GUITAR CAB SHOOTOUT - Battle of the 4x12's!

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  • Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
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    A perfectly serious, yet unscientific, comparison of the 4x12 cabs I have in my studio. What's your favorite?! Comment below!
    GEAR USED:
    Bondi Sick As, Marshall JMP 2203, Mesa Dual Rectifier Rev G. Mics were two Shure Unidyne III SM57s in fredman mic pattern.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 73

  • @claytongouin5605
    @claytongouin5605 17 днів тому +2

    That Mesa V30 and SM57 combo is a classic for a reason. The guitars just sit in place and gives so much room for the drums and bass. The guitars also jumped out and were more in your face with the Mesa V30. Tried and true.
    The Mesa Creamback and the Orange Greenback were also great sounding. More mid to low-mid focused. I've never liked the sound of the Orange PPC V30 cab. They always sounded wooly, muffled, and loose to me, but a Greenback worked wonders in that cab.
    All in all, I would probably use different cabs for different tones, allowing the ambient, rhythm, and lead parts to sit better with each other. But this was a great example of the importance of your cab and speaker in your signal chain.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  14 днів тому

      oh for sure, it would be a 900 hour video if I broke down EVERY combination together, but the idea of using different cabs for different tones is EXACTLY the move I would make in a tracking/mixing scenario also!
      also yep, mesa v30 + sm57 is never wrong, that's what I always say!
      Orange cabs have also been a love/hate thing with me, bc on one hand nothing sounds like it which is cool for some things, but on the other hand nothing sounds like it.. for a reason haha

  • @nuts0that
    @nuts0that 7 днів тому +1

    Greenbacks sound great. Especially in the Orange. I thought the basic bitch T75 did a good job too.

  • @oskarwroniewicz
    @oskarwroniewicz 11 місяців тому +4

    Came from the no dialog video, and now I'm even more stunned by the content quality. As for the cabs:
    1. Mesa Creamback
    2. Orange Greenback
    3. Marshall Greenback

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  11 місяців тому

      appreciate the love man! that creamback is a killer speaker!

  • @ayeapprove
    @ayeapprove Рік тому +4

    Okay the Mesa V30 is the gold standard
    I also loved the greenback in the Orange
    and number 3 is a speaker that I used to hate with a passion: T75 in the 1960A
    I think a blend of the Mesa + Orange would be KILLER!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому +1

      it 100% is. my band did a cover that'll come out someday haha, but its mesa v30 and orange v30 blended and BOY does it rule.
      and yeah the 1960a is a SLEEPER pick man, its so fat sounding.

  • @Erock503
    @Erock503 2 місяці тому +3

    very cool vid. Mesa V30, Marshall T75, and Orange/greenbacks were my favs. I used to think 75's were junk until owning them, too much listening to the internet.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  2 місяці тому +2

      that's the REAL truth! Too many people saying things that they heard someone else say that they heard someone else say that they heard someone else say that they heard someone else say..

  • @jeffsternon5062
    @jeffsternon5062 23 дні тому +1

    Awesome tones and great content man, you got yourself a sub !

  • @brianbeattie4358
    @brianbeattie4358 Місяць тому

    Marshall Greenback #1. Then the Marshall 75s #2. Then the Orange w/ greenbacks. All sounded super rad, though.

  • @jalapainyo
    @jalapainyo Рік тому +2

    Context is everything in choosing guitar tones for the mix. Great job. Cheers!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому +1

      most definitely, that's the hardest part of trying to pick a "best" combination!

  • @andyblakely7576
    @andyblakely7576 8 місяців тому +5

    1. Orange Green back
    2. Mesa creamback
    3. Orange v30

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому +2

      ohhhhhh yeahhhhh great minds think alike

    • @andyblakely7576
      @andyblakely7576 8 місяців тому +2

      @@CoryBrunnemannThanks for doing such a great shootout! I might mix in two cream backs or green backs into my ppc now.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому +2

      @@andyblakely7576 I love that cab, and I espcially love having the options!

  • @LesonDeson
    @LesonDeson Рік тому +4

    Mesa V30
    Marshall Celestion T75

  • @Jrockneta
    @Jrockneta 4 місяці тому +1

    Great, thanks!!!

  • @user-vk9ih7bw9y
    @user-vk9ih7bw9y 8 місяців тому +2

    Great Video! They all sounded good, but I feel the creamback Mesa was arguably first, then the v30 Mesa. Surprisingly, I really liked the g12t75 in the jcm900 cab for third...

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  7 місяців тому

      The 1960 t75 is a shocker IMO, sounds WAY better than people give it credit for

  • @jeffsternon5062
    @jeffsternon5062 22 дні тому +1

    Also, can you please specify which type of greenback is used in the orange cab ? sounds awesome !

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  14 днів тому

      its taken from the Marshall TV cab, made-in-england Greenback, sorry I'm not sure more than that!

  • @journeymanbryan154
    @journeymanbryan154 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  9 місяців тому

      Thanks so much it was a lot of fun to make!

  • @sebastianhernandez5364
    @sebastianhernandez5364 7 місяців тому +1

    The basson has killer low end

  • @HoshiFanatic
    @HoshiFanatic Рік тому +1

    I love vids like this. I noticed I wasnt as picky with the cabs when it came to the metal recordings, especially with low tunings.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому +1

      For me the determining factor for what I like best with low tunings is how does the low end get handled? Don’t want just massive woof. And then it’s a matter of taste

  • @Kanthon
    @Kanthon 2 місяці тому +1

    Fredman is 55°, not 45°.
    My favorite is the Greenback for that woody grind, then G12T-75 and Vintage 30.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  2 місяці тому

      yep you're correct, that's my brain just looking at it and going "duh that looks like 45" haha! The Black Moon Recordings clip make me not have to think any more!

  • @scottkaleo842
    @scottkaleo842 Рік тому +2

    You should make cabinet impulses for all these.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому

      I wish I would have, but also if I did that, I'd want to do more comprehensive than just fred57 setup I think!

    • @scottkaleo842
      @scottkaleo842 Рік тому

      @@CoryBrunnemann That would be rad.

  • @matthuang4632
    @matthuang4632 8 місяців тому +2

    1. MESA V30
    2. ORANGE GREENBACK
    3. MARSHALL T75

  • @Johnsalad
    @Johnsalad 8 місяців тому

    Subscribed!

  • @thedatabody
    @thedatabody 5 місяців тому

    1. Mesa Oversized w/ Creamback
    2. Marshall 1960TV w/ Greenback
    3. Orange PPC w/ Greenback
    Guess I like a little bit more mid bump rather than scoop. Which is funny because when an amp is in the room, I always prefer the feel when mids are scooped and there are more lows and highs, but on stage I always turn the mids up more on mid scooped cabs with v30s, just for more presence and clarity in a live mix.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  5 місяців тому +1

      yesssss the amp in the room sound is deceiving when it comes to recording and what sounds great in a mix!

  • @JacobPetrossian
    @JacobPetrossian 8 місяців тому

    Great shootout vid, awesome production! Just a suggestion, chapters would really help with this kind of vid.
    Keep up the good work, Cory!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому

      hmm they're supposed to be there, I'll get on it!

  • @Markgov
    @Markgov Рік тому +1

    Great video! Kind of curious if there's a cab or two that you end up using the most or if it really depends on the project.

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому +1

      Of course, I’m gunna address that in a future video after getting a bunch of comments!

  • @ThornWithin
    @ThornWithin 2 місяці тому +1

    All great guitar tones aside, those drums man, damn...

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks my man! First song is actually live drums from a country song I wrote with a guy, I just took the drum mix out, and wrote a rock riff to them haha! Second one is some MIDI stuff I wrote up for this!

    • @ThornWithin
      @ThornWithin 2 місяці тому

      @@CoryBrunnemann haha awesome! :D

  • @scheltemadrums460
    @scheltemadrums460 Рік тому +1

    Mesa supremacy

  • @Darth.Shredder
    @Darth.Shredder 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice riffage! I'm not a big T-75 fan but that Marshall 900 was pretty killer in this demo.... For me though, the Orange with Greenbacks comes out on top. Even with the basketweave cloth that typically tames some of the celestion "rattle" they really pop in that cabinet. I'm guessing the Creamback in the Mesa is the H not the M? The Basson is definitely at the bottom. That being said...in THIS shootout... Orange Greenback > Marshall T75 > Orange V30... the Mesa V30 would be runner up. Good job!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  2 місяці тому +1

      Love all the insight! Unfortunately I’m not the most knowledgeable on gear so idk what H vs M for the creamback is or what I have.
      And yeah I was never a t75 fan but I was put onto them by Mark Lewis talking about his affinity for 1960b cabs. I got an A for a good deal and just decided to rock it for a bit!

    • @Darth.Shredder
      @Darth.Shredder 2 місяці тому

      @@CoryBrunnemann Right on! Well, you definitely did a great job. I'll check out your other videos for sure. The Creamback H has more highs and output than the M, which is a little smoother and darker. The output sensitivity of the M is similar to the T-75 and Greenback while the H is more like a V30 (100db). That's why I figured yours is the H (sounds a little brighter) but I could be wrong. There's the H75, M65 and the Neo... basically 3 different magnets that affect the sound and output. I like them all, but if I had to chose one, it would be the M but we all know tone is subjective.

  • @figsworld6977
    @figsworld6977 4 місяці тому +1

    Wish you dident change the speakers in the cabs. Really would have loved the audio with the stock speakers. 😀

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  4 місяці тому

      I did all the stock speakers AND changed speakers in the video! So they're both there, you can even compare the stock to the replaced speakers!

  • @TonyEvansMusic1
    @TonyEvansMusic1 Рік тому +1

    1. Mesa Creamback( is it 65 or 75?) 2. Mesa V30 or vice versa 3. Marshall t75

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому +1

      I THINK 65… I’ll have to check on it when I can!

  • @thomaskucera2052
    @thomaskucera2052 7 місяців тому +1

    For riff 1, I like 1960TV with the greenback the best. I also like the Mesa V30. The Marshall 1960 with the g12t-75 sounds the worst to me for this riff, but for riff 2 I like the 1960 g12t-75 best

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  7 місяців тому

      The 1960TV cab is so slept on, I used it for my bands album exclusively on the main rhythm tracks. It’s different, it breaks up nicely, I love it.

  • @aheadofmetal
    @aheadofmetal 8 місяців тому +1

    Well done test man. Why'd you go with the friedman technique? Just curious

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому

      I don’t love single mic setups, and the friedman is an easily repeatable combo with the clip!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому

      Also, I do like the way it sounds, so that’s a plus haha

    • @aheadofmetal
      @aheadofmetal 8 місяців тому +1

      @@CoryBrunnemann that's cool man. Ive tracked a few albums with the friedman technique but had mixed results. Most of the videos i post now are straight on, but I use many microphones on different speakers and blend however the mix calls for. Anyways, cheers!

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  8 місяців тому +1

      @@aheadofmetal I def like the straight on mic louder, not both mics even volume

  • @Blinkme120
    @Blinkme120 Рік тому +1

    1) orange celestion
    2) orange celestion
    3) orange celestion

    • @CoryBrunnemann
      @CoryBrunnemann  Рік тому

      they're both celestions fool, v30 or greenback?

    • @Blinkme120
      @Blinkme120 Рік тому

      @@CoryBrunnemann oops I am 20 IQ but the greenbacks 150%

  • @aaronpace7885
    @aaronpace7885 Рік тому +1

    Mesa Creamback
    Marshall V30
    Orange V30

  • @MrKnisterable
    @MrKnisterable 13 днів тому +1

    10:03

  • @loganwarnermusic
    @loganwarnermusic Рік тому

    @4:39

  • @loganwarnermusic
    @loganwarnermusic Рік тому

    @5:34

  • @loganwarnermusic
    @loganwarnermusic Рік тому

    @4:12

  • @lbonvillain-wm4ds
    @lbonvillain-wm4ds 2 місяці тому

    mesa oversized celestians takes it