BASS PEDALS - The Ultimate ENVELOPE FILTER Battle
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2024
- Testing 12 Bass Envelope Filter Pedals across the categories of Responsiveness, Varied Sustain, Articulateness, and Chords!
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Hello Nate, do you have the sheet music for these pieces you play? I would really like to understand some of the techniques you use.
Awesome video Nate! You definitely do our SupaFunk justice :) Leaving our link here for the curious, solidgoldfx.com/products/supa-funk-envelope-filter
Good grief, that's some awesome playing there! Really useful to demonstrate pedals like this!
I still have the Q-Tron myself (which is pretty similar to the original Mu-Tron III, which I sold a long time ago for a pretty penny). It has that classic sound and keeps the low-end pretty well intact, unlike some of the other options.
However my favorite envelope pedal was my old modded DOD Envelope Filter. It's not the same model as the DOD shown here, and I had it modded to add a crossover filter (it mixed together a low-passed version of the input signal with a high-passed version of the effect). The reason I liked it so much is that the filter resonance in the DOD can be set to sound incredibly aggressive, and it reacts really well to your playing. And the mod I had done fixed the issue where the original would just lose all low end when you're playing it hard, and it fixed the issue where the low-end could really get out of control when the filter resonance was at a very low frequency.
Sadly it was stolen at a gig :(
After this video i can understand why the MXR is one of the most popular envelope pedals. The source audio spectrum is the most versatile pedal and it is somehow not "fair" to compare it with the other pedals. Great playing, wonderfull riffs.
Man, your playing is so clean... Insane.
This is probably my favorite bass effect. Always sounds so funky. Incredible playing as always Nate.
I'm mostly stoked about your awesome playing. 👍 Sounds great!
I like the variety of sounds you were showcasing in this video. Well done.
I liked the MXR and the Way Huge more than all the others. They seemed to have a nice throaty sweep without getting too thin and quacky like the other pedals
The Spectrum ended my hunt for the ultimate Envelope Filter. Its versatility and programmability is insane, as with most Source Audio products. But the kicker is that others more experienced in the nuances of other envelope filters have offered up their presets of various other envelope filters, and if you want a certain one, you can find pretty much all of them, download it to the pedal, and use it. And, I have found it to be the most responsive SA pedal straight out of the box. Just a pure funk machine.
exactly why i got one
great video
12:00 how you pull this line off so effortlessly is quite inspiring to me. That's a slick bassline.
The very first pedal I ever purchased was an envelope filter, a Mu-Tron III with power supply, in 1977. This is the sound I have in my head. I'd still have it today if my guitarist hadn't split town with it. I haven't had an envelope filter since but this video has reawakened my desire for one. Based solely on this video, my consistent favorite was the EHX Q-Tron+. Given its size and that it requires 24v, it's not one to make my short list though the Nano might. I also really liked the Source Audio Spectrum though I'd prefer not needing a computer to get optimum use from it. The one that surprised me most was the Keeley Neutrino. I thought it was terrific in each style. I'm a bit taken aback by the TalkBass opinions of it and wonder if there's any merit to them. The EBS BassIQ is very impressive. I understand why people like the MXR but I prefer having a low pass setting. Hearing it with more clean mixed in might change my mind. I've narrowed my choice to 4 pedals: Keeley Neutrino / Source Audio Spectrum / EBS BassIQ / Mu-Tron Microtron IV
I also had the Mu-Tron III (with power supply). It's the classic and still sounds and plays great. I sold it for a pretty penny a long time ago and replaced it (eventually) with a Q-Tron, which I think was meant to be replacing it (and it is honestly pretty close). I have some issues with the Q-Tron though, because it's not very reliable. The original 24v power adapter didn't last very long, and now it has the issue that when it gets warm it starts to distort and lose all low-end. So I can't honestly recommend it, but your mileage may vary.
I'm playing now with a Zoom multi-effects pedal (of all things), which actually has a really good Q/Mu-Tron emulation that I might actually prefer over the Q-Tron. It doesn't have all the options of the Q/Mu-Tron but it sounds great and I think the envelope of the filter reacts to my playing a little bit better than the originals. Perhaps something to consider to try as well.
I have an EBS and love it to death
No joke i been looking for an envelope filter and Nate delivers my thoughts.
Well, I’ll throw in my two cents. Recognizing that all of these pedals will have their uses (Maybe Spectrum having the widest range of sounds) and some having sounds that maybe no other pedal will have, based on the presentation here, for the first three tests, I have to go with the MXR. To me, it had the best frequency range and handled everything Nate threw at it really well, producing the filter effect clearly even through really fast runs. On the fourth test, it warbled on the chords. Others were worse. Some just seem to miss the chords.I think the Spectrum was good and the Boss worked, although I think it’s not actually a filter pedal. The DOD surprised me by handling the chords well. Naturally, this is just my opinion and others may/will hear things differently. Anyway, great filter shootout!
Thank you! Would like to see the moog MF-101 LowPass and aguilar filter twin also🤗
Unfair comparison. Nate can make anything sound good. Seriously though, great video Nate.
Wow. They all sound different. I might have to grab a few. Spectrum, MXR, and the Supa Funk are on my "first round" list. Thanks Nate!
Did you get one? I have an MXR but not funky enough.
dude you are one HECK of a bass player. those examples were no joke. insane skills, insane groove feel. cheers
Surprised no MuTron was compared here. Also Soundblox Filter Pro..... Great playing and cool demo!
MXR is just about all you could want/need. Sounds great. Way Huge and Dreadbox were also impressive. Honorable mentions to the SA Spectrum and EQD Spacial Delivery for just sounding cool and different.
Man I really need to dig my old bass out of the cupboard. It's been 10 years and I stopped playing when I did the family thing. I have an old Dod envelope filter from the late 90s, ohh and an old zoom multi effect doo dah. Thanks for the vid!
Mxr and q trim out front. Keely sounds good too
Overall the EBS sounded the best to me. The MXR and Way Huge were great too. The Spectrum was the fastest at catching all the notes in the Articulation round. Wish you showed the extra weird sample/hold sequencey sounds the Spatial Delivery also does.
The way huge sounded just right 👍
Every time I watch this video I have a new favourite. Seen it 37 times :)
Nate makes everything sound great! That said I'm a fan of the Q Tron+
The env filter on the Meris Enzo is the one for me, sounds especially good live, really clear and articulate
I have been listening to this everyday. It's like my favorite video. And I personally like the Q-Tron plus best.
Nate, first of all it's hard to find the words to give regards to your amazing playing technique. Sky is the limit, but for me it looks you're beyond it! Regarding envelope filters, each of them has their own character and it's very subjective, but as far as I could tell from your samples, my overall pick would be EHX Qtron+ and Dreadbox Kinematic... Thanks for this video!
Man i could listen to this man funk all friggin day
It makes me really happy how the MXR did compared to all the other pedals because this is the one I happen to have completely by chance. (Bought on a whim with store credit and this was the only bass pedal the store had.)
Man I really, really like the SupaFunk and the Attack Vector. The Spectrum really shined in the 'articulateness' section. What patch did you use with that? The Mu-Tron Micro-Tron IV and 3 Leaf Audio Proton would have been nice to see thrown into the mix. Honestly, not a bad pedal in the batch. Each definitely had it's own personalty and character.
All of them had a unique sound. The Earthquaker Spatial Delivery and the Dreadbox Kinematic would be top of my list but most had something to offer. I did not expect those two to be my top picks going in. Judging by the already posted comments this is quite subjective.
They all sound amazing! I think the MXR might be my choice.
Yea, how did you know i was looking for a video like this , cause I've been shopping for a filter !!!
For me, the articulation and tone are the most important. With that in mind, MXR is the best all around with a relatively natural sound. Way Huge and EQD were the best and most interesting of the synthier ones. Dreadbox, Keeley and EBS also sounded really good.
I have the way huge attack vector, got it from the Dunlop team at a pedal show, the envelope filter mode on it sounds great on bass, nice and simple too, which is good. Only problem is the phaser mode, it suck the low end completely out. So you are correct in saying it isn't intended for bass.
To me the q tron plus and the spectrum are the most versatile, the don't go full wet and let some of the bass sound. But I also think that you may a need a more bootsy type of sound, and to me that sounds best on the earthquale pedal.
Also, some synth sounds can be achieved with some of the other pedals. Great video overall !!!
MXR and qtron for the win!
VERY surprised at how much I like the Way Huge Active Vector. Might have to pick one up now...
I have both a Q-tron (a smaller model, however) and Kinematic, though, I mainly got the latter as a CV controllable filter for my synths.
EMMA Discumbobulator... one of the best , IMO 😄
Thanks for this video If you can make a video about to teach each pedal effects would be great, I mean understand its function. Thus it to learn how to configure a bass pedal as the Zoom B1Xon. Thank You
Nate, all sound great because of your spectacular playing.
But the MCR and the Spectum bright lighter
My top 3 picks would be EBS, Source Audio, and Death by Audio.
Very cool, it would be interesting to have an original mutron in the mix to here where it all started. and maybe something from 3leaf, his envelopes are generally considered some of the best today, but $$$
awesome video
Great demo. I’m looking at that headstock and wondering how come more manufacturers don’t do the tuners this way. It only makes sense to have the Estring tuner, the farthest apart.
MXR M82B absolutely steals the trophy, nothing else comes close
i agree but im also a big fun of the supa funk, it has a nice feeling
Yes it was on top , but you can't reverse the sweep on it which is necessary for a couple of songs I'm trying to emulate
I don't have any use for envelope filters, I'm just here for your insane grooves.
I listened to this comparison with good headphones and it came as surprise how different kinds of algorithms there were to compare. Even though being envelope filters, I still prefer gadgets that let the whole frequency spectrum come through. I mean, bass still has got to sound bass instrument, right?
To me EH Qtron and Keeley had the best sound hifi wise. They "spoil" the original signal the least. Supa and Dreadbox with their extreme effect were a bit tricky to compare on the other hand.
I was slightly dissapointed with the sound of MXR, Boss, Death by Audio, and also Ebs that I own myself. Naturally, different settings can make me change the verdict considerably 😄
Spectrum si very good!
I like the Supa Funk most. Has anyone got one?
how u do this with no mu tron?!?
Or a Proton 😎
Normally not so nitpicky and I understand it's impossible to cover all grounds BUT it's a real shame you didn't add the Aguilar Twin Filter since that is unique AND popular enough to warrant it's place here.
Anyway thanks for the awesome shootout ❤
What's the exp/ctl jack on the boss dynamic wah?
Damn, dude! I have to unsubscribe. Every time I visit your channel, I am destroyed! LOL :) No seriously! Your content is off-the-charts good. You are among the very best. This is how all reviews should be. You are putting each pedal through the most extreme workouts. I am amazed at how you combine so many techniques to make the most fantastic bass lines. Bravo! Well done! Please keep them coming! By the way, the MXR won this race, in my personal opinion.
DOD 440 all day for almost all applications..can't mess with the oldest.
I would love to see this same thing with compressor pedals.
is it just me or your vocal range is the same as davie 504 but one octave down?
hey Nate!
Spectrum and Keely!
If I could play like that ❤
MXR, Keeley, and Death By Audio really surprised me.
Qtron is an amazing name
This fuckers just a beast
Dave made them all sound good now i want them all. Just kidding i already have the c4
Supa Funk!
Spectrum and Keeley for me
Qtron was way better than I thought it would be and it looks like you can reverse the sweep too
Akai deep impact reigns supreme
2:37 is the best pedal!
Yea MXR took this one; Supa funk and qtron right behind it though.
I really dig the Attack Vector. ^__^;
But my wallet says NO! :::for now:::
mxr and dreadbox
👍💪👌
Supa Funk..all the way
By the way, great playin, bro.. you’re a motherfunker!
Mxr and dreadbox kill the game. The EBS is subtile.
Spectrum>DOD>Qtron
I'll add my two cents as a envelope filter addict. I've watched every video I could on envelope filters. I've seen a few videos where the demonstrator will leave all controls at 50% which is ridiculous. The sensitivity control and Q control are paramount to adjusting the filter. Each song, each bass, each style of playing usually requires a different set up of these two controls. Unfortunately the only way find the right pedal is to try it yourself.
Q-tron over all
Anything under $300?
Most of these are….