I really think, and I may not be the only one thinking this, but you could certainly do an amazing comparison between the 3Leaf Proton and the Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe. They are fairly close in reverence in the bass community, and a comparison would be wonderful to see/hear. Cheers and thank you for putting these kinds of videos out!
I was reading the manual while listening and they straight up described the low position for the range control as "extra deep and chonky" Gotta appreciate a company that can have some fun lol
Zach I have been watching your videos since I first got into pedals. You were a big help when I wanted to not only understand effects, but how they work with bass guitar. Thank you.
@@jdjk7 what are the major differences between the proton and the chromatron, other then footprint of course? i want to get one of them but which is more useful would you say? Does one do something what the other cant?
@@coolerthanyou9548 Hi, sorry I missed this comment. The Proton and Chromatron are the same circuit, the Proton is simply stripped down. The Chromatron has a mix knob and band pass switch, an attack knob as well as a decay knob, an effects loop & fx loop switch, an expression input and footswitch, and a boost knob. The band pass and mix control let you get more authentic wah-type sounds which use a band pass rather than a low pass. Mix is vital for keeping low end when band-passed. Boost lets you get a little more volume for solos or for pushing a dirt box, especially because sometimes you experience a bit of volume drop when using the band pass with the mix at 50/50. The expression input and footswitch let you plug in an expression pedal to use the Chroma wah-style, and the footswitch toggles between the envelope and the expression pedal. The attack control is helpful, but IMO it is not a super critical part of the pedal for me. The fx loop is probably the most useful part of the Chroma for me. Basically, stick your fuzzes/distortions in the fx loop, and they will be applied to the filtered sound without affecting your dynamics. That way you can have a fuzzy synth tone but still be able to play the envelope dynamically. I have recently moved back to the Chromatron over the Proton on my main board for this exact reason, because I was just totally oblivious to this extremely useful feature and just trying to deal with the dynamic loss in vain.
@@coolerthanyou9548 I've actually just sold my Proton as I got rid of some stuff. It's a good pedal, but I don't see myself going back to it after learning how to properly use the Chromatron.
Lucky enough to have this one. It’s awesome and fairly easy. I said I was lucky because I want a Doom2 and Octabvre and they are out of stock and the used prices online are like double normal price lol smh
Outstanding pedal showcasing as always Zachary! Before I BIG SPEND One question: For straight up pure diverse creative variety of easy to dial in and usable deep funky sounds. 3leaf Proton V4, Josh Wah, Wonder Love Deluxe V2, TWA Tiny Dipper Mark II, Or the Discombobulator 2? What one gives me the absolute varied experimental palette out of these in your humble opinion? Rebuilding my new funk sound and I'm back down to one diverse envelope Filter my Macrodose, but looking to put it in the mix with one of those other petals mentioned. All that because I'm still patiently waiting for that Almighty Chromatron to get restocked! Thank U brotha continued excellence👍✌️
Hello nice demo wondering how is this pedal when play loud setting on stage.I've been having problem my envelope filter sound great at low volume,When I have to turn my rig up on stage it goes crazy.
great review! thanks! a question, 3leaft proton or Iron Ether Xerograph Dlx for a bubbly, jamiroquai-eske Envelope filter? I had the 3 leaf wonderlove before, was nice, but didn't really get what I wanted, many times the filter would just open and the bubblyness was difficult to get consistent with dynamics change in playing. (I am trying to use the filter on the HX stomp now but it is not so good)
@@RitchieRosson I did! I got a Solid Gold FX Funk Lite and I am really happy with it. (I had EHX, MXR, many others before and I am happy with the Funk Lite)
Hi Zachary, awesome video as always. I have 1 question, I see that you use often the Moogerfooger MF-101, so the Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe it's not anymore on your board? And do you have in program to do a video demo of the Moogerfooger MF-101?
Honestly I never had both to compare directly side by side. But if my memory serves me correctly, the JoshWah was a bit 'dirtier' for lack of a better word. Felt a bit more raw. Whereas the 3leaf is more of a traditional 2-pole low pass filter, super clean and quacky.
@@ZacharyRizer That was the impression I got from watching your videos side-by-side. The gain knob on the JoshWah really drives the sound a lot. I think your memory does serve you correctly. One for grit, the other a bit more for some retro funk
Spencer is going to have to up his customer service/relations if he wants to keep charging these prices for his pedals. Great pedals. Tough price. Almost non-existent customer service. There, I said it.
I had a perfect customer service experience with spencer though! Great stuff has a certain price from time to time. There is always a cheaper option. And thank you Zach for another great review!
Hi Zach, I'm looking to buy a envelope filter. I'm tossing up between: 3Leaf Proton Micro-Tron IV Source Audio Spectrum Any preference that you'd recommend?
I am having the hardest time trying to figure out if i should take the plunge on one of these or keep waiting for a Xerograph Deluxe. Any suggestions from fellow bassheads, or possibly the bass king, Mr Rizer, himself? I'd appreciate it!
I really think, and I may not be the only one thinking this, but you could certainly do an amazing comparison between the 3Leaf Proton and the Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe. They are fairly close in reverence in the bass community, and a comparison would be wonderful to see/hear.
Cheers and thank you for putting these kinds of videos out!
I hear those thundercat licks
I’m a guitar player but I love your demos
I was reading the manual while listening and they straight up described the low position for the range control as "extra deep and chonky" Gotta appreciate a company that can have some fun lol
The new description for the sub switch on the Octabvre MkIII reads something like, "Enter the Thicc Dimension"
Zach I have been watching your videos since I first got into pedals. You were a big help when I wanted to not only understand effects, but how they work with bass guitar. Thank you.
Your pedal videos are great but I would love to hear more of your music, your composition and jam videos are awesome!
Agghh... I already have the Chromatron, but i've been eyeing this for its smaller size to go on my compact gigging board. I'm sold.
7 months later, still super happy with the Proton. I keep the Chromatron around, but the Proton goes on gigs.
@@jdjk7 what are the major differences between the proton and the chromatron, other then footprint of course? i want to get one of them but which is more useful would you say?
Does one do something what the other cant?
@@coolerthanyou9548 Hi, sorry I missed this comment. The Proton and Chromatron are the same circuit, the Proton is simply stripped down. The Chromatron has a mix knob and band pass switch, an attack knob as well as a decay knob, an effects loop & fx loop switch, an expression input and footswitch, and a boost knob.
The band pass and mix control let you get more authentic wah-type sounds which use a band pass rather than a low pass. Mix is vital for keeping low end when band-passed. Boost lets you get a little more volume for solos or for pushing a dirt box, especially because sometimes you experience a bit of volume drop when using the band pass with the mix at 50/50. The expression input and footswitch let you plug in an expression pedal to use the Chroma wah-style, and the footswitch toggles between the envelope and the expression pedal.
The attack control is helpful, but IMO it is not a super critical part of the pedal for me.
The fx loop is probably the most useful part of the Chroma for me. Basically, stick your fuzzes/distortions in the fx loop, and they will be applied to the filtered sound without affecting your dynamics. That way you can have a fuzzy synth tone but still be able to play the envelope dynamically. I have recently moved back to the Chromatron over the Proton on my main board for this exact reason, because I was just totally oblivious to this extremely useful feature and just trying to deal with the dynamic loss in vain.
@@jdjk7 Thank you for that incredibly in depth comment! The fx loop definitely sounds like a major advantage
@@coolerthanyou9548 I've actually just sold my Proton as I got rid of some stuff. It's a good pedal, but I don't see myself going back to it after learning how to properly use the Chromatron.
Love this pedal. Any idea when more will be made? I was told this summer.
Sold. I hope they paid you for that professional demonstration.
Looks like a paid review.
Great video man. Did you know you got shouted out in the Janek Gwizdala Practice Room podcast?
@@ZacharyRizer The Practice Room episode 59.
Excellent walk through, thank you!
was that a thundercat inspired line at around 6:09 ?
Lucky enough to have this one. It’s awesome and fairly easy. I said I was lucky because I want a Doom2 and Octabvre and they are out of stock and the used prices online are like double normal price lol smh
Thank you for the great video!
My pedal is on the way..,,
Outstanding pedal showcasing as always Zachary! Before I BIG SPEND One question: For straight up pure diverse creative variety of easy to dial in and usable deep funky sounds. 3leaf Proton V4, Josh Wah, Wonder Love Deluxe V2, TWA Tiny Dipper Mark II, Or the Discombobulator 2? What one gives me the absolute varied experimental palette out of these in your humble opinion? Rebuilding my new funk sound and I'm back down to one diverse envelope Filter my Macrodose, but looking to put it in the mix with one of those other petals mentioned. All that because I'm still patiently waiting for that Almighty Chromatron to get restocked! Thank U brotha continued excellence👍✌️
Hello nice demo wondering how is this pedal when play loud setting on stage.I've been having problem my envelope filter sound great at low volume,When I have to turn my rig up on stage it goes crazy.
Which one is better, this one or Joshwah by broughton
Hey Zach, if you ever got a chance, could you do a Review on the Old Blood Noise Endeavors Haunt Fuzz?
great review! thanks!
a question, 3leaft proton or Iron Ether Xerograph Dlx for a bubbly, jamiroquai-eske Envelope filter?
I had the 3 leaf wonderlove before, was nice, but didn't really get what I wanted, many times the filter would just open and the bubblyness was difficult to get consistent with dynamics change in playing. (I am trying to use the filter on the HX stomp now but it is not so good)
Did you find a better pedal sir?
@@RitchieRosson I did! I got a Solid Gold FX Funk Lite and I am really happy with it. (I had EHX, MXR, many others before and I am happy with the Funk Lite)
@@nicholasbtorretta Oh awesome! Thank you buddy. I have an MXR and not that impressed.
@@RitchieRosson MXR is an ok filter if you know how to dial it in, but i had it and sold it. Happy with Proton and Chromatron now.
jdjk7 Awesome. Merry funky Christmas .
Great video!
I'm a D800 user too... what where your settings? Or were you running pre EQ?
Do you play in a band?
Hi Zachary, awesome video as always. I have 1 question, I see that you use often the Moogerfooger MF-101, so the Iron Ether Xerograph Deluxe it's not anymore on your board? And do you have in program to do a video demo of the Moogerfooger MF-101?
How does this compare to Broughton's Josh Wah in your opinion?
Honestly I never had both to compare directly side by side. But if my memory serves me correctly, the JoshWah was a bit 'dirtier' for lack of a better word. Felt a bit more raw. Whereas the 3leaf is more of a traditional 2-pole low pass filter, super clean and quacky.
@@ZacharyRizer That was the impression I got from watching your videos side-by-side. The gain knob on the JoshWah really drives the sound a lot. I think your memory does serve you correctly. One for grit, the other a bit more for some retro funk
Hi, what brand and model is that bass?
What headphones do you use
So is the tone a LPF?
Spencer is going to have to up his customer service/relations if he wants to keep charging these prices for his pedals. Great pedals. Tough price. Almost non-existent customer service. There, I said it.
Yeah, I'd love a Chromatron but, GAWD DAMN!
I'm a one-man shop and things get really busy around here. I'm not perfect. Email me again if I missed you.
I had a perfect customer service experience with spencer though! Great stuff has a certain price from time to time. There is always a cheaper option. And thank you Zach for another great review!
@@3LEAFAUDIO I get Spencer. I thought this would help. Cheers.
Hi Zach, I'm looking to buy a envelope filter. I'm tossing up between:
3Leaf Proton
Micro-Tron IV
Source Audio Spectrum
Any preference that you'd recommend?
@@ZacharyRizer it's definitely more versatile and a lot more affordable. Have you ever played a Fernandes FR-3F Funky Filter?
hey Zachary - have you compared this to the 3 leaf WonderLove envelope filter? Would you say it sounds deeper, quicker?
I am having the hardest time trying to figure out if i should take the plunge on one of these or keep waiting for a Xerograph Deluxe. Any suggestions from fellow bassheads, or possibly the bass king, Mr Rizer, himself? I'd appreciate it!
@@ZacharyRizer Thanks so much for the reply! So for more Moog MF-101 sounds, go for the Xerograph?
@@ZacharyRizer Awesome, thanks so much for your wisdom, I appreciate it sir and as always, great playing and super informative videos. Thanks again!
Bass Face at 13:09 :)
LOL!
You are a god