I found it useful the way you explained how liquid expansion and thermo electric work. I properly understand it now! Brilliant video. Much appreciated. Thanks Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training.
I have been at this game a good few years but never realised the plastic on the micropoint hose was designed to melt in a fire. Thought it was a cheaper way of manufacture. Had a couple of them broken inside and haven’t pushed off fully then leaking gas. so not sure about them really. We are always learning. Thanks again.
Hi Derek, Exellent video , very well presented and easy to understand. I have watched alot of your videos over the last few days and have found them brilliant. Loads of information and knowledge on all aspects of gas works. Keep up the good work!!
Another great video Derek. Not sure once I am qualified (hopefully) if I would sleep well knowing I had left a permissable drop in a customers property. Would have to investigate for my own peace of mind.
Another excellent video, well explained & with very useful information on different cookers we will encounter, also the installation of the cooker was bang on too, Great video Derek. Thanks. 👍👍😁
when you say no smell of gas, im assuming that is within within the area of the existing appliance itself for example by doing a sniffer sweep test the living area of a gas fire... but in that scenario would it be an idea to connect your gas sniffer to a telescopic pole upto the chimney just to confirm that the gas is escaping to atmosphere.... also having said that, is there a classification category for a chimney that has a constant flow of unburned gas going into it?
Great video but I think it would have been a good idea to tightness test again if using the old micropoint bayonet as you did. Like you say, the customer is allowed to remove the hose from the bayonet for cleaning/decorating purposes. Without proving the old micropoint isn't leaking, there is a chance it could pass gas once the hose is removed. Just a thought.
My new cooker is jutting out a good few cm from worktop edge due to gas pipe and hose at back taking up space. Changing gas pipe layout not feasible. Are there any cooker brands which are shallower in depth or still recessed at the back?
Hello I was wondering if you can help me out, about the issue I have on my hotpoint Ultima gas cooker, I used the small ring or burner and from the ignitor came some liquid out and there were a lot of oil and liquid inside the cube where the gas comes out, the rest of the burners are working fine just the small one I dried out all the oil and liquid but I do not know where all the oil and green liquid coming from. No I have pure any water on it, do you have any idea? please I am worried, thank you
Thanks for this tomkat, just wanted clarification on what would you do if the openable door goes into an outbuilding, would you need a permanent vent to outside via two vents? Or a vent and permanent openable door/window to outside
Great video Derek. So having ccn1 and gas meters only on your gas card you can still do igem 11 regulation 26(9) on fires, boilers and cookers even though you don’t have these appliances on your gas card ?
So would that comply with igem 11. Say if I where moving a gas meter 2 meters I would have to encounter every appliance connected to that gas meter. Moving the gas meter will be considered work so would visual be sufficient in this situation
@@samclaughlin8504 yes you would have to relight all the appliances and check them any signs of spillage or damage you would be ID or AR the appliances
Morning Derek. Great video as usual. You honest just have a good way of delivering the lessons. You mentioned Range cookers at the end, do you have a video on them? Would be great to see one. Don't see many of them but honestly wouldn't know where to start with them. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos.
@@tomkatgastraining Yeah it would be interesting. On a day off and love watching your videos. Doesn't feel like work and builds on my knowledge. Have a good weekend
Can the gas engineer who has been originally called out for some other gas repair in the home (not associated to the cooker). But on general inspection of the cooker (because you have to make sure all gas appliances are turned off), Cut off the gas supply to your cooker say, if the engineer deems it to be unsafe to further use the cooker (even though the user feels he can continue to use it), and he only called the engineer to fix other issues (not the cooker).
A gas engineer has to by the regulations inspect gas appliances they encountered during any gas work. If the engineer finds an appliance immediately dangerous then it must be isolated from the gas supply if the owner won’t give permission then the gas transporter can be called to do it. If the engineer at risk the appliance and the owner refuses then the engineer Must note it on the paperwork and leave. Remember the engineer is only acting with the customers safety in mind so if an engineer thinks it’s unsafe it’s unsafe and should not be used.
Hey Derek, Have you ever came across or serviced/installed a gas tumble dryer? If so what classification do they come under? In terms of rules on flueing and ventilation.
@@tomkatgastraining Are you sure? A google search for BS 8445 returns loads of stuff about bath mats for some reason. And it didn’t answer my question of if you have ever serviced or installed one.
@@slendermanRblx it could be 8446 or even withdrawn now lol I have never installed one domestically but I used to look after lots when I had contracts with care homes meany years ago.
Hi, this comment is a little late but I used to fit gas tumble dryers for a housing association on a regular basis the white knight brand, they are all if not nearly all are classed as open flued appliances their products of combustion do need to be vented outside and they are indeed under bs 8446 as gas fired laundry appliances. For servicing the main things are working pressure to the appliance, you can test it from the small brass nipple on the back of them kinda like on a gas meter, check the air inlet grills on the front kinda like on a gas cooker, make sure they’re not damaged or blocked, the flue on the back of the appliance visually inspect it for damage, and looking outside check for damage on the flue terminal and make sure it’s not blocked and is secure. Those are the main things can think of off the top of my head hopefully anyone can add to it.
Anything that does not comply with the gas regs 98 is NCS. Our teacher called it notifiable. Put it on the service report/ gas safety cert. Belt and braces
Just passed my ACS
Can’t emphasise how much these videos helped me, thanks Derek 👍🏼
Congratulations
Hi I'm a apprentice learnt a lot thanks for sharing your knowledge keep these videos coming 💯👍
This is such a great training video as cookers are probably one of the most abused gas appliances in the home today
When men are around !
Another fantastic video, I can’t stress how much you have help me, understand gas safe. I can’t wait for the next video
I found it useful the way you explained how liquid expansion and thermo electric work. I properly understand it now! Brilliant video. Much appreciated. Thanks Derek 👍🏻
Asian Jon. Training.
@tomkatgastraining thank you so much for your videos. I passed my ACS and have received my certificate. Wouldn’t have done it without you 💕
I've got mine next week. For the 4th time. Tom makes me feel a wee bit more confident. 😁
@@paulmcallister8948 his videos are so helpful. All the best
I have been at this game a good few years but never realised the plastic on the micropoint hose was designed to melt in a fire. Thought it was a cheaper way of manufacture. Had a couple of them broken inside and haven’t pushed off fully then leaking gas. so not sure about them really. We are always learning. Thanks again.
I'l watch this when I have some spare time. I'm sure it will be great, thanks Derek ✌
Excellent video thanks a lot Derek !!!!!
Hi Derek, Exellent video , very well presented and easy to understand. I have watched alot of your videos over the last few days and have found them brilliant. Loads of information and knowledge on all aspects of gas works. Keep up the good work!!
Great video and content, good to refresh on points from ccn1
Just booked in with TomKat for my cooker training next month, looking forward to it!
@@peterlees7390 looking forward to seeing you
A great video and explained very well. You have a really good teaching method. Top work buddy.👍👍
Another great video Derek. Not sure once I am qualified (hopefully) if I would sleep well knowing I had left a permissable drop in a customers property. Would have to investigate for my own peace of mind.
Another excellent video, well explained & with very useful information on different cookers we will encounter, also the installation of the cooker was bang on too, Great video Derek. Thanks. 👍👍😁
Very informative video, it helps me to write my portfolios. Thanks Derek for your effort 👍👍👍🙂
Top man! Thanks for taking the time out! Can't explain how much you helped me out with my prep for my core! 👍
Awesome video
Thank you sir for all the information 🙏
God Bless you Sir
Jon-Paul Ward a feature length episode that one Derek!
Some great tips on this video. Thanks very much! 👍
Thanks again, Derek!!!, Another brilliant video.
Tomorrow risk assesment so its good to see that thanks to you
Another excellent video. Thanks alot Derek for helping us all.
Love your tutorials your definitely one in a million gas safe trainer🤗👍
You said not to use boss white, but boss white also do a universal which states it is suitable for gas joints.
when you say no smell of gas, im assuming that is within within the area of the existing appliance itself for example by doing a sniffer sweep test the living area of a gas fire... but in that scenario would it be an idea to connect your gas sniffer to a telescopic pole upto the chimney just to confirm that the gas is escaping to atmosphere.... also having said that, is there a classification category for a chimney that has a constant flow of unburned gas going into it?
Another good video for assessment
Regards
Faruk
Another cracking video, very informative.👏👏👍 Top Man.
Great video but I think it would have been a good idea to tightness test again if using the old micropoint bayonet as you did. Like you say, the customer is allowed to remove the hose from the bayonet for cleaning/decorating purposes. Without proving the old micropoint isn't leaking, there is a chance it could pass gas once the hose is removed. Just a thought.
again very helpful video , Thank you Derek.
Mohamed Hassan
Hi there. What hose should I use for a gas oven which is at low level?
My new cooker is jutting out a good few cm from worktop edge due to gas pipe and hose at back taking up space. Changing gas pipe layout not feasible. Are there any cooker brands which are shallower in depth or still recessed at the back?
Fantastic video again!
Thanks Derek another ace video.......
When you soldered the backplate did you disconnect the meter?
Hi. Thank you for your detailed video 👌. Do you use flue gas analyser for commissioning or just gas rate the appliance?
Many thanks
Gas rate and check flame picture and safety devices it’s not mandatory to flue gas analyse a cooker on commission.
Hello I was wondering if you can help me out, about the issue I have on my hotpoint Ultima gas cooker, I used the small ring or burner and from the ignitor came some liquid out and there were a lot of oil and liquid inside the cube where the gas comes out, the rest of the burners are working fine just the small one I dried out all the oil and liquid but I do not know where all the oil and green liquid coming from. No I have pure any water on it, do you have any idea? please I am worried, thank you
Thanks for this tomkat, just wanted clarification on what would you do if the openable door goes into an outbuilding, would you need a permanent vent to outside via two vents? Or a vent and permanent openable door/window to outside
You can’t count the door unless it goes directly outside so if the room is below 10m3 you need ventilation and an opening window
Great video very helpful
Matthew burns
Really appreciate the information in this video. Thank you.
Very knowledgeable guy.
Top video! So helpful. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
demo on working pressure at the appliance using an injector ?
Hi Derek do cookers hose fall under a different British standard when they are in a multi occupancy building
@@kukiechag99 yes it does bs14800
@ if the only available BS are 669 part 1 or BS 669 part 2 , i should use BS 669part 1 right
@@kukiechag99 no for multi occupancy you need 14800
Quick question. Can a gas cooker/hob be installed with electric sockets above it?
Can’t be in the hot zone
I’ve been told that a free-standing cooker requires 300mm of clearance either side. This seems excessive. Is this correct?
Nope
very informative thanks Derek
Ray Hurrell
Thanks Derek great video 🙏👍
Great video Derek. So having ccn1 and gas meters only on your gas card you can still do igem 11 regulation 26(9) on fires, boilers and cookers even though you don’t have these appliances on your gas card ?
No you would only be allowed to do a visual inspection on the appliances you are not qualified to work on
So would that comply with igem 11. Say if I where moving a gas meter 2 meters I would have to encounter every appliance connected to that gas meter. Moving the gas meter will be considered work so would visual be sufficient in this situation
@@samclaughlin8504 yes you would have to relight all the appliances and check them any signs of spillage or damage you would be ID or AR the appliances
Morning Derek. Great video as usual. You honest just have a good way of delivering the lessons.
You mentioned Range cookers at the end, do you have a video on them? Would be great to see one. Don't see many of them but honestly wouldn't know where to start with them.
Thanks for taking the time to do these videos.
Don’t have one yet but a good shout for a future video 👍🏻
@@tomkatgastraining Yeah it would be interesting. On a day off and love watching your videos. Doesn't feel like work and builds on my knowledge.
Have a good weekend
@@craigmcgregor5463 you too
Hi Derek if thermo couple for gas cooker is faulty what is category are AR or ID thanks.
All safety controls broken or disabled are ID and if disabled RIDDOR also
Another quality vid
Thanks Derek..
Fantastic and very informative , thanks 🙏
Very helpful for beginners
Can the gas engineer who has been originally called out for some other gas repair in the home (not associated to the cooker). But on general inspection of the cooker (because you have to make sure all gas appliances are turned off), Cut off the gas supply to your cooker say, if the engineer deems it to be unsafe to further use the cooker (even though the user feels he can continue to use it), and he only called the engineer to fix other issues (not the cooker).
A gas engineer has to by the regulations inspect gas appliances they encountered during any gas work. If the engineer finds an appliance immediately dangerous then it must be isolated from the gas supply if the owner won’t give permission then the gas transporter can be called to do it. If the engineer at risk the appliance and the owner refuses then the engineer Must note it on the paperwork and leave. Remember the engineer is only acting with the customers safety in mind so if an engineer thinks it’s unsafe it’s unsafe and should not be used.
Great video 👍
still need flue gas analyser for commissioning or just gas rate ?
See above. FGA not required for commissioning but for old cookers on safety checks no harm checking with FGA
Hey Derek, Have you ever came across or serviced/installed a gas tumble dryer? If so what classification do they come under? In terms of rules on flueing and ventilation.
They have their own British standard 8445 and they have air flow and ventilation depending on their size so guess most are classed as open flued
@@tomkatgastraining Are you sure? A google search for BS 8445 returns loads of stuff about bath mats for some reason. And it didn’t answer my question of if you have ever serviced or installed one.
@@slendermanRblx it could be 8446 or even withdrawn now lol I have never installed one domestically but I used to look after lots when I had contracts with care homes meany years ago.
Hi, this comment is a little late but I used to fit gas tumble dryers for a housing association on a regular basis the white knight brand, they are all if not nearly all are classed as open flued appliances their products of combustion do need to be vented outside and they are indeed under bs 8446 as gas fired laundry appliances.
For servicing the main things are working pressure to the appliance, you can test it from the small brass nipple on the back of them kinda like on a gas meter, check the air inlet grills on the front kinda like on a gas cooker, make sure they’re not damaged or blocked, the flue on the back of the appliance visually inspect it for damage, and looking outside check for damage on the flue terminal and make sure it’s not blocked and is secure. Those are the main things can think of off the top of my head hopefully anyone can add to it.
Any chance of an LPG vid please? Another gas area in the south is hard to get an engineer
On my to do list 👍🏻
Tom cat ..top cat 🐈 brilliant thanks for your efforts 👍
Another top video
Excellent 👍👍👍
Best one!!!
Thanks for sharing
Super
was just wondering about the cooker lid thing would the cooker lid missing not be ID as its a safety device not working
Nope only if the safety shut off valve has been made inoperative would it be ID
Burritos taste best with yellow flames 🔥
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This gas is giving me a headache
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Not to current standards is no more so old vid but good anyway
Who told you that ? Ncs still exists you just don’t put it on a warning notice but you inform the responsible person
Anything that does not comply with the gas regs 98 is NCS. Our teacher called it notifiable. Put it on the service report/ gas safety cert. Belt and braces