The Truth About the Coaching Industry
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- Talking about the dark side of the coaching industry with host and creator of Why Don't You Say Something, Eva Collins. In this episode, we share tips both for those looking to coach ethically and those looking to hire a legitimate coach or educator, citing resources straight from the FTC.
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Thanks so much for having me on! ❤
Thanks for all that you do! ❤
It is so unfortunate that the rotten apples can really spoil it for those of us going above and beyond to help our clients get their results - skepticism is at an all time high.
Yes! I feel this too, but am just hoping eventually things will level out once some of the phonies leave the industry.
Oh, my! I don't even know where to start. First off, thanks! Hit their pain points and create HIGH ticket programs for...whatever you know how to do...just never set well with me, but I thought it was just me. I also have been an online course junkie, but really stepping back. I've taken some great classes, but I've scaled back for some of the reasons discussed here. More regulation is definitely needed. Thanks, again.
I absolutely relate to the idea that working one-on-one and doing work "by hand" is denigrated unfairly. I have no desire to "scale" in ways that are often expected of entrepreneurs - I love what I do, so I have no need to take myself out of it :)
And the fact people who are genuinely trying to turn their career, business, or life around and learn new skills are being taken advantage of by these scammy coaches/course creators😣
Thanks to you both for sharing this convo and bringing light to this!
Thank you for listening, Laraine! And for the work you do to put quality education out there 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thank you so much for this - I have purchased so many "courses" that were all videos and I really didn't learn much and I felt that I wasted my money and time. I know what my purpose is as a life coach and over the last 10 years I have not focus on it until now(just tweaking a few things before putting it out there) and everything I see or come across is all about online coaching - package it up, sell it and forget it! I prefer to interact "live" with people. I have created a program, which is a group program done via zoom once a week for 4 weeks and I'm also going to offer 1:1 private coaching after the program, with the option to do as needed basis or purchase a group of 4 sessions. I was starting to stress out about if I needed to do all the social media stuff and focus on "online" only just to make it as a coach....again, I'm really glad I clicked on this video :) thanks-a-bunch!
So glad that you both are speaking up about all this b.s because it's easy to lose touch of reality by seeing the same tactics being used again and again
Regarding scope of practice… if you’re following ICF ethics and the contract “template” the scope is outlined and we are advised to differentiate between therapy and your role as a coach , and also outline “what’s NOT coaching”… often coaching gets mixed up with MENTORING. Coaching is asking questions to draw out potential, capacity, productivity and self-agency / empowerment. Mentoring is when you are advising on tactics, implementation, strategy.
This is an important topic and it’s important to get it right. Keep on, keeping on with the dialogue around this as there are many truths. 🎉🎉🎉
That distinction is SO helpful, thank you!
Ahhh Wish I this episode who have been created a year ago before I invested a 10k mentorship ! I heard a few red flags that I wasn't aware of then. The mentorship program was good but not worth 10k, I didn't get access to the training portals and the best takeaways where that 1. I need to work on my mindset and 2. the connections and friendships I made from it. Thank you Latasha and Eva for talking about this topic which needs to be talked about more!
Thank you so much for sharing. This is the second comment I've seen that mentioned a $10K program and I'm shook! I personally wouldn't feel right about charging that much for anything that did not offer a concrete deliverable/done-for-you service in exchange. I'm so glad we are talking about this and all setting realistic expectations together! ❤
I love this episode! I'm not a coach but I recently bought a course that definitely feels MLMy. I like some of the content but you two are right. There is definitely a rise in the coaching industry and it's becoming more and more important to be aware of dishonest offers.
This was the podcast I didn't know I needed!
THANK YOU for saying this!
Firstly, Latasha is the real deal. BUT I am very skeptical of online courses/course creators because it feels like there is an abundance AND so many who haven't actually built a business. They build an audience on whatever platform and think they can create a course after they built just their own personal brand once (vs building multiple business accounts). I do feel like it went from "Everyone and their momma has a podcast" to "Everyone and their momma has a course."
This!!! Exactly this! Like who has actually done the work and who just got popular and sold a course in an industry they never really got a foothold or experience in.
Totally agree. As you know, marketing a business vs. a personal brand is very, very different. Being successful at one does not automatically guarantee you'll be good at the other. Lol at "everyone and their momma has a course"! 😅
Hey La! Love this interview! Seems like you both exchanged ideas and thoughts that benefit you and your audience! I love the "checklist" and audit of yourself. Its like an artist stepping back from their painting to see if the perspective is right. Love you! Great video!
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Yesss love seeing you cover this Latasha! 🙌🏽 love that there’s transparency and self awareness, we need more of these convos. 💖
Hi Lyd! 👋🏽 Thank you! Agree, this is such an important topic. Thanks for watching ❤
Thank you for sharing.
Wow! This was such a great episode!!! Thank you both for sharing!
Thank you for watching, XayLi! 🙌🏽
I love how raw you both are being especially about being true to yourself even though you guys are in the marketing field❤ I was struggling with this as well but now I'm feeling better
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching and for the kind words.
Thank you for this video. I was conned out of $10,000 in a coaching program that became a nightmare. The coach was a mentor that developed a trusting relationship with me over years. It created massive confusion, trauma, & it took years to unpack.
Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. I can't imaging charging that much for anything that did not have a concrete deliverable. I can definitely understand how that would cause trauma and hope you are healing now!
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Thank you for having this conversation!! So so good 🙌🏼
Thank you for tuning in, Selena! ❤
Yay. I love Eva’s content. Glad to see more people are talking about this 👏 it’s so needed.
Hey lady!! ❤❤
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She's great! 🙌🏽
So many takeaways!
So glad! Thanks for tuning in 😄
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Yay! First comment ❤❤❤
Hiiii! Hope you enjoy the episode, Donita 🙌🏽
Hey Latasha, I have a question. I am a YT scriptwriter new to the industry. And I have a background in social media management and content creation. I found out that there's this platform called YT jobs but not sure how I can start pitching without working for nonexistent clients. Can I use samples?
I've been guilty of buying trash courses in the past. I stand by it and keep saying Latasha's courses have been the best. She's been legit and always providing free content that's high-value
I just finished watching the whole interview. This topic reassured me of what I had felt all along. Yes, and accurate, we need strategies and systems, but it shouldn't be complicated.
Thank you so much, Indira! I'm definitely not perfect but I do genuinely care about my students and their success -- and I know I'm not the only one! There are some amazing creators/educators out there and I hope the scammy ones exit the industry quickly lol. Thanks for watching and for your comment! 🙌🏽
Omg nowadays I'm scared to take up a course to learn because of the fear of my money being wasted on something that's already repeated or not helpful in general
I'm sorry to hear that 😔 I hope we gave you some good tips to vet programs you're interested in, because there really are some amazing ones out there. But I totally understand how it can feel like most of them aren't worth it!
@@thelatashajames Thank you for this video! Please never stop making them :) I love your channel💕💕💕💕
This topic may have taken an investment of courage, but it strengthens your brand perception.
Thank you so much for tuning in!
The contracts that are lengthy seems very desperate and not confident about their abilities to keep clients. If you are so great, I’ll Stay with you. And like it was said in the conversation, why would you want to be working with someone who doesn’t want to work with you…
So true!!
Yes! So many doing the quick money grabs. Eww.
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Predatory coaching?
Onlyfan 🔗?