I think if pentious gets kicked out, he'd kinda - sorta be on board with returning to his friends in hell... and proving to them that redemption is possible followed by an invasion of the redeemed.
@@NightmareRex6 It sounds like a lose lose situation for Sera because if more Exterminators come more weapons will be left behind so they are better off giving up and leave Hell in peace.
Sir pentious, whether he's kicked out or not, is extremely valuable not just as a friend but as proof that human souls can be redeemed. Also, if he is kicked out, he could go to his friends and tell them everything. If not, then Emily could arrange a meeting with Charlie and tell her about pentious. Regardless it's a win lose situation for Charlie and her friends, as if pentious went back to hell, yes he could be with his friends again but then he wouldn't be where he belongs. If he stays in heaven, then he would be in the right place, but he wouldn't be with his friends.
If Sera does that then she would have to lie to everyone about him going there and that would be like treason against her own people who she is supposed to support.
@@atreyisimagination if you watch at how she speaks, how she carefully avoids the word "extermination", the look in her eyes during "you didn't know" compared to Lute it's clear that she agreed because she felt that was her only option
@@TheyCall_MeEllieexx hell is awful even in the show, people killing each other, overlords after your soul, sinners ready to kill you to climb the food chain The end of the season makes quite clear that heaven is the goal to reach and Sera has no power to decide who stays and who leaves since Pentious got there without her knowing
If Sir Pentious gets kicked out heaven because he's redeemed sinner that would be ridiculous and unheard of. Emily would start questioning heavens system. But would she then also casted to hell because questioning heaven and becoming fallen angel?
Sera will most likely fall. She already started questioning the way heaven works by her looks on episode 8. Its also implied that falling is Sera's biggest fear based on the way she talks about Lucifer. And about Lucifer, he fell cuz he brought evil into the world by giving free will to humanity behind heaven's back, just like Sera authorized the extermination behind heaven's back as well, which is proven true by the reaction of angels during the court. With that said, she'll cause the very uprising she wanted to prevent now that demons know that angels can be killed. In short, Sera is following the same path as Lucifer, meaning that she'll most likely have the same fate, which is exactly what she fears the most
sera would do this shit,she's most likely going to be in denial,there's no way sera's going to be well I fucked up,time to do what I should've been doing this entire time,my job that I've been failing at
I have a feeling sera is more just in shock that sir pentious got redeemed since it means that countless sinners got permanently killed instead of being redeemed. Maybe Angel just hasn’t been redeemed yet because of the soul contract ?
I think the only reason sir pentious got redeemed is because he was 'killed' again by Adam. And since Angel didn't get killed again he is not in heaven. I think they need to be killed again to move on. Just my theory
@@raven5048except if he was killed, his essence would have become one with Hell. That’s what happens to Sinners who permanently die. I think that at the very last possible moment, Sir Pentious was whisked away by a golden light and brought to Heaven because his actions proved that he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. Unfortunately, the Egg Boiz that were on the airship can’t attest to that because they were killed by the blast.
I believe that's a definite if sara tried to send sir pentious back the top being would not be very happy with sara he would probably be angry for her Question. His decision he'd probably punishher for doubt in his choice
My headcannon is: Sir Pentious in heaven: Uh, this place isssss really boring. Can I go back down? Sera: We can't open the gates to let you down and even less knowing you are such a special case. Sir Pentious: *Gives an orange to Sera* What about now? Sera: What are you doing? If this is your shot at a bribe know it is not going to work Sir Pentious: I'm a snake giving away fruit. Isn't that what Lucifer did to be sent to hell? Sera: ...
so true,even matpat wanted to do theories and lore to the show if I remember right,that was bad timing,matpat should've stayed on youtube for at least 3 more years
One word: LIMBO. Guys, Sera kicking him back to hell would be counterproductive, Sir Pentious himself is the evidence that it's possible to ascend. One thing is one sinner kicked out, but if that motivated even more demons to redeem themselves, that wouldn't be no longer controllable. So, Sera must avoid making him known by EVERYONE, and I mean everyone in HELL AND HEAVEN. HH has a strong inspiration from Dante's Inferno. It wouldn't be crazy that realm existed. She could sent him there, maybe he might meet Charon or Samael. Who knows. Also, I like to think that the whole story of Hazbin hotel could be the story of the creation of Purgatory.
Sera kicking Sir Pentious is her going against divine judgement, which is an important foundation for heaven, which means that she'll be casted out the time she takes that action
in dantes inferno, limbo is a circle of hell so technically it would also still be counterproductive since eventually, someones gonna notice that theres a redeemed soul there also, HH does not take inspiration from dante's inferno since theres only 7 rings, representing the 7 deadly sins in dante's inferno theres 9 circles of hell we can also add on that the rings in HH are Lust, Pride, Wrath, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy and Greed meanwhile in dante's inferno, the circles of hell are Limbo, Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Anger, Heresy, Violence, Fraud and Treachery also in dante's inferno, each circle is its own punishment whilst in HH its basically fucking Las Vegas just correcting you that hazbin is not taking strong inspiration from dantes inferno in fact im pretty sure it takes more inspiration from christian myth than anything else
@@makthemaniac1 with inspiration I don't mean an exact copy. The concept of rings and such distribution is from it. Of course HH is something very distorted from it. Anyway, Sir Pentious in limbo is still a possibility, taking in count that mostly intelectual people were there and weren't evil.
Even though Sera is a Seraphim, it’s clear that she isn’t in charge of everything in heaven, like how souls get into heaven, seeing as how 1) Sir Pentious is literally just dropped in front of her and not spawned at the gate like any other soul, and 2) that look of utter shock when it happened. None of the other angels seem to know what gets a soul into heaven either, so there must be a higher power that is in charge of that. Maybe this universes God? And this higher power clearly sees that sinners are capable of being redeemed like Sir Pentious. So if Sera does anything to him, wouldn’t she be going against heaven herself? And if she goes against heaven, she’ll end up like Lucifer, fallen. Though I don’t see her issue (if there is any) with letting redeemed souls into heaven. She’s worried that hell would have an uprising, so why not try to have sinners redeem themselves so there are less human souls in hell and more in heaven. That way, there will be less souls on hells side and more on heavens if an uprising were to happen. And since she isn’t in charge of who gets into heaven, there probably will be less of a risk of a double agent since they’ll probably be thrown back down and not let back in.
I would really hope that God would be the higher power who sees sinners can be redeemed. Where is God where has he been in this entire show? Why wasn’t he in heaven?
@@victorialaing4227 fan theory here. Angels derive power from their faith they are doing the right thing. Meaning anyone who challenges them could shatter their illusion and they loose strength. If they belive they are in the right everything is permitted. If someone tries to challenge that belief they have one of two choices. Argue their pov and fortify their position or silence their critic by sending them to hell as a fallen angel. Because they can't admit they were wrong. God in this instance I don't belive he will speak to angels. It's more like he is the laws of the world. You only see him through his actions. By redeeming sir pentius, God just declared that serap was in the wrong. That sinners CAN be redeemed. It's also likely a test to see what she will do. If she fails, she falls. The fact God dosent have a physical body also makes sense biblically. Evil exists where God is not present. Every good act. Every kindness. Every act of selflessness. Every time someone sucessfuly resists temptation. God is there.
@@MrGantron414 I like your theory though for the makes sense biblically it does not either since its stated Humans were made in Gods image which would imply he has a physical form
Sera already doesn't want to believe nor wants anyone else to believe redemption is possible. By kicking pentious out of heaven, she'd be revealing that redemption is possible to both angels and sinners. Don't forget St Peter's words "where people are happy they died." I do not believe the angels in heaven would be "happy" to learn their loved ones can be redeemed, but the seraphim refuses the redeemed souls. That would cause upheaval and unrest within the angels that were human. Most of them probaby believe in the sadness Adam said " Hell is forever whether they like it or not. Had the chance to behave better. Now they boil in a pot." So for someone to "escape" hell, it would cause fear, panic, joy, sadness, all the range of emotions. I don't believe sera will or could reveal the truth, peace in heave would shatter. While the angel of peace, is not shattered an ounce; in fact she's more peaceful. I also believe Emily would fight tooth and nail to protect pentious not only from Sera but anyone else that would come for him who knows the truth. Emily wouldn't let Charlie's hard work go down the drain without a fight, not after Charlie proved their shared view point can be reality. Emily IS the peace keeper, so if she's fighting anyone they are clearly the bad guys cuz all she wants is happiness and peace.
Let's hope Lute never finds out. She was willing to maim a fellow angel and leave them for dead, and she looked fucking pissed that Emily, a seraph who is above Lute in the hierarchy, even called her out on her behavior and actions during the song in court. Lute would be the sort of person who, if she found out Emily was harboring an ascended sinner-turned-winner, she'd cut Emily down if she could just to get to Sir Pentious, and Emily hardly looks like someone who can properly fight even if she should be more powerful than Lute. Things are about to get very ugly in season 2.
What gets me is how suspiciously absent god is in all this. I think Sera is keeping this from him and I think something is distracting god from whats going on in hell and Heaven. In the end, i also suspect this story is going to end with Charlie founding purgatory.
@@theclowny57 Perhaps but at the same time, if God ordered the extermination. That would of had made things simpler for Sera. Aka, "God said its a order so My hands are tied." But Sera is being sneaky/secretive.
a have small theory that emily might form a secret resistances in heaven with other angles including angle dust sister molly and have sir pentious as her right hand man and if emily does end up as a fallen angel it could end up being another reason for more angles to join the resistances
She won't, she doesn't look like someone who would act against such definitive proofs, besides it's clearly not in her power, obviously there's an higher will who decides that
Sera will either kick him out or lock him up, just make Charlie think that he was not redeemed. It's obvious that she's scared and thinks that someone from hell is going to cause chaos if they go to heaven. I would be surprised if Emily falls even if she's so pure
I feel like Sera is almost like a tyrant because she’s so focused on how much she wants to make everything perfect in Heaven that she is willing to silence anyone who may pose a threat to the world order of Heaven
Also another way to make people not question her is if she brings the hazbin hotel cast back up to heaven to have another meeting with this proof that the hazbin hotel works
I bet there will be a song montage of sinners going to heaven and sera smashes the counter Also the look on seras face was like holy shit god is gonns kill me
I think its more likely he'll get locked up. Emily would tolerate it better if given the excuse of "he could be dangerous." But more importantly Sera would lock him up to keep it a secret, if it got out that the sinners could of been redeemed this whole time there would be chaos as the citizens of heaven are already reeling from the exterminations being exposed. I don't think Pen is safe.
Or, just a theory, maybe Sera would brainwash him and secretly use him as a pawn against the demons. If they could secretly keep Lilith in heaven, they could also be plotting something under the table, right? Think about it, Sir. Pentious experienced Hell firsthand, he knows the demons better, has leadership skills, good at building weapons, and has a sense of honor. What if Sera promised him a brighter future if he could prove himself worthy? Now that Adam is gone, wouldn't he be a perfect choice to take over and wear the mask? Therefore, it will be much easier for Sera to convince Sir. Pentious to totally put the past behind him. That would be a very conflicting and intrersting story for the show.
I also think that he might be hidden away from other angels, because the court may feel that they may be a bad impression on the residents of heaven, and also because he isn’t a “pure angel” just a theory of what I think.
Its my head Cannon that it is because of Adam listing the rules, that this could happen. There were no set rules before. So now, every harvest gives sinners that have redeemed themselves, a chance to die in hell and go to heaven.
My theory is that if she does force him out of Heaven, he wont be going back to Hell, but rather to purgatory. Loosing all his color and sense of self as he withers away.
Archangels are below seraphs in the hierarchy of angels, he'd likely not be able to do much to her. Seraphs are also below only the Holy Trinity (the Father/God, the Son/Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit) in the hierarchy of Heaven. God is conspicuously absent in this series so far, and angels were said to have created humanity here which is normally God's thing is religion proper, implying he either doesn't exist in this setting or was incredibly hands off in this universe.
I don't think Sera was disgusted at all. I think she was more shocked that a soul from hell was able to ascend cause I think she believed it wasn't possible...until she saw Serpentious
I have a rather interesting idea that, once knowledge of Sir Pentious's redemption becomes widespread, it will cause a tremendous deal of unrest in both Heaven and Hell. Here's how I think it would play out: Of course, once everyone in Heaven comes to find out about Sir Pentious, no doubt there will be those "pureblood fanatics" who would want absolutely nothing to do with him, and even try to force him back to Hell in some way (or maybe try to imprison him for "trespassing"), only to be met with opposition from Heaven denizens on the other side. Those on said other side may be intrigued, captivated, and even outright ecstatic about Pentious's redemption, particularly those who have friends and family who are in Hell. He may well end up becoming a sort of celebrity, with many Heaven journalists wanting to get firsthand interviews with him, probably asking things like "How would you describe the average lifestyle in Hell?", "Did you truly feel like the bad things you did in life outweighed the good?", and probably most importantly, "What EXACTLY did you do just before you manifested here in Heaven?" Of course, with these two opposing sides in Heaven, there would undoubtedly be a rift that forms, threatening to destabilize the delicate balance the Seraphim have struggled to maintain. I feel like Emily would easily side with those who support Sir Pentious, but as for Sera... it may be a borderline-impossible decision. While she knows it's not her place to go against divine judgment, she just cannot accept something that goes blatantly against the worldview she's always had. And perhaps the irony could be that, while Sera repeatedly warned Emily that she risks becoming fallen by sympathizing with Sinners, Sera herself may be the one to fall if she cannot accept what is, to her, irreconcilable inconsistency in divine judgment, leaving her only with the Hazbin Hotel, the very system she was entirely pessimistic toward, as her only hope of returning to Heaven. As for Hell, once it's proven that Sinners can be redeemed, no doubt everyone would work to start changing their ways, with Sinners, realizing that they've been holding themselves back. Of course, there would be those who have just given up completely, but hey, that's their loss. But then the Hellborn demons would start to wonder if THEY can perhaps be redeemed as well, only to realize that, without human souls, they cannot be allowed to enter Heaven. This, too, would likely cause a rift between Hellborns and Sinners, with the former insisting it's unfair that the latter has a chance to go to Heaven, and that those native to hell are now just completely "inferior." I feel many Sinners could easily point out that they've been eternally confined to the Pride Ring, and victims of exterminations that eradicate souls needlessly, only for this to just feel like comparing a mountain to a molehill for the Hellborn. TL;DR: Sir Pentious arriving in Heaven would cause a rift on both sides. For Heaven, it would be between those who believe Sinners would be deserving of redemption, and those who do not. For Hell, it would be between the Hellborn (as well as nihilistic minority of Sinners) and the majority of Sinners, with the former believing it unfair that they cannot be redeemed like human souls can. To me, it seems like all hell's about to break loose, both figuratively and literally. I don't think Charlie has thought ahead about the implications a redeemed Sinner could pose on both sides. This may very well be the start of a *massive* war on both sides.
Sounds like Sera is like any other politician. She doesn't want to let go of her power and do whatever it takes to hold onto it and when her corruption is exposed. Then she'll probably be kicked out of heaven.
Eh, I hope they dont go that route. I think it be really boring from a storytelling perspective (unless it leads to Emily becoming a fallen angel, which I think could be interesting). I'd much prefer the idea of Pentious staying in Heaven, and exploring the ramifications of a soul from hell ascending to heaven. With Sera having an internal conflict with herself, Heaven in an external conflict with itself, and Emily and Pentious becoming best of friends.
I would love to see other angels agreeing with Emily and fighting for sinners in hell to be redeemed and be given a second chance. That would be interesting drama to watch and I would love to see how Sera would react to how other angels react to finding out that she allowed the exterminations to happen. I wonder how God would react to sinners getting exterminated in hell. Why isn’t God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit in this show at all?
If he got kicked out of heaven, sere would for sure have/find a place to hide our Snakeboy... as if she would let him back to hell so that every learn about it that there is a chance.
theres a recent fan song and viddy by MilkyyMelodies called emily fallen angel song - "I'd Fall Again" thats super good and a really interesting idea if they were to take it in that direction
Question but does anyone else find it strange that when Sir Pentious appeared in front of Sera and Emily with his six pointed frill thing… I’m not sure but it just makes me feel like he’s an angel like Sera and Emily
I don't really see that happening. Her biggest reason for being against letting sinners into heaven was that she was terrified of going against the ineffable system that passes judgement on the souls of the dead based on criteria nobody really actually knows and potentially being punished for going against its will like Lucifer was punished for granting humans knowledge of good and evil. It would be pretty inconsistent for her to then turn around and go against the will of the system now by punting Sir Pentious out of heaven after the system placed him there.
no she won't she is more likely to try to hide him from the other angels either putting him on the beach or some where isolated, emily is most likely going to fall by challanging sera and spreading the truth. I dont think sera will kick him out but she will hide him away, and emily won't like that and when she starts to challange sera and lute she will most likely be the next fallen one, I dont think it was just for the moment that sera told emily she could fall if she keeps on questioning.
I feel like in this right moment Sera is more deserving of hell than just rehabilitated soul. He just sacrificed his life for his friends, adding that his souls automatically appeared not even before the gates but in Sera’s office. If that’s not a giant sign that someone above her like idk god wants him in Heaven I don’t know what is. He didn’t appear there by causality, it’s a sign for Sera that she is wrong and that soul is in this right moment more deserving of Heaven than a Seraphim who become a mass murderer.
Yeah but sir pentious never saw the perly gates so if u think about it the only one possible to force him to appear in front of sera is the god Almighty if u think about it
Nah, Sir Pentious got a second JUDGMENT. In the series, it was said to be done by God so no way Sera could ever kick him out without a valid reason. Besides, Sir Pentious should be outside Heaven's Gate just like the winners but ge didn't. So it might be God that teleported him straight up in Heaven even inside a building that would be belong to Seraphim Angels/Elder Angels.
Here's my take on this. Sera won't try and return Sir Pentious back, by the way its correct name is purgatory, his appearance will, if, Sera is the just leader she claims to be, will see this as the lords will. She will have to accept she was wrong and it means. Thousands of soul were lost by her order, losts that should have been in Heaven. The fact Pentious appeared before her says this is the Lord's doing, maybe Emily can point that out to her. If that is the case. I feel Sera will try and out when others will become, this will cause Charlie to understand Sir Pentious is in Heaven, sending Lucifer to check it and confirming it. Now Charlie has to figure out how. This will cause a story about the Vees trying to grab control of the hotel and the keys of redemption. In the end, Angle Dust escapes his contract, Valentino dies and the new character enters the story. Not to mention, a new alienates between Carmilla, Rosa and Alastair.
I doubt they will, because I have a feeling for whomever brought sir pentious to heaven will make sera into a fallen angel and be banish to hell or earth. I can see Paimon or stolas welcoming Sera to the Ars Goatia; while she can cope with Lucifer and possibly the two siblings can reconnect.
If Sera kicks Sir Pentious out of heaven, I can imagine this might be what causes Emily to become a fallen angel. Maybe she defends Pentious and tells Sera they have to tell Charlie, and it's cowardice to kick Pentious out just because she doesn't want to face the consequences of commiting genocide on so many demons. This would lead to an intense musical argument between the two (with a few comic relief moments of Pentious feeling awkward standing on the sidelines during a family feud), which would lead to a portal of Hell sucking in Pentious. Emily would then desperately grab him so he doesn't go back to Hell, leading to this exchange: Sera: Emily! Please! Remember what I said about you becoming a Fallen Angel? Emily: (While holding onto a piece of heaven You don't have to worry about that Sera... BECAUSE I QUIT!!!! (Let's go of heaven and let's herself be taken to hell with Pentious) AAAAHHHH!!! Pentious: AAHHHHH!!! Sera: EMILY! NO!
I will say it is interesting of an unrealistic take on the dynamic of Heavan and Hell this show has. Lucifer is a bad guy, but here he's not so much. Definitley hooked and intrigued to see where this show goes further.
This is the most likely to happen. Sera let Adam exterminate the demons to protect heaven. She said that in the show. So now that demons can come in heaven they can act kind in the hotel and get redeemed but In heaven their evil kill full thoughts can become a reality. So to protect heaven from these redeemed demons she will most likely send Pentious down.
I have a feeling it will be Emily or him or even both I mean Adam's dead Emily might fall even might be 4S and Emily could fall after or before him plus ➕️ Lillth is her only option to stop Charlie if he doesn't go down or if Emily falls
So I don’t think I’m to far off the mark in saying the reason for Angel been the way they are is they have never had anyone on their side before this is also why the hotel has such a big effect on him, he finally has people that care for him for no other reason that seeing him happy and healthy which I’m willing to guess is something completely new to them, even in his mortal life he only seemed close to his sister from what I’ve heard yes he was part of a mafia family but I’ve not heard anything nice said about his other members of the family, then he dies apparently from an OD and ends up in hell and I’m guessing falls into Valentinos web almost instantly (I find the relationship funny as Angle is based on a spider and val is a moth but it’s the spider been prayed upon, now can we kill Val please? The slower and more painful the better) in his whole life Charlie is probably the first person that dosnt want to use him.
She'll probably try. That or imprison/hide him. Problem is... what's so bad about sending him back at this point? He's redeemed AND he confessed to the one he loves and returning to Hell would reunite him with her. So whether he stays in heaven or goes back to Hell, he'll be fine.
Or, just a theory, maybe Sera would brainwash him and secretly use him as a pawn against the demons. If they could secretly keep Lilith in Heaven, they could also be plotting something under the table, right? Think about it, Sir. Pentious experienced Hell firsthand, he knows the demons better, has leadership skills, able to build weapons, and has a sense of honor. What if Sera promised him a brighter future if he could prove himself worthy? Now that Adam is gone, wouldn't he be a perfect choice to take over and wear the mask? Sera could alter his mind, wipe out his memory, or convince Sir. Pentious totally put the past behind through manipulation. That would be a very intrersting story to put in the show.
@ching-jungyang62 Quite a theory but it's riddled with holes... 1- You assume they even have the ability to brainwash. Hell, HE has that ability to a degree why would someone else try that on him? 2- "He has a sense of honor." The purges are levied against, not innocents, but overkill just for population control. Not justified. 3- There is literally NOTHING they can offer him now that he's in Heaven. Even if they tried to bribe him with reuniting him with CherryBomb, I doubt that'd work since HE only confessed to her. Doesn't mean she loves him or would if they reunited. 4- The one armed angel literally said "Now I'm in charge." No way would she relinquish the title to Sir Pentious. In fact. Wouldn't surprise me if she tried to kill him upon finding out he was up there.
Sera herself said that they didn’t know what it took for a soul to get into heaven, it is by divine judgment that one shows up at the gate with the name in the book. Sir Pentious materialized right in front of her and Emily. Obviously God was making a point! For Sera to force Sir Pentious out of heaven would be insubordination if not insurrection of divine authority. God may never be portrayed as a physical character in Hazbin Hotel but certainly portrayed as an invisible influence.
5:00 ied guess horror but probably not at him showing up but because him showing up now means she has been wrong and has been letting Adam kill potentially good souls for god knows how long and that is going to be hard on her as she thought it was the right thing. I don’t think she is as evil as Lute or Adam was I mean you can’t tell me that them two are not filled with hate.
She won't. Whatever force who sent him to Heaven won't allow her to. He bypassed the gate to appear directly in front of them, something that has never happened before. I'm pretty sure she understands the implication of that.
I don't think sera will kick him out because she protects whoever is in heaven or gets to heaven and he's considered a soul worthy of heaven so that would be against what her job is.
That outrageous seriously sir pentious might be the first of a kind the redemption for the sin that sent him into hell my is that his soul was cleansed but sera saw only the sin because she is blinded by pride n only her ways is the only way to be in heaven
Sera and elder angel believes were proof to be wrong and question if The extermination was the right choice. I have a theory that sinners can be redeem and go to heaven while non sinners that commit a sin would go to hell.
Honestly it's more painting heavens upper brass as Xenophobic to hell, and anyone willing to question it gets tossed down with the rabble they were advocating.
I think Emily must better than sera, because Emily have the same with Charlie "the demons can become angles" and sera have an extermination for Adam and she only want to defense her own crown. Sera is bad!😡
If Sera tries that, I imagine Emily will go all 'you can't fire me, I quit', grab Pentious, and leap down into Hell.
That sounds like her as she believe demon could reform,but she will hesitate a bit at it her sister so she will hesitate to do so
They’ll probably be a song about it
@@Erictrinh354yes I agree
@@iliveunderarock8070yes I agree 😊
@@stefaniarussoWhy do you say I agree in every comment section?
I think if pentious gets kicked out, he'd kinda - sorta be on board with returning to his friends in hell... and proving to them that redemption is possible followed by an invasion of the redeemed.
Yes I agree 😊
If what you predicted happens than it would completely backfire on Sera.
@@leebulger7112 good.
@@leebulger7112 resistance is assistance, hell can only kill angels BECUAE sera sent extemrinators and they dropped angel carmine steel!!!
@@NightmareRex6 It sounds like a lose lose situation for Sera because if more Exterminators come more weapons will be left behind so they are better off giving up and leave Hell in peace.
Sir pentious, whether he's kicked out or not, is extremely valuable not just as a friend but as proof that human souls can be redeemed. Also, if he is kicked out, he could go to his friends and tell them everything. If not, then Emily could arrange a meeting with Charlie and tell her about pentious. Regardless it's a win lose situation for Charlie and her friends, as if pentious went back to hell, yes he could be with his friends again but then he wouldn't be where he belongs. If he stays in heaven, then he would be in the right place, but he wouldn't be with his friends.
Yeah I agree
If Sera does that then she would have to lie to everyone about him going there and that would be like treason against her own people who she is supposed to support.
I don't think she will
This just means sera is just gonna sink herself lower
Sera's face is more of one of shock and "Oh Crap I'm gonna get an earful from the other angels"
She's not someone who's willing to hide the truth, it's clear in her body language during the sixth episode
@@EredediIsildurexample?sorry if I sound dumb but u kinda like character body language-
@@atreyisimagination if you watch at how she speaks, how she carefully avoids the word "extermination", the look in her eyes during "you didn't know" compared to Lute it's clear that she agreed because she felt that was her only option
@@EredediIsildur oki
@@EredediIsildur tysm
I speculate that Emily will be blessed by falling into Hell, and Sera will be cursed by remaining in Heaven.
Yes I agree
Heaven>>>>Hell I thought everyone knows that
@@Rosande10 In real life yes. But not in the context of this show
@@TheyCall_MeEllieexx hell is awful even in the show, people killing each other, overlords after your soul, sinners ready to kill you to climb the food chain
The end of the season makes quite clear that heaven is the goal to reach and Sera has no power to decide who stays and who leaves since Pentious got there without her knowing
Eh no@@TheyCall_MeEllieexx
If Sir Pentious gets kicked out heaven because he's redeemed sinner that would be ridiculous and unheard of. Emily would start questioning heavens system.
But would she then also casted to hell because questioning heaven and becoming fallen angel?
Most Likely yes which is something I wouldn't doubt happens
Agreed.
Sera does seem to be the type to do that. 😒😠🤦🏻♂️
Sera will most likely fall. She already started questioning the way heaven works by her looks on episode 8. Its also implied that falling is Sera's biggest fear based on the way she talks about Lucifer. And about Lucifer, he fell cuz he brought evil into the world by giving free will to humanity behind heaven's back, just like Sera authorized the extermination behind heaven's back as well, which is proven true by the reaction of angels during the court. With that said, she'll cause the very uprising she wanted to prevent now that demons know that angels can be killed. In short, Sera is following the same path as Lucifer, meaning that she'll most likely have the same fate, which is exactly what she fears the most
@@devastator2935 I believe that there's a quote here: One often meets their destiny on the paths they take to avoid it. 😈
feel like she WOULDN'T cause then everyone would know redemption is possible 👽
sera would do this shit,she's most likely going to be in denial,there's no way sera's going to be well I fucked up,time to do what I should've been doing this entire time,my job that I've been failing at
Alastor was right, Sera seeing Sir Pentious in Heaven mean't one thing, that their status quo's race has run.
Yeah I agree
Facts
oh this will be fun
Me: *Sees this*
Also me: *”WELCOME HOME IM GONNA MAKE YOU WISH THAT YOUD STAYD GONE*
I have a feeling sera is more just in shock that sir pentious got redeemed since it means that countless sinners got permanently killed instead of being redeemed. Maybe Angel just hasn’t been redeemed yet because of the soul contract ?
well there goes my redemption is the key to breaking a contract theory
Damn, One of the most believable theories I’ve heard yet good thinkin 🔥👍🏾
I think the only reason sir pentious got redeemed is because he was 'killed' again by Adam. And since Angel didn't get killed again he is not in heaven. I think they need to be killed again to move on. Just my theory
@@raven5048except if he was killed, his essence would have become one with Hell. That’s what happens to Sinners who permanently die. I think that at the very last possible moment, Sir Pentious was whisked away by a golden light and brought to Heaven because his actions proved that he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice. Unfortunately, the Egg Boiz that were on the airship can’t attest to that because they were killed by the blast.
@@waves2378most likely egg boiz are not sinners
Sera doesn't want to show sinners that redemption is possible, so she will definetly not kick Pentious from heaven
Yeah totally agree
She can't kick him out, he got there without her knowing so that's not a decision she can undo
I believe that's a definite if sara tried to send sir pentious back the top being would not be very happy with sara he would probably be angry for her Question.
His decision he'd probably punishher for doubt in his choice
Although she is a dumbass, so she probably will
That doesn’t make sense if sir pentious stays in heaven then how will people not find out that redemption is possible?
I don't think she would dare to go against entity that deemed Sir Pentious worthy to go in heaven.
My headcannon is:
Sir Pentious in heaven: Uh, this place isssss really boring. Can I go back down?
Sera: We can't open the gates to let you down and even less knowing you are such a special case.
Sir Pentious: *Gives an orange to Sera* What about now?
Sera: What are you doing? If this is your shot at a bribe know it is not going to work
Sir Pentious: I'm a snake giving away fruit. Isn't that what Lucifer did to be sent to hell?
Sera: ...
LOL
That made me laugh out loud once I realized what sir pentious meant
Molly, Olivia, St. Peter: *laughing*
If anyone deserves to be in Heaven, it's Sir Pentious. Also, what about the Egg Boiz?
True that
True😅
They will probably be in heaven by season 2
@@DemonSalesmen They Would Because They’re Hellborn… Hellborns Can’t Go To Heaven
@@rochellebone9052I agree
I was under the impression that Sera was more horrified by what she did that by Sir Pentious...
Emily: Charlie was right : )!!!
Sera: charlie was right?!?!?!,
The darker more scary looking elder looks like it could be The Root of All Evil or Roo for short
If Matpat didn't retire Hazbin Hotel would have probably had lore as deep as fnaf
so true,even matpat wanted to do theories and lore to the show if I remember right,that was bad timing,matpat should've stayed on youtube for at least 3 more years
You're not wrong You're not wrong
One word: LIMBO.
Guys, Sera kicking him back to hell would be counterproductive, Sir Pentious himself is the evidence that it's possible to ascend. One thing is one sinner kicked out, but if that motivated even more demons to redeem themselves, that wouldn't be no longer controllable. So, Sera must avoid making him known by EVERYONE, and I mean everyone in HELL AND HEAVEN.
HH has a strong inspiration from Dante's Inferno. It wouldn't be crazy that realm existed. She could sent him there, maybe he might meet Charon or Samael. Who knows.
Also, I like to think that the whole story of Hazbin hotel could be the story of the creation of Purgatory.
Sera kicking Sir Pentious is her going against divine judgement, which is an important foundation for heaven, which means that she'll be casted out the time she takes that action
in dantes inferno, limbo is a circle of hell
so technically it would also still be counterproductive since eventually, someones gonna notice that theres a redeemed soul there
also, HH does not take inspiration from dante's inferno
since theres only 7 rings, representing the 7 deadly sins
in dante's inferno theres 9 circles of hell
we can also add on that the rings in HH are Lust, Pride, Wrath, Gluttony, Sloth, Envy and Greed
meanwhile in dante's inferno, the circles of hell are Limbo, Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Anger, Heresy, Violence, Fraud and Treachery
also in dante's inferno, each circle is its own punishment whilst in HH its basically fucking Las Vegas
just correcting you that hazbin is not taking strong inspiration from dantes inferno
in fact im pretty sure it takes more inspiration from christian myth than anything else
@@makthemaniac1 with inspiration I don't mean an exact copy. The concept of rings and such distribution is from it. Of course HH is something very distorted from it. Anyway, Sir Pentious in limbo is still a possibility, taking in count that mostly intelectual people were there and weren't evil.
Purgatory is in the lore it's where Satan and Ro are lock up
Indeed. Charlie's ambition is purgatorial. And her soul-sister Emily is of like mind.
Even though Sera is a Seraphim, it’s clear that she isn’t in charge of everything in heaven, like how souls get into heaven, seeing as how 1) Sir Pentious is literally just dropped in front of her and not spawned at the gate like any other soul, and 2) that look of utter shock when it happened. None of the other angels seem to know what gets a soul into heaven either, so there must be a higher power that is in charge of that. Maybe this universes God? And this higher power clearly sees that sinners are capable of being redeemed like Sir Pentious. So if Sera does anything to him, wouldn’t she be going against heaven herself? And if she goes against heaven, she’ll end up like Lucifer, fallen.
Though I don’t see her issue (if there is any) with letting redeemed souls into heaven. She’s worried that hell would have an uprising, so why not try to have sinners redeem themselves so there are less human souls in hell and more in heaven. That way, there will be less souls on hells side and more on heavens if an uprising were to happen. And since she isn’t in charge of who gets into heaven, there probably will be less of a risk of a double agent since they’ll probably be thrown back down and not let back in.
Hell is overpopulated. They should be wiping out the demon population too. Not just the sinners.
Oh wait. Demons can actually fight back.
I would really hope that God would be the higher power who sees sinners can be redeemed. Where is God where has he been in this entire show? Why wasn’t he in heaven?
@@victorialaing4227 fan theory here. Angels derive power from their faith they are doing the right thing. Meaning anyone who challenges them could shatter their illusion and they loose strength.
If they belive they are in the right everything is permitted.
If someone tries to challenge that belief they have one of two choices.
Argue their pov and fortify their position or silence their critic by sending them to hell as a fallen angel.
Because they can't admit they were wrong.
God in this instance I don't belive he will speak to angels. It's more like he is the laws of the world. You only see him through his actions. By redeeming sir pentius, God just declared that serap was in the wrong. That sinners CAN be redeemed. It's also likely a test to see what she will do. If she fails, she falls.
The fact God dosent have a physical body also makes sense biblically. Evil exists where God is not present. Every good act. Every kindness. Every act of selflessness. Every time someone sucessfuly resists temptation. God is there.
@@MrGantron414 I like your theory though for the makes sense biblically it does not either since its stated Humans were made in Gods image which would imply he has a physical form
Sera already doesn't want to believe nor wants anyone else to believe redemption is possible. By kicking pentious out of heaven, she'd be revealing that redemption is possible to both angels and sinners. Don't forget St Peter's words "where people are happy they died." I do not believe the angels in heaven would be "happy" to learn their loved ones can be redeemed, but the seraphim refuses the redeemed souls. That would cause upheaval and unrest within the angels that were human. Most of them probaby believe in the sadness Adam said " Hell is forever whether they like it or not. Had the chance to behave better. Now they boil in a pot." So for someone to "escape" hell, it would cause fear, panic, joy, sadness, all the range of emotions. I don't believe sera will or could reveal the truth, peace in heave would shatter. While the angel of peace, is not shattered an ounce; in fact she's more peaceful. I also believe Emily would fight tooth and nail to protect pentious not only from Sera but anyone else that would come for him who knows the truth. Emily wouldn't let Charlie's hard work go down the drain without a fight, not after Charlie proved their shared view point can be reality. Emily IS the peace keeper, so if she's fighting anyone they are clearly the bad guys cuz all she wants is happiness and peace.
Let's hope Lute never finds out. She was willing to maim a fellow angel and leave them for dead, and she looked fucking pissed that Emily, a seraph who is above Lute in the hierarchy, even called her out on her behavior and actions during the song in court. Lute would be the sort of person who, if she found out Emily was harboring an ascended sinner-turned-winner, she'd cut Emily down if she could just to get to Sir Pentious, and Emily hardly looks like someone who can properly fight even if she should be more powerful than Lute.
Things are about to get very ugly in season 2.
What gets me is how suspiciously absent god is in all this.
I think Sera is keeping this from him and I think something is distracting god from whats going on in hell and Heaven.
In the end, i also suspect this story is going to end with Charlie founding purgatory.
The movie dogma comes to mind
@@theclowny57
Perhaps but at the same time, if God ordered the extermination. That would of had made things simpler for Sera. Aka, "God said its a order so My hands are tied."
But Sera is being sneaky/secretive.
@@thewingedhussar4188then What if it’s CHAOS KING GOD’S EVIL PRIMORDIAL BROTHER?!??!
It’s true I look it up🧐
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a have small theory that emily might form a secret resistances in heaven with other angles including angle dust sister molly and have sir pentious as her right hand man and if emily does end up as a fallen angel it could end up being another reason for more angles to join the resistances
Poor sir pentious I was using captions and they kept putting sir pentiouss name as "penus" 💀💀🤨🙃
If Sera does this, then im going full _'respectless'_ mode against Sera
She won't, she doesn't look like someone who would act against such definitive proofs, besides it's clearly not in her power, obviously there's an higher will who decides that
Me too
Sera:*kicks sir pentious out of heaven*
The Fandom: Hippotity hop your life trial has expired hippotity hop im about to end your life
Sera will either kick him out or lock him up, just make Charlie think that he was not redeemed. It's obvious that she's scared and thinks that someone from hell is going to cause chaos if they go to heaven. I would be surprised if Emily falls even if she's so pure
I imagine him being like:I SEE MY FRIENDS AGAIN!YAY!
"Oh Cherri my beloved, it is Hell to be in Heaven without you, and Heaven to be in Hell with you!"
Sera hates sinners so much, she hasn’t even realized that she is becoming a sinner herself.
True but who are you talking about
@@EdwardMcAlmont sera dumbass
I’m talking about sera the seraphim angel
Sera @@EdwardMcAlmont
Charlie get ate kill by cannibals
I feel like Sera is almost like a tyrant because she’s so focused on how much she wants to make everything perfect in Heaven that she is willing to silence anyone who may pose a threat to the world order of Heaven
Also another way to make people not question her is if she brings the hazbin hotel cast back up to heaven to have another meeting with this proof that the hazbin hotel works
This is why Sera needs to be banished she’s the evil she was proven wrong. She needs to go down there.
I bet there will be a song montage of sinners going to heaven and sera smashes the counter
Also the look on seras face was like holy shit god is gonns kill me
Wait what if when demons get redeemed they have to die again to get to heaven
Maybe they "fall on a sword" after cleaning out their Internal conflicts and conflicting moral attitudes to end as a hotel completion wrap up .
I think its more likely he'll get locked up. Emily would tolerate it better if given the excuse of "he could be dangerous." But more importantly Sera would lock him up to keep it a secret, if it got out that the sinners could of been redeemed this whole time there would be chaos as the citizens of heaven are already reeling from the exterminations being exposed. I don't think Pen is safe.
Or, just a theory, maybe Sera would brainwash him and secretly use him as a pawn against the demons. If they could secretly keep Lilith in heaven, they could also be plotting something under the table, right? Think about it, Sir. Pentious experienced Hell firsthand, he knows the demons better, has leadership skills, good at building weapons, and has a sense of honor. What if Sera promised him a brighter future if he could prove himself worthy? Now that Adam is gone, wouldn't he be a perfect choice to take over and wear the mask? Therefore, it will be much easier for Sera to convince Sir. Pentious to totally put the past behind him. That would be a very conflicting and intrersting story for the show.
@@vanessaatwood3017 FUCK SERA
@@vanessaatwood3017 she knows nothing about friendship
I also think that he might be hidden away from other angels, because the court may feel that they may be a bad impression on the residents of heaven, and also because he isn’t a “pure angel” just a theory of what I think.
I hope that doesn't happen! I want Sera to learn to be more open and see that Sir Pentious is a nice guy and proof that Sinners can be redeemed!
Yes I agree 😊
Its my head Cannon that it is because of Adam listing the rules, that this could happen. There were no set rules before. So now, every harvest gives sinners that have redeemed themselves, a chance to die in hell and go to heaven.
My theory is that if she does force him out of Heaven, he wont be going back to Hell, but rather to purgatory. Loosing all his color and sense of self as he withers away.
Angel probably wasn’t able to ascend not just because of Adam’s bs list but Valentino still owns his soul.
If the archangels exist in this universe.if they find out about the exterminations.I'm guessing Michael will have her Taken care of
Archangels are below seraphs in the hierarchy of angels, he'd likely not be able to do much to her. Seraphs are also below only the Holy Trinity (the Father/God, the Son/Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit) in the hierarchy of Heaven. God is conspicuously absent in this series so far, and angels were said to have created humanity here which is normally God's thing is religion proper, implying he either doesn't exist in this setting or was incredibly hands off in this universe.
I don't think Sera was disgusted at all. I think she was more shocked that a soul from hell was able to ascend cause I think she believed it wasn't possible...until she saw Serpentious
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Sera: *Shocked and confused tare*
Emily: *Happy as heck*
And the sound Emily made just got me dying of cuteness
And this is why sera is the most hated hazbin hotel character ^^ 🔪
(If she isnt then she should be)
She's second, after Adam.
@@Akiku2 and Valentino
Wouldn't that make her third?@@Heheduckie
@@BillyBroughton-p4r yes
Between her and Valentino
This is a sort of continuation of my previous little message i could even see sara make a tv show how will be Redeemed Next Here on heaven tv
I have a rather interesting idea that, once knowledge of Sir Pentious's redemption becomes widespread, it will cause a tremendous deal of unrest in both Heaven and Hell. Here's how I think it would play out:
Of course, once everyone in Heaven comes to find out about Sir Pentious, no doubt there will be those "pureblood fanatics" who would want absolutely nothing to do with him, and even try to force him back to Hell in some way (or maybe try to imprison him for "trespassing"), only to be met with opposition from Heaven denizens on the other side. Those on said other side may be intrigued, captivated, and even outright ecstatic about Pentious's redemption, particularly those who have friends and family who are in Hell. He may well end up becoming a sort of celebrity, with many Heaven journalists wanting to get firsthand interviews with him, probably asking things like "How would you describe the average lifestyle in Hell?", "Did you truly feel like the bad things you did in life outweighed the good?", and probably most importantly, "What EXACTLY did you do just before you manifested here in Heaven?"
Of course, with these two opposing sides in Heaven, there would undoubtedly be a rift that forms, threatening to destabilize the delicate balance the Seraphim have struggled to maintain. I feel like Emily would easily side with those who support Sir Pentious, but as for Sera... it may be a borderline-impossible decision. While she knows it's not her place to go against divine judgment, she just cannot accept something that goes blatantly against the worldview she's always had. And perhaps the irony could be that, while Sera repeatedly warned Emily that she risks becoming fallen by sympathizing with Sinners, Sera herself may be the one to fall if she cannot accept what is, to her, irreconcilable inconsistency in divine judgment, leaving her only with the Hazbin Hotel, the very system she was entirely pessimistic toward, as her only hope of returning to Heaven.
As for Hell, once it's proven that Sinners can be redeemed, no doubt everyone would work to start changing their ways, with Sinners, realizing that they've been holding themselves back. Of course, there would be those who have just given up completely, but hey, that's their loss. But then the Hellborn demons would start to wonder if THEY can perhaps be redeemed as well, only to realize that, without human souls, they cannot be allowed to enter Heaven. This, too, would likely cause a rift between Hellborns and Sinners, with the former insisting it's unfair that the latter has a chance to go to Heaven, and that those native to hell are now just completely "inferior." I feel many Sinners could easily point out that they've been eternally confined to the Pride Ring, and victims of exterminations that eradicate souls needlessly, only for this to just feel like comparing a mountain to a molehill for the Hellborn.
TL;DR: Sir Pentious arriving in Heaven would cause a rift on both sides. For Heaven, it would be between those who believe Sinners would be deserving of redemption, and those who do not. For Hell, it would be between the Hellborn (as well as nihilistic minority of Sinners) and the majority of Sinners, with the former believing it unfair that they cannot be redeemed like human souls can.
To me, it seems like all hell's about to break loose, both figuratively and literally. I don't think Charlie has thought ahead about the implications a redeemed Sinner could pose on both sides. This may very well be the start of a *massive* war on both sides.
If Sera tries to kick him out, it'll let Charlie know her plan is possible
Sounds like Sera is like any other politician. She doesn't want to let go of her power and do whatever it takes to hold onto it and when her corruption is exposed. Then she'll probably be kicked out of heaven.
emily would surely tell and sera would get in trouble.
If Sir Pentious gets kicks out God will be like hold on u did what now
I feel like sera would be just "fuck... We killed.. Soo many sinners.. That could already be redeemed.."
Eh, I hope they dont go that route. I think it be really boring from a storytelling perspective (unless it leads to Emily becoming a fallen angel, which I think could be interesting). I'd much prefer the idea of Pentious staying in Heaven, and exploring the ramifications of a soul from hell ascending to heaven. With Sera having an internal conflict with herself, Heaven in an external conflict with itself, and Emily and Pentious becoming best of friends.
Nobody has talked about how sir pencous looked like neoponeon in that picture
Your thumbnails are so good I actually mistake them for leaks when I see them 😅
Sir. Pentious?
More like Re. Pentious.
Angel dust had to die to go to heaven if he did all the checks right
I would love to see other angels agreeing with Emily and fighting for sinners in hell to be redeemed and be given a second chance. That would be interesting drama to watch and I would love to see how Sera would react to how other angels react to finding out that she allowed the exterminations to happen. I wonder how God would react to sinners getting exterminated in hell. Why isn’t God or Jesus or the Holy Spirit in this show at all?
i can just imagine sera going to Emily : NOW YOU PUT THAT THING BACK WERE IT CAME FROM OR SO HELP ME. 😂
Season 2 is going to be great for a lot of reasons 🤩😇😈🐍
If he got kicked out of heaven, sere would for sure have/find a place to hide our Snakeboy... as if she would let him back to hell so that every learn about it that there is a chance.
Sera can't kick out sir Pentious as long he follow the rules like Adam did
theres a recent fan song and viddy by MilkyyMelodies called emily fallen angel song - "I'd Fall Again" thats super good and a really interesting idea if they were to take it in that direction
Question but does anyone else find it strange that when Sir Pentious appeared in front of Sera and Emily with his six pointed frill thing…
I’m not sure but it just makes me feel like he’s an angel like Sera and Emily
A seraphim, you mean, six-winged angel.
@@BlueSunStudios1 yeah that
I have a theory that there are more layers than we know of.
i think sera's look was more one of shock, like she wasnt expecting it. ik we werent
The fact he had to die to get into heaven opens up something beyond redemption...reincarnation.
With how he arrived in heaven I think that there was some divine intervention at play
I don't really see that happening. Her biggest reason for being against letting sinners into heaven was that she was terrified of going against the ineffable system that passes judgement on the souls of the dead based on criteria nobody really actually knows and potentially being punished for going against its will like Lucifer was punished for granting humans knowledge of good and evil. It would be pretty inconsistent for her to then turn around and go against the will of the system now by punting Sir Pentious out of heaven after the system placed him there.
no she won't she is more likely to try to hide him from the other angels either putting him on the beach or some where isolated, emily is most likely going to fall by challanging sera and spreading the truth. I dont think sera will kick him out but she will hide him away, and emily won't like that and when she starts to challange sera and lute she will most likely be the next fallen one, I dont think it was just for the moment that sera told emily she could fall if she keeps on questioning.
THE FACT THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE EGG BOI ALIVE
I'm not even certain at this point whether or not Heaven is a better place.
I can Sera taking advantage of Sir Pentous missing his friends in order to make him want to go back to hell
I feel like in this right moment Sera is more deserving of hell than just rehabilitated soul. He just sacrificed his life for his friends, adding that his souls automatically appeared not even before the gates but in Sera’s office. If that’s not a giant sign that someone above her like idk god wants him in Heaven I don’t know what is.
He didn’t appear there by causality, it’s a sign for Sera that she is wrong and that soul is in this right moment more deserving of Heaven than a Seraphim who become a mass murderer.
Yeah but sir pentious never saw the perly gates so if u think about it the only one possible to force him to appear in front of sera is the god Almighty if u think about it
Imagine if she tries to send Pentious back to hell throu a portal but not even a second he returns throu another
HaHa, that would be funny!
Sir Pentious: Why can't I go back?!?
Nah sir pentious would been unharmed if that portal have one colour of red his butt jumping in for this friends-
Has there been any talk about how Adam and the Exorcists have horns like Lilth?
What of the portal doesn't let him go to hell, acting like a wall.
Nah, Sir Pentious got a second JUDGMENT. In the series, it was said to be done by God so no way Sera could ever kick him out without a valid reason. Besides, Sir Pentious should be outside Heaven's Gate just like the winners but ge didn't. So it might be God that teleported him straight up in Heaven even inside a building that would be belong to Seraphim Angels/Elder Angels.
If Sera did that, I would picture god saying, "Who decides who enters and leaves heaven?" Sera: you do. God: Then HE'S STAYING HERE
Here's my take on this. Sera won't try and return Sir Pentious back, by the way its correct name is purgatory, his appearance will, if, Sera is the just leader she claims to be, will see this as the lords will.
She will have to accept she was wrong and it means. Thousands of soul were lost by her order, losts that should have been in Heaven. The fact Pentious appeared before her says this is the Lord's doing, maybe Emily can point that out to her. If that is the case. I feel Sera will try and out when others will become, this will cause Charlie to understand Sir Pentious is in Heaven, sending Lucifer to check it and confirming it. Now Charlie has to figure out how. This will cause a story about the Vees trying to grab control of the hotel and the keys of redemption. In the end, Angle Dust escapes his contract, Valentino dies and the new character enters the story. Not to mention, a new alienates between Carmilla, Rosa and Alastair.
I didn't think that was disgust on her face I just thought it was shock
Same! And she might be conflicted now.
I doubt they will, because I have a feeling for whomever brought sir pentious to heaven will make sera into a fallen angel and be banish to hell or earth.
I can see Paimon or stolas welcoming Sera to the Ars Goatia; while she can cope with Lucifer and possibly the two siblings can reconnect.
If Sera kicks Sir Pentious out of heaven, I can imagine this might be what causes Emily to become a fallen angel. Maybe she defends Pentious and tells Sera they have to tell Charlie, and it's cowardice to kick Pentious out just because she doesn't want to face the consequences of commiting genocide on so many demons. This would lead to an intense musical argument between the two (with a few comic relief moments of Pentious feeling awkward standing on the sidelines during a family feud), which would lead to a portal of Hell sucking in Pentious. Emily would then desperately grab him so he doesn't go back to Hell, leading to this exchange:
Sera: Emily! Please! Remember what I said about you becoming a Fallen Angel?
Emily: (While holding onto a piece of heaven You don't have to worry about that Sera... BECAUSE I QUIT!!!! (Let's go of heaven and let's herself be taken to hell with Pentious) AAAAHHHH!!!
Pentious: AAHHHHH!!!
Sera: EMILY! NO!
Sera kicking out Sir Pentious will only cause herself to become a Fallen Angel, since Sera will be going against divine judgement
Every Winner in Heaven: *burns Sera on a cross and brings back Pentious and Emily*
If she really does boot him from heaven I'm going to be so pissed off
I will say it is interesting of an unrealistic take on the dynamic of Heavan and Hell this show has. Lucifer is a bad guy, but here he's not so much. Definitley hooked and intrigued to see where this show goes further.
This is the most likely to happen. Sera let Adam exterminate the demons to protect heaven. She said that in the show. So now that demons can come in heaven they can act kind in the hotel and get redeemed but
In heaven their evil kill full thoughts can become a reality. So to protect heaven from these redeemed demons she will most likely send Pentious down.
I have a feeling it will be Emily or him or even both I mean Adam's dead Emily might fall even might be 4S and Emily could fall after or before him plus ➕️ Lillth is her only option to stop Charlie if he doesn't go down or if Emily falls
So I don’t think I’m to far off the mark in saying the reason for Angel been the way they are is they have never had anyone on their side before this is also why the hotel has such a big effect on him, he finally has people that care for him for no other reason that seeing him happy and healthy which I’m willing to guess is something completely new to them, even in his mortal life he only seemed close to his sister from what I’ve heard yes he was part of a mafia family but I’ve not heard anything nice said about his other members of the family, then he dies apparently from an OD and ends up in hell and I’m guessing falls into Valentinos web almost instantly (I find the relationship funny as Angle is based on a spider and val is a moth but it’s the spider been prayed upon, now can we kill Val please? The slower and more painful the better) in his whole life Charlie is probably the first person that dosnt want to use him.
She'll probably try. That or imprison/hide him. Problem is... what's so bad about sending him back at this point? He's redeemed AND he confessed to the one he loves and returning to Hell would reunite him with her. So whether he stays in heaven or goes back to Hell, he'll be fine.
Or, just a theory, maybe Sera would brainwash him and secretly use him as a pawn against the demons. If they could secretly keep Lilith in Heaven, they could also be plotting something under the table, right? Think about it, Sir. Pentious experienced Hell firsthand, he knows the demons better, has leadership skills, able to build weapons, and has a sense of honor. What if Sera promised him a brighter future if he could prove himself worthy? Now that Adam is gone, wouldn't he be a perfect choice to take over and wear the mask? Sera could alter his mind, wipe out his memory, or convince Sir. Pentious totally put the past behind through manipulation. That would be a very intrersting story to put in the show.
@ching-jungyang62 Quite a theory but it's riddled with holes...
1- You assume they even have the ability to brainwash. Hell, HE has that ability to a degree why would someone else try that on him?
2- "He has a sense of honor." The purges are levied against, not innocents, but overkill just for population control. Not justified.
3- There is literally NOTHING they can offer him now that he's in Heaven. Even if they tried to bribe him with reuniting him with CherryBomb, I doubt that'd work since HE only confessed to her. Doesn't mean she loves him or would if they reunited.
4- The one armed angel literally said "Now I'm in charge." No way would she relinquish the title to Sir Pentious. In fact. Wouldn't surprise me if she tried to kill him upon finding out he was up there.
Sera herself said that they didn’t know what it took for a soul to get into heaven, it is by divine judgment that one shows up at the gate with the name in the book.
Sir Pentious materialized right in front of her and Emily. Obviously God was making a point! For Sera to force Sir Pentious out of heaven would be insubordination if not insurrection of divine authority. God may never be portrayed as a physical character in Hazbin Hotel but certainly portrayed as an invisible influence.
5:00 ied guess horror but probably not at him showing up but because him showing up now means she has been wrong and has been letting Adam kill potentially good souls for god knows how long and that is going to be hard on her as she thought it was the right thing.
I don’t think she is as evil as Lute or Adam was I mean you can’t tell me that them two are not filled with hate.
She won't. Whatever force who sent him to Heaven won't allow her to. He bypassed the gate to appear directly in front of them, something that has never happened before. I'm pretty sure she understands the implication of that.
Sir Pentious is getting shanked with an angel steel blade. Maybe not by Sera’s orders, but if this show is going dark, his death would be the signal.
I don't think sera will kick him out because she protects whoever is in heaven or gets to heaven and he's considered a soul worthy of heaven so that would be against what her job is.
That outrageous seriously sir pentious might be the first of a kind the redemption for the sin that sent him into hell my is that his soul was cleansed but sera saw only the sin because she is blinded by pride n only her ways is the only way to be in heaven
Yes sir pencious could be redeemed so will Charlie’s people so sir pencoius is staying in heaven
Sera and elder angel believes were proof to be wrong and question if
The extermination was the right choice. I have a theory that sinners can be redeem and go to heaven while non sinners that commit a sin would go to hell.
Honestly it's more painting heavens upper brass as Xenophobic to hell, and anyone willing to question it gets tossed down with the rabble they were advocating.
Angel dust cant get in because Val owns his soul
I think that she’ll try to at first only to have him pop back in. And it’d be a joke
I think Emily must better than sera, because Emily have the same with Charlie "the demons can become angles" and sera have an extermination for Adam and she only want to defense her own crown. Sera is bad!😡