randomly in my algorithm and I can’t wait to dive deep into the drama of authors behaving badly 😂
I vaguely remember this happening. I was running a book community on LiveJournal and I remember it being discussed. I never paid much attention to it. Absolutely flabbergasted at how she harassed someone off of the internet because her feelings got hurt. Who approved her original article? What about the books she wrote about it afterwards? No one in her life thought to sit her down and be like, "Hey, none of this is ok." The fact that she faced no real consequences doesn't surprise me.
People saying something ridiculous or controversial then adding 'just saying' or 'just asking questions'. Passive aggressive. 🙄
this case is most disconcerting because when you research this, you’re right, the general response is so casual. and Nev? basically promoting the act of stalking. I googled that and ended up finding more about him that I didn’t know 😳 anyway, wow. as a victim of stalking, this is just… and she made money off of her crime.
Hmm, “soap boxing.” As someone that suffers from complex PTSD, I also make issue with people that either romanticize trauma and/or speak on it in a way that endorses or encourages bad troupes. That needs to be called out more in our society. Those things come from a place of miseducation and we have all seen the effects of that kind of thing in our society. Calling it out isn’t on a high horse or a soapbox. It’s real life that is needed to advance the conversation in such a way that takes into account real concerns as none of us can realistically know it all. As a decent human, you hear that and you move that forward with some new knowledge.
WOW. That Hale woman is something. She doesn’t understand that words don’t mean what she thinks they should mean, but what they actually are 😂
Makes me think of when Lesley Knope tracked down that voter who didn’t like her and went bowling with him, but way more terrifying.
I dare her to stalk me. She would regret it. Crazy never plans on meeting someone crazier. 🙃
I remember when I first really got into Booktube and reviewing books on goodreads I ran into this mess and it was soooo interesting
Regular book reviewers pour so much of their own life and personal stuff in their book reviews, that I really dont understand why authors cant just acknowledge that reviews on goodreads are about and for readers.
Things like this are why I put up my reviews and don’t go back to them. I feel my job is done and I don’t need to interact after that with anyone else.
this video is a year old, and this is certainly not the important part of the video, but i think the reason why "Kibby Bushman" (or however you spell it) sounds like a nineties sitcom comedic character is because of Kimmy Gibbler from Full House. Anyways, this woman is insane!
The craziest thing about that article was that people in the comments were actually agreeing with this woman
Wow. That was a wild and terrifying ride. No words. Just. Wow.
Kippy Bushman is clearly a walmart brand Kimmy Gibbler.
Oh my god… you’re right. That is where my brain got that from. I can’t ever read her book now I’ll just imagine the main character as Gibbler.
It's so bizarre to find out that she's a terrible person. I remember reading her first novel as a middle schooler and loving it. Weird when you find out these things.
I haven't and thank God for that! She was stalking someone, she has a history of behavior and she got away with it because she's related to someone who's in the TV business. I'll betcha she got away with it because she has connections and they busted out. They allowed her to be this way, it's so upsetting.
3:45 yes, i was thinking the same thing! the idea of having my real name out there gives me the icks. pretty much any of my social accounts have a nickname or pseudonym on it. im glad to hear you talk about this because i was worried if i had to use my real name if i became an author. i know plenty of people dont, but i also know that a lot of people who may publish under a pseudonym has the name linked back to their actual name like "x is actual z" you know?
poor blythe :(
Imagine if the online community banded together against her.
We'd get another book from her afterwards
This is pure insanity.
I remember when the story broke out! It was bananas...the fact that this lady just went and stalked someone physically bc of a bad review is terrible. And that site for stalking reviewers. Oh how fragile some egoes are. And that Ann Rice was part of it is bonkers..bc that woman has a very, very dedicated fanbase of thousands of people and her books sell well. She's not some niche indie author who struggles to get by. She got her books made into movies(with Interview with the Vampire starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt) and recently she got a series made out of it. She makes quite a lot of money still and is prolific so idk WHY would she care about few negative GoodReads reviews when she's acclaimed author in eyes of 'professional critics' and her books are international bestsellers.
Anne Rice died a while back.
holy shit the hydtrogen peroxide thing... sociopathic
This is so wild. I remember this happening, and I was horrified! I’m an author myself, though much smaller than this woman’s sales, and I love looking at reviews. Even the bad ones! I often feel the need to defend my pov, but I try to take a day before doing so, act logically rather than swiftly. There’s a big difference between explaining, say, your experiences with PTSD and how they influenced the character vs stalking someone cause they were upset by what they considered poor representation. A bad review is an opportunity to re-evaluate and possibly improve. Not a permission slip for crime!
Slightly unrelated my dog is from Friendship, Wisconsin. It’s all farms, fields, a couple bars, a gas station, and a church.
I grew up in a small Wisconsin on the other side of the state. Our Huckleberry delusional was shattered over multiple home burglaries taking place both day and night. They did finally catch the guy though....after he used a stolen credit card and his home shipping address.
How has she not been arrested ?
I picked up her book a few years ago from a used bookstore then looked up reviews when I got home and found her article… safe to say I didn’t read it 😬 what was a waste of $3
Ok, I'm not even sure how I got to this video but you are funny af and entertaining to watch hitting the sub button
This is so not okay. I hope she reported this information to the police.
So, I guess everyone on the internet that uses a screen name other than their birth name...is catfishing? Like...the PREMISE of her weak defense doesn't even add up.
As someone who worked in trad publishing as an editor - if you are traditionally published, yes you have people and money in your corner. If you are on the other hand an indie author or small press published author, no you are on equal footing. That in no excuses bad behavior, but indie authors go it alone and that is important to remember. Not all authors get the same benefits and it is highly inaccurate to assume they do. Trad authors get a lot of benefits that small press trad and indie will NEVER get.
Omg I didn’t realize that was her book in the background! I thought that was just the thumbnail art. I was wondering what book she wrote and why you didn’t put it in the thumbnail like the other videos in this series but nope that’s just the title of her book. 🤦🏾♀️ That so unhinged. The audacity!!!
I think my comment got deleted before but umm... It gets worse! There was an author who actually attacked a reviewer.
If you look up Richard Brittain and review you'd prolly find the BBC article about it.
Was a scary time to review books back then.
WHOA I had not heard about this before. Might be my next video!
This series is an excellent complement of Jess Owens' Book CommuniTEA. I'm speechless at the shenaningans and harm going on in the bookish community.
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Yesssss bless Jess!!! She works hard for us and I appreciate it
This woman stalked someone, and profited off it? In what world is that a thing??
America 💔
You know what I find funny about the pseudonym thing? It’s that it hasn’t occurred to this bitched that maybe MORE THAN ONE PERSON LIVES AT AN ADDRESS. Like, maybe Judy LIVE WITH Blythe? What a novel concept. 🙄
Kathleen def sounds like someone who would demand to know someone's real name on Twitter and try to Dox them, then get mad at them for giving her a fake name
Kathleen Hale is the type of villain that Law and Order: SVU would make an episode about, tbh.
"ya author turned stalker" is it bad im not surprised
Was no one else freaked out by the title of her debut novel? She basically put the world on notice with that title - as soon as you mentioned it I was like wow, she named her book after a stalker “catch phrase”, why? When it didn't seem to have anything to do with the content of the book. That's creepy as fuck. Speaking as someone who has been a victim of stalking, almost all of the communication my stalker forced upon me had something along the lines of “no one else can have you” in it.
Oh because god for-fucking-bid someone not like your book or feel safer using a nickname online. What a nightmare.
I'm no published author but even still this looks like PR 101 to me. If I ever get lucky enough to get published, I think it'd be appropriate to have a certain amount of distance between myself and the audience. I'd read feedback but it'd all be in private, so if I had issues I'd just complain to a friend or SO or agent/editor (if that's a good idea). That way there's some time to process what the feedback means and how to understand it, especially if it's come out of left field. Here, with Kathleen Hale, she's making everything personal. REAAAALLY personal. Sure we pour our heart and soul into our writing, but if you've made it to the bookshelves then professional distance is a must. They didn't like that book? Okay, fine, they didn't like the book, but you are not the book! You'll have more coming out so you might have their attention in the future too. All she's doing is giving people reasons to avoid and dislike her on top of the book. Criticism is tough to handle, so you really have to be careful with how you approach it. If you're unprepared for criticism and you let it influence you, you can end up like Kathleen Hale.
This video is so jarring, only because the reviewers name is Blythe, which is my legal name that i dont use online, and i've never met anyone else with the name 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm feeling so called out
This is wild. I'm not in the know with the booktok community but i love seeing the big highlights omg
SHE SHOWED UP AT HER HOUSE?!?!
its always the creepy looking nepotism baby 😭
This is so horrific! Ugh. Never reading anything she writes.
This. Is. Wild.