Imam Shamil - Abdal Hakim Murad: Paradigms of Leadership

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  • Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad tells the story of Imam Shamil, political, military, and spiritual leader of Caucasian resistance to Imperial Russia in the 1800s. He is the first of many exemplary figures in Islamic history in this series.
    This talk was delivered on October 20, 2018.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 142

  • @circassianmamluk9612
    @circassianmamluk9612 3 роки тому +211

    I am Circassian; we are a Muslim people native to the Caucasus mountains
    We resisted the Russian imperial onslaught for over one hundred years; in the end they wiped out half our population and expelled the remainder of us from our homeland
    May Allah ﷻ have mercy upon the Muslims who died resisting oppression

    • @aadilqayoom6872
      @aadilqayoom6872 3 роки тому +4

      The day I heard about my brother s and sisters being slaughtered by the infidel s I m so much depressed that nothing comes to my mind except your pain
      May Allah SWT bless all of the shudaah WD jannah and forgive all of us ,shame on killers ,I often wonder why our most merciful lord has created hell but know I m thankful to him to make me understand why he has created hell where would crusaders, russian s who killed our Circassian ,Tartars, colonials,modern West go ,it is for them the most compassionate God has created hell

    • @newmin8705
      @newmin8705 3 роки тому

      May Allah bless you all. Ramadhan Mubarak.

    • @nawazk8316
      @nawazk8316 3 роки тому +1

      Ameen

    • @namirxia3308
      @namirxia3308 3 роки тому +1

      Ameen

    • @aadilqayoom6872
      @aadilqayoom6872 3 роки тому +1

      @Gaz Smith you didn't resisted Islam ,you were left to be on your faith wheather in Islamic Spain or ottaman Greek or Armenia proof if we had done like you did in Spain , Caucasus, South Russia you and your faith wouldn't have existed for 700 years
      Regards crusades be honest do you say that you belong to those people who toppled civilizations for indulgences by Pope,ate human flesh,gave blankets filled with diseases to American people, kept whole population in Libya in barracks for years,colonised the whole world , created israhell in our lands
      Then I m sorry my friend you need to retrospect
      Regards can't we move on so we have moved on but itz you who still live in shadow of crusades even after saying goodbye to religion of Paul proof see what you did to Iraq,Syria middle East
      Move on get out of there leave our lands stop supporting israhell a terrorist state ,

  • @EslemO-vy3mj
    @EslemO-vy3mj 3 роки тому +101

    I am Circassian as well, my family has been in Turkey for about 4-5 generations and lives in Germany now. It’s a shame but I never really heard much about Imam Shamil and am fascinated by this lecture. Great thanks to the Shaykh and all the CMC staff for their work!

    • @greatdslayarr
      @greatdslayarr 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-dn6sy7ld9v Черкесы (которые сами себя зовут Адыгэ), оказались в Турции после геноцида проведенного против них Российской Империей. 90% их население были выселены или убиты. Многим дали поселиться в Турции, тогда Османской Империей, так как это была самая мощная мусулманская держава в то время. Из Черкесов в Турции, очень мало говорят по Русски, больше по Турецки и по их древнем языку. Надеюсь объяснение помогло

    • @amermh144
      @amermh144 Рік тому

      @@greatdslayarr cerkezler urdunde de cok

  • @Patlichan
    @Patlichan 4 місяці тому +2

    This was a great lecture! I'm Circassian, and proudly Muslim.

  • @delano2885
    @delano2885 3 роки тому +57

    Assalam alaykum.
    My ancestor was a man who joined the movement of Imam Shamil in 1840 and he became the chief of artillery in Shamil's imamate.
    We must study and make comparisons in which the great people of Islam united warring tribes and peoples under one name, under the name of their religion.
    Imam Shamil created the state in a war. He united in the name of Islam, tribes and peoples that have never been part of one state.
    It’ great to see the deepest analysis and presentation on this topic given by Abdul Hakim Murad.
    Thanks for the great lecture!

    • @no1khans
      @no1khans 3 роки тому

      Amazing subtlety. I wonder is there a documented a framework for how to collaborate in a state of siege or war or our Yahjuji Mahjuji post modernity context

  • @custommaverick0117
    @custommaverick0117 3 роки тому +15

    Subhanallah! I never knew that Muslims struggled so much in that region and upheld Islam in the best of manner. May Allah shower his mercy on them in their graves and on their kins alive today and on the entire Ummah.

  • @ghazisadoun7855
    @ghazisadoun7855 3 роки тому +46

    Your final words on separation of Ego from Leadership is “Priceless”! You are truly a wise & enlightened Muslim. God Bless you Sir. 🤲

  • @kamilsuleymanov7197
    @kamilsuleymanov7197 2 роки тому +10

    Salam aleykum from Dagestan. It is very interesting to hear about our history from a neutral point of view. Mashallah!

  • @oktrikcom
    @oktrikcom 2 роки тому +4

    my great grandfather told me about imam Shamil and his people after he went on hajj..during his time going hajj is really dangerous trip and can take several months to reach mecca...and he told us that not all white people are hostile to us (we have been enslaved for hundreds of years)..he told us about caucasian people he meets there and imam shamil in particular

  • @MultiCanEman
    @MultiCanEman 3 роки тому +13

    Imam Shamil is the pride of the ummah...Ramadan kareem and salam from Turkey.

    • @lucatoni7971
      @lucatoni7971 3 роки тому +2

      Vaaleykum Salam! and you Ramadan Karim!

  • @mohamedzaroual9789
    @mohamedzaroual9789 3 роки тому +37

    Just calmness in his voice. Masha Allah.

  • @truebomba
    @truebomba 3 роки тому +20

    It is interesting that Sheykh throws postmodern vocabulary seamlessly.

  • @arahman2981
    @arahman2981 3 роки тому +45

    Abdul Hakim Murad 😍😍

    • @no1khans
      @no1khans 3 роки тому

      @J M I believe Yusuf (as) mentioned his competencies and capabilities. However its a good example that people of leadership also cant shy/hermit away.
      Also if you take leadership by force its ugly, you compel people who do not want to be led. I believe a Shurah (collective) should select actual leadership. That Shurah in itself is composed of people who can faithfully administer the role of Wasi/Khadim or Trustee.
      There is a problem in our contexts that few people know or can deliver to competencies required of trustee so therefore the leadership is off too.

  • @BashirMuhamed-ut1jh
    @BashirMuhamed-ut1jh 2 місяці тому

    Alla ya isak I love our sheikh for the sake of allah may allah grant our alim success in this world 🌎 and hereafter

  • @MuhammadAbdullah-cj6nx
    @MuhammadAbdullah-cj6nx 3 роки тому +26

    I am simply blown away period!

  • @TA8TASTIC
    @TA8TASTIC 3 роки тому +15

    His character fascinates many. Faith surrected his struggle. Super man of a kind

  • @lionelchan1601
    @lionelchan1601 3 роки тому +18

    An interesting time to re-release this talk. May the All Merciful make things well prepared and easy for us.
    "The best Jihad is to speak the truth to an unjust ruler". Indeed.

    • @no1khans
      @no1khans 3 роки тому

      By all means release all lectures but encourage all to come via the CMC portal

  • @user-vx7mh7zo6l
    @user-vx7mh7zo6l 2 роки тому +4

    Да будет доволен Аллаh Имамом Шамилем.

  • @questmarksq1479
    @questmarksq1479 3 роки тому +25

    This is excellent, looking forward to more.
    Would be good if someone could do a lecture or series of lectures on what happened the Muslims of the Caucasus mountains, very little is known about them in the English speaking Muslim world.
    The story of Sotchi is so sad.

    • @TajamalGhumman
      @TajamalGhumman 2 роки тому

      there is no english speaking muslim world...there are only a few English knowing European Muslims.....all of these lectures should be translated in Arabic, Urdu, Persian, Turkish, Bangla, Indonasian, Panjabi and other big Muslim mother tongues

  • @abuladula
    @abuladula 2 роки тому +2

    Abdul Hakim Murad is a Gem for this ummah at this time.
    Everytime I listen to him he reminds what Islam is he and reminds me of God.

  • @Basihtmuhammed
    @Basihtmuhammed 2 роки тому +2

    We are Indians. please include us in your sincere prayers. May Allah bless all of us

  • @ahmadcheema4202
    @ahmadcheema4202 3 роки тому +17

    MASHAALLAH SHEIKH
    May ALLAH you live long
    Ameen

  • @ellagardener538
    @ellagardener538 3 роки тому +9

    This is legitimately one of the finest lectures I have ever seen. We are truly lucky to enjoy this during Ramadan. Thank you CMC!!!

  • @mohammedabdelhadi7435
    @mohammedabdelhadi7435 3 роки тому +1

    Great . Thank you

  • @mizan689
    @mizan689 3 роки тому +1

    Lovely! Mashallah

  • @ninni8037
    @ninni8037 3 роки тому +1

    Beautiful, mashaAllah!

  • @mikhailbabushkinum
    @mikhailbabushkinum 2 роки тому +1

    I thank god I have discovered shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad , a great scholar

  • @aishabaajamaal5046
    @aishabaajamaal5046 3 роки тому

    Thank you 🙏

  • @NouraSermoneta
    @NouraSermoneta 3 роки тому +19

    Thank you!

  • @goodguy6927
    @goodguy6927 3 роки тому +7

    Watched it with pleasure as always. Thank you...

  • @mr.h3737
    @mr.h3737 3 роки тому +17

    There is actually a book on the weeping of the Prophet. I know one in arabic by Wael Hafith Khalaf "بكاء النبي وحزنه"

    • @mr.h3737
      @mr.h3737 3 роки тому +4

      Another one is مواقف بكى فيها الرسول والصحابة by محمد مجدي الشهاوي

  • @Mo-ck6qn
    @Mo-ck6qn 3 роки тому +8

    Very interesting indeed.... and eloquently delivered as usual, Masha Allah

  • @chechenheritage6567
    @chechenheritage6567 2 роки тому +3

    Assalamu allaykum, dear Sheikh. Thank you for sharing the story of our nation with the ummah. Accidentally, (of course there are no true accidents in this life), a few days ago I was telling about the same parts of Imam Shamil’s life to some people here in Chechnya.

  • @MuhammadAli-hr1bj
    @MuhammadAli-hr1bj 3 роки тому +2

    Jazak'allah to SAHM for delivering such an in depth lecture.

  • @naturallight4745
    @naturallight4745 3 роки тому

    *MAA SHAA ALLAH!*
    1st time ever I'm seeing you.

  • @hhh-ib3ex
    @hhh-ib3ex 3 роки тому +9

    MashaAllah excellent talk on Imam Shamil

  • @kamalazmi4249
    @kamalazmi4249 2 роки тому +1

    I am so emotional and tears went down unstoppable with Imam Shamil story. I am also remember the same Muslim fighter against the Dutch that want to put the Muslim in Acheh to Dutch control. Teuku Umar United Acheh Muslim to fight against the infidel until he lost his life in the battle.His wife Chut Nyat Dien continued the battle for another 30 years until she captured by the Dutch. She is too old at that time and blind already. She is lead the Muslim Acheh fight until the end

  • @salmanahmed4718
    @salmanahmed4718 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent.

  • @wandering3ngineer
    @wandering3ngineer 2 роки тому

    @CMC Genuine thanks for sharing this lecture.

  • @nawazk8316
    @nawazk8316 3 роки тому +3

    Have listened very little of u but i can say u have integrity and backbone, a lot of Muslim leaders and scholars lack.

  • @jylyhughes5085
    @jylyhughes5085 2 роки тому

    Marvellous... Thank you Sheikh Abdal Hakim

  • @afaqjabbar7627
    @afaqjabbar7627 3 роки тому +14

    Masha Allah imam shamil was Lion.

  • @hasanyousaf8117
    @hasanyousaf8117 3 роки тому +16

    Really enjoying this keep up the work honourable Shaykh.

    • @DrAAAli
      @DrAAAli 3 роки тому +1

      Simply awesome

  • @AM-wh2fo
    @AM-wh2fo 3 роки тому +8

    And a year later.. The shaykh is back again in Ramadan. So have been eagerly waiting to listen to him.
    Welcome back shaykh, 👍

    • @no1khans
      @no1khans 3 роки тому

      Did you attend the course live? Are the notes any good

  • @inafern
    @inafern 2 роки тому

    what an interesting and thought-provoking introduction. Wow

  • @falcons12nation
    @falcons12nation 3 роки тому

    I call you Ustade Azam you truly are: Man with deep wisdom💚🤍💛

  • @yc9487
    @yc9487 3 роки тому

    Salams shaykh thank you

  • @aticqhalim3949
    @aticqhalim3949 3 роки тому

    great stuff"

  • @aadilqayoom6872
    @aadilqayoom6872 3 роки тому +1

    Subha Allah

  • @mohammedparak2292
    @mohammedparak2292 2 роки тому

    MASHA ALLAH!!!!!!!!

  • @Mohammadon
    @Mohammadon 3 роки тому +3

    "لله العزة جميعا"

  • @user-go5ed3vb7t
    @user-go5ed3vb7t 8 місяців тому

    My cat listens to this wonderful teacher, mesmerized and peaceful. With any other podcast material, she marches across the laptop keys to disrupt it.

  • @JaefarSABNW
    @JaefarSABNW 3 роки тому +3

    Islam stands apart from ideology in leadership not being for itself and realizing all people take some sort of charge or influence beyond themselves.
    It also stands apart in its laws from the tribal and externally influenced laws and in that Shariyat Ullah is mostly never enforced on others.
    Humans being given delegative, rather than legislative law, distinguishes it from what is usually deemed as theocracies.
    It is important in its rejection of what is termed Holy War or mere Vengeance War, it affirms the drives and has a long game.

  • @sjsj9106
    @sjsj9106 Рік тому +2

    Avar is one of the ethnicities of Dagestan. Dagestani is not ethnicity , it’s a region that contains 30+ different ethnicities

  • @mirzabeg2274
    @mirzabeg2274 2 роки тому +1

    Wow!!!

  • @Icaruss789
    @Icaruss789 3 роки тому +8

    It seems like we Moroccans have become quite notorious for our Hashish

    • @EazyE420
      @EazyE420 2 роки тому +1

      And very good lol

    • @karimb972
      @karimb972 2 роки тому +2

      Shame on us... For that and other bad things unfortunately. May Allah cure our country.

  • @asasjsajs
    @asasjsajs 6 місяців тому

    Muhammed Abdul Hassan from Somalia is worth an episode on.

  • @mohamedissa8834
    @mohamedissa8834 Рік тому

    Just looking at the face of Dr Abdal Hakim you can see in the eyes realising and finding pure emaan is a very deep struggle of the soul and heart. Tasting the sweetness of faith comes after deep striving of the ajam. With pagan Arabs they were able to control their hearts in such away with ease they tasted sweetness of faith and were able to do literally as the prophet peace be upon him prescribed upon his companions from the Quran. I know of many non Arab Muslims dying without tasting the sweetness of Emaan which brings the heart tranquility. Even Umar ibn khataab radiyallahi anhu reminded his companions the sahaba to take care of the a’raab Bedouin Arabs as they were the raw material for Islam. Some prominent Muslim scholars said if the Quran was not revealed in the Arabic language the Arabs may not have accepted Islam

  • @Alamgir-ri6px
    @Alamgir-ri6px 3 роки тому +3

    Need one video on Sheikh Abdelkader

  • @muhammadbelal2453
    @muhammadbelal2453 3 роки тому

    Thank you Shaykh, could you recommend sources talking about the history of Muslims in middle Asia?

  • @Upgradezz
    @Upgradezz 3 роки тому +1

    This is almost what's happening in Kashmir. Please remember us in your dua

  • @mohammadaleem1521
    @mohammadaleem1521 Рік тому

    Assalamualaikum Team CMC.
    JazakAllahu khaira for all your efforts. Could you please request Shaykh Abdal Hakim to do on Said Nursi? JazakAllahu khaira!

  • @everygoodisinwhatthesalafb7613
    @everygoodisinwhatthesalafb7613 3 роки тому +1

    EVERY GOOD IS IN WHAT THE SALAF BROUGHT.

  • @Awsumc
    @Awsumc 3 роки тому +3

    Any recommended books on Russia and Islam?

  • @sjsj9106
    @sjsj9106 Рік тому

    Imam Shamil also allowed hostage Russian soldiers to pray in old churches in Dagestan. He never forced anyone to be Muslim but rather showed them the beauty of Islam and MANY of them stayed with him and helped him. The Russians at the time still had slavery , they in slaves their own people and it was Caucasians and Imam Shamil that showed the people what freedom really means , Russian Tsar broke that law and freed everyone after what Imam Shamil showed them simply by being a Muslim. He shaped Russian history too.

  • @nazk5478
    @nazk5478 2 роки тому +1

    Assalamualaikum. Can the handouts be made available as a link on each respective video please?

  • @Upgradezz
    @Upgradezz 3 роки тому

    Any history book recommendations? Id like to study some

  • @erzanaberani689
    @erzanaberani689 3 роки тому +8

    Could someone help me summarize the books and characters mentioned in this lecture?
    Here is what I collected:
    Leila Aboulela - The kindness of enemies (could someone double check with me that this is the book for the captivity story?)
    Hajji Murat - Leo Tolsoy
    The sabres of paradise - Lesley Blanch
    Sheikh Mansur, Imam Shamil, Ghazi Mulla (could not find him), Razi Mulla (could not find him), Saeed Offendage (probably not right spelling but from Google CC and also could not find him)
    Also any idea about this library of books from the leaders and mullas there?

    • @zabi8438
      @zabi8438 3 роки тому +2

      You can go the Cambridge Muslim College website this course series is available there for free with it's book references.

    • @adielkamalie5252
      @adielkamalie5252 3 роки тому

      @@zabi8438 Salaams ..Shukran and Ramadaan Kareem to all
      May Allah grant Sh.Murad all the blessings of dissemination, application for us to benefit, and exponential success to Cambridge Muslim College InshaaAllah

    • @delano2885
      @delano2885 3 роки тому

      Ghazi Muhammad - try to find in wiki

  • @daalhead1098
    @daalhead1098 3 роки тому +2

    Khabib V Conor Mcgregor 6/10/18
    Imam Shamil Lecture 20/10/18
    Quite topical at the time

    • @user-dn6sy7ld9v
      @user-dn6sy7ld9v 2 роки тому

      Имам Шамиль упрекнул бы Хабиба за распространение ММА !!! Хабиб и имам Шамиль это разные вещи . Хабиб портит людей своей пропагандой ММА . ММА драки это харам .

    • @philfakov1405
      @philfakov1405 Рік тому

      Его мама и папа его упрекали.да и сам извинялся когда бил морду Маиклу, оправдая этот не красивый акт, тем, что заслужил title shot. И когда наконец-то достиг ту славу, которую искал, не только таитл, но и undefeated great, плакал горькие слезы потому, что весь мир знал его имя, а папы любимого рядом нет, мама тысячи километров от него сидит не довольна. Эти горькие слезы мешались с молитвой Богу, и просьбой включить его в hall of champions. Борьба внутри его продолжалась аж в этот миг . Но , победила доброта! Похож он, в конце концов, более на Федю, а не на Конора

  • @FulaSports
    @FulaSports 2 роки тому

    The fact he is burried in Madina and his descendants are still there are a statement in itself

  • @JoBlogz
    @JoBlogz 5 місяців тому +1

    The sheikh ended by saying God is the best of plotters. Such a pejorative term is beneath the majesty of God. The best orderer or manager of affairs would have been far more apt.
    The religion is sincere advice.

  • @Kalernor
    @Kalernor Рік тому

    Wow, no wonder Khabib and other combat athletes from that region are so tough 😁

  • @mnwr4791
    @mnwr4791 5 місяців тому

    1:05:31

  • @cc9718
    @cc9718 5 місяців тому

    Why would someone retell russian propaganda about Shaykh Mansur. He wasnt an italian christian. He was a Chechen Muslim.

  • @bowlofcinder482
    @bowlofcinder482 7 місяців тому

    How can one study islam without being able to question islam

  • @mohammadaleem1521
    @mohammadaleem1521 Рік тому

    What does American Indians’ extermination will keep them quiet mean? Was he talking about the Indian expatriates in the U.S. or the native red Indians of America?

  • @sjsj9106
    @sjsj9106 Рік тому

    Gimri is not in Chechnya , it’s in Dagestan. All of those imams were Dagestani

  • @tlamro
    @tlamro 3 роки тому +3

    Imam of caucasus sheikh Mansur was chechen and not italian

  • @inkoholicanonymus6182
    @inkoholicanonymus6182 3 роки тому

    He is muslim heheheh he funny hehehehe!!!!!

  • @daifal-bukhari1082
    @daifal-bukhari1082 3 роки тому +2

    Aishah said:
    "Whoever narrated to you that the Prophet would urinate while standing; then do not believe him. He would not urinate except while squatting." [He said:] There are narrations on this topic from Umar, Buraidah, [and Abdur-Rahman bin Hasanah].
    Grade: Hasan (Darussalam)
    Reference : Jami` at-Tirmidhi 12
    In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 12
    English translation : Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 12
    I want a muslim to THANK ME, for having reminded him this, PROUD MUSLIM COME AND THANK ME FOR THIS !

    • @kad3kad
      @kad3kad 3 роки тому +2

      So sadly Ignorant and deluded
      May Allah cleanse your ego/Nafs, and guide you to the heart of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) with his utmost mercy, Ameen

    • @daifal-bukhari1082
      @daifal-bukhari1082 3 роки тому

      @@kad3kad Did you see the reference ? I'M COPY PASTING ISLAMIC SOURCES YOU DIIOT ! ASK THEM IF THEY BELIEVE IT !

    • @daifal-bukhari1082
      @daifal-bukhari1082 3 роки тому +1

      @@kad3kad Do you consider the Islamic source material I quoted as being so sadly ignorant and deluded then ? (Yes they are I agree, but I'm not muslim, I didn't know muslims was also believing they are all deluded...)

    • @daifal-bukhari1082
      @daifal-bukhari1082 2 роки тому +1

      @Rexxy Waxxy The punishment of the grave was supposed to be my surprise to thos who would try to contradict, but apparently muslims don't need others to make fun of them, they do it quite fine themselves, thank you for confirming your false prophet was scared of his own urine (because of the disgustingly bad horror story of the 'punishment of the grave')

    • @daifal-bukhari1082
      @daifal-bukhari1082 2 роки тому +1

      @Rexxy Waxxy And how dod you reach this silly conclusion? Making fun of your false prophet having fear of his own urine , and urine in general, because of jewish fairy tale that he heard at some point, doesn't mean I like urine... you make no sense.

  • @N1t3Owl
    @N1t3Owl 3 роки тому

    Yermolov did nothing wrong

  • @daifal-bukhari1082
    @daifal-bukhari1082 3 роки тому +1

    It was narrated that Abu Dharr said:
    “I asked the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) about the all-black dog and he said: ‘(It is) a devil.’”
    Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
    Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 3210
    In-book reference : Book 28, Hadith 11
    English translation : Vol. 4, Book 28, Hadith 3210
    You can't escape, your false prophet is a dangerous madman, that when he's not aroused by pigeons, woman and steal the wife of his adopted son, either marry a 6 years old girl or want to kill black dogs that he consider devils (maybe he is aroused by black dogs too) LEAVE ISLAM!

    • @kad3kad
      @kad3kad 3 роки тому +3

      They were referring here to rabid black dogs known in the desert that were know to attack and kill people/travellers .. is it permissable to kill them
      In the Hadith it's explained: they are affected by negative impulses and doing bad deeds of shaytan , so we're allowed to kill them for protection .. but not allowed to do so over level of necessity

    • @kad3kad
      @kad3kad 3 роки тому +1

      Hadeeth related to man chasing after a pigeon .. context was probably related to theft
      The man acting like a Shaytan and following "his shaytan" temptation, his prized pigeon in his case

    • @kad3kad
      @kad3kad 3 роки тому +1

      Hadeeths relating to Marriage with Aisha narrates that:
      They completed their marriage when she was 9, after insistence of her father Abu Baker (peace be upon all of them)
      - That was the normal marriage tradition of everyone at that time in Arabia. Everyone pagans and Muslims, Christians, Jews that lived in Arabia at that time married when daughters reached 9 years, and sons 14 years
      People in the desert back then had stringer bodies, grew much faster mentally and physically, had a much harder life, and much shorter life span average (around 30-35 average)
      All these marriages happened publicly,
      Even chieftains of Jews, pagans of mecca and prophet Muhammad's daughters (peace be upon him and his family) married at 9, 10 or 12 years ..
      All of These are known historical facts that were the common norm in many places and kingdoms in Europe, Middle East, Africa and Asia untill 300 years ago.
      Life and maturity levels were much different before 1879 and industrial revolution

    • @kad3kad
      @kad3kad 3 роки тому +1

      You're obviously Ignorant and deluded,
      May Allah cleanse your ego/Nafs, and guide you to the heart of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) with his utmost mercy, Ameen

    • @no1khans
      @no1khans 3 роки тому +4

      @@kad3kad Spot on. Relativity and contextually is so important when deducing understanding before judgement.