The Truth About Peter Grant | Legendary Manager Of Led Zeppelin (1935 - 1995)
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- The Truth About Peter Grant | Legendary Manager Of Led Zeppelin
The most notorious band of all time could only have been managed by an equally notorious figure. Led Zeppelin accrued a legendary and nefarious reputation among fans, with stories of them ravaging hotel rooms and sacrificing teenage groupies beginning to run around the music rumour mill from the very beginning of their career. Like all things, these were largely exaggerated, but it was hard to exaggerate the actions of manager Peter Grant. Standing over six feet tall and weighing over 300 pounds, Grant used his size to his advantage when shaking down everyone from concert promoters to fans recording bootlegs.
Grant first encountered Jimmy Page when he took over managerial duties for the floundering Yardbirds, then at the end of their initial run. Almost immediately, Grant became a boogeyman figure to everyone who wasn’t a Led Zeppelin band member: whether you were a fan, groupie, label executive, or anyone in between, Grant was the one man you didn’t want to cross.
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Peter Grant Life Story | Led Zeppelin 1970s (1935 - 1995)
The most notorious band of all time could only have been managed by an equally notorious figure. Led Zeppelin accrued a legendary and nefarious reputation among fans, with stories of them ravaging hotel rooms and sacrificing teenage groupies beginning to run around the music rumour mill from the very beginning of their career. Like all things, these were largely exaggerated, but it was hard to exaggerate the actions of manager Peter Grant. Standing over six feet tall and weighing over 300 pounds, Grant used his size to his advantage when shaking down everyone from concert promoters to fans recording bootlegs.
Grant first encountered Jimmy Page when he took over managerial duties for the floundering Yardbirds, then at the end of their initial run. Almost immediately, Grant became a boogeyman figure to everyone who wasn’t a Led Zeppelin band member: whether you were a fan, groupie, label executive, or anyone in between, Grant was the one man you didn’t want to cross.
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1973 me and two of my mates all aged 17 were mooching around city Hall Newcastle on Tyne hoping to get to see zeppelin we had no tickets ! as we were waiting by the stage door a jaguar car pulled up and out got Peter grant ! he asked us if there was a safe place to park and one of my mates said "yeah there's a car park around the corner" he asked my mate if he could drive he said "yes" Peter threw the keys at him and said OK show me ! so off they went with my mate driving ! back they came about ten minutes later ! he asked if we had tickets and we of course said no ! he said " the lads will be here in a few minutes for the sound check" go sit in the hall and listen to them" so we got a private session from them from the "houses of the Holy" album ! he said hang around and when they come back ill introduce you to the band ! as good as his word he arranged for the security to leave us be ! when the band came back for the show true to his word he introduced us to the band we had a good chat with them ! he then said when the band come on stage go through this side door and sit on the stage and watch the performance which of course we did sitting on that stage near the amps was incredible and I can say that John bonhams drumming was like being pleasantly beaten up! what a night that was ! I got a pack of string from jimmy page which I stupidly put on my guitar thinking his talent might rub off ...it didn't !
the best concert I ever attended !
Awesome story Jack! RIP John Bonham & Peter Grant
what a great story. Imagine driving Grant's Jag and having him sit by you as you drove. Both exhilarating and intimidating at the same time. And you guys got to watch and meet the band. OMG. What was that like? What was the band like? The great Jimmy Page, JPJ and Bonham and Plant. You guys at 17 must have just been floored. I would have at any age. The greatest band ever. And to have the feared Peter Grant be so nice to you guys must have been even more incredible.
@@DianeLake-sw3ym Peter was a gem and he was good to his word! Robert plant was very talkative as was jimmy page the gig was the houses of the Holy tour, we happened to be in the right place at the right time thank goodness ! I think Peter got the reputation as hard headed business man and he protected the band at all costs but a nice guy ! but not so nice to chancers !
Oh wow !!! What a story it must of been magical 😊😊😊😊
He was one of the few known managers that actually didn't rip a band off...for that alone I respect him.
RIP Peter Grant
Try reading a book or 2
he was a greedy violent drug addict
actually may not be true..
One night, on July 29th, 1973, the band were burgled of over $200k in cash by an unknown party. Nearly 50 years later, the crime remains unsolved
How ever they are rumors, but you never know some times rumors have some truth to it, the rumor is that Peter Grand knew where the money was, and at what time would be the best to steal that $200,000.00 Rumor has it Peter Grant was in on it and gave the information to the people who done the deed, and of course Peter Grant Got half of that..
Weather it's true or not, i don't really know but it could be..
In police work there is an old saying, Every one is a suspect until the case is solved...
you have to think that way, it may be dark and a negative attitude but, some times you have to get your hands dirty to clean things up..
As far as I know, Page took 50 percent of the profits and the four others(Grant included) split the other 50 percent. Page was the boss!
He loved Zeppelin they were his family, the best manager of all time
RIP Peter Grant
It's incredible to see how Peter Grant's vision and determination helped shape Led Zeppelin's career and ultimately influence the entire music industry.
Absolutely. RIP Peter Grant
Despite his notorious reputation, Grant was never abusive with me and always made himself available for advice for a struggling singer, as myself. He was a genuine human being and respected others who didn't try to get something from him, just because if his status. I was lucky to know him.
Great comment. RIP Peter Grant
Peter was a very tough man indeed. When LZ toured the Deep South in 1970, a group of sailors began to taunt them about their long hair and bohemian appearance.
Peter walked over to them and picked two of them up in his massive arms, and said "What's your problem Popeye?" Needless to say, the verbal abuse suddenly stopped.
Not a man to pick a fight with.
RIP Peter Grant
Unfortunately,it was common place for artists to get ripped off by their own managers and record labels.I hated reading about some of my favorite bands being victimized like that.Thanks to Peter Grant,Led Zeppelin didn't suffer that fate.The best manager and friend a band could ever hope to have.R.I.P. Peter.
RIP Peter Grant
He should be in The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.
He changed the game completely for managers against promoters.
He's the kind of manager every band needs.
It's amazing to see how Grant was able to navigate the complex and competitive music industry of the 1970s, paving the way for future managers and artists.
RIP Peter Grant
Sorry. You're not going to get me to romanticize that guy. It's a complete myth that his management style was necessary for their success. This would explain why JP, RP, and JPJ wanted nothing to do with him after the band broke up.
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_I would think that what you say is true - but they tolerated him because he made a lot of money for them! That was the only reason._
@@alexnelson9512 Absolutely! But it was a helluva price to pay. I was surprised to find out later that, for all of his bullying bluster, he broke down and cried years later when they showed him the photos of what they did to Bill Graham's employee on the 77 Tour in San Francisco. Bloodbath.
That was basically the last time such tactics could work. Imagine him pitting one division of a multinational megalith against another of the same company these days - one artistically clueless bean-counting product manager against another.
The archival footage and interviews with those who knew Grant best help paint a vivid picture of his impact on the music world.
RIP Peter Grant
Great video, mate. The best manager they could have had. Learnt his trade from Don Arden, another hard man. Best band the world has ever seen.
RIP Peter Grant
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_"Don Arden" and Peter Grant were both ✡and very nasty pieces of work - money was worth ever action, no matter how vile._
A wonderful human being. He cared about the "five" and protected them. Changed the industry and refused to let them get ripped off. We could use more managers like him now. He loved female singers and was a great mentor.
RIP Peter Grant
The documentary also delves into some of the controversies and challenges that Grant faced, giving viewers a more complete understanding of his life and career.
RIP Peter Grant
It was a brutal business to be in that era. And long before. Blood thirsty with no remorse. The stories told of sneaky contracts and thievery in royalties due to many artists is heart wrenching.Guys like Grant were necessary. And that’s that.
RIP Peter Grant
One great band manager.possibly now over the hills and far away!. Rog.
RIP Peter Grant
Truly a legend. He kept the money grabbing promoters and record companies from ripping Zeppelin off allowing the band to totally be absorbed in their creativity and performance. I hope in years to come that history will highlight the undoubted influence that Peter had on the story of Zeppelin's amazing story and success.
RIP Peter Grant🙏
I remember seeing song remains the same for the first time. It was 43 years ago but seemed like yesterday. I really loved the fantasy inserts interspersed through the film. I had no idea who Grant was other than producer and I really didn't care about it but his presence in film was really impressive. Just a total character. The whole theft storyline was interesting juxtaposed against the concert and other fantasy storyline. Some folks say the movie was overindulgence.....I'm not one of them. Loved it!!!!
RIP Peter Grant
*Yes, totally agree - have it on DVD and Blu-ray. A unique film.*
Had Peter Grant been born in 1900 he’d have been a London gangster in the 20’s. Bootlegging liquor, bullying local businesses. This was his style.
I agree with you Christian. Not someone you'd want to get on the wrong side of! RIP Peter Grant
One of the most interesting and clearly intelligent people in music ever. His brain was as big as as his frame... Great man despite the darkness...
RIP Peter Grant
He loved those 4 guys….especially Jimmy….best manager for the best band ever
RIP Peter Grant
he changed the music biz for bands
RIP Peter Grant
Peter had an incredible memory…he told wonderful stories…some of which I have regaled in my book.
RIP Peter Grant
The documentary also touches on Grant's personal life and how his family and personal struggles impacted his career and legacy.
RIP Peter Grant
I was at the Oakland show and we waited 2 hours for the show to start and it was well worth it! Last American show ever.
That must have been an incredible show. RIP Peter Grant
@@HistoryandNostalgiaChannel Yes it was and I have a copy of it. I love it!
You know what I always would say to myself that Peter Grant should have been Jimi Hendrix manager seriously he would have still been alive because you know Peter Grant use manage Chuck Berry at one point in time Peter Grant was one of the best managers ever that man would not allow any of those promoters to screw over Zeppelin he would not allow for the record companies even themselves to screw over the band that's what I admire about him the most so I know at the time when he was managing Chuck Berry Chuck was definitely getting paid rest in peace Peter 👍 man I'm so glad I found your channel bro seeing a lot of the people that you do stories about definitely going to check that one out with Jim Morrison I was just playing a few of my doors albums last night
RIP Peter Grant
Grant never "shook down" anybody---he stood up for his band and kept them from being robbed and exploited in 100 different ways. There will never be another Peter Grant, but thousands of managers would like to be.
Totally agree with you. "Shook down" is a phrase that maybe I could have used differently in this video. Peter Grant was legendary as Led Zeppelin's manager. I remain in awe. RIP Peter Grant
@@HistoryandNostalgiaChannel Seems that you meant that when Grant caught somebody hustling Zeppelin, he hung them upside down by their ankles in his fists and shook them till their guilty pockets emptied---Yikes!
The only thing I hate about Grant was his inability to see how legendary they would come in later years.
He should’ve professionally recorded more shows.
RIP Peter Grant
Lovely doco on Grant. Best I've seen.
Wow, thank you! RIP Peter Grant
If it wasn't for Grant Led Zep wouldn't have had the success they did.
RIP Peter Grant
Peter Grant knew Jimmy Page way earlier from the early Sixties. He was the doorman at the 2 ii’s Club, Page played guitar in Neil Christian’s band called The Crusaders who occasionally played there.
RIP Peter Grant
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…And the bartender at the 2 ii’s Club was Mickey Most, future record producer of The Yardies and Peter Grant’s soon to be partner in RAK Mngmt.
Still got my original LedZep11 album and cover pinned to my wall. My favourite band.
Led Zeppelin II was my older brother's record. I had no say in the matter. Whole Lotta Love still blows my mind to this day! RIP John Bonham.
Led Zep II Robert Ludwig pressing the best
Probably more like 400 lbs,he was a beast in more ways than one.He knew what he was doing for sure.Probably the best music manager ever.
Peter was one tough hombre. RIP Peter Grant
GENIUS 👍👍🙏🙏🏆🏆
RIP Peter Grant
Peter Grant was great. He knew how to handle the promoters etc. Why should the middle man make money for putting out a couple of posters. Grant was right he did it the right way. ❤
RIP Peter Grant
This is why Grateful Dead is the greatest band ever!!!
RIP Peter Grant
Peter grants a G
RIP Peter Grant
Led Zep`s 1977 bodyguard Johnny "Biffo" Bindon was even more frightening than Grant,he`s a bit of a London Legend in his own right!!
RIP John Binden & Peter Grant
Acquitted of murder.
He was a product of his time and circumstances a force of nature and a bit of a bully but definitely the stuff of which legends are made.
RIP Peter Grant
Peter Grant..
The man who
Led zeppelin
RIP
RIP Peter Grant
He took CARE of Zeppelin. He got them a TOP-NOTCH deal. Including all their publishing rights and he only took his percentage..never ripping them off. THEE best manager in ROCK HISTORY bar NONE. He saw how bands like The Beatles and the Stones got RAKED and took those learned lessons always having the upper hand.
RIP Peter Grant
I am misty eyed.
Peter was more than a Colonel Parker could ever be.
Rest In Peace.
But we all could have different sounds today from concerts of past though
RIP Peter Grant🙏
I want a Beastie Boy movie, but a Movie on Sir Peter Grant would be unlimited
RIP Peter Grant🙏
Before there was Suge Knight there was Peter Grant. Managers had to play hardball back then. The promoters would've cheated them otherwise as would the record companies.
RIP Peter Grant
Liked his aggressive approach
👍
RIP Peter Grant
Any band with the 4 individual stars of talent and the songwriting needs the 5th Bull in front. I think about how much I would have benefitted having that force in front of me as we wrote, recorded and performed live. Without that any artist can either run or get sucked into the fan blades. Grant was the windkeeper and he did a fine job guaranteeing that Led Zeppelin were as evolved and worked through as the Beatles. The Beatles and Led Zeppelin stand alone for sone kind of sorcery in the specific albums and songs that is just higher, than anything else.
RIP Peter Grant
Can't imagine how outraged he was when 100k went missing from the Hotel safe. Provided the Story is tru
RIP Peter Grant
_They could afford it, but it would be interesting to know who successfully stole the cash. Obviously, it was an inside job._
It was over 200,000 and it is a true story, it was taken from the Drake Hotel safety deposit box.
I remember hearing that Grant was going to manage Elvis Presley on a foreign tour. He and Tom Parker met when the famous meeting of Led Zeppelin and Elvis took place. I think Colonel Parker finally found somebody he thought was much like himself and Parker of course couldn't travel abroad because he had no passport because of his illegal alien status in America. I don't remember why it didn't happen but I somehow think the they had planned for Elvis to to an extended run in London.
RIP Peter Grant
When Zeppelin was in New York and Peter Grant found out there was unlicensed t-shirt stands selling Zeppelin apparel he went outside with a couple stage hands,busted the stand up,took the t-shirts and gave the dude a couple bumps on the head.
Reportedly John Bonham joined in sometimes.
RIP Peter Grant
*_They were two violent individuals - but they got away with it._*
I love that scene in the movie. 😂😂
A great man!
RIP Peter Grant
Had a 20% share, sounds like it was worth it.
RIP Peter Grant
Good video- well worth watching.- reag Peter Grant's Book "Bring It On Home" a goode read.
RIP Peter Grant
I Remember Hearing Grant, Screaming at Concert Production Management, WHY Seats were Not Filled BEHIND The Stage? Who Cares if They can't see the Band., They can Hear the Band. 🤣 Intelligent Manager an Businessman.. .......
RIP Peter Grant
…it was the equivalent of having a King Henry VIII as your manager. Plain and simple. If it were the mid 1500’s and Grant was in charge somehow, maybe he too would’ve had some 70,000 executed that animal Henry had. Like Bonzo (whom Peter took a peculiar liking to on account of their similarities in temperament,) Grant was just another teddy bear underneath all the brashness. We’re all human. Zeppelin did luck out big time having the cards fall on his lap when the Yardbirds called it a day. Without him I’m not fully certain that the Zeppelin would’ve gained its famed cruising altitude. Likely not.
RIP Peter Grant
8:35 hawhawhaw good 'ol Pete 😄
RIP Peter Grant
really liked the part in movie Song remains the same with the gangsters heads blown off
RIP Peter Grant
Peter being a very out of shape guy was ready as hell to make it right and butt heads at all cost ..His determination was everything ..
RIP Peter Grant
met him few times walking my dogs near his home in hellingly east sussex he brought to repleca choppers led zepp had of ones from easy rider to a do at hailsham secondery school
RIP Peter Grant
I was working as a contractor at the Hellingly school the day of his funeral next to the cematry where he is rested .
"Yod-birds"😊
RIP Peter Grant
I Had Met Him With The Band In Landover MD In 77. He Towered Over Me That Day.
RIP Peter Grant
Was not going to permit others vendors and promoters steal a single dime or shilling from the the the band which he loved and devoted ALL his soul into making them deserving of what they were owed!!!!
RIP Peter Grant
🖤🍷
RIP Peter Grant
Can't find Peter Grant on the Benny Hill show. Someone send a link please
RIP Peter Grant
I think it was gangster John Bindon who was involved in the fight with Bill Graham 's security, not drummer John Bonham.
RIP Peter Grant
It was Binden, Grant, Bonham and Cole who pummeled Graham’s guy.
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Yes, you are correct.
Peter grant vs Bill Graham Not good for zeppelin their last show ever in the US 1977 tour Grant arrested for assault . he was a gangster..
You're right. Definitely not a good look. RIP Peter Grant
Grant lost it in Detroit when Led was on stage as the crowd kept calling back Grand Funk Railroad for another encore. Said they never play Detroit again. GFRR was an amazing band and I would rival Mark Farner to Jimmy Page, all day long.
RIP Peter Grant
Read he picked up GFRR;s manager by the collar.
Without self indulgent agressors like Grant we would have had many more bootlegs. As if the the fate of the world relies on smashing someone taking pictures!?
RIP Peter Grant
He was like a 70s rock n roll Suge Knight.
RIP Peter Grant
It s actually the other way round...suge knight is a hip hop peter grant ...but far more miserable and despicable
His cocaine addiction is what did him in during the post Zeppelin years.
RIP Peter Grant
didnt led zepplin get robbed of $80.000 during a concert.? i wonder if grant did that.
RIP Peter Grant
$203,000 in New York in 1973
@@MrEvolution513 i appreciate that.✓✓
I ran into him outside of Chicago Stadium in the mid 1970’s. He was yelling at me and a couple of friends, how he was going to kill us for selling T-shirts (though it was hard to understand him with his thick accent). I said we weren’t selling anything as we were walking to the concert, a little late. After we surrounded him he beat a retreat and started mumbling something. I’m surprised he didn’t get shot…..acting the way he did.
RIP Peter Grant! Great story Macro...
Petter grant was a bussnes man .but he had the personality of a shrew..a pushy prick he did things his way but at zeppelins expence.the band should of jumpep him and filled him in .maybe the pressure of poor john was caused buy peters constant personality
RIP Peter Grant
grant was a strange looking person. too much toot toot maybe. 😂
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Peter Grant did zero to help Led Zeppelin. Yes he made them money. But he rode them
Into the ground just like the Colonel did to Elvis Presley. By the time they recorded Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin had put out 5 albums and did something like 350 concerts in 5 years. Plants voice was still recovering from surgery. They had to use old songs just to blend in to hide how much his voice changed. Half of the album are left over songs from other albums. He ignored the drug problems and did nothing to help the band mates. If Led Zeppelin didn’t make money he didn’t make money. Why don’t you think other bands didn’t use him.
By 1975 the cracks were beginning to appear by 1977 Page was a skinny strung out mess. He had a terrible decades long battle with heroin. By 1979 the band was shot. Plants voice was terrible in 1980 Page couldn’t play like he used to. John Bohnam was bloated drinking heavily and had a heroin addiction he would die in 1980 a month away from a North American Tour.
Peter Grant kept trotting them out there drug problems keep going your son does keep playing. Why do you think Robert Plant.tries to distance himself from that part of his life.
Grant was an equal member and he was going to squeeze every dollar he could. And did zero to keep the band members healthy. Bands like Metallica play better now at 60 years old than Led Zeppelin did when members were between 31 and 35 years old.
He hated bootlegs yet until his death he was selling bootleg copies of Knebworth 79 from ads in the back of Rolling Stone Magazine. He used an address in NYC where you could send money and would get a VHS copy. I suspect his son has made millions leaking bootlegs. Because after he died in 1995 slowly soundboards were popping up out of nowhere for 20 years the only good sound board was destroyer. From From 1998-2007 full soundboards kept popping up. I had a connection so I got them cheap I couldn’t keep up with all of them
Coming out. The 1975 and 1977 tours were surfacing.
RIP Peter Grant
Page began using Heroine in 1975. Before that he dabbled in drugs and booze like most rock people did but, did not have a habit until he began doing heroine. Bonham was a boozer but, not an addict. He did drugs over the years but, they were not a big thing for him.
Plant had surgery on his voice in 71/72. It is not certain what was wrong but, it was common knowledge that Plant did not warm up before concerts or help his voice with honey and tea like many singers did. Plant would not do anything to 'baby' his voice trying to be a tough guy.
As for the touring, that was the band's decision and not Grant's. They wanted to play and tour until the last years when it was becoming a drag and they wanted to spend more time with their families. Before Bonham died he was getting very depressed about touring and wanted to stay with his family and work his farm. That is when his drinking increased much. And the last tour they were planning in 80 Bonham was so distraught by the thought of leaving again when he wanted to stay home caused him to seriously want to quit the band. And it was why he drank so much his last day alive. It was really getting to him. JPJ was wanting to stay home more and be with his family who he missed - but many times brought his wife while on tour - but he
was also itching to produce more with other talent. Plant wanted to stretch his wings and go solo for awhile and was considering leaving at that time. When his son died in 77 Plant quit drugs and booze and stayed mostly sober the last years. He wanted to mature and so, was at the end of Led Zep.
If Bonham did not die the band would probably have ended just because of where the individual member were at in 1980 and being in their early 30s they were not kids anymore. Even with Page's addiction the band was past the party hard era and were growing up.
None of this had anything to do with Grant.
Grant was their manager and watched out for his guys. He was always watching to make sure no one was ripping his band off. And if you look at what pathetic managers there are today and no one really caring about the artist or looking out for them Grant is amazing for his focus on protecting his band.
So, your take down is unfair
Peter Grant got Led Zeppelin FAR MORE money than any other manager did before or since. And I challenge you to show us any other manager who was able to attain the insanely high percentages from concerts that Grant did for Zeppelin.......far more than any other band or artist was getting from shows. Every band member absolutely loved Peter Grant, INCLUDING ROBERT PLANT. Every band member has stated it in countless interviews, even years after Bonham's death. And if you honestly believe ANY OTHER manager would've even attempted to attain the lion's share of the profits for Led Zeppelin concerts the way Grant did, then you need to lay off smokin' the birdseed.
@@DianeLake-sw3ym I agree with you 100%. Peter Grant commanded the lion's share of profit percentages for Led Zeppelin concerts that would go to the band members and NOT into the pockets of the promoters. No other manager would even dare try to charge such high percentages. Besides, every band member of Led Zeppelin always loved Peter Grant, they even said so during interviews conducted years after Bonham's death & break-up of the band. That other viewer talking smack about Grant, is full of sh*t. Lastly: I haven't met a person yet who has enough power over another human being to force them to quit abusing heroin OR alcohol. Only the junkie or alcoholic himself can do that.
No way would Jimmy Page do anything just because Grant told him to especially long three legged tours of America. They were all breadheads especially Page. They treated people abysmally and reaped a whole lotta bad karma.
Old Led Zep was just another nasty discousting band huh? Gotta learn how to act in public.
RIP Peter Grant and John Bonham
Legendary a hole !!!!
RIP Peter Grant
*Although a rich a-hole!*
Peter, Peter, bootleg eater.
RIP Peter Grant
Sacrificing groupies? Like throwing them into volcanoes?
RIP Peter Grant
@@HistoryandNostalgiaChannel yeah if you are going to have security/management you want a Peter Grant!
_Yes, how cruel can a band get?_
@@JimmyGray-ds6gc - Peter Grant still pulled the plug on a Grand Funk concert.
Grand Funk were opening for Zeppelin and the crowd was manic with excitement. Peter yanked the power-plug out of jealousy (same thing happened with Sharon Osbourne when Iron Maiden opened for Ozzy).
Admit it, that's low-handed business politics there.......................
That is one funny looking meat head!
RIP Peter Grant